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Guns • Re: Night Vision Distributors

June 5, 2017 handyman777 0

Try “OpticsPlanet”, they seem to have good quality stuff. It all depends on how much you plan to spend…they have the bottom of the barrel stuff (Gen.1)-300.00 plus; up to Good quality-High end for 4000.00-5000.00 and up, for (Gen.4). I’ve shopped around for good quality optics, and they have some of the best prices.
I’m always looking for a reputable place to buy some quality optics at a decent price.

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Guns • Night Vision Distributors

June 5, 2017 longrifle 0

I am looking for a reputable place to buy a piece of night vision equipment. I do not want one of those place places that package up bottom of the line components to look like a piece of military equipment, but some one who sell stuff made from quality parts.

Thank you for any information.

Hank

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 5, 2017 daaswampman 0
Photon Guy wrote:

daaswampman wrote:I would suggest they read their Bible and act accordingly. Swamp

They do. They take verses such as the one that says to turn the other cheek and the one that says to love your enemy and the one that says that he who takes the sword will perish by the sword and they apply those verses and they’re complete pacifists. They don’t like guns and they would not fight back if somebody attacked them or a friend or family member.

I get where your coming from, but as I said: they need to read their Bible. It is much more than a few versus taken out of context from the New Testament or listening to a few Sunday Sermons! I am sure they will not fight back and that is fine. If they had studied and knew their Bible, they would know what to expect and what was expected of them! Swamp

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 5, 2017 Photon Guy 0
daaswampman wrote:
I would suggest they read their Bible and act accordingly. Swamp

They do. They take verses such as the one that says to turn the other cheek and the one that says to love your enemy and the one that says that he who takes the sword will perish by the sword and they apply those verses and they’re complete pacifists. They don’t like guns and they would not fight back if somebody attacked them or a friend or family member.

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North Carolina A.N.T.S. • Re: Forming Colony in Piedmont Area

June 5, 2017 Cadit 0

Up-date to new colony. We now have six member and growing on our Meet-up page on the Meet-ups web site. We are planning to make the ANTS Camping event the 16th of June. Hope to see you there. I you are interested in joining this Colony, please reply to this post.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New Members, Welcome to our forum!

June 5, 2017 LamLak 0

hello I just joined & haven’t figured it all out yet. I am located in Carroll County Ohio & would like to make contact with nearby Preppers. I am an older than most of you at 83 but have several areas to contribute. Navy Vet. farm back ground, electronics tech, small engine mech, chainsaw & 2cycle bike mech, hunting, trapping, fishing, gardening, etc.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: What Do You Expect To Achieve in a GDS

June 4, 2017 daaswampman 0

If it happens and I pray it doesn’t, I believe communities of self reliant people will eventually form – just like communities have developed throughout human history! Groups without religious dogma as its core, will fail – just like they have throughout human history!

All these Prepper Groups will suffer the same fates as the communes of the sixties! Been there and done that one! My greatest concern for the Prepper Groups, they will be heavily armed when the fighting starts!

And contrary to popular belief, most of the fighting was not over tangible things, it was over who was doing who! Too much time together and nobody is getting enough! If you have children, I suggest you watch them. Swamp

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Local A.N.T.S Meetup in NC

June 4, 2017 founderant 0
Cadit wrote:
Heard from my brother and he will be coming also. I think a friend of mine will also, but he hasn’t said yet, so I don’t really know yet. :blink:

Sounds good, fire ant and another member are coming as well.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Local A.N.T.S Meetup in NC

June 4, 2017 founderant 0
Cadit wrote:
Hi Partner; hope all is well with you and yours. I wish to ask something and if you think if its a bad Idea let me know? I also belong to a group called the Carolina Preppers Network. Most meetings have between twenty and forty members attending. Will it be ok to open our camping meet-up to this group and invite anyone who may wish to come for a meet & Greet? Many are new and are hungry for information. just an idea. But; of course I’ll have to run this by the leader of this group for an ok. :)

Everyone is welcome, but the last time I checked all of the campsites were reserved except for two walk ups that they are holding on a first come first serve bases

There is a group camp within walking distance, but I do not know if it is available. They would have to check.

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Meat • Re: Canned beef tastes funny

June 4, 2017 BombpopDrone 0

Hello, I’m new here.

Browning the meat helps so much. A hot outdoor grill is fast. and delicious. The more maillard reaction (not burning, though) the better the taste. Raw pack has a different sort of taste. Almost like…please don’t kill me, I’m new here…a tiny bit of iron blood taste.

Another thing I just learned about weird tastes in canning meats, is to not use the chicken thighs. Save them to cook in another dish.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 daaswampman 0
Photon Guy wrote:

daaswampman wrote:They will, but it will be too late for them! If they hate the restrictive ways of us Jesus Freaks, they are going to Just Love Islam!!! Swamp

The thing is, some of these snowflakes are Jesus Freaks, or at least they claim to be.

I would suggest they read their Bible and act accordingly. Swamp

ReadyMom wrote:
😕 :?:? So is this bothering anyone else: WHY did the terrorists wear FALSE suicide vests? Why go to all that trouble and they are not going to use them? What’s the purpose? (We know they do everything with a purpose). Is it a distraction? What kind of a distraction? What else could be the reason. I’m just finding this SO strange. -k

That is an easy one – a Force Multiplier! You would appear more dangerous than you are, which may delay or deter resistance. Would you tackle and try to restrain someone wearing a suicide vest that may go boom at any second?

It gave them time to do their work before people with guns arrived. It also assured them they would die in the process which was one of their goals! I may not like them, but their tactics are solid. Heard the sheep and slaughter them! Do you see the similarities with these attacks and those that happened in Orlando and San San Bernardino?

All things considered, I am not expecting many ISIS attacks at gun shows! Swamp

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Technicians License

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Don’t know if I said or not, but I did get my General License on first try. And all the other passed their technician exams. Was very proud of their efforts, and it showed. :clap:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Technicians License

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Don’t know if I said or not, but I did get my General License on first try. And all the other passed their technician exams. Was very proud of their efforts, and it showed. :clap:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #3 (JUNE 2017)

June 4, 2017 rickdun 0
Blondie wrote:

farmer_dude48 wrote:The U.S. won’t hit little kim because nobody wants to be responsible for the slaughter that will happen in South Korea

Pffftttt… the US cares about SK only to protect our mfg and mil interests there and the low paid workers who crank out goods to ship to the US. Financed by American Banksters.

Several years ago lil kim was on a rampage not letting NK day workers cross into SK to work in those factories. General Motors had batteries built in SK and quickly realized the interruption to the supply chain.

The Detroit Free Press carried the story of GM moving at least some of that production back to MI.

Blondie, there’s only one of the reason the U.S. will not bomb North Korea and the little fat kid, unless all other options fail and that is there are 230,000 U.S. citizens that are living there and the 10 million South Koreans that live in Seoul, besides the trade/money:

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/world/ … h_korea-0/

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #3 (JUNE 2017)

June 4, 2017 rickdun 0
Blondie wrote:

farmer_dude48 wrote:The U.S. won’t hit little kim because nobody wants to be responsible for the slaughter that will happen in South Korea

Pffftttt… the US cares about SK only to protect our mfg and mil interests there and the low paid workers who crank out goods to ship to the US. Financed by American Banksters.

Several years ago lil kim was on a rampage not letting NK day workers cross into SK to work in those factories. General Motors had batteries built in SK and quickly realized the interruption to the supply chain.

The Detroit Free Press carried the story of GM moving at least some of that production back to MI.

Blondie, there’s only one of the reason the U.S. will not bomb North Korea and the little fat kid, unless all other options fail and that is there are 230,000 U.S. citizens that are living there and the 10 million South Koreans that live in Seoul, besides the trade/money:

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/world/ … h_korea-0/

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A.N.T.S. • Re: What Do You Expect To Achieve in a GDS

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Well Kappydell: I agree with you whole heartedly. I too believe that no one is responsible for you or yours except you. If one fails to prepare, then that family will suffer. I do believe in bartering for needed items. But it has to be a need and not a want. It is this type of thinking that has gotten us and this country in the shape it is. Get this or that and don’t worry, put it on credit.

Take the US as an example, we’re in the toilet on that one. But everyone has the same opportunity and the ability to prepare. One must be careful of who you help during a time of a dysfunctional society and no rule of law. If they can benefit me and mine, then I’ll help where I can, and offer what I can. remember what is taught about storing supplies; first in first out. If I help, they get my oldest supplies.

The main thing is; like the old saying goes, you give a man a fish, he eats for a day, you teach a man to fish and eats for life. If someone comes to me with the poor mouth, they better be ready to work and pay their way. :crazy:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: What Do You Expect To Achieve in a GDS

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Well Kappydell: I agree with you whole heartedly. I too believe that no one is responsible for you or yours except you. If one fails to prepare, then that family will suffer. I do believe in bartering for needed items. But it has to be a need and not a want. It is this type of thinking that has gotten us and this country in the shape it is. Get this or that and don’t worry, put it on credit.

Take the US as an example, we’re in the toilet on that one. But everyone has the same opportunity and the ability to prepare. One must be careful of who you help during a time of a dysfunctional society and no rule of law. If they can benefit me and mine, then I’ll help where I can, and offer what I can. remember what is taught about storing supplies; first in first out. If I help, they get my oldest supplies.

The main thing is; like the old saying goes, you give a man a fish, he eats for a day, you teach a man to fish and eats for life. If someone comes to me with the poor mouth, they better be ready to work and pay their way. :crazy:

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A.N.T.S. • SCCR Colony

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Greetings All: I have created a page on the Meet-ups web site. I have posted our Camping event this month and the up-coming Prepper Camp in Saluda, NC. I hope that you will check out our page, and remember; this is just a start up. We will be having Camp meet-up as well Camping events through out the year; cold, Hot or otherwise. Join with me in expanding and reaching others who are just starting out and need a helping hand in the; how, where, what,and when we should be preparing.

If you have falling back and now occupying the sofa more than you use to, it time to get moving, Trump it’s a fix all for us. We need to stay vigilant and watchful. Get your Comms up if you haven’t yet. Get you Ham license and start practicing now, don’t wait and try after it has started, you will be lost in that attempt. Get you skills up to par, and help others in the group hone theirs. :help:

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DIY and How-To • Re: 10 Acres, a House and a Barn now what?

June 4, 2017 3ADScout 0

Well I can’t believe it has been 2 years since we got the “BOL”. Life is never dull nor does it always go the way you want it. I was hoping to have a lot more done by now but have been dealing with a chronic medical issue that is really slowing me down, that might be a good thing. With that said here is what we have done-

Planted apple trees this spring- took a while since I wanted to see what areas of the property drained good and where in line with prevailing winds.

Planted elber berry trees

Planted lots of blueberry plants.

Planted a few black berry plants near a row already on property.

Had 2 very large trees that were in bad shape taken down. Unfortunately the heavy equipment left me some ruts that I have to deal with. Not even good for firewood.

Remodeled kitchen – new cabinets, new stove- put in propane for stove and ventless heater in basement- stove was electric.

Fixed supporting columns in barn- the wood post was sitting on a piece of cement formed in a five gallon bucket that was just sitting on the dirt/gravel floor. Dug down and filled with cement re-placed rough cut post with a pressure treated post. Debated on not going with pressure treated due to animals but plan to wrap it in metal so they can’t crew it.

Put in shooting range- made with railroad ties and filled with sand. Did some research and looked like sand had a little better stopping power than dirt. Also, with sand it will be easier to sift to extract the lead to re-melt and cast pistol bullets. Will also be environmentally better since I can clean up the lead.

Garden- put up 4 raised beds- 8’Lx4’Wx1’H. Got the wood for two more in March but the weather has not cooperated at all to put them together, fill and plant. Already got truck stuck once moving stuff into barn. Plant led one bed with just asparagus.

Tree trimming- several pines that looked like they were never taken care of. Can see now. (Yeah I know that works both ways).

Made friends with the neighbor! Priceless!!!! Very good source of what contractor, saw mill or service to use, etc. very nice, even shoots ground hogs for me. Gave him a brick of 22. He watches the place too.

Chimney cleaned, repointed and cap put on.

Gutters cleaned- large pines and the gutters were filled with pine needles, probably never cleaned. Also put extended drain pipe on the down spouts to get water further away from foundation/basement.

Basement- took the old cabinets from the kitchen that were still in good shape (real wood!!) and put them in the basement and filled with preps. Put 2 shelving units up in closet for food and ammo storage. Put up another shelving unit for misc. storage. Bought two gun safes. Fixed up basement “game room”.

Garage- insulated, put up 4 hefty shelving units 5’Hx4’Lx2’deep. Filled them with preps. Put up peg board by workbench. Replaced rotting work bench legs.

Doesn’t seem like a lot but only have the weekends most of the time. Plan on spending about two weeks worth of vacation/holiday time there his year.

This summer- will be power washing and white-washing the barn. Plan on fixing up the barn loft for storage for non-heat/cold sensitive preps.

Addition to Home- wife wants second bathroom and bigger master bedroom. Will be hiring someone for that job.

Well- want the water tested again.

Fire pit-plan on putting in a nice fire pit that will also let us cook on it/in it. Everyone likes a camp fire!

Weather station- will be putting up a simple weather station.
Antenna- will look into putting up a CB and scanner antennas. Maybe a 2 meter too.

Plan on actually enjoying the place this year- teach the kids some compass skills, fire starting, etc.

New “Barn/garage” may also be in the works if we can swing it fianacially. If not this year, then next.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #3 (JUNE 2017)

June 4, 2017 Blondie 0
farmer_dude48 wrote:
The U.S. won’t hit little kim because nobody wants to be responsible for the slaughter that will happen in South Korea

Pffftttt… the US cares about SK only to protect our mfg and mil interests there and the low paid workers who crank out goods to ship to the US. Financed by American Banksters.

Several years ago lil kim was on a rampage not letting NK day workers cross into SK to work in those factories. General Motors had batteries built in SK and quickly realized the interruption to the supply chain.

The Detroit Free Press carried the story of GM moving at least some of that production back to MI.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Underground food storage. Who has one?

June 4, 2017 rickdun 0
Cadit wrote:
Since the last post, I talked with a friend up toward the mountains, he just moved up there after building their home. Now; I asked and he said it was alright to say this, he put in an underground bunker, and most people would never find it. He has a structure over the entrance that hides it, he showed me and it is so neat, I would never have thought that a bunker or the entrance was there.

But another thing that really surprised me was the fact that he had a root cellar connecting to the bunker, a twelve by sixteen, if I remember right. The whole layout was so cool. I wish I had a way to put something like that in my back yard, but all my neighbors would see what I was doing, then when a disaster or emergency does hit. they would be knocking on my door. Not Good. 8)

Cadit and ReadyMom, If you have a basement, pick the side that is almost entirely underground. I have a root cellar and it faces north, sun really never hits it, only 18″ of foundation is above ground and the temperature never gets above 50 degrees. My house was built back in the 1920’s and the field stone wall is 20″ thick. Don’t have to dig a hole, just separate your basement, even a 10′ X 10′ area holds a lot of items.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Underground food storage. Who has one?

June 4, 2017 ReadyMom 0

I’d LOVE one, but can’t for two reasons:

(1) Hubby doesn’t even like the prepping that I do IN the house. Imagine if I asked him to let me dig a hole/holes in our yard for outdoor storage! :o
(2) We live on wetlands. I’m picturing waking up one morning and finding anything that I put in the ground now bobbing around in it’s hole, that has filled with water and forced my prep to pop out of the ground! :bored:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:😕 :?:? So is this bothering anyone else: WHY did the terrorists wear FALSE suicide vests? Why go to all that trouble and they are not going to use them? What’s the purpose? (We know they do everything with a purpose). Is it a distraction? What kind of a distraction? What else could be the reason. I’m just finding this SO strange. -k

If you don’t have a real suicide vest, what is the next best thing? A false suicide vest would cause confusion and a stampede. Warriors have been using ruses for thousands of years. Makes sense to me.
Reb

Exactly the same as my first impression….can cause a delayed response to take them down if in populous area at time of engagement.(possibly a dead-men’s trigger)

A “hesitation” so to speak to pull the trigger against them possibly….the good news is it didn’t work at all as far as we know.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Underground food storage. Who has one?

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Since the last post, I talked with a friend up toward the mountains, he just moved up there after building their home. Now; I asked and he said it was alright to say this, he put in an underground bunker, and most people would never find it. He has a structure over the entrance that hides it, he showed me and it is so neat, I would never have thought that a bunker or the entrance was there.

But another thing that really surprised me was the fact that he had a root cellar connecting to the bunker, a twelve by sixteen, if I remember right. The whole layout was so cool. I wish I had a way to put something like that in my back yard, but all my neighbors would see what I was doing, then when a disaster or emergency does hit. they would be knocking on my door. Not Good. 8)

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 Mollypup 0

False vest cause panic………..and a panic induced large mass of human beings can do as much damage as any bomb.

And psychologically speaking…….they’re testing what effect their attacks are having on the population, how high the fear factor is climbing. This influences future plans.

Terrorism is a form of organized bullying…..they use the same tactics. Fear is required for those tactics to work to achieve the desired goal. A bully is basically powerless the moment the victim loses their fear & stands up to them. Doesn’t matter if the victim wins or loses, the bully remains powerless & it effects his “power” over other potential victims.

The moment a society finally says Enough! and begins retaliating in kind or more severely…….the terrorist begin to lose power because the fear factor drops. The more it happens, the more the induced fear level drops until it reaches an insignificant point where it’s in the terrorist best interest to go back & hide under a rock again. You’ll never completely eliminate them, but you can reduce their numbers so severely & have the retaliation be so intense that they stop.

If this were a non religious organization the populace probably would have reached this point of Enough! a very long time ago. Due to the global PC atmosphere…..& the nature of the beast……it complicates weeding them out. Not all Muslims are extremist, not all believe in the Koran literally, so you can’t just go round them all up. Terrorist hide in plain sight in these communities due to this. It offers them protection.

However, as this situation escalates…….it will eventually come to that as the masses will stop caring that “extremest” are the guilty party and go for the simpler solution. Human nature. I do believe ISIS & other similar extremist groups are trying quite hard to pick a religious war.

Unless the muslim communities in which they dwell also work to root them out, we will eventually have our religious war………and they will be forced to chose. UK is reaching this critical point rather quickly. Some other European countries are not far behind. The US lags mainly because a large portion of it’s population is armed, not because the terrorist cells aren’t here making plans. It’s much more difficult to count on a successful attack if you’re facing an unknown percentage of armed opponents.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Local A.N.T.S Meetup in NC

June 4, 2017 Cadit 0

Hi Partner; hope all is well with you and yours. I wish to ask something and if you think if its a bad Idea let me know? I also belong to a group called the Carolina Preppers Network. Most meetings have between twenty and forty members attending. Will it be ok to open our camping meet-up to this group and invite anyone who may wish to come for a meet & Greet? Many are new and are hungry for information. just an idea. But; of course I’ll have to run this by the leader of this group for an ok. :)

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
ReadyMom wrote:
😕 :?:? So is this bothering anyone else: WHY did the terrorists wear FALSE suicide vests? Why go to all that trouble and they are not going to use them? What’s the purpose? (We know they do everything with a purpose). Is it a distraction? What kind of a distraction? What else could be the reason. I’m just finding this SO strange. -k

If you don’t have a real suicide vest, what is the next best thing? A false suicide vest would cause confusion and a stampede. Warriors have been using ruses for thousands of years. Makes sense to me.
Reb

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 ReadyMom 0

:?:?:? So is this bothering anyone else: WHY did the terrorists wear FALSE suicide vests? Why go to all that trouble and they are not going to use them? What’s the purpose? (We know they do everything with a purpose). Is it a distraction? What kind of a distraction? What else could be the reason. I’m just finding this SO strange. -k

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: June 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

June 4, 2017 Genevieve 0

Been picking quarts and quarts of tart cherries. Freezing them for now after I pit them to use later in jams and other condiments for meats and such. Also will do up some jars for pies and cobblers. I have 2 trees just full of them this year

Bought 30 more cattle panel fencing and 60 T posts to replace the old fencing around the property that was here when we bought it

Have new eye prescription and will get glasses off the net as extras/backups this week

Doctor’s appointment this week for checkup

Also will buy a case of freeze dried meats this week. Just have to compare prices on some sites

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another terror attack in the UK

June 4, 2017 rickdun 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

rickdun wrote:I agree with Illini, they’re here in the U.S., but not as many as in the E.U..

Nice one Ajax.

Here’s the terrorist investigations in the U.S.. My bet is they’re in all the far left/sanctuary cities.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fbis- … le/2622560

I think one of the huge differences between the US and the rest of the Western World – talking Muslims – here in the US the Muslims are more or less openly preparing for armed engagements …. there’s Muslim compounds scattered all over the country with very buzy rifle ranges – they claim their members are like preppers – just looking to defend their way of life – and supposedly all legal gunowners and using their 2A Rights ….

but don’t try to gain entrance to the compounds or ask any ????s – and that includes the LEOs in those areas …. nothing different than the militia groups – but everyone knows every other member is an undercover agent or a paid informer – is that true for these Muslim compounds? – considering the past 8 years of Obammy and his control over the FBI and other alphabet agencies – highly doubtful ….

Here’s a list of 22 terrorist training camps in the U.S.:

https://crtxnews.com/22-islamic-jihad-t … one-state/

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:10 am