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Livestock and more • Re: Keeping rabbit water from freezing.

February 28, 2017 RollingwithR 0

Here’s how we deal with frozen rabbit water in eastern WA (-10 at night) I was tired of refilling thier bottle’s every day to so I cut the tops off the plastic water bottle’s and with a little heat fitted them onto the end of a 4 in pvc pipe that was about 5 ft long. At first I attached it to the outside of the cage with zip tyes with the nipple going thru the wire mesh into cage. This worked great all summer only requires filled once every week to 10 days. It froze sold in winter thoe. So I added a few 3in pieces of 1/2in black iron pipe as a spacer between water pipe/bottle and cage. I then got a 6ft section of heat tape wrapped the water pipe/bottle and the wrapped pipe/bottle in pipe insulation. The spacer keeps heat tape out the rabbits reach. The heat tape uses less power than a old style light bulb. Works great

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Food & Water • Re: mushrooms …

February 28, 2017 lndtrdr 0

People like to hunt for Morels here in Indiana. There is one Ukrainian who uses GPS to remember places where he found them in past years. He carries them in a net bag so their spores can be spread while he is walking. They even wrote an article about him in a local magazine. Puff balls are what I usually find and eat, if they are fresh.

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Introduce Yourself • /waves from Oklahoma

February 28, 2017 Tanya 0

I think I did this all backwards but we’ll get to the same place in the end I think.
I already made an introduction post in the Oklahoma section so here I will just say Hi ya’ll :) I’ m looking forward to meeting like minded folks and reading all of the great ideas and info.

Cheers!
Tanya

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Check In Here Oklahoma Preppers • Central Oklahoma prepper

February 28, 2017 Tanya 0

Hello to all ya’ll Okies :)
I just found and joined APN forums.
I guess you could say we are new to prepping but not to survival. I myself grew up in Wyoming with a Mountain guide/logger for a dad. Spent a lot of time in my early years roughing it right down to mountain stream bathing, I swear we should have turned into Polar Bears. Anyway we spent most of our spare time in the mountains and at Rendezvous Pageants so I have a pretty decent grasp of outdoor survival. My husband and I both shoot but have not gotten our Concealed Carry Licenses yet. I’m not a hunter but I can butcher and tan hides in a pinch. I can build and repair just about anything that is not mechanical. I can sew but it ain’t real pretty, I guess I could handle most clothing repairs though. I knit the basics including socks. I have never had the patients to make a sweater but I expect I could figure it out if needs must. I love gardening and animals (except chickens, I hate chickens) I have experience with horses and dogs. I really want to get into sheep though, I would love to learn to spin and weave myself. I also have a good bit of medical training. I cook and can and have some knowledge of smoking and drying.
My husband is a big strong capable guy. He is very calm, logical and is good with guns and reloading. He is a geologist and also excellent with building anything. He is also not bad with mechanical repairs.

As I said before we have just begun prepping so aside from valuable skills we do not have much in the way of resources yet, hopefully we will have time. Oh also just putting this out there because most of the preppers I have seen in my area so far are pretty religious, We are not. We don’t preach our beliefs to others and are not interested in yours. We have lots of friends and family members that are very religious and love them just the same we hope we get the same respect from others.

Cheers and I look forward to chatting with ya’ll :)

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Food & Water • Re: how to keep bread fresh?

February 27, 2017 daaswampman 0

This is way off topic, but I love Chick-Fill-A! And the secret – soak the chicken breasts in dill pickle juice with a tiny dash of lemon juice! Then fry with peanut oil! Breaded or not breaded, deep fried or pan fried, they are really good! Rolled in corn meal is just wonderful! Swamp

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Food & Water • Re: how to keep bread fresh?

February 27, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
anita wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:

daaswampman wrote:Consumers buy what they are programmed to want from the choices they are given. Billions is spent on advertising and packaging, even the placement on the stores shelf is researched and costs big bucks. Few people read labels or compare products. It is actually fascinating to watch videos of people shopping for new products.

The best one I watched was the introduction of a new larger size. It outsold the old size and actually cost more per ounce – 50% more at double the price. Even a new label can change everything! A drink that was not selling had a label change to say “All Natural Sweeteners”. You guessed it, they replaced high fructose corn syrup with high fructose corn syrup and a new label! Sales nearly doubled!

We may think we have choices, but we choose from the choices we are given. Swamp

As a retailer, I witnessed what Swamp has stated. It happened on a regular basis.
My favorite scam was a popular dog food that stated: “IMPROVED, NOW WITH CHICKEN” . We later found out that the manufacturer had added chicken feathers to their formula. No food value, but the dogs loved it. Of course, I got rid of the dog food and refused to carry it. Customers wouldn’t believe it and still requested the food.
MacDonalds is a good example of advertising wretched quality food and getting customers to believe they are getting quality and value.
Reb

Is that why you go to Burger King three times a day??? :D

The only fast food outlet I will ever visit is Chick Fillet. Burger King is almost as bad as Mickey D’s. :)
Reb

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Food & Water • Re: how to keep bread fresh?

February 27, 2017 anita 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:

daaswampman wrote:Consumers buy what they are programmed to want from the choices they are given. Billions is spent on advertising and packaging, even the placement on the stores shelf is researched and costs big bucks. Few people read labels or compare products. It is actually fascinating to watch videos of people shopping for new products.

The best one I watched was the introduction of a new larger size. It outsold the old size and actually cost more per ounce – 50% more at double the price. Even a new label can change everything! A drink that was not selling had a label change to say “All Natural Sweeteners”. You guessed it, they replaced high fructose corn syrup with high fructose corn syrup and a new label! Sales nearly doubled!

We may think we have choices, but we choose from the choices we are given. Swamp

As a retailer, I witnessed what Swamp has stated. It happened on a regular basis.
My favorite scam was a popular dog food that stated: “IMPROVED, NOW WITH CHICKEN” . We later found out that the manufacturer had added chicken feathers to their formula. No food value, but the dogs loved it. Of course, I got rid of the dog food and refused to carry it. Customers wouldn’t believe it and still requested the food.
MacDonalds is a good example of advertising wretched quality food and getting customers to believe they are getting quality and value.
Reb

Is that why you go to Burger King three times a day??? :D

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Tennessee Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Passed my General exam

February 27, 2017 Mountain 0
apache235 wrote:
Congrats. I’m studying for mine as well and test is in a couple of weeks. Thinking of a Yeasu FT 817 or 857D. Antennas will be the problem due to wife and wires etc. Need something really stealthy.

Good luck on the Exam. I also like that 857D. I like the Yaesu stuff so far.
KK6MOE
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Food & Water • Re: mushrooms …

February 27, 2017 NJMike 0
Inmar wrote:
let’s start discussion with the well-known mushroom ..

Russian “lisickka” (маленькая лиса) “small fox”… :)
English – Cantharellus (I wonder: Americans uses only Latin? I have not seen the English:D )[/b]

That mushroom is called Chanterelle in restaurants.

Mushroom foraging is something I’d like to learn. Thank you for the other forum link. A coworker is very involved with collecting Morel mushrooms. Unfortunately he lives on the other side of the country (West Coast), so I’m unable to forage with him. I’m going to find a local group here.

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

February 27, 2017 Cast Iron 0
NJMike wrote:
Well that took a dark turn. A very realistic possibility though.

Good writing. :thumbsup:

Still reading. :)

Thank you NJMike.

Actually it was toned down a bit from the first draft in terms of darkness.

But I needed to get Claire to a point that will get us to the war.

We are about there now.

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

February 27, 2017 Cast Iron 0

Claire knelt in the dirt, putting seeds into the still cold soil. It was too soon for planting but Jason insisted. They would take later once the soil warmed up, if the seeds did not rot.
Claire’s mother taught Claire everything she knew about plants. It was her mothers passion. Looking back, Claire understood why: It got her mother away from her father.
Claire was wishing it would get her away from Jason.
But he insisted on standing “Overwatch,” as he put it, with his AR15, his “Kit,” and other tactical gear.
Claire continued to sow seeds. She actually did not mind the work, for that matter she enjoyed working the dirt in her hands and under her fingernails. What she did mind was Jason standing around, pawing his rifle, and talking. It interrupted the sounds of nature all around them with his insistent commentary of all things tactical related.
Jason knew nothing tactical related.
In high school he took the military entrance exam, the ASVAB.
He did not score high enough to get into even the most basic military occupation. Given at the time the military was drawing down their numbers and could be very selective of who they choose to enlist, taking only those who passed at a higher percentage rate.
Jason did not make that cut.
Most of Jason’s tactical expertise was gathered from internet forums, magazines featuring covers of tricked out AR15s, and YouTube videos.
As she continued to plant seeds he droned on about their tactical situation, as she ignored. With the exception of those they saw when they made the journey to the market, they have not seen another person in months. What could they have that was worth even taking? An old, shabby, faded single wide trailer on less than a quarter acre land surrounded by overgrowth and shrubs? Aside from the wood stove, the raised bed gardens were likely worth more. And they were not even producing anything as she put seeds in the soil. Likely her bicycle was worth more.
Claire sighed as she finished the last row and stood up.
“Done,” she said simply.
Jason looked at her for a long moment.
“Ok,” he muttered.
“We should clean the gutters and clean out the rain barrels,” Claire suggested, knowing full well, ‘we’ was really ‘her.’
“Yeah, we will do that.”
For the next three hours Claire scrubbed gutters and rain barrels.

Claire wanted to go to market to trade for more food.
Jason refused. He declared he would take her bicycle and do the trading. He was more qualified than her. Fuming, Claire pointed out her bicycle was too small for him. Jason dismissed her observation and took his pack, his AR15 and wheeled out on the bicycle.
Three hours later, Jason returned, ranting about how her bicycle was a piece of junk, and he would never again use it to go anywhere, preferring to be on foot. The tactical situation on a bicycle was unacceptable, riding right into an ambush.
Claire made the mistake of commenting on how she was nearly silent on a bicycle, and could ride past an ambush before anyone even knew she was there.
Jason launched into another OPSEC rant.
He ended a few hours later, at the small cheap wooden kitchen table as she set dinner down in front of him, with how stupid she was to think otherwise.
Claire’s father used to talk to her, look at her the same way. When she felt the anger build inside of her, she would shake and cry with rage. All the hurt, the humility, welling up. She could not help it but shake and tears gathering in her eyes.
She hated herself for it. It felt weak to her. She always felt like she should be stronger. But she never was. Claire looked at female characters in her books who where strong, proud and took nothing from no one. Those women never cowered when confronted. Never took a disparaging comment or look and were never reduced to tears.
This time something was different.
Claire felt the rage, the anger. But rather than white hot, with tears in her eyes, it was cold. Cool. Calculating.
As she set Jason’s dinner down on the table, him finishing his rant with how stupid she was to think otherwise, she looked him right in the eyes. Her eyes reflecting the same cold, cool, and calculating she felt inside.
Quickly he looked away and started eating his dinner she prepared for him.
Claire slowly walked away, still looking at him while he ate. She then turned, and made her own plate of dinner. But she was not hungry. For a moment she stared out the kitchen window, the fading sunset set in the West set the sky in a tinge mix of orange and pink in the clouds in the East. She could see her raised bed gardens that would likely never sprout. She reached for a fork and knife but was mildly surprised to find a eight inch chef’s knife in her hand.
The weight of it felt good in her hand.
Natural even.

Jess had finished for the day, packing up her table and camp chair. She traded not only eggs, but two blocks of goat cheese for five pounds of ground venison and homemade pasta.
It was a good day.
Until she spied Claire pulling up on her bicycle. It was loaded down with packs hanging off the handle bars, each side of the seat stem, and a huge pack on her back. Despite the clear effort Claire had put in hauling all of it up to the market, she smiled a smile Jess had never seen.
“Hi ya, Claire,” Jess greeted her.
“Hi ya, Jess,” Claire returned. “Is there still a empty house around here I can move into,” she asked. Then she finished, “Jason is gone.”
It was the degree of finality in Claire’s voice, the cold look and then the equally cold smile that sent a chill through Jess.

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Guns • Re: Hand guns and go bags in the lower 48 states?

February 27, 2017 handyman777 0

Put a trigger lock on it and keep your (clip-mag) loaded and separate.
Just keep the key for the lock handy or use a combination trigger lock and have it off by one number so its quick and easy to open.
Most states if the the bullets and gun are separate you should be OK.
If its in your go-bag, you still have to dig it out. Its not concealed on your person.
I would try and find the rules for the different states you travel…cali. and new york???? I don’t know how they work, not good from what I hear.

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Guns • Hand guns and go bags in the lower 48 states?

February 27, 2017 RollingwithR 0

Me and my wife drive a truck over the road in all the lower 48 states. We want to add a 9mm to each of the go bags we carry on our truck. I know plenty of drivers who concealed carry a loaded weapon everywhere they go, but when I ask how they do it legaly the answers ether it’s legal at home or worse I don’t care if it’s legal. Now I’m not looking for daily personal carry I just want the 9mm tucked away in my go bag somewhere on my truck. I know the odds of it ever being found are low but I still want to be as legal as possible. So is there a method of legal storage of a firearm in a vehicle that works in all 48 states? For all you non truckers out there keep in mind a big truck doesn’t have a trunk or glove box. Instead we have under the bunk and little cubbies and cabinets that all are accessible from inside the cab. Think really small rv without the bathroom…. thanks in advance for any input here.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Any Friends of Bill W….doing preparedness?

February 27, 2017 woodchipper518 0

After seeing the post about ‘less than legal crops”…I started wondering if there were any friends of Bill Wilson on this forum.

I have little opinion on any crop/plant that can contribute positively to the survival process. I have a definite opinion that weed dulls the senses so I don’t want anyone on my watch/group/family protecting me that imbides in it for recreational uses. But I have the same opinions about alcohol. It has medicinal and cooking purposes but dulls the senses, too. Poppy….same thought stream. Are there poppy fields in the US? (rhetorical question, don’t answer!)

I cannot afford to do anything that makes me less valuable to my group/family. I do have alcohol in my preps but they are sealed in liquid rubber. I have them strictly for medicinal and trading value.

PM me if you are a friend of Bill W. me – 6/26/1987

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The Survival Mom Forum Discussions • Re: illegal to posess more than 7 days food!!!!!

February 27, 2017 Cast Iron 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:you got it – local – VERY local is where the threat is at …. that’s why your personal OPSEC is sooooo very important …. it doesn’t even need to be someone currently in local gooberment that drops the dime …. when the SHTF hits it’ll be a confab of gooberment departments/districts, CERE, civic organizations, schools, churches, business & industry ect ect – and everyone associated is a potential threat … these people aren’t anymore prepared than the average sheeple – if you think they are simply going to die away without using their BS local legal powers – authority – manpower – firepower – to survive over YOU – think again ….

That would be a neat trick around here.

We outnumber the local govt by about 700 to 1.
We got the firepower. We got the manpower.
Pass whatever legal powers, no one here to enforce it.
The advantage of a small town.

the 700 to 1? – you’re saying EVERYONE is a prepper and have food to survive the SHTF without any hand outs?

these people you are talking about will compose the posse groups that’ll be doing the gooberment’s bidding of confiscating – either that or they’ll be free lancing raiders – they’ll be praying on the weaker with or without gooberment BS emergency laws backing them up ….

you think you’ll only be facing the few LEOs currently on the force – they’ll just be the official badge out front of the civilian sheeple posse making the raid look official …

and PLEASE – don’t say something naive as hell about everyone is everyone else’s good ole’ buddy and that won’t be happening around your area ….

Sorry, I hit the wrong key.

700 to 6 is more accurate.
700 to 12 if you include the voting board. Two of those are my neighbors.
No LEO that I know of.

Out here, the vast majority of us have gardens, small livestock, large livestock. Has nothing to do with being preppers, just the way people do things around here. Lot of older folks who, growing up, that is the way it was, that is the way is.

Well, I do not have a crystal ball, tea leaves, fish guts to say how things will go in a SHTF situation. I do not think anyone else does either. I can say the relationships I have now will go a lot further than if I did not.

I do know my neighbors. We are all kinds of decent folks. Cannot say I can see any of them going all Mall Ninja Spider People like and becoming raiders.
I can say most of us would not put up with that kind of crap.

We all know out here we are on our own for the most part. We know we will not survive without helping each other.

If you will excuse me now, I am going to give a dozen eggs to my neighbor.

Statistics: Posted by Cast Iron — Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:51 am