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February 20, 2017 Photon Guy 0

So after reading this thread I looked up Dr. Pry on the internet and I must say he sounds like somebody who knows what he’s doing when he talks about the possibility of an EMP threat. I’ve heard and seen him speak on youtube videos and I would like to meet him if possible. I would like to know if he ever attends prepper expos and conventions, I would want to go to one that he’s at.

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February 18, 2017 ajax727 0

Gunns
Looking for the info I read awhile back on underground nuke test . If I remember correctly they used materials that would absorb the wave in part and reduce the wave as it expands outward . I think the Russians developed this process , yep blame the Russians . So it acted as a buffer to hide the size of the weapon used to test .

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February 18, 2017 Mollypup 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

BK in KC wrote:

Mollypup wrote:Who is going to prove NK did it? That is the benefit of an EMP. And in truth, who is going to believe NK has the tech to pull it off?? Likely no one, truly. (because the thought is a wee bit terrifying)

The military wouldn’t require “proof”, Pyonyang and probably Tehran and other “usual suspects” would be engulfed in mushroom clouds once an EMP was detected. There wouldn’t be a trial, just a quick consensus among military leaders and the POTUS of who probably did it and then a launch before the military becomes too degraded.

the US wouldn’t be the only country contributing to the nuke strikes – if the US goes down it opens the box for a whole lot of exploitation by the bad guys – very good chance of full nuke strikes around the world before the dust settles ….

I wouldn’t be so sure. Stop & think about it.

The US is already down for the count. What our retaliation missiles are going to come from outside the mainland? Are the Powers that Be truly going to think an EMP hit justifies a nuclear response? Which could trigger an all out nuclear war? Doubtful. We *might* retaliate with nukes, but I’m not so sure our allies would join in. They might attack, just not pull out the nuclear option. Most likely would talk us out of it as well. Why? The damage is done. What is going to fuel our war machine when our country has just been thrown back a century & has a serious nationwide crisis on their hands? Not to mention a nuclear response by us puts a big target on us for the same response from someone else, when we’re already crippled. Invite a double whammy? Again doubtful.

I imagine what would happen is that troops would be called home to protect a now defenseless homeland that has suddenly been plunged into chaos in an attempt to keep some sort of order & damage control. That would make more sense.

The moment we’re EMPed we cease to exist as a world power. We’ll be in league with the rest of the 3rd world countries. Our military will only maintain it’s strength for so long, until it’s resources are exhausted because they won’t be able to be replenished. Would our allies replenish? They’re in economic crisis already & once we’re down they’re economy is going to crash. I doubt they’ll bother. They’re going to be too occupied in removing the NK issue before they meet the same fate & trying to avoid WWIII in the process.

During WWII the population of the world were ignorant about nukes & the repercussions that go along with them. That is not the case in 2017. World leaders will do everything in their power to avoid nuclear response. That’s why the Cuban missile crisis was a “crisis” and not global thermal nuclear war. When it comes right down to it, no one wants to go down that path again. They’re certainly not going to do so for a country already dead in the water. The deed is done. There would have to be more to it than just NK using an EMP on us. My opinion anyway. IF NK is able to get a nuclear missile, then it may be a completely different game because their leader is insane enough to use it. (lord help us) Or perhaps if it is some sort of joint attack with someone else.

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February 17, 2017 Gunns 0
ajax727 wrote:
Korea has had a lot of help building nukes that work correctly and a way to deliver them . There underground test could have been buffered to reduce the shockwave and give a smaller reading as to the size of the nuke .With what they have on hand they could explode one over us and shut us down . Also if they set one off in the hemisphere as an attack on other satellite well there goes the eyes and ears of most of the superpowers .
I do try to be prepared for the little what if stuff that I know could and has happen but things I have not control over all I can do is prepare as best as I can .
Not worried about Korea if the dip jumps he will be wiped out in just a few hours . I might be wrong but just one sub has enough fire power to level his country and leave holes were the bunkers are .

How do you buffer a nuke?

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February 17, 2017 ajax727 0

Korea has had a lot of help building nukes that work correctly and a way to deliver them . There underground test could have been buffered to reduce the shockwave and give a smaller reading as to the size of the nuke .With what they have on hand they could explode one over us and shut us down . Also if they set one off in the hemisphere as an attack on other satellite well there goes the eyes and ears of most of the superpowers .
I do try to be prepared for the little what if stuff that I know could and has happen but things I have not control over all I can do is prepare as best as I can .
Not worried about Korea if the dip jumps he will be wiped out in just a few hours . I might be wrong but just one sub has enough fire power to level his country and leave holes were the bunkers are .

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February 17, 2017 NJMike 0

I’m no more concerned currently than I was previously. I can’t trust what’s communicated to the populace vs. reality. It’s still likely in my mind that Russia, China, or someone else could EMP the U.S. just as much as N. Korea could or would. I also doubt the WH, our military, or intelligence agencies would even know of an impending attack. We won’t have warnings.

That said, the Grim Reaper is waiting in the shadows every day. Think I’m more likely to die in my commute to work and home than some of the things we discuss here. Of course that doesn’t stop me from preparing to deal with any type of plausibly survivable scenario. When something happens, and if I’m left standing in the opening minutes, I’ll definitely take a quick mental calculus of how optimistic or dead I’ll be. Happy Friday :)

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February 17, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
BK in KC wrote:

Mollypup wrote:Who is going to prove NK did it? That is the benefit of an EMP. And in truth, who is going to believe NK has the tech to pull it off?? Likely no one, truly. (because the thought is a wee bit terrifying)

The military wouldn’t require “proof”, Pyonyang and probably Tehran and other “usual suspects” would be engulfed in mushroom clouds once an EMP was detected. There wouldn’t be a trial, just a quick consensus among military leaders and the POTUS of who probably did it and then a launch before the military becomes too degraded.

the US wouldn’t be the only country contributing to the nuke strikes – if the US goes down it opens the box for a whole lot of exploitation by the bad guys – very good chance of full nuke strikes around the world before the dust settles ….

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February 17, 2017 BK in KC 0
Mollypup wrote:
Who is going to prove NK did it? That is the benefit of an EMP. And in truth, who is going to believe NK has the tech to pull it off?? Likely no one, truly. (because the thought is a wee bit terrifying)

The military wouldn’t require “proof”, Pyonyang and probably Tehran and other “usual suspects” would be engulfed in mushroom clouds once an EMP was detected. There wouldn’t be a trial, just a quick consensus among military leaders and the POTUS of who probably did it and then a launch before the military becomes too degraded.

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February 17, 2017 Mollypup 0

I think American’s have a serious issue with underestimating their enemies & over estimating our response to those enemies, most especially given the current climate of the nation.

Who is going to prove NK did it? That is the benefit of an EMP. And in truth, who is going to believe NK has the tech to pull it off?? Likely no one, truly. (because the thought is a wee bit terrifying)

Their leader is completely insane. If his cheese continues to slide off the cracker……..and he reaches the point where he’s insistent upon carrying out a plan to hit us, he’s going to hit us, regardless of what China may or may not want. When was the last time any of you tried to reason with an insane person? (hint: you can’t)

Taking us out likely would not cause financial suicide for China anyway. Think of it this way, we’re down & out for the count from an EMP. No one is going to be purchasing OUR goods. Who is going to jump in and fill that gap in the global economy? Most likely China. So while our being out of the purchasing picture may hurt them initially, it isn’t going to after that.

Not that it really matters if it’s NK, China, Russia, or some random terrorist group. The end result would be the same. We’re down & out. A year is being super optimistic. It could take decades to get the country up & running again. For starters, who’s going to foot the bill? How are you going to organize workers on a national scale with no communications?

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February 16, 2017 contrarian 0

There are means to tracking satellites at launch. Once launched within hours they have been tracked enough that prediction of where they will be in 6 months to high accuracy is pretty easy. If anyone wanted to achieve a surprise, it would have to be during the first orbit after launch and even then I suspect we’d know it’s orbit. NK isn’t the group I’d worry about because we would return the favor. It’s non-governments we would worry about ISIS or such is much more of a risk.

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February 16, 2017 BK in KC 0
Photon Guy wrote:

BK in KC wrote:No way China lets NK EMP the number one customer of their exports. It would be financial suicide for them.

With Trump in office that will probably soon change about us buying stuff made in China.

I don’t see the trade deficit with China changing much regardless of what Trump does. If anything, if the economy keeps improving demand for goods of all kinds will increase.

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February 15, 2017 rickdun 0

Sounds very scary RM, might have to get me another faraday cage. I do have one question, who in North Korea is going to let anyone inspect their satellites before they blast off, my guess is nobody. All we peeons can do is prepare the best we can and hope the government does something about it and soon or it’s going to be lights out.

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February 15, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

the reason why North Korea is more threat than they should be – totally insane dictator and military hierarchy – there won’t be an Arab Spring or Commie Bloc Crumble …

when they feel that they are losing control it’ll be an entire regime suicide – full scale attack – invasion of South Korea and the massacre of the US troops stationed on the DMZ – some kind of attack on the US mainland – most likely Japan also …. N Korea is a master smuggler – worldwide system of spreading drugs, arms and counterfeit $$$$ – don’t discount nukes being smuggled in and pre-positioned in major cities ….

a NK satellite launch of what looks innocent during a country crisis – something to watch & worry – a single EMP enhanced nuke over the US will create havoc ….

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February 15, 2017 ReadyMom 0

Starting a thread for discussions/news involving Korea & EMP threat concerns.

The following article is written by Dr. Pry, who is VERY knowledgeable about EMPS & the Korean threat. As mentioned before, I had the privileged to have him as a guest speaker at one of my Pennsylvania Prep Events. He lives, sleeps & breaths EMPs & their threat to America. The man is like a “mad” scientist who frantically wants people to be aware, understand the threat and be prepared. A true American Patriot. He’s been warning that Korea is a significant threat, for some time now. . -k

North Korea, the real threat
The regime’s irrationality makes a catastrophic missile strike plausible

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … al-threat/
By Peter Vincent Pry – – Tuesday, February 14, 2017

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

When might North Korean develop missiles capable of striking the United States? Today.

Four years ago in December 2012, when North Korea orbited its KMS-3 satellite over the U.S., I warned they could conduct an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack by satellite.

An EMP that blacks out the national electric grid would be a far greater catastrophe than blasting a city. A North Korean 10-kiloton warhead blasting a city might cause about 200,000 casualties.

However, the same warhead making a high-altitude EMP attack — though there would be no blast, thermal or fallout effects on the ground — could knock out the electric grid and other life-sustaining critical infrastructures for more than a year, killing 90 percent of the population through starvation.

Why blast a city when EMP attack can destroy the whole nation? North Korea wants to be able to do both. They can launch an EMP attack already.

Another advantage of EMP attack by satellite is anonymity, to escape retaliation, whereas an intercontinental ballistic missile destroying a city would have North Korea’s fingerprints all over it.

North Korea’s KMS-3 satellite is in low-Earth orbit, along with hundreds of other satellites. KMS-3’s south polar trajectory approaches the United States from the south, where there are no ballistic missile early warning radars or national missile defenses. The U.S. is blind and defenseless from that direction.

An EMP attack would damage radars, satellites, ground stations and other national technical means necessary to ascertain who attacked. A super-EMP weapon could paralyze even hardened command, control, communications and intelligence assets and strategic forces, rendering them unable to retaliate, even if the aggressor could be identified.

In 2004, Moscow’s top EMP experts warned the Congressional EMP Commission that the design for their super-EMP warhead “accidentally” leaked to North Korea; that Russian, Chinese and Pakistani scientists had been recruited by Pyongyang and were helping its nuclear and missile programs; and that North Korea could develop a super-EMP warhead “in a few years.”

In 2006, North Korea conducted its first nuclear test. It was dismissed by the press as failed because of the very low-yield — only one to three kilotons. But it looked to the EMP Commission like a super-EMP weapon because such a weapon would have very low yield, being designed to produce gamma rays (which create the EMP shock wave), not a big explosion. Most of North Korea’s nuclear tests have been low-yield devices.

One simple design for a super-EMP warhead would resemble an Enhanced Radiation Weapon (ERW), or neutron weapon, which produces a lot of gamma rays in addition to neutrons, like the ERW artillery shell for the 155 mm howitzer, designed during the 1950s and deployed by the U.S. during the 1980s. Such a weapon would have very low-yield, one to five kilotons, and weigh less than 100 pounds — small enough to fit on North Korea’s KMS-3 satellite.

North Korea launched another suspicious satellite, the KMS-4, on the same south polar trajectory as the KMS-3, on Feb. 7, 2016. So now there are two North Korean satellites orbiting over the United States on trajectories consistent with a surprise EMP attack — perhaps another idea borrowed from the Russians. Moscow during the Cold War had a secret weapon, the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System, to deliver a surprise EMP attack by satellite.

Senior national security experts from the Reagan and Clinton administrations have warned about the potential EMP threat from North Korea’s satellites — including a former director of central intelligence, chairman of the National Intelligence Council, White House science adviser and director of the Strategic Defense Initiative. South Korean military intelligence reportedly warned that Russians are in North Korea helping develop super-EMP weapons. In 2013 a military commentator for the People’s Republic of China stated North Korea has super-EMP warheads.

EMP threats from satellites are ignored by the liberal media, which prefer to insist North Korea cannot yet blast a U.S. city with an ICBM.

James Oberg, a distinguished rocket scientist who visited North Korea’s satellite launch facility, warns in a recent Space Review article:

“There have been fears expressed that North Korea might use a satellite to carry a small nuclear warhead into orbit and then detonate it over the United States for an EMP strike. These concerns seem extreme and require an astronomical scale of irrationality on the part of the regime. The most frightening aspect, I’ve come to realize, is that exactly such a scale of insanity is now evident in the rest of their ‘space program.’ That doomsday scenario, it now seems, has become plausible enough to compel the United States to take active measures to insure that no North Korean satellite, unless thoroughly inspected before launch, be allowed to reach orbit and ever overfly the United States.”

Is anyone listening?

• Peter Vincent Pry is chief of staff of the Congressional EMP Commission, served in the House Armed Services Committee, the CIA, and is author of “Blackout Wars” (CreateSpace Independent Publishing, 2015).

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February 15, 2017 ReadyMom 0

Starting a thread for discussions/news involving Korea & EMP threat concerns.

The following article is written by Dr. Pry, who is VERY knowledgeable about EMPS & the Korean threat. As mentioned before, I had the privileged to have him as a guest speaker at one of my Pennsylvania Prep Events. He lives, sleeps & breaths EMPs & their threat to America. The man is like a “mad” scientist who frantically wants people to be aware, understand the threat and be prepared. A true American Patriot. He’s been warning that Korea is a significant threat, for some time now. . -k

North Korea, the real threat
The regime’s irrationality makes a catastrophic missile strike plausible

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … al-threat/
By Peter Vincent Pry – – Tuesday, February 14, 2017

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

When might North Korean develop missiles capable of striking the United States? Today.

Four years ago in December 2012, when North Korea orbited its KMS-3 satellite over the U.S., I warned they could conduct an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack by satellite.

An EMP that blacks out the national electric grid would be a far greater catastrophe than blasting a city. A North Korean 10-kiloton warhead blasting a city might cause about 200,000 casualties.

However, the same warhead making a high-altitude EMP attack — though there would be no blast, thermal or fallout effects on the ground — could knock out the electric grid and other life-sustaining critical infrastructures for more than a year, killing 90 percent of the population through starvation.

Why blast a city when EMP attack can destroy the whole nation? North Korea wants to be able to do both. They can launch an EMP attack already.

Another advantage of EMP attack by satellite is anonymity, to escape retaliation, whereas an intercontinental ballistic missile destroying a city would have North Korea’s fingerprints all over it.

North Korea’s KMS-3 satellite is in low-Earth orbit, along with hundreds of other satellites. KMS-3’s south polar trajectory approaches the United States from the south, where there are no ballistic missile early warning radars or national missile defenses. The U.S. is blind and defenseless from that direction.

An EMP attack would damage radars, satellites, ground stations and other national technical means necessary to ascertain who attacked. A super-EMP weapon could paralyze even hardened command, control, communications and intelligence assets and strategic forces, rendering them unable to retaliate, even if the aggressor could be identified.

In 2004, Moscow’s top EMP experts warned the Congressional EMP Commission that the design for their super-EMP warhead “accidentally” leaked to North Korea; that Russian, Chinese and Pakistani scientists had been recruited by Pyongyang and were helping its nuclear and missile programs; and that North Korea could develop a super-EMP warhead “in a few years.”

In 2006, North Korea conducted its first nuclear test. It was dismissed by the press as failed because of the very low-yield — only one to three kilotons. But it looked to the EMP Commission like a super-EMP weapon because such a weapon would have very low yield, being designed to produce gamma rays (which create the EMP shock wave), not a big explosion. Most of North Korea’s nuclear tests have been low-yield devices.

One simple design for a super-EMP warhead would resemble an Enhanced Radiation Weapon (ERW), or neutron weapon, which produces a lot of gamma rays in addition to neutrons, like the ERW artillery shell for the 155 mm howitzer, designed during the 1950s and deployed by the U.S. during the 1980s. Such a weapon would have very low-yield, one to five kilotons, and weigh less than 100 pounds — small enough to fit on North Korea’s KMS-3 satellite.

North Korea launched another suspicious satellite, the KMS-4, on the same south polar trajectory as the KMS-3, on Feb. 7, 2016. So now there are two North Korean satellites orbiting over the United States on trajectories consistent with a surprise EMP attack — perhaps another idea borrowed from the Russians. Moscow during the Cold War had a secret weapon, the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System, to deliver a surprise EMP attack by satellite.

Senior national security experts from the Reagan and Clinton administrations have warned about the potential EMP threat from North Korea’s satellites — including a former director of central intelligence, chairman of the National Intelligence Council, White House science adviser and director of the Strategic Defense Initiative. South Korean military intelligence reportedly warned that Russians are in North Korea helping develop super-EMP weapons. In 2013 a military commentator for the People’s Republic of China stated North Korea has super-EMP warheads.

EMP threats from satellites are ignored by the liberal media, which prefer to insist North Korea cannot yet blast a U.S. city with an ICBM.

James Oberg, a distinguished rocket scientist who visited North Korea’s satellite launch facility, warns in a recent Space Review article:

“There have been fears expressed that North Korea might use a satellite to carry a small nuclear warhead into orbit and then detonate it over the United States for an EMP strike. These concerns seem extreme and require an astronomical scale of irrationality on the part of the regime. The most frightening aspect, I’ve come to realize, is that exactly such a scale of insanity is now evident in the rest of their ‘space program.’ That doomsday scenario, it now seems, has become plausible enough to compel the United States to take active measures to insure that no North Korean satellite, unless thoroughly inspected before launch, be allowed to reach orbit and ever overfly the United States.”

Is anyone listening?

• Peter Vincent Pry is chief of staff of the Congressional EMP Commission, served in the House Armed Services Committee, the CIA, and is author of “Blackout Wars” (CreateSpace Independent Publishing, 2015).

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February 13, 2017 daaswampman 0

The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Lonely on the evening hillside
the shepherd boy did tend
the villages vulnerable grazing sheep
and thought the night would never end.

With naught to do, nor companion there
he whiled away the night
when to him came a dreadful thought
that caused him such a fright.

Came the thought of a hungry wolf
who might cause him harm
The villagers had instructed him
to sound out an alarm.

Cry wolf they said to the shepherd boy
and to your aid we’ll fly.
So bored and lonely he cried wolf twice
each time it was a lie.

Be mindful of these false alarms
the shepherd boy was told
For we may not believe you next
and you will lose the fold.

A wolf so hungry that caution flew
did sneak up on the flock.
Fearing for his life as well
the boy cried out in shock.

Wolf! Wolf! the cry went out
but fell upon deaf ears.
So when the boy cried wolf this time
the villagers felt no fears.

A lie is a lie
and to lie is to be a sinner.
And in the case of the shepherd boy..
well… he became the big wolf’s dinner.

So lie not, my friends
not even in jest.
For the shepherd boy cried wolf twice…
and now you know the rest.

The Democrats should read this poem and hopefully understand the meaning! Right or wrong- if you whine long and loud enough – nobody will be listening! Choose your battles wisely! Swamp

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February 12, 2017 IceFire 0
TRex2 wrote:

IceFire wrote:

farmer_dude48 wrote:I have a couple of questions if anybody can help…
I have a barn with all aluminum siding and roof and dirt floor would it serve as a faraday cage if I grounded the sides with ground rods ??
I have a 30 yr old garden tractor should it start and run after a EMP attack ??
Thanks guys I have tried to research this stuff and I just can’t seem to get my head rapped around it .. :?:?

If your garden tractor has plugs and points, it should be fine. I have a new tractor, but there are NO electronics on it…it’s plugs and points, and hydraulics. It will still run, even after an emp. I made sure I got one without electronics for just that reason.

I agree with you, but I have a couple of questions.
First, how did you find a new tractor with point and plugs?
(I could possibly be interested in one of those)
And I am curious, why did you go with gasoline instead of diesel?

Tractor is diesel, NOT gas. Found the tractor at a local dealer. The brand is LS. (They’re the blue ones) It’s a 25HP (not overkill for our 19 acres, but NOT underpowered, either) I got a front-end loader and back hoe on it, as well.

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February 12, 2017 IceFire 0
TRex2 wrote:

IceFire wrote:

farmer_dude48 wrote:I have a couple of questions if anybody can help…
I have a barn with all aluminum siding and roof and dirt floor would it serve as a faraday cage if I grounded the sides with ground rods ??
I have a 30 yr old garden tractor should it start and run after a EMP attack ??
Thanks guys I have tried to research this stuff and I just can’t seem to get my head rapped around it .. :?:?

If your garden tractor has plugs and points, it should be fine. I have a new tractor, but there are NO electronics on it…it’s plugs and points, and hydraulics. It will still run, even after an emp. I made sure I got one without electronics for just that reason.

I agree with you, but I have a couple of questions.
First, how did you find a new tractor with point and plugs?
(I could possibly be interested in one of those)
And I am curious, why did you go with gasoline instead of diesel?

Tractor is diesel, NOT gas. Found the tractor at a local dealer. The brand is LS. (They’re the blue ones) It’s a 25HP (not overkill for our 19 acres, but NOT underpowered, either) I got a front-end loader and back hoe on it, as well.

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February 11, 2017 RayMac1963 0
anita wrote:
Here’s the reality: the democrats slow-walked Jeff Sessions’ vote, so the Dept of Justice didn’t have Trump’s person at the helm when they had to support the order. They ended up with two lower-level attorneys representing them (who knows how they were picked) but my guess is that they were actually obama hacks, with no interest in supporting Trump’s order. Those opposing the order judge-shopped–the 9th is the most liberal court in the country, and overturned about 80 % of the time. What’s chilling is how political the judicial branch has become. Sure, maybe the Trump folks should have realized what would happen, how politicized all of washington and the courts are. I think they are having a bit of a tough time realizing that those within the government don’t want to do what is best for the country.

That ad was sympathetic to immigrants. Sure there might have been a big door, but you didn’t see that in the ad on TV, you had to go to the website to see that. What was on TV was a “poor illegals” message.

Its chess, not checkers. IF you have to wait a week for your guy to get there and properly vet your plan rather then have all this, isn’t that worth it? Heck, get outside lawyers to review it. These mistakes shake confidence world wide when done at the hand of the POTUS. Reality is they F-ed up. Like it or not we have 3, branches of government, you have to play the long game.

And the 84 guys said they meant for the ad to support Trump. He talked about a “big beautiful door”. They had an ad with a big beautiful door. I just telling you what their rep said. Google it.

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February 11, 2017 TRex2 0
Would wrapping a plastic box in electrician’s tape work as a faraday cage?

No. The outer surface must conduct electricity. Metal is preferred. Multiple layers of metalic furnace tape around a plastic box would make a minimal faraday cage, as long as there aren’t any openings in the wrapping. (I would say at least three layers thickness everywhere, more wouldn’t hurt) I can’t see any advantage to doing it this way, instead of the metal trash can, unless you are tight on space or money.

IceFire wrote:

farmer_dude48 wrote:I have a couple of questions if anybody can help…
I have a barn with all aluminum siding and roof and dirt floor would it serve as a faraday cage if I grounded the sides with ground rods ??
I have a 30 yr old garden tractor should it start and run after a EMP attack ??
Thanks guys I have tried to research this stuff and I just can’t seem to get my head rapped around it .. :?:?

If your garden tractor has plugs and points, it should be fine. I have a new tractor, but there are NO electronics on it…it’s plugs and points, and hydraulics. It will still run, even after an emp. I made sure I got one without electronics for just that reason.

I agree with you, but I have a couple of questions.
First, how did you find a new tractor with point and plugs?
(I could possibly be interested in one of those)
And I am curious, why did you go with gasoline instead of diesel?

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February 11, 2017 IceFire 0
farmer_dude48 wrote:
I have a couple of questions if anybody can help…

I have a barn with all aluminum siding and roof and dirt floor would it serve as a faraday cage if I grounded the sides with ground rods ??

I have a 30 yr old garden tractor should it start and run after a EMP attack ??

Thanks guys I have tried to research this stuff and I just can’t seem to get my head rapped around it .. :?:?

If your garden tractor has plugs and points, it should be fine. I have a new tractor, but there are NO electronics on it…it’s plugs and points, and hydraulics. It will still run, even after an emp. I made sure I got one without electronics for just that reason.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:21 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 Blondie 0
Photon Guy wrote:
So I was thinking, President Trump has put a hold on immigration from certain countries in the middle east. If somebody from any of those countries wants to come to the USA they could simply go from their country to a country that isn’t banned from immigration to the USA and then from there go to the USA. For instance, lets say there’s somebody from Iraq, one of the countries that has an immigration hold on it, who wants to come to the USA. They could go to Saudi Arabia which does not have an immigration hold and from there go to the USA. So people could exploit that loophole by taking that extra step.

If you are an Iraqi, and say you’re lucky enough to get out alive and legally, you don’t just show up in another country. In your scenario, Saudi Arabia must issue you a visa to come to their country. Arriving in Saudi Arabia, they know you are Iraqi. To travel onto the US, legally, requires a visa issued before you set foot here.

Illegally, it’s another story. Phony docs may get you to Central America, bribing Customs along the way, you go North to Mexico & then into the US.

If you are an illegal and are caught, when questioned they will determine where you are from. Mannerisms, customs, language, slang, accents identify you.

A passport issued by your native country doesn’t allow you to leave, it allows you to come home! The “travel ban” mainly affected those had been in the US but were abroad and wanted to re-enter the US.

Statistics: Posted by Blondie — Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:15 pm


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February 11, 2017 JC1 0

I’ve got so many bloodlines I think of myself as Heinz 57. I’d rather have one true friend (I don’t care if they’re purple with pink poke-dots) than a dozen friends that are false. I’ll never understand people judging each other because of the color of their skin, their sexual preference, tax bracket or any other tag. I also will not respect (trust or respect) those that do.

In a TEOTWAWKI situation, trust and respect is everything.

Statistics: Posted by JC1 — Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:11 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 anita 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Chilling my (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth). If you KNOW the enemy is waiting, you don’t walk into the trap. Just a little better planing could have prevented this whole mess. Don’t just blame it on liberals. That a lazy excuse. Trump’s folks didn’t do the work. Its that simple. Of course there was going to be a legal challenge. Who didn’t see it coming.

and why are you complaining to 84? They were trump supporters. Their folks were on TV talking about the ad was in support of the wall and having a “big beautiful door for people to enter the right way” just like Trump said. THATS was the point of the ad. for people to come here right and they would be welcomed.

Here’s the reality: the democrats slow-walked Jeff Sessions’ vote, so the Dept of Justice didn’t have Trump’s person at the helm when they had to support the order. They ended up with two lower-level attorneys representing them (who knows how they were picked) but my guess is that they were actually obama hacks, with no interest in supporting Trump’s order. Those opposing the order judge-shopped–the 9th is the most liberal court in the country, and overturned about 80 % of the time. What’s chilling is how political the judicial branch has become. Sure, maybe the Trump folks should have realized what would happen, how politicized all of washington and the courts are. I think they are having a bit of a tough time realizing that those within the government don’t want to do what is best for the country.

That ad was sympathetic to immigrants. Sure there might have been a big door, but you didn’t see that in the ad on TV, you had to go to the website to see that. What was on TV was a “poor illegals” message.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:08 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Photon Guy wrote:
I believe 84 Lumber with their Super Bowl add was promoting legal immigration which Trump is not against. What Trump is against is illegal immigration which the wall is meant to stop but if people from other countries, including Mexico, go through the proper legal procedures to enter the country than Trump has no problem with that and with the door opening up in the wall I believe that’s what it symbolizes.

how the hell does that commercial represent legal immigration? …. that mother & daughter wet backs travel thru the desert wilderness to a remote non-entryway part of the border wall and look all pizzed that they can’t get thru or over …. presto they find the gate that the mexican carpenters built using 84 Lumber materials …

small surprise we have an immigration problem when a US citizen can’t recognize blatant leftist propaganda when it’s blasted full bore ….

you do know that legal immigration needs paperwork and travel on a bus or car to a border control point? … have someone try smacking some common sense between the ears ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:09 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 Photon Guy 0

I believe 84 Lumber with their Super Bowl add was promoting legal immigration which Trump is not against. What Trump is against is illegal immigration which the wall is meant to stop but if people from other countries, including Mexico, go through the proper legal procedures to enter the country than Trump has no problem with that and with the door opening up in the wall I believe that’s what it symbolizes.

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:20 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 RayMac1963 0
anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Chilling my (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth). If you KNOW the enemy is waiting, you don’t walk into the trap. Just a little better planing could have prevented this whole mess. Don’t just blame it on liberals. That a lazy excuse. Trump’s folks didn’t do the work. Its that simple. Of course there was going to be a legal challenge. Who didn’t see it coming.

and why are you complaining to 84? They were trump supporters. Their folks were on TV talking about the ad was in support of the wall and having a “big beautiful door for people to enter the right way” just like Trump said. THATS was the point of the ad. for people to come here right and they would be welcomed.

Statistics: Posted by RayMac1963 — Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:13 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 daaswampman 0

I would guess – the dog and pony show of the leftist courts, has gained the right – hundreds of thousands of votes in the next election. Unless you are a brain dead leftist, who cares about aliens from any of those nine countries? It can’t get any better, unless something happens that involves one of those poor green card holders! Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:28 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: John McAfee’s major cybersecurity predictions for 2017

February 11, 2017 daaswampman 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I unfortunately, think this is a given… It’s just a matter of when.

I agree with what he says completely if maybe only being a little off on the number of Multi-Billion dollar companies crushed by the data hacks. (not everyone’s success relies on anonymity for cheating on your spouse…lol.)

This will be the war of the future for tech based societies… power grid failure. Coupled with a denial of cell service and not a single bullet would have to be fired for millions to perish in the loss of services as they turn on each other. It’s crazy how dependent we’ve become on a 3 day supply of food…Mind boggling actually.

IP masking and redirection he mentions is simple for even me, a computer rookie. The masters would make it untraceable to original sourcing.

He really is one wacky dude, but a very smart wacky dude……SMH….

He really is one wacky dude, but a very smart wacky dude……SMH….

That sums it up! It will happen and what happens when it happens in the “CLOUD”? Sounds like an “all your eggs in one basket” situation! Sorry I forgot – the net was supposed to make us one huge connected loving family and all that! Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:08 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 10, 2017 anita 0
rickdun wrote:

anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Anita, Pittsburgh is very anti-trump, back in December 2016, they started looking into becoming a sanctuary city to boycot Trump’s win over HRC. I haven’t heard anything else about it, I googled it and only came up with previous sentence.

84 Lumber isn’t in Pittsburgh, it’s in Eighty-Four, right? I realize that’s about 20 miles from Pittsburgh, but so is my mother’s house, (going northwest). I can believe the city is anti-Trump, most are, but not the surrounding area. It’s my understanding where my brother and mother live (Butler and Beaver counties) are both pretty pro-Trump.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:14 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 10, 2017 rickdun 0
anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Anita, Pittsburgh is very anti-trump, back in December 2016, they started looking into becoming a sanctuary city to boycot Trump’s win over HRC. I haven’t heard anything else about it, I googled it and only came up with previous sentence.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:51 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 10, 2017 anita 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:38 pm