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September 23, 2017 Photon Guy 0
rickdun wrote:
Back around 20 years or so ago, down in the city (Altoona, Pa), a guy cut off another guy. When they came to a red light, the guy that was cut off came out with a baseball bat and starting smashing the drivers side window out.

The guy that had the window smashed, pulled up his model 1911A1 and gave that guy two, 230 grains of self justice :eek: in the face. Rumor has it that it was a closed casket.

No charges were filed.

Interestingly enough there was a case of road rage in NJ that had to do with somebody being cut off. No baseball bats or guns were used but the person who cut the driver off was slapped with a felony and got a major lawsuit (but not for cutting the guy off).

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September 23, 2017 arkieready 0

Crap!! Driven, I really don’t like you right now. Omg. Frigging daddy long legs are freaking disgusting. The big spider was creepy but ooooh I feel sick, them other things.
The only bug I’m afraid of. If I had that in my house I would just move.
Cast iron was talking a spider not aliens from the pits of hell.
Argh, bleh gag

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September 22, 2017 rickdun 0

Back around 20 years or so ago, down in the city (Altoona, Pa), a guy cut off another guy. When they came to a red light, the guy that was cut off came out with a baseball bat and starting smashing the drivers side window out.

The guy that had the window smashed, pulled up his model 1911A1 and gave that guy two, 230 grains of self justice :eek: in the face. Rumor has it that it was a closed casket.

No charges were filed.

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September 22, 2017 rickdun 0

Back around 20 years or so ago, down in the city (Altoona, Pa), a guy cut off another guy. When they came to a red light, the guy that was cut off came out with a baseball bat and starting smashing the drivers side window out.

The guy that had the window smashed, pulled up his model 1911A1 and gave that guy two, 230 grains of self justice :eek: in the face. Rumor has it that it was a closed casket.

No charges were filed.

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September 22, 2017 handyman777 0
ajax727 wrote:
Well heck a little story the other week I was attacked by a drunk who was also high as a kite on meth . I am only 6 feet 180 this fellow was a lot bigger than myself . 6′ 4 ” around 260 . He suckered punched me trying to knock me out a jaw shot second was when I turned my head this time was in the back of my head . I was stunned but only for a split second , when I came out from behind the counter he was at the door going out , when I got to the door and out he was in his truck burning rubber getting away .
Now this fellow was all rabbit when he saw his best shot had very little effect and the second one did not put me down he ran . I did not have my weapon on me it was in my truck so it was of no help but in the long run it was better I did not have it on me or I would have been in the gray bar motel facing manslaughter charges . The local law did not fill out no paper work , so I assume he is one of there rats , He does have a record and has spent time in the local jail this is a fact so he was know to the officers . I researched him and know all about him . I did the job the local cops should have done But only four cops showed up so they are not to bright also one made a statement that reflects about me not the thug .His face was clear as a bell on store cameras , his tag number was also clear as a bell and they did not recover his name from card reader he used to purchased gas and other items .
One I let my guard down my error , I did not keep my eyes on him . Two I did not have my weapon on me also my error or he would have been all wet in a pile in the store . Three If I would have went to my truck and followed him down the road and shot him I would have faced charges . I learned a lesson , not to let my guard down also to keep an eye on all people .also no matter what now my weapon will be on my side or under my arm .
I have been in a few fights , yes I have won a few and lost a few , On my feet or on the ground I can defend myself . It always don’t go as you think it would or as the bs movies show . When our paths cross again and in time they will I will not give him a chance I do have one hell of a punch that has been known to break jaws , ribs and shatter teeth .
Side note this is rural and he was not local here but lives a few miles away in a very small town .

Pay Backs can be a real B-I-T-C-H, :D just watch your six and stay out of the “gray bar” no tell motel.

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September 22, 2017 Cast Iron 0
Photon Guy wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:With one of these: https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/IZH_46M_ … _Pistol/78

I did the same with a cockroach when I was living in the Deep South.

I know. Spiders are our friends, they eat bugs, etc.
But just not in the house.

And they give me the wee-bee-gee-bees.
That is a technical term.

Now, how do I clean that up . . .

That would work.

Now, I wish I had 12 ft ceilings. It would give me enough space to do my martial arts drills with some of the longer weapons.

Ah. I get that. From all the times I lived in a urban environment, there is a dearth of 12 ft ceilings.

Yet another advantage of living in a rural environment.

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September 22, 2017 Cast Iron 0
Photon Guy wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:With one of these: https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/IZH_46M_ … _Pistol/78

I did the same with a cockroach when I was living in the Deep South.

I know. Spiders are our friends, they eat bugs, etc.
But just not in the house.

And they give me the wee-bee-gee-bees.
That is a technical term.

Now, how do I clean that up . . .

That would work.

Now, I wish I had 12 ft ceilings. It would give me enough space to do my martial arts drills with some of the longer weapons.

Ah. I get that. From all the times I lived in a urban environment, there is a dearth of 12 ft ceilings.

Yet another advantage of living in a rural environment.

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September 22, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Cast Iron wrote:
With one of these: https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/IZH_46M_ … _Pistol/78

I did the same with a cockroach when I was living in the Deep South.

I know. Spiders are our friends, they eat bugs, etc.
But just not in the house.

And they give me the wee-bee-gee-bees.
That is a technical term.

Now, how do I clean that up . . .

That would work.

Now, I wish I had 12 ft ceilings. It would give me enough space to do my martial arts drills with some of the longer weapons.

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September 21, 2017 ajax727 0

Well heck a little story the other week I was attacked by a drunk who was also high as a kite on meth . I am only 6 feet 180 this fellow was a lot bigger than myself . 6′ 4 ” around 260 . He suckered punched me trying to knock me out a jaw shot second was when I turned my head this time was in the back of my head . I was stunned but only for a split second , when I came out from behind the counter he was at the door going out , when I got to the door and out he was in his truck burning rubber getting away .
Now this fellow was all rabbit when he saw his best shot had very little effect and the second one did not put me down he ran . I did not have my weapon on me it was in my truck so it was of no help but in the long run it was better I did not have it on me or I would have been in the gray bar motel facing manslaughter charges . The local law did not fill out no paper work , so I assume he is one of there rats , He does have a record and has spent time in the local jail this is a fact so he was know to the officers . I researched him and know all about him . I did the job the local cops should have done But only four cops showed up so they are not to bright also one made a statement that reflects about me not the thug .His face was clear as a bell on store cameras , his tag number was also clear as a bell and they did not recover his name from card reader he used to purchased gas and other items .
One I let my guard down my error , I did not keep my eyes on him . Two I did not have my weapon on me also my error or he would have been all wet in a pile in the store . Three If I would have went to my truck and followed him down the road and shot him I would have faced charges . I learned a lesson , not to let my guard down also to keep an eye on all people .also no matter what now my weapon will be on my side or under my arm .
I have been in a few fights , yes I have won a few and lost a few , On my feet or on the ground I can defend myself . It always don’t go as you think it would or as the bs movies show . When our paths cross again and in time they will I will not give him a chance I do have one hell of a punch that has been known to break jaws , ribs and shatter teeth .
Side note this is rural and he was not local here but lives a few miles away in a very small town .

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September 21, 2017 Yeti_2015 0
Photon Guy wrote:

Yeti_2015 wrote:I’ll leave this thread after this, if you never been in many fights then you wouldnt understand that striking is one of the first things people with try, then they grab you. After that you usually end up on the ground. Its better to be a jack of all trades then a master of one, in this situation in my opinion. Not saying that you have not had your share of fights, but I have seen enough and been in a few to know the knockout videos you see on youtube are rare. Most fights dont end in one punch unless one is highly skilled or very lucky. Again another tool is all that is as well.

That’s why I think its good to be well trained in a good striking art and in a good grappling art. MMA does have its uses but what I think its best used for is if a person already has a background in a striking art and in a grappling art and it can help them combine their styles.

And how about not being a jack of all trades but master of few? Not just with the martial arts but with prepping in general.

This was the mean reason that MMA exist today, to show a person how strike and grapple and how to move between striking and grappling and not resorting to one discipline that they may have more time in. Most MMA gyms will teach you everything you need to know with every little training up front. It would help if you have some prior training in a discipline, but it’s a lot of time not necessary.
The master vs jack argument is something that is another argument all together. First as a small business owner I have to be a master at what I do to get the work coming in, but I have to be a jack of a lot of different trades to make the whole business that I run by myself work properly. When I worked at my first job out of school we all have a hand in all the aspects of the job, the job itself, the billing, invoicing, customer service, IT, to name a few. That way if one of us was to be out all of us could jump right in and finish what the other was doing. Yes it great to be a master of a few things, but as a prepper you need to be good at a lot of other things too. Unless you have a small army that will be there with you. As a prepper you need to cross train/learn new skills to be good at a lot of different things, fire starting, first aid, basic handyman repairs, and self-defense. I maybe be good at these, but I’m not a master of any.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Yeti_2015 wrote:
I’ll leave this thread after this, if you never been in many fights then you wouldnt understand that striking is one of the first things people with try, then they grab you. After that you usually end up on the ground. Its better to be a jack of all trades then a master of one, in this situation in my opinion. Not saying that you have not had your share of fights, but I have seen enough and been in a few to know the knockout videos you see on youtube are rare. Most fights dont end in one punch unless one is highly skilled or very lucky. Again another tool is all that is as well.

That’s why I think its good to be well trained in a good striking art and in a good grappling art. MMA does have its uses but what I think its best used for is if a person already has a background in a striking art and in a grappling art and it can help them combine their styles.

And how about not being a jack of all trades but master of few? Not just with the martial arts but with prepping in general.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Yeti_2015 wrote:
I’ll leave this thread after this, if you never been in many fights then you wouldnt understand that striking is one of the first things people with try, then they grab you. After that you usually end up on the ground. Its better to be a jack of all trades then a master of one, in this situation in my opinion. Not saying that you have not had your share of fights, but I have seen enough and been in a few to know the knockout videos you see on youtube are rare. Most fights dont end in one punch unless one is highly skilled or very lucky. Again another tool is all that is as well.

That’s why I think its good to be well trained in a good striking art and in a good grappling art. MMA does have its uses but what I think its best used for is if a person already has a background in a striking art and in a grappling art and it can help them combine their styles.

And how about not being a jack of all trades but master of few? Not just with the martial arts but with prepping in general.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
JoyDog wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

What kind? A black bear? Or one of those big brown bears?

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
JoyDog wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

What kind? A black bear? Or one of those big brown bears?

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September 21, 2017 Yeti_2015 0

I’ll leave this thread after this, if you never been in many fights then you wouldnt understand that striking is one of the first things people with try, then they grab you. After that you usually end up on the ground. Its better to be a jack of all trades then a master of one, in this situation in my opinion. Not saying that you have not had your share of fights, but I have seen enough and been in a few to know the knockout videos you see on youtube are rare. Most fights dont end in one punch unless one is highly skilled or very lucky. Again another tool is all that is as well.

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September 21, 2017 Yeti_2015 0

I’ll leave this thread after this, if you never been in many fights then you wouldnt understand that striking is one of the first things people with try, then they grab you. After that you usually end up on the ground. Its better to be a jack of all trades then a master of one, in this situation in my opinion. Not saying that you have not had your share of fights, but I have seen enough and been in a few to know the knockout videos you see on youtube are rare. Most fights dont end in one punch unless one is highly skilled or very lucky. Again another tool is all that is as well.

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September 21, 2017 Cast Iron 0
JoyDog wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

May we assume shot placement is what took the bear down?

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September 21, 2017 Cast Iron 0
JoyDog wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

May we assume shot placement is what took the bear down?

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September 21, 2017 JoyDog 0
Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

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September 21, 2017 JoyDog 0
Photon Guy wrote:

JoyDog wrote:I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

A couple years ago I killed a bear on our front step with a .223. He was looking through the sliding glass door at our granddaughters.

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September 21, 2017 Cast Iron 0
Photon Guy wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:Honestly I felt sub-urban areas to be the most hostile. No one waved, or said hello. Very stand off-ish. And I walked my dog around the neighborhood on a daily basis.

They’re not necessarily hostile they might just be grouchy.

Oh, no.
I was taking my dog for a walk as I did everyday. His bladder is only so big. He was on empty, straining to get even a few drops out.
Some woman gives me a dirty look and yells at me about how my dogs urine is going to kill her shrubs.
Hostile she was.

Another issue seemed to be parking your car. Better not park in front of someone else’s home, they own that part of the street. A lot of hostile, dirty looks there.

Complaints about cook outs, and the smoke it generated.

A family down the street was having a kids birthday party in their back yard. The police showed up on a noise complaint.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
JoyDog wrote:
I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

Well for that, particularly the lions and bears, I would go with something along the lines of a .30 06

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September 21, 2017 JoyDog 0

I have not ever shot at anyone, but I use guns daily. I have to protect my farm and animals. I dont think martial arts would help me at all. We have bear, coyotes, bobcat, rabbits, lion, and other small animals that threaten our life.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Cast Iron wrote:
Honestly I felt sub-urban areas to be the most hostile. No one waved, or said hello. Very stand off-ish. And I walked my dog around the neighborhood on a daily basis.

They’re not necessarily hostile they might just be grouchy.

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September 21, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Yeti_2015 wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

Yeti_2015 wrote:Martial arts are a very different aspect of self-defensive all together. Yes I believe in certain situations it could save you, but most fights are fought standing up. They usually end up on the ground grappling with each other. So martial arts would be helpful, but to me MMA training would be better bet.

MMA is a martial art.

Its a combination of a lot of different martial arts. When I say martial arts, I mean just learning one type like Karate, Taekwondo, Jui-jutsu, or Kick Boxing. A singular would be better than nothing, but MMA would be the best in my opinion. I am not an expert in any martial arts, but I have been in my share of fight. 90% of time we end up rolling around on the ground.

The problem with MMA is that you can end up as a jack of all trades master of none. That’s not to say that MMA doesn’t have its uses but its not something I would start out with. I would say to take up a good striking based art and a good grappling art. That way you will be well rounded. There are dojos, martial arts schools, that teach both Judo and Karate although they’re taught separately. Such dojos usually go by that principle.

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