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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 Photon Guy 0
BK in KC wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:I challenge you to list ONE SINGLE THING that Obama accomplished that hasn’t turned out to be a complete disaster

Well he did create a tremendous spike in gun sales, even if he didn’t intend to do so. And he did sign into law a bill that allows people to carry handguns on national reserves, provided they’re licensed to do so. Some of the people in the gun crowd have named Obama the number one gun salesman and Obama himself has admitted that there has been more guns sold during his administration than any other administration.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THE RECENT STORM

January 30, 2017 peekachoo 0

To convert all you need is an orifice above the carburetor and turn off the gas and turn on the propane. The pressure on the orifice may be adjusted as needed to make the engine run right. I have engines now that have run 16 years this way.

Back to the storm, it is just a light winter here. We usually have about 6 weeks to 2 months below freezing. Its only froze about 3 weeks so far.

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Economic Disasters • Re: Ron Paul says economic collapse will still happen

January 30, 2017 rj5156 0
tidewaterva wrote:
The US economy today stands on the ability of borrowers to repay debt.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts Tidewater – and you have obviously given it a lot of thought. I thought this statement really stood out.

I would add that we have to keep the money moving. My folks managed to foresee and avoid losing their retirement last round. Their reaction was to stop using credit cards, which they have always paid in full each month, and to shift assets out of banks as much as possible.

While I respected their fears I lobbied hard for them to continue to participate! Loss of confidence could shut it all down fast. As business owners we try to spread our risk but we choose to participate in credit and banking. We keep it as local as we can.

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Michigan Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everybody

January 30, 2017 daaswampman 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

daaswampman wrote:I wasted endless hours trying to encourage uninterested and lazy people. Lesson learned – it is now all about me and mine. Swamp

I hope “yours” includes me, and i’m hoping there is some gumbo and crawfish in there somewhere… :D

We have an accord! Swamp

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 ReadyMom 0

Here’s something, if you haven’t seen it yet:

Judge Who Blocked Trump’s Order Was Nominated By OBAMA On Recommendation Of CHUCK SCHUMER
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01 … k-schumer/

Image On Saturday night, The Gateway Pundit reported that a liberal New York Judge, Judge Ann Donnelly, issued an emergency stay Saturday night that temporarily blocks the United States government form sending people out of the country after they have landed.

From Fox News:

      “The order barred U.S. border agents from removing anyone who arrived in the U.S. with a valid visa from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. It also covered anyone with an approved refugee application. The Department of Homeland Security said that more than 170 people were denied entry to the U.S. as of Saturday night, according to Reuters.”

Judge Ann Donnelly was nominated by former President Barack Obama on the recommendation from Chuck Schumer.

From The Brooklyn Eagle:

      ” Donnelly was nominated to be a federal judge by President Barack Obama on the recommendation of Sen. Charles Schumer. On Friday, she had the oath of office administered to her by Chief Judge Carol Bagley Amon, and Judge Pamela K. Chen bestowed the ceremonial gavel to her as the newest judge in the court.

      “We are indebted to Sen. Schumer for recommending Ann Donnelly and all of the other outstanding recent appointments,” Bagley Amon said. “She takes the seat vacated by Sandra Townes when Judge Towns took senior status — seat No. 10, created in 1978.””

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Natural Disasters • Re: 12 hour notice sun flare. what would you do?

January 30, 2017 3ADScout 0
Major French wrote:
Would the following tactic to protect electronics? A. Unplug electronics B. put them in ziploc or plastic bags to protect from moisture, C. Put in a cellar, basement, storm bunker, safe room, or fallout shelter until the danger is announced over radio to have officially passed. Cheap analog transistor AM/FM radios could prove invaluable in this scenario, too. Why risk a $500.00 TV or a $300.00 computer when you could use a yard sale transistor radio instead?

Major French- if a Carrington level event was forecasted the last thing I would be worried about is my TV. I don’t think any of the TV broadcasters would survive. Life after a major solar flare would not allow for free time to watch TV even if you Blue ray and TV survived.

I would think time spent on Food and water would be time better spent than protecting consumer electronics. But that is just me. (I don’t watch much TV as it is)

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

America is a business, in fact it’s the biggest business in the world. Far to important to leave to politicians.

AMERICA FIRST, is and always should be our motto. Those who produce, those who contribute, those that love our nation, should not tolerate anti American activity.

In fact we should all be prepared to,fight for our freedoms, even here at home.

To date I’ve penned three lengthy emails to the White House ATTN: the Donald. I’ve received two replys, thanking me for my input.

I have also signed up to,volunteer, working on one of the 6000.00 appointments available via this new administration.

I,don’t really expect to be selected for a position, but their asking for US citizens, especially Vets, to step up to the plate and become involved, in how new policy is implemented.

I’ve advised Domald to do or consider the following.

1. Investigate and prosecute The Clintons, and their associates.
2. Hold funding from sanctuary cities.
3. Illegal immigration.
4. Re Instate border patrol powers.
5. Vetting middle eastern refugees.
6. Reach out to the middle eastern Christians, they MUST be protected.
7. Charge any all protesters with felonies for their part in ANY riots during thse orginized Marchs.
8. Go after Soros and his ilk, using any al tools available, sieze his assets. I reminded Donald that SOROs was a Nazi collaborator, and needs to be held accountable.
9. Release any all lands sized by govt, allow local citizens to make those choices, not DC.
10. Truth in media. Hold accountable fake news. The reporters and the owners.

Please become in offering up observations, and more importantly offer up reasonable solutions.

Keep prepping.

Dirk

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Guns • My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

January 30, 2017 Major French 0

The follow AR-15s I can in good conscience recommend for immediate usage unmodified:
A. Springfield Armory Saint
B. Civilian Force Arms Xena 15
C. Ruger AR556

These each have so many good features that they rank ‘superior’ in the quest for budget, quality AR-15s. Cheap should not mean garbage.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 BK in KC 0
Photon Guy wrote:
After all, I gave Obama a chance and I was skeptical about him becoming President when he beat McCain in 2008 and I know a lot of people here might disagree with me on this but looking back I must say he was OK. He was certainly better than Bill.

Oh hell no! Bill was a poonhound and a cad but for all of his faults he actually worked with the Republican opposition and had some meaningful successes. Working with Newt Gingritch he managed to actually balance the budget, something not even Reagan had been able to do. He also oversaw welfare reform with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996. The act stipulated that people could receive no more than five years of government benefits in a lifetime, though states could set their limits lower and many did, with some instituting a two-year lifetime limit. It required a certain percentage of welfare recipients in states to be working, and said that those who couldn’t find jobs would have to participate in community service or get vocational training. Those who didn’t work or volunteer would eventually be kicked off the welfare rolls.

Of course GW Bush managed to squander all of those successes with his “compassionate conservative” BS *spit*. What a horrible President that guy turned out to be. Then along comes Obama who manages to add over 9 trillion to the national debt (That’ $9,000,000,000,000) and ruining healthcare while sowing chaos around the globe. I challenge you to list ONE SINGLE THING that Obama accomplished that hasn’t turned out to be a complete disaster

So now Trump has to deal with the last 16 years worth of damage those two jackholes left in their wake.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 ajax727 0

It is great that Trump is doing what he said he would do if elected and being elected he seems to be a man of his words .This ban might or might not save lives but it is reasonable to assume it will , you don’t put your livestock in a pen and then leave the gate open for the vermin to kill them .
In China it is the year of the Rooster , in the USA it is the year of the protesters . Each time Trump uses his pen they the lost party of dems cry and run to the streets to march and protest .
It must be there up bring as children they must have ruled the home by pitching fits and making demands . I do see there actions as being inline with spoiled brats or the give it to me or I will take it type people .

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How To Start Prepping (The Basics) • Re: Anybody shop at Harbor Freight?

January 30, 2017 justme_noname 0

For the OP on safes. I’ve seen videos and a show on TV about safes. There is very few that can last through what two or more good crooks can do to a safe. On a TV show where they bought several brands and tested them, the safes last only minutes, most under one. Once you get that crowbar under there and get a good bite, it’s pretty much over. I also noticed, the first thing they do, push the safe over on its back. It gives them some crowbar grease to work it in there. So, having that thing bolted to the floor very good may help.

Just like most anything tho, locking things just slows them down. It rarely stops them. If you lock your car doors, break the window. Trunks, pop the lock. Lock your house door, pry your way in, kick it down or just go through the window. Still, we all try anyway.

The best way to stop a crook, lead. That usually works well, very well if properly done. :rolleyes:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 Photon Guy 0
ReadyMom wrote:
I have to agree … and I’m an immigrant. We came to the USA in 1960. 7 days aboard the QE2, across the Atlantic. My parents had to swear allegiance to the American flag BEFORE they even left English soil. THey had to have 2 sponsors EACH, to get here. We had to have a place to go, when we got here.

We were here for 7 years,as required for citizenship. Scraping to get by, because they started over from scratch. They sold their home and most of their belongings & household goods to get here. We had to live with my mom’s brother/wife/2 small kids in a small Chicago apartment (so there were 8 of us in that apartment) for several months, till we could rent our own apartment. Every day, my aunt gave my dad bus fare to get to the city to look for a job and bus fare to get back home again. He took a sandwich in a brown bag for lunch and he walked the streets of Chicago, looking for a job. He got one in retail to get our new life started … WITHOUT federal handouts. Just the generosity of my aunt & uncle.

I can remember sitting in an itty-bitty 2nd floor apartment, on a rolled up carpet, waiting for furniture to be delivered to our new home. Tiny in comparison to what we left behind. The furniture we got that day lasted us for DECADES, because we still couldn’t afford to get new years later. It cost too much to keep this new life in our new country. We used slip covers till the furniture nearly fell apart. I see photos of that new furniture and realize it was bare-minimum, low-cost furniture. A couple of tables from family for the living room. Baths in a kitchen sink, because our bathroom only had a sink & a toilet.

So, yea, it’s complicated. Some folks NEED to come here to flee persecution. To get a better life than the one they have in their home-country. But American grace has been taken advantage of by the ‘huddled masses’ , and so many dangerous non-vetted enemies have come to this country. I’m sorry for the ones who want to get here legally. I’m NOT a Trump fan. I’m cautiously watching what he’s doing. But, immigration is out of control and when things get that bad, a reset is needed to get back on track. Doesn’t have to be permanent. No one said what Trump is doing is permanent. I haven’t heard/read that. Has anyone else? If something isn’t done, we’ll become a Germany or an England with all their problems from the Muslem Extremists that are now there. Whole towns being taken over. Not just inhabited … TAKEN OVER. When my family came here … we came to INTEGRATE with fellow citizens. NOT take over, destroy, mame & kill. {{{Rant over}}} -k

Wow that’s quite a story. Sounds like you and your family really scraped through to make it in the USA, the land of opportunity. But sometimes, even here in the good old USA, all too often you’ve got to make your own opportunity. The story of you and your family reminds me a bit of what President Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”

And at first I wasn’t that much of a Trump fan either. I did vote for him mostly because I was voting against Hillary but now I say give him a chance. After all, I gave Obama a chance and I was skeptical about him becoming President when he beat McCain in 2008 and I know a lot of people here might disagree with me on this but looking back I must say he was OK. He was certainly better than Bill. And you have to admit Donald Trump is a man of action. I’ve known no President whose done as much as Trump has done in his first week in office. And he does believe in gun rights, one of the big benefits you get from leaving the UK and coming to the USA.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 kenjabroni 0

Im happy he had the cahones to go ahead with this executive order to get ahead of a possible attack. I agree with others here thinking an attack is coming. The ones doing it are most likely here already I think. Its nice to see someone trying to protect the US before worrying about all these PC snowflakes.

Good job by the seal team taking out the terrorists in Yemen. Good job by our people kicking some ISIS butt around the globe too.

Keep on keepin on

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 29, 2017 rj5156 0

Brian’s Dad’s cat, Tom, is settling right in. He’s our cat now. He helps me make the bed and sometimes forgets and stays in it! We integrate new creatures well, lots of practice and we run a VERY tight ship. More about that another time, but Tom is getting on well with all our other pets now. He was very concerned about the dogs when he started feeling well enough to notice them. Yesterday he trotted right through the middle of them. Today he sent Bear out of the kitchen. He’s catching on fast.

Tom

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He likes other cats – unlike the rest of our cats who ALL prefer the dogs company. Tom especially adores Smokey. We are not sure he is making the best choice in friends. Smokey has never been a very good example.

Smokey

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Sadly, Tom is ORANGE! Smokey has been an unholy terror from the start, if you’ve followed from the beginning here you’ve heard how hard we’ve worked with her to civilize her enough to be able to put up with her. Velcro is pretty sun-faded in this picture, he’s flaming orange in wintertime. He has never had any patience whatsoever for Smokey’s shenanigans. He will chase her down, corner her and administer discipline as he feels appropriate. Smokey is a screamer. She hollers bloody murder any time Velcro even gets close to her. He has NEVER hurt her, though he has certainly put the fear in her.

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Smokey is interested in Tom – but he’s orange. She watches him from a safe distance. Tom is feeling well enough now that he’d love to play with her, she’s a busy girl, always skittering around, sliding across the floor, throwing toys and catching them, tossing them again and chasing them. Tom has always loved being outside but he is so taken with Smokey he’s forgotten outside exists.

He follows her around. Lays down and looks away from her. Oozes up as close as he can get to her. Plays with her toys and watches to see if Smokey notices. Bats the toys her way. He has sure been a persistent fellow. Not that it has gotten him much. He might get up almost touching Smokey when she’s napping or unawares. When she realizes he is there she comes un-done. Hisses, levitates, scrambles away as fast and as far as she can go. Tom is patient. He just starts over.

While this is going on, Bear dog is pining to be pals with Tom! Bear loves everybody but he specially adores the cats. But Tom is NOT interested in being friends. Bear creeps close as he can get and looks politely away from Tom. Tom notices he is there and comes un-done! Hisses, levitates – but no longer runs. Tom has discovered his power with the dogs. They all back down right away when a cat speaks to them with feeling. Our cats can not only take a dog fair and square – they will work together. Make one cat mad and ALL the cats are mad. Our dogs tippytoe carefully around cats and mind them quickly. They are rewarded with kitty-kisses, scraps – and entire bowls of catfood tumped onto the floor so they can eat it while the cat hops down and sits very close, or touching the dog as it eats.

Bear playing nicely with the old lady, Gabby here. He is way bigger than her so he lays down and lets her chew on him.

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We are entertained. Think they’ll all end up great pals in the end. They have to work it out amongst them, we can’t make it happen. We just enforce order so there won’t be any hard feelings to slow things down.

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Check In Here Maine Preppers • Re: looking to form a serious group

January 29, 2017 hancockcounty 0

Thanks everyone.

That’s really sad. I don’t think that people realize how important it is to be diligent in times of peace. We have lost so many skill since the times of the great depression. And it will take a long time to learn them back.
I thought about contacting my neighbors, but i think that the chances are the interest won’t be there. Know that sounds like a defeated mindset. That is why i posted here.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 daaswampman 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
the FIGHT is on – just the beginning salvo of what’s to come – Trump chose the immigrant ban because they see it as the biggest threat right now ….

the roundup of the criminal illegals got a quiet start this last week – Milwaukee County Dave Clarke combined with the FEDs to hogtie a half dozen warrant wanted illegals around the county … wait until the ripple becomes a tidal wave of nationwide roundups …. the airport protests will become fulltime protests – wait until it hits the sanctuary cities and Prez Trump pulls the FED $$$$$$ – nothing gets the liberals howling more than having the financial giveaways pulled ….

I agree and he will not loose any votes!

Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them dogies movin’, rawhide.
Don’t try to understand ’em,
Just rope ’em, throw, and brand ’em.
Soon we’ll be livin’ high and wide.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
kenjabroni wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:

kenjabroni wrote:
Oh how I wish they had Meijer down here in Texas…….

I got a coleman cook stove at the auction today for 10 bucks. Missed out on a few of the coleman lamps. People were going nuts over those, but didnt even look twice at the stove. I also got a percolator that can be used on a cooktop, grill or fire. Two nice things to add. Now time to go get some coleman fuel.

in regard to stove/lantern fuel … if you have anything like the Amish around – off grid people by the bushel basket – see if you can find refined naptha sold in bulk by a fuel distributor or maybe a local gas station – not the Sunnyside crap sold in the paint department – it’ll be less than half $$$$ of Coleman ….

also for the longer SHTF possibilities – vehicle fuel injector cleaner mixed into regular lead-free gas will extend the life of the Coleman generator part … a few bottles go a long way …. you should have a few replacement generators in the spare parts kit – a definite problem part …

Thanks for the info on this Illini. I really didnt know much about it but have done some research figuring out what you were talking about. If I was in Indiana still Id probably be able to find that stuff in bulk because we werent too far from amish country. Im not sure I will have much luck with it here in TX……I will keep my eyes open. Nice to have alternatives that could save money for sure. Thanks again

actually been looking for the Amish stash around Nappanee – they get the naptha delivered like fuel oil – most have a barrel around the place ….

if you get into the Coleman lanterns – the mantles need to be stocked – great item for bartering also …. good source for buying in bulk from the factory ….

http://www.americanmantle.us/american-m … fault.aspx

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Russian Embassy Flooded With American Men

January 29, 2017 daaswampman 0

Breaking news from – Swamp-Times – Fake News to amuse!
Russian Embassy Flooded With American Men Seeking Visas!

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence:

Russia’s parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause “substantial bodily harm” and does not occur more than once a year.

The move, which eliminates criminal liability in such cases, makes a violation punishable by a fine of roughly $500, or a 15-day arrest, provided there is no repeat within 12 months.

The bill now goes to the rubber-stamp upper chamber, where no opposition is expected. It then must be signed by President Vladimir Putin, who has signaled his support.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told journalists that family conflicts do “not necessarily constitute domestic violence.”

The passage by the parliament, or Duma, reverses a ruling by the Supreme Court last year, subsequently backed by parliament, that decriminalized battery that does not inflict bodily harm, but retained criminal charges involving battery against family members. That reform is effectively reversed by Friday’s vote.

Andrei Isayev of the main Kremlin faction, the United Russia, said lawmakers are “heeding the public call” by correcting a mistake they made last year.

Russia is one of three countries in Europe and Central Asia that do not have laws specifically targeting domestic violence, according to The Economist.

Critics of the new measure warned it would encourage domestic violence and fuel crime.

“This bill would establish violence as a norm of conduct,” Communist lawmaker Yuri Sinelshchikov said during the debate.

Women’s rights lawyer Mari Davtyan told The Moscow Times that the legislative moves are dangerous and “send a message that the state doesn’t consider familial battery fundamentally wrong anymore.”

A survey this month by state-run pollster VTsIOM found 19% of Russians said “it can be acceptable” to hit one’s wife, husband or child “in certain circumstances,” the Associated Press reported. The nationwide poll by phone of 1,800 people was held Jan. 13-15. The survey had a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points.

In many ways, this reflects the thrust of an old Russian proverb: “If he beats you it means he loves you.”

http://www.kare11.com/news/nation-now/r … /394158468

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

the FIGHT is on – just the beginning salvo of what’s to come – Trump chose the immigrant ban because they see it as the biggest threat right now ….

the roundup of the criminal illegals got a quiet start this last week – Milwaukee County Dave Clarke combined with the FEDs to hogtie a half dozen warrant wanted illegals around the county … wait until the ripple becomes a tidal wave of nationwide roundups …. the airport protests will become fulltime protests – wait until it hits the sanctuary cities and Prez Trump pulls the FED $$$$$$ – nothing gets the liberals howling more than having the financial giveaways pulled ….

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 rickdun 0
Dirk Williams wrote:
Freedom, isn’t free. We The People pay for it in blood sweat and tears. May Good bless the team six member who gave his life yesterday, smoking the Yemany, terriost HQ.

These men will willingly give their lives for tangable results.

We have seen nothing yet. Poops about to hit the fan, I fully support the actions of our 45 th President. Hunt these culls down, kill em all, kill their families, their dogs and their goats.

These people only understand one thing, that a giant stick.

Tic Toc.

Dirk

AMEN.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Freedom, isn’t free. We The People pay for it in blood sweat and tears. May Good bless the team six member who gave his life yesterday, smoking the Yemany, terriost HQ.

These men will willingly give their lives for tangable results.

We have seen nothing yet. Poops about to hit the fan, I fully support the actions of our 45 th President. Hunt these culls down, kill em all, kill their families, their dogs and their goats.

These people only understand one thing, that a giant stick.

Tic Toc.

Dirk

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 rickdun 0
Blondie wrote:

rickdun wrote:

anita wrote:Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Anita, all rights, to free rent, free health care, free food stamps, free transportation, free heat, free electricity, free cell phone, free attorney, free cloths, free everything and guess who’s paying for it.

Green card holders can get their free chit. The language on the card “lawful permanent resident” ain’t so. They are term cards of 3 yr considered temporary & easier to deport. And 10 yr, which gets renewed.

Refugee status, granted by our State Department, yes, you qualify for “assistance”.

Blondie, LAWFUL permanent resident don’t matter, they are refugees/illegals, they get everything free, on our dime or my penney. Try and deney a refugee/illegal anything and see what happens. In the great liberal state of California, they even get a free drivers license and can drink and kill somebody, it’s already happened in that state and many others, because it’s their right.

I will say this, if some refugee/illegal would happen to seriously injury/kill one of my kids/grandkids, I will spend the rest of my life in prison (on your dime), at least I’ll get free health care, 3 hots and a cot, free electricity, free heat, free so on and so on.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Blondie 0
rickdun wrote:

anita wrote:Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Anita, all rights, to free rent, free health care, free food stamps, free transportation, free heat, free electricity, free cell phone, free attorney, free cloths, free everything and guess who’s paying for it.

Green card holders can get their free chit. The language on the card “lawful permanent resident” ain’t so. They are term cards of 3 yr considered temporary & easier to deport. And 10 yr, which gets renewed.

Refugee status, granted by our State Department, yes, you qualify for “assistance”.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 kenjabroni 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

kenjabroni wrote:
Oh how I wish they had Meijer down here in Texas…….

I got a coleman cook stove at the auction today for 10 bucks. Missed out on a few of the coleman lamps. People were going nuts over those, but didnt even look twice at the stove. I also got a percolator that can be used on a cooktop, grill or fire. Two nice things to add. Now time to go get some coleman fuel.

in regard to stove/lantern fuel … if you have anything like the Amish around – off grid people by the bushel basket – see if you can find refined naptha sold in bulk by a fuel distributor or maybe a local gas station – not the Sunnyside crap sold in the paint department – it’ll be less than half $$$$ of Coleman ….

also for the longer SHTF possibilities – vehicle fuel injector cleaner mixed into regular lead-free gas will extend the life of the Coleman generator part … a few bottles go a long way …. you should have a few replacement generators in the spare parts kit – a definite problem part …

Thanks for the info on this Illini. I really didnt know much about it but have done some research figuring out what you were talking about. If I was in Indiana still Id probably be able to find that stuff in bulk because we werent too far from amish country. Im not sure I will have much luck with it here in TX……I will keep my eyes open. Nice to have alternatives that could save money for sure. Thanks again

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 kenjabroni 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ken, I’m sitting on 25, maybe 30 gallons of Coleman white gas right now. every time i went to by sporting goods store i would stop and use a hacked 30% off coupon for a gallon. That stuff has a shelf life longer then I do :D

You should send me some…….You know so I can sample it……make sure it works as intended :rofl:

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THE RECENT STORM

January 29, 2017 rj5156 0
peekachoo wrote:
It is endless what can be done with propane. A propne company was trading out old tanks and selling new tanks and selling me the old ones for $50 each. I made grain silos,water tanks, goat sheds, BB pits, feed bunks, air tanks, and even rebuilt some for propane tanks..We were driving out in Utah and ran out of gas in our 1979 Bronco. We had propane tanks on our pop up camper on the back. I converted the Bronco to propane and we drove 50 miles to the next gas station. Generators and pumps can be converted to propane for less than $20. We try to keep 2 years worth of propane on hand at all times.

Peekachoo you could do an entire thread on each of those uses! The propane conversion – WOW – THAT’s recourceful!

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Brand new to this forum

January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0

I stand corrected…. I was looking at the monthly rainfall chart not the annual for my region. Monthly precip is less than 1″ but annual is about 9.5″, so the water catchment system will definitely help! For anyone curious, here is the annual chart for the Moab region: Moab weather averages

Annual high temperature:71.7°F
Annual low temperature:42°F
Average temperature:56.85°F
Average annual precipitation – rainfall:9.49 inch
Days per year with precipitation – rainfall:-
Annual hours of sunshine:-
Av. annual snowfall:6 inch
Moab Climate Graph – Utah Climate Chart

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January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0
FarminAndy57 wrote:
Wecome Dave,
Im new here too. Have been getting prepared since the 90’s and am just venturing into the solar battery terrain – the mention of the tesla powerwall caught my attention in your post. anyone know anybody who has purchased one?? what made you decide to go use that as part of your set up?

have had solar for a while but it needs dte to run and were thinking about going off-grid completely.

thanks everyone,

Andy G (rural Mich.)

Hey Andy! Thanks for your post. I’m originally from MI myself (Grand Rapids)but moved to Utah 5 years ago where there is plenty of sunshine, but apparently not enough water. I chose the Moab region of south-eastern Utah for my new “latter-day”homestead for the sunshine and natural beauty, but am running into the water scarcity problem. I would love to talk to you about the Tesla Powerwall system and please PM or email me anytime. I have chosen this system primarily because of its ease of use. I like the idea that it will charge and save enough power to run a moderate-sized home (including some luxuries) for an entire day. For those who may be reading and are interested in this system: I have researched this subject for several months and am taking the liberty here of summarizing a ton of information I have read… The fact that it is a self-contained, all-in-one system, is a huge selling point as well. They make everything you need for this power system, from the solar panels themselves , to the adapters and converters to THE AC power your house/building will ask for, to the very batteries that will hold said charge from the Sun until you are ready to use it. With the Tesla Powerwall power system there is no need to piece together components from here and there to make a complete system. From what I’ve read, everything is available directly from Tesla, and they are even happy to help you configure your own custom system. The only caveat, I have with this system,
(which should demonstrate that I am not a Tesla salesman…in case anyone wondered, lol) is that this system is somewhat pricey, possibly even to the point of being cost-prohibitive to some, with a price-tag of around 5,000 for the small moderate house, (think 2-bedroom, 1-bath) in my description.
For me, it’s well worth that price for a system that I can hook up, plug it in and forget it… as long as the sun shines I’ll have power day AND night, (unlike some solar systems). I plan to have a separate powerwall system on each of my main buildings, Primary residence, Armory, Cafeteria,Barracks, and another to run the perimeter lights and guard towers. So, I’ve calculated about 5k per each of these buildings for reliable power. I only wish water was this easy! We will have a water catchment system but the problem is that it doesn’t rain much in this region, (our friends here in AZ will agree)….less than 1″ per year. Thus the lack of groundwater for a well as well.

If there is ANYONE here who is familiar with this type of arrid, high-desert, red-rock terrain, and knows of a water solution that may work for a small family compound such as what I plan to build, I’d LOVE to hear it!
My ideas now revolve around trying to buy property near a creek or river that I can possibly tap into legally.I may have to just hoard and store as much water as possible, but then there is the rationing of said water, so that’s a pain.If I know my family and friends, that water is gonna go fast! I need a re-supply plan.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 IceFire 0

Got another garden beds framed up today. Still have to till and manure them, once I can get to my tiller, that is. Right now, stuff from the other greenhouse that got blown away/destroyed by the wind is blocking my access. Need to get the other greenhouse frame moved over, anchored down, and start getting it roofed and put together and things moved back in.

Still need to get wood to get the last 7 beds framed…5 in the current row, and 2 next to where the greenhouse will be.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 anita 0
ReadyMom wrote:
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The judge’s temporary stay bans the U.S. from deporting people from nations subject to Trump’s travel ban, saying travelers who were detained had a strong argument their rights had been violated.—-snip–

Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Also, really glad that jeh johnson is no longer on the case!

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January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0

“Chickens aren’t difficult at all. Personally, I prefer the dual-purpose (both meat and eggs) heritage breed chickens, as they tend to be a bit hardier, although not “optimized” for producing one or the other. Breeds that are “optimized” for egg-laying are egg-laying machines, but usually not very meaty, while the Cornish cross chickens are optimized for meat production; however, they need to be butchered at 6-8 weeks old (believe me, at that age they are HUGE) or they will die of heart attacks, as their hearts and blood vessels can’t keep up with their growth rate. Do some research. I would suggest the “Storey’s Guide to Raising Chickens”. They also have guides to raising beef cattle, milk cows, pigs, sheep, dairy goats, meat goats, bees, rabbits, horses, etc. The Storey’s guides cover EVERYTHING: different breeds, housing (including different types of housing and how to build it), feed requirements, veterinary care, etc. Even sections on butchering.”

Thank you IceFire, I will find those guides! I appreciate the info!

Also, thanks to everyone who replied and welcomed me. It’s great to be in this community! Hey, not only is a great source for information, but it helps me sound less crazy when I talk to people about my plans and what I expect to happen in the near future…(saying that I am in a network of preppers who have the same mind-set) or I could just point to my shirt that says, “Oh, I’m sorry! Is my crazy showing?”

Thanks again everyone, and I hope to have a great update soon. I’m still looking for the right piece of land in my chosen region, (water is the main problem).

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