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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Saying no to unprepared families

February 9, 2017 BK in KC 0
apache235 wrote:
If we get invaded by the Russians or Chinese all bets are off but I wouldn’t give them good odds as long as the US military was still in existence. The South Africa situation is just the opposite of here. 12% of the population is not going to run roughshod over the rest of us, especially out in the country where they might just stand out a bit. Their domain will be the cities. Home invasions are on the rise, but when resisted, the bad guys tend to lose – not all the time but for the most part they aren’t up for a firefight. I would think that folks in the country are more likely to stick together AND they have the knowledge necessary to survive. City dwellers and snowflakes, not so much. Stay in the city if you want to, it may just work out fine. Being in the midst of tens of thousands to millions of starving people is not my idea of a picnic however.

You clearly haven’t considered what happens in an economic collapse. The author of the first article lived through one, so I’ll take his advice over yours thanks. And you have exactly zero idea what my prepping situation is or BOL’s I may have prepped.

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Saying no to unprepared families

February 9, 2017 apache235 0

If we get invaded by the Russians or Chinese all bets are off but I wouldn’t give them good odds as long as the US military was still in existence. The South Africa situation is just the opposite of here. 12% of the population is not going to run roughshod over the rest of us, especially out in the country where they might just stand out a bit. Their domain will be the cities. Home invasions are on the rise, but when resisted, the bad guys tend to lose – not all the time but for the most part they aren’t up for a firefight. I would think that folks in the country are more likely to stick together AND they have the knowledge necessary to survive. City dwellers and snowflakes, not so much. Stay in the city if you want to, it may just work out fine. Being in the midst of tens of thousands to millions of starving people is not my idea of a picnic however.

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Check In Here Connecticut Preppers • Re: EMP scenerio in CT

February 9, 2017 tidewaterva 0

From my knowledge of this subject, all US nuclear plants use water cooled reactors which makes them inherently more safe compared to some reactors like Chernobyl which used lead radiation absorbing material which did not provide as much safety margin against a runaway reactor. It is my understanding that US nuclear plants are required to have diesel powered coolant pumps which have adequate diesel fuel storage to allow for an orderly reactor shutdown process. However, if I remember correctly, Fukashima was a water cooled plant but the earthquake was powerful enough to disable the backup coolant pumps and piping. According to energy conversion texts that I have studied, US nuclear plants are all inherently unstable, that is to say that if the control mechanisms and coolant flow fail, it is meltdown time. That is an unlikely event, with Fukashima the only full scale meltdown of a water cooled utility reactor that I know of. I just read an article today which says that radiation levels at Fukashima are still extremely high. If someone on the forum is a nuke engineer or technician they can correct me or provide further explanation. I live within 50 miles of a nuclear utility plant, but don’t lose any sleep over it.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 9, 2017 IceFire 0

Got 20 strawberry crowns planted today. Need to get another 10 tomorrow, when I get additional post spikes for our stable project (4 stalls–2 12×12 stalls on each side of a 6-ft wide aisle. Well, actually, 3 stalls and a feed/hay/tack room.)

Also got another 8 bags of cedar shavings for the garden walkways (still need to get a LOT more, but a limited by how many I can get in the back of the car.)

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Plains • Re: I’m surprised

February 9, 2017 bacpacker1513 0

I have a couple of trees myself. They are young, but I hope to get fruit in the next year or two. My uncle had one next to his driveway, when we came in with a load of hay I was always picking me a couple to eat on while heading to the barn. Good stuff.

What area of the country are you in? I’m wondering what the growing area for Paw-Paws is.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New Members, Welcome to our forum!

February 8, 2017 Clare 0

HI there! I’ve been prepping for a couple years now and looking or like minded people who want to be more self-reliant and independent, but kinda seems that we Minnesnowtains (lol) are a bit shy or something. Anyhow, looking forward to be an active part in this community!
Does anyone know of any prepper rallies or conventions here this year???

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Check In Here Connecticut Preppers • EMP scenerio in CT

February 8, 2017 Prepared82 0

I was wondering if anyone in the CT area has given any serious consideration to the possibility of a grid down scenerio secondary to an emp/solar flare. My largest concern of this situation would not be not having electricity, possibly a running car, etc. I’m more concerned about what would happen to the number of nuclear power plants in CT and the surrounding area. without electricity the cooling mechanism used to keep these reactors from melting down would be non functional creating a number of nuclear meltdowns all along the eastern coast. Approximately 75% of the state of CT is within a 50 mile radius of an active nuclear power plant. My fear is that all the prepping in the world is not going to protect you from the nuclear fallout and nuclear pollution this would cause. I have thought about possibly looking into a secondary location in northern VT NH or Maine that would be out of these zones. Has anyone given this scenerio any thought? Would love to hear some feedback. Thanks guys!

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Plains • I’m surprised

February 8, 2017 PREPPEDVET 0

That no one on this forum has brought up the use of paw paw trees. I recently bought about 15 acres that is FULL of these trees. For those that aren’t familiar with these trees, they are in under growth tree that produces banana like fruit but do so with a much higher nutrient content including Vitamin C.

https://www.starkbros.com/growing-guide … ut-pawpaws

The reason i bring this up is because we are approaching spring time and it’s the best time to transplant these trees.

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Check In Here Kansas Preppers • Re: Topeka Area Prepper

February 8, 2017 walking_to_freedom 0

Hello:
I work in mental health and have been interested in prepping for a decade or so. I am a pretty good marksman with a basic knowledge base and experience in gunsmithing. My bachelor’s degree had a minor in criminal justice and a major in psychology. At one point I had intended on becoming a SWAT team negotiator. I am looking to get connected and involved with a local group of like-minded folks who are good natured and humanity loving but willing to be open-minded to emergency preparedness which may include scenarios with unpleasant potential dynamics. Best wishes all

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Northeast • Re: Ramps, aka Wild Leeks

February 8, 2017 anita 0

I’m not sure if ramps are the same as ramsons, or wild garlic, but perhaps similar? I was able to get seed for ransoms from Bakers Creek. They were tough to germinate, although I did grow a few. Have them planted in a shady portion of my garden.

In looking through the Bakers Creek Seeds reviews on Ransoms, someone said they are the same as ramps, so I don’t know. Everyone seemed to agree they are tough to germinate from seed.

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Suggestions • Re: Suggestion.. Bartering?

February 8, 2017 KazKaz 0

Sorry for the extraneous post here, by using the search option, I did not realize there was already an entire section listed for this topic.
My mistake.
Please feel free to delete my post.

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Northeast • Re: Ramps, aka Wild Leeks

February 8, 2017 KazKaz 0

Although this is a VERY old post, I just noticed it.
Something worthy of addition here is that leeks very often share the exact same habitat as wild American Ginseng. Typically old growth hardwood canopy, moist soil, and a tendency to be on North facing slopes.
If you happen to be foraging in the fall (only legal time for collection) kill 2 birds with one stone and look for both species.
Wild ginseng can be sold to herb dealers for amounts ranging from $200-1000 per pound depending on moisture content and quality (age).
An excellent way to make some easy money relaxing on the road less travelled.
There’s gold in them thar hills!

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

February 8, 2017 rj5156 0

Can’t believe I am STILL sick. Finally thought to ask Brian to pick up some more fresh ginger. We’d run out and I’ve just been so tired and doing things to keep my mind off how bad I feel. It is hardest to remember to take care of ourselves and feel like doing it when we most need to. Fresh grated ginger brewed into a tea has kicked everything I’ve come down with since I started using it.

Shame on me. I am getting about what I deserve for neglecting the battle too. It always gets worse before it gets better, as the bad guys start dieing off and spewing toxins. Felt really wretched for some time after I got started back on the tea yesterday, but I’m feeling quite a bit better already today and my fever is down under 100.

Life goes on no matter how we feel. Laundry dishes and trash, I’ve managed to keep up at least fairly well with everything but the laundry. I am into day two with it now and likely have two more days of it. Brian’s got 10 sets of new work clothes, his pants weigh 5 pounds a pair and I think the shirts go 3 pounds. Two pair of pants is a load!

They need soaked, pre-washed, and run through a full cycle. A second rinse does help too but I’m so far behind I’m skipping that. Could be worse. I could have had to drag out and work while I felt dreadful. So thankful I haven’t had to do that in a while. Doing tidy-up stuff. Cleaning dog hair out from under stuff, pickup around the house, all the things that haven’t been getting done while I’ve been down.

I knew when I started using a flash drive for backup that it was going to take me a while to form new habits about how I save stuff. Using two different computers has caused some problems for me too, keeping two different documents with Dad’s work all in sync on two computers AND a flash drive. Been working on that and I’ve got it all tidied up. Think I might just use the notebook for the project and eliminate one complication.

I’ve got some REALLY cool toys that I haven’t had a chance to play with and keep hoping I’ll feel well enough to drag them out. Picked up quite a bit of material to make scrubbies from the nylon netting and tulle, on sale at JoAnn’s fabric and I have the mat and rotary cutter to make it easy to cut it in strips.

Also got a very small sewing machine on sale at Walmart I want to try out. I think about setting something up and go sweep the floor and then I sit down and hold my head a while. Then I work on typing stuff up on one of my projects since it’s pretty easy, and find I’m ready for a nap. Sigh.

Our home is really small. That means set up for any project. I like to work on the table facing the North window but I’m closing in on vacuum sealing dry goods and the machine is right in the middle of the table, where I need it – and I can’t MOVE it myself. I can work on the kitchen table of course, but then I need to clear it off in time for our evening meal and it’s just been more than I care to start knowing how fast I’m tiring out.

I have decided that it makes a fine science experiment. I’ve proven conclusively to my own satisfaction that fresh ginger root does cure colds and flu. It’s quick and easy, and readily available. We hope to try growing some this year. Someplace in Kentucky there is a farm having good success with it. Needs a long growing season, might mean using something to cover it. Got a couple ideas for that.

Meanwhile, my to-do list is growing daily and I’m just reminding myself that none of it is life-threatening. It will certainly be there when I feel well enough to get back to it. I’m taking it pretty well. Glad I’ve had things to keep my mind occupied. I generally keep on pushing and overdo it so having a project that does NOT involve physical work helps a lot.

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Economic Disasters • Re: Interesting article on the next few years!

February 8, 2017 rj5156 0

Good points all around on assets! I don’t ever plan on moving around but life is uncertain. I have always chosen to invest my excess money in tools, better tools, cheap tools at flea markets, and extra tools! I do stock non-perishable foods as long ahead as they will keep.

Along the way I have also watched ebay over many years, for semi-precious gemstones and whenever I could win some for a ridiculously low amount – I did. They are small, extremely portable, easy to hide. Not something most folks stockpile either.

Everybody thinks of gold and silver, so I never could get much of those for pennies on the dollar like I have the gemstones. Since I have literally almost nothing in them, and they are soooooo pretty, it seemed like a fine idea to me.

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Suggestions • Suggestion.. Bartering?

February 8, 2017 KazKaz 0

I used the search box to see if there might be a thread within the forum that dealt strictly with bartering prior to SHTF.
I’m sure there are many of us that have hobbies, occupational attributes, perhaps even geographic advantages that may be useful to others.

Personally, I have an interest in utilizing the services of somebody who has the required time necessary to selectively hit the neighborhood grocery store once a week in my place to stock up on deals too good to ignore?
I have no problem with the idea of paying a 10% surcharge for the favor of having a dedicated shopping assistant that prides themself on their ability to get a great deal for the money? The more time and money I save this way, the more I can invest elsewhere.

Maybe we have members who work in metal fabrication shops who can bend some aluminum Faraday box shells and supplement their stockpiles with bartering that service?
Maybe we have some woodworkers who can fabricate shelving units specially designed at the appropriate dimensions for can storage with nifty hook attachments that slide over the top of a interior standard door?
Maybe we have members that love canning vegetables? I’m quite sure we have plenty of people around that have nightmares even thinking about it.
As for me? I believe my occupation has unlimited potential to help many. I drive a specialized truck pretty much non-stop around the eastern half of the country and typically stay south of interstate 80 and north of Interstate 10.
The opportunity exists for me to transport anything in that area anytime at no cost to you. The only catch is that it may take an extra week before I am near the pickup or delivery area?

Were you wondering why I can’t always make it to the right store at the right time?

The options here are limited only by our imaginations.
Rumor has it, I hear prepper types can conjure up some rather quirky thoughts.. lol!
What’s your special purpose?
(Steve Martin reference.. don’t laugh!)

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Water • Re: storing water 2 liter bottles

February 8, 2017 BigOrange75 0

Ran across this old thread and want to add some input. I buy gallon jugs of distilled water to use in my CPAP machine and reuse them as water jugs. With these I don’t have to worry because they haven’t had milk, juice, or whatever in them. I keep a few in the freezer, perfect to bust up when making home made ice cream, and did store some on a shelf. Had a couple leak on the shelf so I started using milk crates and have had no more leakers. I only had a few crates and got to checking pricing on new ones and the cost wasn’t worth it to me. Seems like everybody has a few but they are hard to find on the cheap, yard sales and flea markets but not for sale. I check the freebies on craigslist often and lucked into 10 of them recently from a college student moving out of an apartment for free. Probably a one time find. Also as I have heard before store them with jug handles to the middle to keep more support on the sides because they are so thin.

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Saying no to unprepared families

February 8, 2017 BK in KC 0

I think too many rural people have an unrealistic sense of security. Below is a great article by Ferfal, an author and survivor of the Argentina collapse.

Real world SHTF: The Countryside is more Dangerous

One of the most commonly accepted misconceptions in the survival and preparedness community is that “once SHTF”, you “gotta get out of Dodge!”
It seems that not many people ask why and just accept this as an unquestionable fact, but those that do usually get a reply about cities being where most people are and therefore where problems will be worse. The logic here would be that more people=more problems. While this may be the case in some specific scenarios, those of us that have dedicated years of our lives to seriously study real disasters tend to have a different opinion, and the answer is: Its not that simple.

The best location to ride out a disaster, large or small, is directly linked to the type of disaster you are facing. In the case of war, widespread terrorism or uprisings, running to the countryside is probably the last thing you want to do.

In the case of an invading force moving across a country, both cities and more rural areas would be equally at risk. Ground troops moving forward will go through all buildings looking for enemies, scouts and spies and no survival retreat with armed occupants will present much of problem to anyone with mortar fire at their disposal. Anything that falls within the enemy occupation territory is at risk.

Different historic incidents such as the Bosnian war, involving an invading, foreign force, or the violence in South Africa, in this case a local threat, targeting farmers after the African National Congress rose to power, have shown us that the countryside isn’t always an idyllic safe place to be in when everything goes to hell.

Also of note is the plight of rural farmers in South Africa.

South African farmers fearing for their lives

Since the attack on Attie Potgieter and his family, the simple stone farmhouse where they lived has stood empty and crumbling, with nobody wanting to live in the home where one of South Africa’s most disturbingly brutal crimes took place.

Mr Potgieter, a farm caretaker, was stabbed and hacked 151 times with a garden fork, a knife and a machete near Lindley in the Free State – the agricultural heart of the country.

His wife, Wilna, and two-year-old daughter, Willemien, were both made to watch him die, before being shot in the head, execution style. All for pocket money, and possessions of relatively little value – a too-common story in South Africa’s rural areas, where mostly white Afrikaner farmers feel they are being targeted in gratuitously violent attacks on their remote farms and smallholdings. They accuse police and government of failing to make these crimes a priority. And as the horrifying murders continue, they are growing increasingly angry.

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The murder last weekend of British engineer Chris Preece, 54, who was born in Southgate in north London and found his dream on a piece of rolling farmland bordering Lesotho’s Maluti mountains, is the most recent farm killing to make headlines.

Mr Preece spent his weekdays working in Johannesburg before retreating to his beloved farm near the town of Ficksburg, where he and wife Felicity dreamed of starting a nature reserve to save raptor birds and cheetahs.

He was stabbed and hacked to death by men who stole just £210 and a mobile phone. Felicity was left severely traumatised with a skull fracture, and has not yet been able to talk about the attack from the Bloemfontein hospital in where she is being treated.

And these dangers aren’t just confined to so-called “third world” countries.

Home invasions hit rural Nevada County

Authorities are searching for at least three armed and dangerous males allegedly responsible for a series of home invasions and armed robberies that resulted in exchanges of gunfire, a stolen vehicle, and a dog that was shot during two incidents Friday and Saturday morning.

According to police logs, the first incident occurred Friday morning at 6:30 a.m. on the 17000 block of Black Forest Road in Penn Valley where at least three men armed with handguns conducted a home invasion, handcuffed the occupants and held them at gunpoint before stealing their vehicle and fleeing the scene.

The assailants were asking where the guns of the victims were located though it is unknown whether or not they left with any.

The stolen vehicle was later recovered unoccupied in the Pleasant Valley/Indian Springs area and was returned to the owner.

The suspects were described as wearing black ops masks, dark clothing, and black gloves.

The second incident occurred Saturday morning at 12:27 a.m. on the 18000 block of Backwoods Road east of North San Juan, and also involved three males, all seen wearing ski masks and black hoodies.

Two were identified as white males and two had black pistols, and upon arriving to the victim’s property, ordered an adult son to the ground where his hands were zip tied.

The suspects fired two shots first and shot the victim’s dog which alerted the owner of the property, who was armed, and proceeded to exchange fire with the suspects who left the scene in a newer 2014-2015 black Dodge Ram with a camper shell, logs state.

The suspects had parked their vehicle about 20 feet behind the victim’s vehicles in the driveway and fired their weapons as they backed out the same way they came in.

It is unclear, though, if the two incidents are related.

Be dismissive of these real life examples at your own peril.

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Saying no to unprepared families

February 8, 2017 Gunns 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

apache235 wrote:Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

I don’t sign up to your Mad Max scenario. Most of the violence will happen in the cities. City folk coming to the country to sack it will be dealt with pretty quickly. The City folk would have to be an Army to be effective.

If we are fighting everywhere all the time, its hopeless might as well swallow a bullet.

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Introduce Yourself • Another prepper tiptoes in..

February 8, 2017 KazKaz 0

This is likely to be one of the more unique posts dropped on here, but let’s see where it leads?

I have reached my personal breaking point and have given up on ‘living the lie’.
In the last couple years, with the upheaval of my entire world, my tide has turned. The events leading to awakening ensure that there will be no turning back.
I am no longer a believer in conforming to the script that has been forced on the average American slave who conforms to governmental demands that we must work too hard, solely to buy and consume endless piles of optional stuff we don’t need, only for the sake of competing with people we may, or may not, ever know for a endgame status that enriches the establishment, yet ultimately amounts to absolutely nothing.
I refuse to comply with that role any longer.
Such a fool I was.
It’s my turn to accept that and move forward.
Although I am not much of a doomsday conspiracy theorist counting down the seconds until the plug gets pulled, I refuse to wear a blindfold while drifting in a cloud of blissful ignorance of the probabilities.
So, here I am..
I have been researching ideas and options for the past year, getting my priorities straight, getting finances in order, and developing a strategy.
As individuals, I realize we all have different considerations and variables that influence every decision.
What is the solution?
What is the alternative?
What is the plan?
I recently purchased a plot of wilderness tucked away in the middle of nowhere in what is most often called the Interior Mid-Atlantic region.
My occupation allows me the opportunity to invest, prepare, and stockpile future resources and deliver them to the site randomly once or twice a month.
Currently, there is only a large securely sealed shipping container on site where items remain protected from the environment for future use.
At my current rate of investment, I should have all of the materials needed to build a so-called (zoning friendly) ‘hunting’ cabin on site in the next couple months. My goal is to have a fully enclosed ‘shell’ in place before the weather gets too prohibitive. I intend to customize the Interior to comfortably accommodate an 8-10 person group.
The property was selected based on a compromise of seclusion, accessibility, natural resources readily available, and security.
As construction begins, the storage container will be buried under the cabin foundation with access to be used as an emergency shelter.
This project will perpetually be a work in progress.. an endeavour that never ends.
The end goal is that the shelter will be entirely off grid, remaining fully functional while bridging the instant transition from the end of one era of humanity to the beginning of the next.
My vision is to create a self sustaining defensive retreat.
Within a year from now, I anticipate the grounds will be entirely solar powered with a protected communication system (working on HAM certification now), freshwater collection, ample food stocks supplemented by a rotation of crops with enough surplus to feed the supportive livestock on site and perhaps barter if necessary.
ZERO dependency on corporate America is an important factor to me.
Love my country, hate the government. However, out of pure spite to MSM, I am willing to give the new administration a chance. Sorry. Back to the good stuff..
Prepping.
Although these things sound complicated and costly, crops and selective wood harvesting prior to SHTF will pay well and greatly help with investing in advancing the preparations. Beyond that, with the right team in place, everything takes care of itself.
The ultimate objective is to hold a distinct advantage in the race of completely cutting the cord of dependence as a choice rather than to face the dire consequences of not holding any parachute when this plane we are all on takes a nosedive.
As the moment that changes humanity as we know it approaches, one thing is a certainty.
Those who are proactive will prevail.
Those who are reactive will suffer.
That is a choice that, as individuals, we all must make.
Personally, I believe that unfathomable forces are conspiring to ensure the world – as it now turns – is in jeopardy.
Tomorrow? A few years? A couple decades? How long do we have?
I sincerely hope that day never comes.
At the same time, I no longer believe the deception of it all.. that we are ‘protected’ from harm.
I have no specific threat in mind that consumes my focus. Simultaneously preparing for many possibilities is a worthwhile endeavour. (Financial collapse/martial law/emp -in that order- get my bets)
I am open to the idea of exploring collaborative options with those who have relevant skills to offer yet lack a suitable place to escape the insanity.
Survival is a team sport. Let’s chat?
Thanks for taking the time to get this far!

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General Family Preparedness • Re: LDS food supplies

February 8, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
JC1 wrote:

Mountain mama wrote:

idahobeef wrote:My family is Mormon and has used this stuff for years, sadly much of it you would ONLY want to eat when you were starving. I honestly consider their stuff not edible, but we do have alot of it since its cheap and lasts a long time. Just an honest opinion from someone who’s had to live on it while growing up.

Thanks for that input. That is nice to know!

I have to disagree. I grew up on it too and I use it all the time.

I didn’t understand the comment either … somehow the LDS black & navy beans are poorer quality than from the local food mart ….

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Books • Re: One second after

February 8, 2017 Gunns 0
LetsPrep11 wrote:
Must have been a very short sale! One Year After is now $9.99. Ridiculous price for an e-book! I won’t pay more than $5.99 and that’s only happened once or twice.

Read Alas Babylon after I came back from SE Asia in the early 70’s. It scared me so bad that I’ve kept a well stocked pantry ever since. A year or so ago, kindle offered the book for free or $.99 and I bought. I spent decades trying to remember the name of that book, cause I thought others should read it, and now I’ll never forget it. :lol:

Save your money.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: LDS food supplies

February 8, 2017 Gunns 0
JC1 wrote:

Mountain mama wrote:

idahobeef wrote:My family is Mormon and has used this stuff for years, sadly much of it you would ONLY want to eat when you were starving. I honestly consider their stuff not edible, but we do have alot of it since its cheap and lasts a long time. Just an honest opinion from someone who’s had to live on it while growing up.

Thanks for that input. That is nice to know!

I have to disagree. I grew up on it too and I use it all the time.

Me too. You need to amend it too. Without salt, pepper, honey and other spices nothing tastes good.

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Check In Here Connecticut Preppers • New member

February 8, 2017 Prepared82 0

Hopefully I’m posting in the correct section, I have never been good at navigating forums LOL. I’m relatively new to the whole prepping concept, have done a lot of research but have not actually done too much prepping at this point. I don’t currently live in Connecticut however am planning a move up there in a few months. Hoping to learn as much as possible and meet some knowledgeable people throughout this forum

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Introduce Yourself • New member

February 8, 2017 Prepared82 0

Hopefully I’m posting in the correct location, I’ve never been good navigating these forums. I’m relatively new to the whole prepping concept, done lots of research but have not really started too much of the prepping process. Looking forward to learning a lot here. Should also mention I’m not living in CT just yet but am planning a move up there in a few months.

Statistics: Posted by Prepared82 — Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:56 am