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How To Start Prepping (The Basics) • Re: Anybody shop at Harbor Freight?

January 30, 2017 justme_noname 0

For the OP on safes. I’ve seen videos and a show on TV about safes. There is very few that can last through what two or more good crooks can do to a safe. On a TV show where they bought several brands and tested them, the safes last only minutes, most under one. Once you get that crowbar under there and get a good bite, it’s pretty much over. I also noticed, the first thing they do, push the safe over on its back. It gives them some crowbar grease to work it in there. So, having that thing bolted to the floor very good may help.

Just like most anything tho, locking things just slows them down. It rarely stops them. If you lock your car doors, break the window. Trunks, pop the lock. Lock your house door, pry your way in, kick it down or just go through the window. Still, we all try anyway.

The best way to stop a crook, lead. That usually works well, very well if properly done. :rolleyes:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 Photon Guy 0
ReadyMom wrote:
I have to agree … and I’m an immigrant. We came to the USA in 1960. 7 days aboard the QE2, across the Atlantic. My parents had to swear allegiance to the American flag BEFORE they even left English soil. THey had to have 2 sponsors EACH, to get here. We had to have a place to go, when we got here.

We were here for 7 years,as required for citizenship. Scraping to get by, because they started over from scratch. They sold their home and most of their belongings & household goods to get here. We had to live with my mom’s brother/wife/2 small kids in a small Chicago apartment (so there were 8 of us in that apartment) for several months, till we could rent our own apartment. Every day, my aunt gave my dad bus fare to get to the city to look for a job and bus fare to get back home again. He took a sandwich in a brown bag for lunch and he walked the streets of Chicago, looking for a job. He got one in retail to get our new life started … WITHOUT federal handouts. Just the generosity of my aunt & uncle.

I can remember sitting in an itty-bitty 2nd floor apartment, on a rolled up carpet, waiting for furniture to be delivered to our new home. Tiny in comparison to what we left behind. The furniture we got that day lasted us for DECADES, because we still couldn’t afford to get new years later. It cost too much to keep this new life in our new country. We used slip covers till the furniture nearly fell apart. I see photos of that new furniture and realize it was bare-minimum, low-cost furniture. A couple of tables from family for the living room. Baths in a kitchen sink, because our bathroom only had a sink & a toilet.

So, yea, it’s complicated. Some folks NEED to come here to flee persecution. To get a better life than the one they have in their home-country. But American grace has been taken advantage of by the ‘huddled masses’ , and so many dangerous non-vetted enemies have come to this country. I’m sorry for the ones who want to get here legally. I’m NOT a Trump fan. I’m cautiously watching what he’s doing. But, immigration is out of control and when things get that bad, a reset is needed to get back on track. Doesn’t have to be permanent. No one said what Trump is doing is permanent. I haven’t heard/read that. Has anyone else? If something isn’t done, we’ll become a Germany or an England with all their problems from the Muslem Extremists that are now there. Whole towns being taken over. Not just inhabited … TAKEN OVER. When my family came here … we came to INTEGRATE with fellow citizens. NOT take over, destroy, mame & kill. {{{Rant over}}} -k

Wow that’s quite a story. Sounds like you and your family really scraped through to make it in the USA, the land of opportunity. But sometimes, even here in the good old USA, all too often you’ve got to make your own opportunity. The story of you and your family reminds me a bit of what President Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”

And at first I wasn’t that much of a Trump fan either. I did vote for him mostly because I was voting against Hillary but now I say give him a chance. After all, I gave Obama a chance and I was skeptical about him becoming President when he beat McCain in 2008 and I know a lot of people here might disagree with me on this but looking back I must say he was OK. He was certainly better than Bill. And you have to admit Donald Trump is a man of action. I’ve known no President whose done as much as Trump has done in his first week in office. And he does believe in gun rights, one of the big benefits you get from leaving the UK and coming to the USA.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 30, 2017 kenjabroni 0

Im happy he had the cahones to go ahead with this executive order to get ahead of a possible attack. I agree with others here thinking an attack is coming. The ones doing it are most likely here already I think. Its nice to see someone trying to protect the US before worrying about all these PC snowflakes.

Good job by the seal team taking out the terrorists in Yemen. Good job by our people kicking some ISIS butt around the globe too.

Keep on keepin on

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 29, 2017 rj5156 0

Brian’s Dad’s cat, Tom, is settling right in. He’s our cat now. He helps me make the bed and sometimes forgets and stays in it! We integrate new creatures well, lots of practice and we run a VERY tight ship. More about that another time, but Tom is getting on well with all our other pets now. He was very concerned about the dogs when he started feeling well enough to notice them. Yesterday he trotted right through the middle of them. Today he sent Bear out of the kitchen. He’s catching on fast.

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He likes other cats – unlike the rest of our cats who ALL prefer the dogs company. Tom especially adores Smokey. We are not sure he is making the best choice in friends. Smokey has never been a very good example.

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Sadly, Tom is ORANGE! Smokey has been an unholy terror from the start, if you’ve followed from the beginning here you’ve heard how hard we’ve worked with her to civilize her enough to be able to put up with her. Velcro is pretty sun-faded in this picture, he’s flaming orange in wintertime. He has never had any patience whatsoever for Smokey’s shenanigans. He will chase her down, corner her and administer discipline as he feels appropriate. Smokey is a screamer. She hollers bloody murder any time Velcro even gets close to her. He has NEVER hurt her, though he has certainly put the fear in her.

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Smokey is interested in Tom – but he’s orange. She watches him from a safe distance. Tom is feeling well enough now that he’d love to play with her, she’s a busy girl, always skittering around, sliding across the floor, throwing toys and catching them, tossing them again and chasing them. Tom has always loved being outside but he is so taken with Smokey he’s forgotten outside exists.

He follows her around. Lays down and looks away from her. Oozes up as close as he can get to her. Plays with her toys and watches to see if Smokey notices. Bats the toys her way. He has sure been a persistent fellow. Not that it has gotten him much. He might get up almost touching Smokey when she’s napping or unawares. When she realizes he is there she comes un-done. Hisses, levitates, scrambles away as fast and as far as she can go. Tom is patient. He just starts over.

While this is going on, Bear dog is pining to be pals with Tom! Bear loves everybody but he specially adores the cats. But Tom is NOT interested in being friends. Bear creeps close as he can get and looks politely away from Tom. Tom notices he is there and comes un-done! Hisses, levitates – but no longer runs. Tom has discovered his power with the dogs. They all back down right away when a cat speaks to them with feeling. Our cats can not only take a dog fair and square – they will work together. Make one cat mad and ALL the cats are mad. Our dogs tippytoe carefully around cats and mind them quickly. They are rewarded with kitty-kisses, scraps – and entire bowls of catfood tumped onto the floor so they can eat it while the cat hops down and sits very close, or touching the dog as it eats.

Bear playing nicely with the old lady, Gabby here. He is way bigger than her so he lays down and lets her chew on him.

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We are entertained. Think they’ll all end up great pals in the end. They have to work it out amongst them, we can’t make it happen. We just enforce order so there won’t be any hard feelings to slow things down.

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Check In Here Maine Preppers • Re: looking to form a serious group

January 29, 2017 hancockcounty 0

Thanks everyone.

That’s really sad. I don’t think that people realize how important it is to be diligent in times of peace. We have lost so many skill since the times of the great depression. And it will take a long time to learn them back.
I thought about contacting my neighbors, but i think that the chances are the interest won’t be there. Know that sounds like a defeated mindset. That is why i posted here.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 daaswampman 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
the FIGHT is on – just the beginning salvo of what’s to come – Trump chose the immigrant ban because they see it as the biggest threat right now ….

the roundup of the criminal illegals got a quiet start this last week – Milwaukee County Dave Clarke combined with the FEDs to hogtie a half dozen warrant wanted illegals around the county … wait until the ripple becomes a tidal wave of nationwide roundups …. the airport protests will become fulltime protests – wait until it hits the sanctuary cities and Prez Trump pulls the FED $$$$$$ – nothing gets the liberals howling more than having the financial giveaways pulled ….

I agree and he will not loose any votes!

Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them dogies movin’, rawhide.
Don’t try to understand ’em,
Just rope ’em, throw, and brand ’em.
Soon we’ll be livin’ high and wide.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
kenjabroni wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:

kenjabroni wrote:
Oh how I wish they had Meijer down here in Texas…….

I got a coleman cook stove at the auction today for 10 bucks. Missed out on a few of the coleman lamps. People were going nuts over those, but didnt even look twice at the stove. I also got a percolator that can be used on a cooktop, grill or fire. Two nice things to add. Now time to go get some coleman fuel.

in regard to stove/lantern fuel … if you have anything like the Amish around – off grid people by the bushel basket – see if you can find refined naptha sold in bulk by a fuel distributor or maybe a local gas station – not the Sunnyside crap sold in the paint department – it’ll be less than half $$$$ of Coleman ….

also for the longer SHTF possibilities – vehicle fuel injector cleaner mixed into regular lead-free gas will extend the life of the Coleman generator part … a few bottles go a long way …. you should have a few replacement generators in the spare parts kit – a definite problem part …

Thanks for the info on this Illini. I really didnt know much about it but have done some research figuring out what you were talking about. If I was in Indiana still Id probably be able to find that stuff in bulk because we werent too far from amish country. Im not sure I will have much luck with it here in TX……I will keep my eyes open. Nice to have alternatives that could save money for sure. Thanks again

actually been looking for the Amish stash around Nappanee – they get the naptha delivered like fuel oil – most have a barrel around the place ….

if you get into the Coleman lanterns – the mantles need to be stocked – great item for bartering also …. good source for buying in bulk from the factory ….

http://www.americanmantle.us/american-m … fault.aspx

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Russian Embassy Flooded With American Men

January 29, 2017 daaswampman 0

Breaking news from – Swamp-Times – Fake News to amuse!
Russian Embassy Flooded With American Men Seeking Visas!

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence:

Russia’s parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause “substantial bodily harm” and does not occur more than once a year.

The move, which eliminates criminal liability in such cases, makes a violation punishable by a fine of roughly $500, or a 15-day arrest, provided there is no repeat within 12 months.

The bill now goes to the rubber-stamp upper chamber, where no opposition is expected. It then must be signed by President Vladimir Putin, who has signaled his support.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told journalists that family conflicts do “not necessarily constitute domestic violence.”

The passage by the parliament, or Duma, reverses a ruling by the Supreme Court last year, subsequently backed by parliament, that decriminalized battery that does not inflict bodily harm, but retained criminal charges involving battery against family members. That reform is effectively reversed by Friday’s vote.

Andrei Isayev of the main Kremlin faction, the United Russia, said lawmakers are “heeding the public call” by correcting a mistake they made last year.

Russia is one of three countries in Europe and Central Asia that do not have laws specifically targeting domestic violence, according to The Economist.

Critics of the new measure warned it would encourage domestic violence and fuel crime.

“This bill would establish violence as a norm of conduct,” Communist lawmaker Yuri Sinelshchikov said during the debate.

Women’s rights lawyer Mari Davtyan told The Moscow Times that the legislative moves are dangerous and “send a message that the state doesn’t consider familial battery fundamentally wrong anymore.”

A survey this month by state-run pollster VTsIOM found 19% of Russians said “it can be acceptable” to hit one’s wife, husband or child “in certain circumstances,” the Associated Press reported. The nationwide poll by phone of 1,800 people was held Jan. 13-15. The survey had a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points.

In many ways, this reflects the thrust of an old Russian proverb: “If he beats you it means he loves you.”

http://www.kare11.com/news/nation-now/r … /394158468

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

the FIGHT is on – just the beginning salvo of what’s to come – Trump chose the immigrant ban because they see it as the biggest threat right now ….

the roundup of the criminal illegals got a quiet start this last week – Milwaukee County Dave Clarke combined with the FEDs to hogtie a half dozen warrant wanted illegals around the county … wait until the ripple becomes a tidal wave of nationwide roundups …. the airport protests will become fulltime protests – wait until it hits the sanctuary cities and Prez Trump pulls the FED $$$$$$ – nothing gets the liberals howling more than having the financial giveaways pulled ….

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 rickdun 0
Dirk Williams wrote:
Freedom, isn’t free. We The People pay for it in blood sweat and tears. May Good bless the team six member who gave his life yesterday, smoking the Yemany, terriost HQ.

These men will willingly give their lives for tangable results.

We have seen nothing yet. Poops about to hit the fan, I fully support the actions of our 45 th President. Hunt these culls down, kill em all, kill their families, their dogs and their goats.

These people only understand one thing, that a giant stick.

Tic Toc.

Dirk

AMEN.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Freedom, isn’t free. We The People pay for it in blood sweat and tears. May Good bless the team six member who gave his life yesterday, smoking the Yemany, terriost HQ.

These men will willingly give their lives for tangable results.

We have seen nothing yet. Poops about to hit the fan, I fully support the actions of our 45 th President. Hunt these culls down, kill em all, kill their families, their dogs and their goats.

These people only understand one thing, that a giant stick.

Tic Toc.

Dirk

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 rickdun 0
Blondie wrote:

rickdun wrote:

anita wrote:Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Anita, all rights, to free rent, free health care, free food stamps, free transportation, free heat, free electricity, free cell phone, free attorney, free cloths, free everything and guess who’s paying for it.

Green card holders can get their free chit. The language on the card “lawful permanent resident” ain’t so. They are term cards of 3 yr considered temporary & easier to deport. And 10 yr, which gets renewed.

Refugee status, granted by our State Department, yes, you qualify for “assistance”.

Blondie, LAWFUL permanent resident don’t matter, they are refugees/illegals, they get everything free, on our dime or my penney. Try and deney a refugee/illegal anything and see what happens. In the great liberal state of California, they even get a free drivers license and can drink and kill somebody, it’s already happened in that state and many others, because it’s their right.

I will say this, if some refugee/illegal would happen to seriously injury/kill one of my kids/grandkids, I will spend the rest of my life in prison (on your dime), at least I’ll get free health care, 3 hots and a cot, free electricity, free heat, free so on and so on.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 Blondie 0
rickdun wrote:

anita wrote:Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Anita, all rights, to free rent, free health care, free food stamps, free transportation, free heat, free electricity, free cell phone, free attorney, free cloths, free everything and guess who’s paying for it.

Green card holders can get their free chit. The language on the card “lawful permanent resident” ain’t so. They are term cards of 3 yr considered temporary & easier to deport. And 10 yr, which gets renewed.

Refugee status, granted by our State Department, yes, you qualify for “assistance”.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 kenjabroni 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

kenjabroni wrote:
Oh how I wish they had Meijer down here in Texas…….

I got a coleman cook stove at the auction today for 10 bucks. Missed out on a few of the coleman lamps. People were going nuts over those, but didnt even look twice at the stove. I also got a percolator that can be used on a cooktop, grill or fire. Two nice things to add. Now time to go get some coleman fuel.

in regard to stove/lantern fuel … if you have anything like the Amish around – off grid people by the bushel basket – see if you can find refined naptha sold in bulk by a fuel distributor or maybe a local gas station – not the Sunnyside crap sold in the paint department – it’ll be less than half $$$$ of Coleman ….

also for the longer SHTF possibilities – vehicle fuel injector cleaner mixed into regular lead-free gas will extend the life of the Coleman generator part … a few bottles go a long way …. you should have a few replacement generators in the spare parts kit – a definite problem part …

Thanks for the info on this Illini. I really didnt know much about it but have done some research figuring out what you were talking about. If I was in Indiana still Id probably be able to find that stuff in bulk because we werent too far from amish country. Im not sure I will have much luck with it here in TX……I will keep my eyes open. Nice to have alternatives that could save money for sure. Thanks again

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 kenjabroni 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ken, I’m sitting on 25, maybe 30 gallons of Coleman white gas right now. every time i went to by sporting goods store i would stop and use a hacked 30% off coupon for a gallon. That stuff has a shelf life longer then I do :D

You should send me some…….You know so I can sample it……make sure it works as intended :rofl:

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THE RECENT STORM

January 29, 2017 rj5156 0
peekachoo wrote:
It is endless what can be done with propane. A propne company was trading out old tanks and selling new tanks and selling me the old ones for $50 each. I made grain silos,water tanks, goat sheds, BB pits, feed bunks, air tanks, and even rebuilt some for propane tanks..We were driving out in Utah and ran out of gas in our 1979 Bronco. We had propane tanks on our pop up camper on the back. I converted the Bronco to propane and we drove 50 miles to the next gas station. Generators and pumps can be converted to propane for less than $20. We try to keep 2 years worth of propane on hand at all times.

Peekachoo you could do an entire thread on each of those uses! The propane conversion – WOW – THAT’s recourceful!

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Brand new to this forum

January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0

I stand corrected…. I was looking at the monthly rainfall chart not the annual for my region. Monthly precip is less than 1″ but annual is about 9.5″, so the water catchment system will definitely help! For anyone curious, here is the annual chart for the Moab region: Moab weather averages

Annual high temperature:71.7°F
Annual low temperature:42°F
Average temperature:56.85°F
Average annual precipitation – rainfall:9.49 inch
Days per year with precipitation – rainfall:-
Annual hours of sunshine:-
Av. annual snowfall:6 inch
Moab Climate Graph – Utah Climate Chart

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Brand new to this forum

January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0
FarminAndy57 wrote:
Wecome Dave,
Im new here too. Have been getting prepared since the 90’s and am just venturing into the solar battery terrain – the mention of the tesla powerwall caught my attention in your post. anyone know anybody who has purchased one?? what made you decide to go use that as part of your set up?

have had solar for a while but it needs dte to run and were thinking about going off-grid completely.

thanks everyone,

Andy G (rural Mich.)

Hey Andy! Thanks for your post. I’m originally from MI myself (Grand Rapids)but moved to Utah 5 years ago where there is plenty of sunshine, but apparently not enough water. I chose the Moab region of south-eastern Utah for my new “latter-day”homestead for the sunshine and natural beauty, but am running into the water scarcity problem. I would love to talk to you about the Tesla Powerwall system and please PM or email me anytime. I have chosen this system primarily because of its ease of use. I like the idea that it will charge and save enough power to run a moderate-sized home (including some luxuries) for an entire day. For those who may be reading and are interested in this system: I have researched this subject for several months and am taking the liberty here of summarizing a ton of information I have read… The fact that it is a self-contained, all-in-one system, is a huge selling point as well. They make everything you need for this power system, from the solar panels themselves , to the adapters and converters to THE AC power your house/building will ask for, to the very batteries that will hold said charge from the Sun until you are ready to use it. With the Tesla Powerwall power system there is no need to piece together components from here and there to make a complete system. From what I’ve read, everything is available directly from Tesla, and they are even happy to help you configure your own custom system. The only caveat, I have with this system,
(which should demonstrate that I am not a Tesla salesman…in case anyone wondered, lol) is that this system is somewhat pricey, possibly even to the point of being cost-prohibitive to some, with a price-tag of around 5,000 for the small moderate house, (think 2-bedroom, 1-bath) in my description.
For me, it’s well worth that price for a system that I can hook up, plug it in and forget it… as long as the sun shines I’ll have power day AND night, (unlike some solar systems). I plan to have a separate powerwall system on each of my main buildings, Primary residence, Armory, Cafeteria,Barracks, and another to run the perimeter lights and guard towers. So, I’ve calculated about 5k per each of these buildings for reliable power. I only wish water was this easy! We will have a water catchment system but the problem is that it doesn’t rain much in this region, (our friends here in AZ will agree)….less than 1″ per year. Thus the lack of groundwater for a well as well.

If there is ANYONE here who is familiar with this type of arrid, high-desert, red-rock terrain, and knows of a water solution that may work for a small family compound such as what I plan to build, I’d LOVE to hear it!
My ideas now revolve around trying to buy property near a creek or river that I can possibly tap into legally.I may have to just hoard and store as much water as possible, but then there is the rationing of said water, so that’s a pain.If I know my family and friends, that water is gonna go fast! I need a re-supply plan.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 IceFire 0

Got another garden beds framed up today. Still have to till and manure them, once I can get to my tiller, that is. Right now, stuff from the other greenhouse that got blown away/destroyed by the wind is blocking my access. Need to get the other greenhouse frame moved over, anchored down, and start getting it roofed and put together and things moved back in.

Still need to get wood to get the last 7 beds framed…5 in the current row, and 2 next to where the greenhouse will be.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 anita 0
ReadyMom wrote:
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The judge’s temporary stay bans the U.S. from deporting people from nations subject to Trump’s travel ban, saying travelers who were detained had a strong argument their rights had been violated.—-snip–

Just curious, what rights do non-citizens have in the US?

Also, really glad that jeh johnson is no longer on the case!

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Brand new to this forum

January 29, 2017 DaveInUtah 0

“Chickens aren’t difficult at all. Personally, I prefer the dual-purpose (both meat and eggs) heritage breed chickens, as they tend to be a bit hardier, although not “optimized” for producing one or the other. Breeds that are “optimized” for egg-laying are egg-laying machines, but usually not very meaty, while the Cornish cross chickens are optimized for meat production; however, they need to be butchered at 6-8 weeks old (believe me, at that age they are HUGE) or they will die of heart attacks, as their hearts and blood vessels can’t keep up with their growth rate. Do some research. I would suggest the “Storey’s Guide to Raising Chickens”. They also have guides to raising beef cattle, milk cows, pigs, sheep, dairy goats, meat goats, bees, rabbits, horses, etc. The Storey’s guides cover EVERYTHING: different breeds, housing (including different types of housing and how to build it), feed requirements, veterinary care, etc. Even sections on butchering.”

Thank you IceFire, I will find those guides! I appreciate the info!

Also, thanks to everyone who replied and welcomed me. It’s great to be in this community! Hey, not only is a great source for information, but it helps me sound less crazy when I talk to people about my plans and what I expect to happen in the near future…(saying that I am in a network of preppers who have the same mind-set) or I could just point to my shirt that says, “Oh, I’m sorry! Is my crazy showing?”

Thanks again everyone, and I hope to have a great update soon. I’m still looking for the right piece of land in my chosen region, (water is the main problem).

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 ReadyMom 0

Homeland Security: We Will Continue To Enforce Trump’s Travel Ban

January 29, 2017 By
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/homel … travel-ban

Despite a court order, the Department of Homeland Security said they plan to follow President Trump’s executive order to the letter.

In a statement released early Sunday morning, the agency said they plan on continuing to “enforce all of the president’s executive orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people.”

The court order, they say, will not affect the overall implementation of the executive order and the court order, issued late Saturday night by a federal judge, only affected a small number of travelers who were inconvenienced by security procedures upon their return, Fox News reports.

“The president’s executive orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety,” the statement said.

The judge’s temporary stay bans the U.S. from deporting people from nations subject to Trump’s travel ban, saying travelers who were detained had a strong argument their rights had been violated.

      “Stephen Miller, a senior adviser to the White House, said, “Nothing in the Brooklyn judge’s order in anyway impedes or prevents the implementation of the president’s executive order which remains in full, complete and total effect.”

Trump’s travel ban sparked protests around the country at several international airports. Demonstrators ranged from a few dozen people to thousands.

Homeland Security said the order affects a small amount of people traveling internationally.

The DHS said the order was the “first step towards reestablishing control over America’s borders and national security.”

      “The DHS said in the statement that they “will faithfully execute the immigration laws, and we will treat all of those we encounter humanely and with professionalism.” They also added that they plan to ensure the safety of the American people by making sure those entering the U.S. pose no threat.”

President Trump has said his sweeping executive order as a necessary step to stop “radical Islamic terrorists” from coming to the U.S. It included a 90-day ban on travel to the U.S. by citizens of Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen and a 120-day suspension of the U.S. refugee program.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 RayMac1963 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
It is a given that an attack will be launched against the US now that Trump is in office.
Reb

Sadly, I think you’re right. We a lot of tinkled off enemies that have an ax to grind, and now have something to prove. They will take it as a challenge. We’re talking too much. I mean, Ok so we are now going to reopen some black sites and do interrogations ourselves (instead of outsourcing it). Its not like it wasn’t being done anyway, and its not like it HAD to be on the front page. But since it was, it will motivate and energize both enemies, and protester.

Statistics: Posted by RayMac1963 — Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:12 pm


Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

January 29, 2017 BK in KC 0
oldasrocks wrote:
The muzzies held off while obozo was president as so not to embarrass him.

Really?

Little Rock, Arkansas, June 1, 2009. Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad shot and murdered one soldier, Army Pvt. William Andrew Long, and injured another, Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula, at a military recruiting station in Little Rock. Muhammad reportedly converted to Islam in college and was on the FBI’s radar after being arrested in Yemen–a hotbed of radical Islamic terrorism–for using a Somali passport, even though he was a U.S. citizen. In a note to an Arkansas judge, Muhammad claimed to be a member of al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, the terror group’s Yemen chapter.

Fort Hood, Texas, November 5, 2009. Major Nidal Malik Hasan shot up a military base in Fort Hood and murdered 14 people. Hasan was in contact with al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack and shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he fired upon the soldiers on the Fort Hood base. After being sentenced to death, Hasan requested to join ISIS while on death row. It took six years for Obama to acknowledge the shooting as a terror attack instead of “workplace violence.”

Boston, Massachusetts, April 15, 2013. Tamerlan and Dhozkar Tsarnaev set off two bombs at the 2013 Boston marathon, killing three and injuring over 260 people. The Tsarnaev brothers later shot and murdered Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Sean Collier. The Tsarnaev brothers were self-radicalized through online jihadist propaganda and through a mosque with ties to al-Qaeda.

Moore, Oklahoma, September 24, 2014. Alton Nolen beheaded a woman, Colleen Huff, at a Vaughan Foods plant and stabbed and injured another person. While Nolen’s motives are unclear, he appears to have been another radicalized Muslim who was obsessed with beheadings.

Queens, New York, October 23, 2014. Zale Thompson, another self-radicalized Muslim, injured two police officers with a hatchet before being shot dead by other cops. Thompson reportedly indoctrinated himself with ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Shabab–a Somali jihadist terror group–websites and was a lone wolf attacker.

Brooklyn, New York, December 20, 2014. Ismaayil Brinsley shot and murdered two police officers execution-style and his Facebook page featured jihadist postings and had ties to a terror-linked mosque.

Garland, Texas, May 3, 2015. Two gunmen shot up the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, where a Mohammed cartoon contest was taking place, and were killed by a police officer. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack.

Chattanooga, Tennessee, July 16, 2015. Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez shot and killed four Marines and a sailor at a military base in Chattanooga and was believed to have been inspired by ISIS.

San Bernardino, California, December 14, 2015. Two radical Islamists, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, shot and murdered 14 people and injured 22 others at an office holiday party.

Orlando, Florida, June 12, 2016. Omar Mateen, 29, opened fire at a gay nightclub, killing 49 and injuring 53. The FBI investigated Mateen twice before his rampage, but did not take any substantive action. Officials believe Mateen was self-radicalized but he pledged fealty to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi before his death. “The real muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the west,” Mateen posted on his Facebook page after committing his heinous act at Pulse nightclub. “I pledge my alliance to (ISIS leader) abu bakr al Baghdadi..may Allah accept me,” he wrote.

St. Cloud, Minnesota, September 17, 2016. Dahir Ahmed Adan, a 20-year-old Somali refugee, began hacking at people with a steak knife at a Minnesota mall, injuring nine people before he was shot dead by off-duty police officer Jason Falconer. The FBI said numerous witnesses heard Adan yelling “Allahu akbar!” and “Islam! Islam!” during the rampage. He also asked potential victims if they were Muslims before inflicting wounds in their heads, necks, and chests. The FBI believe he had recently become self-radicalized. (As the Daily Wire highlighted, the Minneapolis Star Tribune attempted to blame “anti-Muslim tensions” for his murderous actions.)

New York City/New Jersey, September 17, 2016. Ahmad Khan Rahami, a 28-year-old naturalized citizen from Afghanistan, set off multiple bombs in New York and New Jersey. In Chelsea, his bomb resulted in the injury of over 30 people. Rahami wrote in his journal that he was connected to “terrorist leaders,” and appears to have been heavily influenced by Sheikh Anwar, Anwar al-Awlaki, Nidal Hassan, and Osama bin Laden. “I pray to the beautiful wise ALLAH, [d]o not take JIHAD away from me,” Rahami wrote. “You [USA Government] continue your [unintelligible] slaught[er]” against the holy warriors, “be it Afghanistan, Iraq, Sham [Syria], Palestine … “

Columbus, Ohio, November 28, 2016. Abdul Razak Ali Artan, an ISIS-inspired 20-year-old Somali refugee who had been granted permanent legal residence in 2014 after living in Pakistan for 7 years, attempted to run over his fellow Ohio State students on campus. After his car was stopped by a barrier, he got out of the vehicle and began hacking at people with a butcher knife before being shot dead by a campus police officer. He injured 11 people, one critically. ISIS took credit for the attack, describing Artan as their “soldier.” Just three minutes before his rampage, Artan posted a warning to America on Facebook that the “lone wolf attacks” will continue until America “give[s] peace to the Muslims.” He also praised deceased al-Qaeda cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki as a “hero.”

oldasrocks wrote:
The left will immediately blame Trump if something happens.

Exactly right. PatrioticStabilist was on an earlier thread holding Trump responsible for North Korea’s ICBM nuke program before he had even been sworn in. Expect Trump to be blamed for every Obama failure going forward.

Statistics: Posted by BK in KC — Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:33 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THE RECENT STORM

January 29, 2017 peekachoo 0

It is endless what can be done with propane. A propne company was trading out old tanks and selling new tanks and selling me the old ones for $50 each. I made grain silos,water tanks, goat sheds, BB pits, feed bunks, air tanks, and even rebuilt some for propane tanks..We were driving out in Utah and ran out of gas in our 1979 Bronco. We had propane tanks on our pop up camper on the back. I converted the Bronco to propane and we drove 50 miles to the next gas station. Generators and pumps can be converted to propane for less than $20. We try to keep 2 years worth of propane on hand at all times.

Statistics: Posted by peekachoo — Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:17 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Not concerned about Russian intrusion?

January 29, 2017 -ANACONDA- 0

Hitler’s Germany vs Putin’s Russia: the comparison of two Nazi countries. VIDEO

The video draws parallels between the social life in Germany of 1930’s and Russia in 2010’s and shows the striking similarity between the Hitler’s Nazi Germany right before the Second World War and the present-day Putin’s Russia.
It compares the social life in Germany of 1930’s and Russia in 2010’s, and tries to analyse the factors that turn people into a herd of fascists with recent illusive achievements who start to believe in their own superiority.
This video is a reminder of how an uncontrollable power of one sick man supported by millions of brainwashed masses can lead to a big disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOvoBKIqSPA

Statistics: Posted by -ANACONDA- — Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:03 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 29, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
kenjabroni wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:

Cin wrote:Belvita cookies

My wife is addicted to these things. She found them on sale tonight at Meijer and bought 10 boxes.

Oh how I wish they had Meijer down here in Texas…….

I got a coleman cook stove at the auction today for 10 bucks. Missed out on a few of the coleman lamps. People were going nuts over those, but didnt even look twice at the stove. I also got a percolator that can be used on a cooktop, grill or fire. Two nice things to add. Now time to go get some coleman fuel.

in regard to stove/lantern fuel … if you have anything like the Amish around – off grid people by the bushel basket – see if you can find refined naptha sold in bulk by a fuel distributor or maybe a local gas station – not the Sunnyside crap sold in the paint department – it’ll be less than half $$$$ of Coleman ….

also for the longer SHTF possibilities – vehicle fuel injector cleaner mixed into regular lead-free gas will extend the life of the Coleman generator part … a few bottles go a long way …. you should have a few replacement generators in the spare parts kit – a definite problem part …

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:55 am