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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: The Dollar Store

October 1, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Genevieve wrote:
This is NOT TRUE. Dollar Tree BOUGHT Dollar General and THEY ( DG) are closing stores

they are rivals – they both fought to buy out the Family Dollar chain – Dollar Tree won and they have been sorting thru locations for the last couple of years – Dollar General been buying the rejects up and increasing their #s ….

Dollar General has opened close to 2,000 new stores in the last couple of years ….

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 29, 2017 Pedro wyoming 0
Cast Iron wrote:
Idahobeef, first and foremost I have to inform you, your thread title immediately brought the Australian 80s rock band Men At Work and their song “It’s a Mistake” to mind.

I am singing it now in my head.
Damn you.

I started suffering the same flashback as i was opening the thread. :shock:

idahobeef wrote:
Muwhahaha! I was listening to that very song when this subject occurred to me :)

Thanks ID Beef :cursing:

To the OP…..

idahobeef wrote:
Instead of moving (which we have pondered), I WAS thinking of moving it all into a storage unit. Ours has brick walls, steel bars, and barbed wire at the top, so it’d be a great place to bug out too, haha. Plus they are very well insulated and air conditioned (we live in a desert), and have low access routes. I honestly dont think anyone will be looking for FOOD at a storage unit place. Well its cheapert than moving and I can rent a HUGE one for just $80, hehe. Thoughts? Comments?

I have worked with a few previously misguided folks (felons) on a few jobs over the years. A couple of them made a living from B&E on untended, open access storage lockers. Their success caused me to give pause to my practices doing such. Furthermore, a couple of years ago, a storage locker i rented suffered weather damage from high wind wherein the entire sheet metal building was ripped off the concrete foundation exposing everything i ,and others, had stored there. The goods were largely intact but exposed for all to see who had what for several hours. If yours is that well protected, it probably has video surveillance as well. That means the owner and his employees know what you have stored there.

I would suggest a remote location with a shipping container very well concealed. It need not be buried, rather looking like something it is not.

Also, you might want to read what FerFal wrote about the scavenging practices undertaken by the hungry masses when Argentina has it’s economic crisis a couple of decades ago. In summary, he wrote that no road, street, or cattle trail was unventured. No house, shed or lot was left unsearched.

pW!

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 27, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve been outed before. One situation was another Prepper, that I ran into in public, outing me in front of relatives who weren’t clued in. I’ve also had my Ex-wife clue in some folks I wouldn’t have.

Don’t live where I used to now, so some of that is taken care of. The new neighbors are not aware. If SHTF in my current spot, I’m temporarily an island and I doubt those who do know I prep will get to my location, and they do not know entirely what I have.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 26, 2017 jimLE 0

i kept my mouth shut from the get go.not only when it comes to neighbours.but when it comes to family as well..only person with in my family that knew.was my mom.but yet,that couldn’t be helped.seeing how we lived under the same roof..but yet.i do wonder if she ever talked about it to family,while she was alive….i’m also not quick to trust anyone either..good thing for that to..on account it looks like to me.that some of my neighbours can’t be trusted in the here n now,, even less in a worse case scenario…

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 25, 2017 daaswampman 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Right there with ya….lessons learned.

As Angie said, moving is the only real solution…anything else at this point results in zombies at the door.

Stashing your stuff might save you some loss but they’ll still be coming. desperation when nothing found will lead to further violence. So IF you survive it, sure, there’s supplies to fall back on.

I went with a combination of going grey, stashing and displaying hard target.

The cats outa the bag, cant put it back, so I decided to make myself a very visible hard target until we actually move. Verbally and visible. AR’s in full site going to the range every weekend for practice, 1000 rounds visible at purchase, Very frank talks with neighbors of training every weekend for long range and CQB training with vets and local sheriffs that have formed a network(Happens to be true)…..Discussions of how(And this actually happened) a work associate stated to me “They don’t need to prep, He’ll just show up at my front door if SHTF…ha, ha, ha”…..And how I told him very seriously I answered “If SHTF and anyone shows up at my door for anything that they will be met with the wrong end of a barrel by multiple Vets and myself…No one would be allowed in and no extra food will be available to leave and bodies on the lawn will help us deter the next door knocker.”………..

This was stated to the nosey neighbor that often offers his un-asked opinion on the neighborhood goings-on in day to day conversations……I know my message got out when another prepped neighbor told me he heard about the conversation….lol……he also heard from same said neighbor that I had sold my stuff(Food) as I was in financial hardship…lol…another white lie.

Truth is, nothing short of moving will fix this….But, hard target ideology will deter all but the most desperate and if it comes to that, neighbors would be hit first(softer targets), and then they’ll hit you after all others have been hit and they were going to hit you eventually anyways…..With enough time passing in a SHTF it’s inevitable whether you’re known as a prepper or not so better be prepped for that as well.

Anyone here can disagree but no one will state anything other than opinion since it’s not happened yet in the US……This is the route I chose. It doesn’t matter since the cats outa the bag and can never be put back in.

Best solution if you ever open your big fat mouth is to move….The only real security is to never open said mouth to begin with……
If you already have, like the dumb-asss that I was, broadcast :tank::gunsmile::gunshooting::gunsmile:hard target :gunsmile::gunshooting::gunsmile::tank: until you move.

We still wave to each other but the prepping jokes stopped immediately. ;)

my $.02

~D

You can have it both ways, but it is going to cost you! I am very open about storm preparation, have a large shelter, teach a local class, and am willing to help others get started.

The camp is never discussed with anyone, especially family. The master plan is simple. If things are not too bad I will stay and help everyone I can. Beyond that, I will walk away and let them have it.

Your first prep is yourself! Can you keep a secret and never tell anyone? Swamp

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 25, 2017 JayJay 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Right there with ya….lessons learned.

As Angie said, moving is the only real solution…anything else at this point results in zombies at the door.

Stashing your stuff might save you some loss but they’ll still be coming. desperation when nothing found will lead to further violence. So IF you survive it, sure, there’s supplies to fall back on.

I went with a combination of going grey, stashing and displaying hard target.

The cats outa the bag, cant put it back, so I decided to make myself a very visible hard target until we actually move. Verbally and visible. AR’s in full site going to the range every weekend for practice, 1000 rounds visible at purchase, Very frank talks with neighbors of training every weekend for long range and CQB training with vets and local sheriffs that have formed a network(Happens to be true)…..Discussions of how(And this actually happened) a work associate stated to me “They don’t need to prep, He’ll just show up at my front door if SHTF…ha, ha, ha”…..And how I told him very seriously I answered “If SHTF and anyone shows up at my door for anything that they will be met with the wrong end of a barrel by multiple Vets and myself…No one would be allowed in and no extra food will be available to leave and bodies on the lawn will help us deter the next door knocker.”………..

This was stated to the nosey neighbor that often offers his un-asked opinion on the neighborhood goings-on in day to day conversations……I know my message got out when another prepped neighbor told me he heard about the conversation….lol……he also heard from same said neighbor that I had sold my stuff(Food) as I was in financial hardship…lol…another white lie.

Truth is, nothing short of moving will fix this….But, hard target ideology will deter all but the most desperate and if it comes to that, neighbors would be hit first(softer targets), and then they’ll hit you after all others have been hit and they were going to hit you eventually anyways…..With enough time passing in a SHTF it’s inevitable whether you’re known as a prepper or not so better be prepped for that as well.

Anyone here can disagree but no one will state anything other than opinion since it’s not happened yet in the US……This is the route I chose. It doesn’t matter since the cats outa the bag and can never be put back in.

Best solution if you ever open your big fat mouth is to move….The only real security is to never open said mouth to begin with……
If you already have, like the dumb-asss that I was, broadcast :tank::gunsmile::gunshooting::gunsmile:hard target :gunsmile::gunshooting::gunsmile::tank: until you move.

We still wave to each other but the prepping jokes stopped immediately. ;)

my $.02

~D

WOW!!! MOst of your story could be my story!!

There’s no chance of us moving any time soon. Husband had a seizure, banged his head against a log mill yard, had craniotomy, and is at day 29 after surgery.

All those neighbors have proven to be just that–folks that live near us…not one call or visit for 17 days.
I had to watch Gene every few minutes (run in an run back out!!)the 4th day from rehab( I kidnapped him) while I mowed a yard not mowed for almost 4 weeks!!

Some great neighbors I have, huh!

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • The Dollar Store

September 25, 2017 idahobeef 0

Just a friendly reminder to my prepper buddies in the Pacific Northwest; dollar stores are an AMAZING place to find deals. One pound of beans at Walmart is over $2, at the dollar store the same is just $1, a steal! You can also find some other super cheap items, especially the small tea candles (they are hideously expensive at our local Freddy’s at $8 a bag). You can also get coffee in glass jars for just $1, real coffee not the decafe kind (long-term trade goods!). Also scads of cheap spices! The only thing you cannot get cheaply at the Dollar Store from what I have seen is cases of water (bummer); we go through a LOT of water here in the desert.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

September 25, 2017 idahobeef 0
Cast Iron wrote:
Idahobeef, first and foremost I have to inform you, your thread title immediately brought the Australian 80s rock band Men At Work and their song “It’s a Mistake” to mind.

I am singing it now in my head.
Damn you.

Muwhahaha! I was listening to that very song when this subject occurred to me :)

Statistics: Posted by idahobeef — Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:42 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Scan your hand or forehead, please

September 7, 2017 idahobeef 0

ZOMG! I didn’t think I would live to see this but my local Gesa Credit Union where I bank now has a “scan your hand” thing at the banking counter! Holy crap, can you say Mark of the Beast? I asked the teller about it and she said it actually scans for your VEINS, but it doesn’t work well. She said its for people who lost their card or forgot it before coming into the bank, EEK! Man oh man, this is CRAZY. I mean I knew the Devil was real but not THIS real, this literal. I knew about the scan your hand thing in Europe but in America?! Scary stuff!!!

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

September 1, 2017 daaswampman 0

This is not unique to the Hampton’s. Anywhere the right people live, there will be security. A friend lives North of Dallas in one of those 15 mil dollar town homes complete with every kind of staff. The security is plain clothes, but every bit as able, armed, and trained as any SWAT unit in the country.

Hard to say what will happen when it hits the fan, but I would want to be near the resources and I would guess those people will get it before us. Swamp

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

September 1, 2017 daaswampman 0

This is not unique to the Hampton’s. Anywhere the right people live, there will be security. A friend lives North of Dallas in one of those 15 mil dollar town homes complete with every kind of staff. The security is plain clothes, but every bit as able, armed, and trained as any SWAT unit in the country.

Hard to say what will happen when it hits the fan, but I would want to be near the resources and I would guess those people will get it before us. Swamp

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 31, 2017 Cast Iron 0

Idahobeef, first and foremost I have to inform you, your thread title immediately brought the Australian 80s rock band Men At Work and their song “It’s a Mistake” to mind.

I am singing it now in my head.
Damn you.

Continuing on, in your predicament, can you use what you have on hand to turn all those people into assets vs liabilities?

For example, hey, I have all this food. I need you to help me do X.
X can be anything from standing watch for 4 hours in the dead of night, to weeding the gardens, cutting firewood, etc.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 31, 2017 Cast Iron 0

Idahobeef, first and foremost I have to inform you, your thread title immediately brought the Australian 80s rock band Men At Work and their song “It’s a Mistake” to mind.

I am singing it now in my head.
Damn you.

Continuing on, in your predicament, can you use what you have on hand to turn all those people into assets vs liabilities?

For example, hey, I have all this food. I need you to help me do X.
X can be anything from standing watch for 4 hours in the dead of night, to weeding the gardens, cutting firewood, etc.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Cast Iron 0

I have family (by marriage) who have houses in the Hamptons.

There are two worlds there:
The rich, elite.
And their servants or support staff (house keepers, the nanny, their chauffeurs, landscappers etc.) aka “The Help.”

Two worlds that only touch superficially.

If these security forces have any clue, at the onset of a SHTF event, they would likely beat feet and leave these soft handed, 1% to their own fate.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Cast Iron 0

I have family (by marriage) who have houses in the Hamptons.

There are two worlds there:
The rich, elite.
And their servants or support staff (house keepers, the nanny, their chauffeurs, landscappers etc.) aka “The Help.”

Two worlds that only touch superficially.

If these security forces have any clue, at the onset of a SHTF event, they would likely beat feet and leave these soft handed, 1% to their own fate.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Blondie wrote:
I’m wondering if what they’re seeing in part isn’t Blackwarer aka Academi. They have branched into private security. Get the Sheriff or local PD to swear you in for an event and you can be force du jour as needed.

Handyman, Erik Prince’s sister is Betsy DeVoss. What a dang coincidence. ;)

more like more sophisticated personal bodyguard types from the FED agencies and major city detective departments – these guys are dressing commando for show in the picture – everyday work attire you couldn’t spot them – thug behavior and manners wouldn’t cut it around that area …

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Blondie wrote:
I’m wondering if what they’re seeing in part isn’t Blackwarer aka Academi. They have branched into private security. Get the Sheriff or local PD to swear you in for an event and you can be force du jour as needed.

Handyman, Erik Prince’s sister is Betsy DeVoss. What a dang coincidence. ;)

more like more sophisticated personal bodyguard types from the FED agencies and major city detective departments – these guys are dressing commando for show in the picture – everyday work attire you couldn’t spot them – thug behavior and manners wouldn’t cut it around that area …

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:32 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

The Hamptons are one of the elite retreat areas to keep an eye on when a SHTF is on the pending edge – the powerbrokers and celebs will be vacating NYC in droves – if they can’t jet out to parts unknown they’ll head to their weekend place by car, train and even helicopter ….

if you know anyone that has any kind of connections around The Hamptons or those exit routes out of the city – have them jingle you with any unusually heavy elite traffic ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:00 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Militarization of the Hamptons

August 31, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

The Hamptons are one of the elite retreat areas to keep an eye on when a SHTF is on the pending edge – the powerbrokers and celebs will be vacating NYC in droves – if they can’t jet out to parts unknown they’ll head to their weekend place by car, train and even helicopter ….

if you know anyone that has any kind of connections around The Hamptons or those exit routes out of the city – have them jingle you with any unusually heavy elite traffic ….

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 31, 2017 ReadyMom 0
handyman777 wrote:

idahobeef wrote:Wow, I think we as a prepper family have made a huge mistake. I have been reading a bunch of post-EMP books lately and never considered the HUGE numbers of hungry hoard people who’d attack and wipe out entire towns. This can include your neighbors! Our family has stocked up on way too much to really flee the area to safety. In addition, we’ve told neighbors, friends, and distant family to “prep” and now they KNOW we have lots of extra food. Your neighbor or friend may HAVE to kill you to keep their kids from starving; what a thought. I wish we hadn’t told everyone to prep, I bet 90% of them haven’t. We’d been much better off if no one knew what we had. In hindsight, that was pretty foolish.

You need to go (gray), tell any who ask about your prepping that you quit and you sold most of your goods: (LIE) You Know; ;) nothing has happened, nothing is going to happen and I’m done prepping. :nervous:
Just keep your inner most circle close and on the same page. OR MOVE and stay quiet.

Tell them that since nothing happened, you donated it to the texas flood relief! :ninja:

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 31, 2017 handyman777 0

That’s an option, but how many others will be heading to the storage unit ?

Do you have 24hr access.

By week 2, after SHTF people will be looking at storage units-probably easier to invade than a fortified home.

Would you have an escape route if needed, or only one way in.

If funds are there and this is your only option, consider a BOV locked in your storage unit loaded with all the things you need or an “enclosed trailer” not travel trailer, that can be hooked up and hauled out in a hurry, a trailer might be the way to go because people won’t know whats inside, also can be used as a shelter if needed.

(paint “BILLY-BOBS” or what ever, landscape service on the side and no one will know the difference)

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 31, 2017 handyman777 0

That’s an option, but how many others will be heading to the storage unit ?

Do you have 24hr access.

By week 2, after SHTF people will be looking at storage units-probably easier to invade than a fortified home.

Would you have an escape route if needed, or only one way in.

If funds are there and this is your only option, consider a BOV locked in your storage unit loaded with all the things you need or an “enclosed trailer” not travel trailer, that can be hooked up and hauled out in a hurry, a trailer might be the way to go because people won’t know whats inside, also can be used as a shelter if needed.

(paint “BILLY-BOBS” or what ever, landscape service on the side and no one will know the difference)

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:06 am