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February 14, 2017 Renerylee2 0

I’ve given it some thought and if it’s a long term disaster, I would not answer the door. I would,however, put a sign on the doors telling people not to break in the door thinking that I am not there or they will be shot. They’ve been told not to come to my house anyway. One who even believes hard times are ahead said “The Lord will provide”. I told her not to confuse me with the Lord.

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February 9, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
apache235 wrote:
If we get invaded by the Russians or Chinese all bets are off but I wouldn’t give them good odds as long as the US military was still in existence. The South Africa situation is just the opposite of here. 12% of the population is not going to run roughshod over the rest of us, especially out in the country where they might just stand out a bit. Their domain will be the cities. Home invasions are on the rise, but when resisted, the bad guys tend to lose – not all the time but for the most part they aren’t up for a firefight. I would think that folks in the country are more likely to stick together AND they have the knowledge necessary to survive. City dwellers and snowflakes, not so much. Stay in the city if you want to, it may just work out fine. Being in the midst of tens of thousands to millions of starving people is not my idea of a picnic however.

yet in the worst SHTF this country has ever experienced – other than the World Wars – The Great Depression – the cities attracted everyone looking for some kind of support – the countryside emptied out …. trend continued thru WW2 drawing in people for the defense jobs – modified slightly post war with the metro area expanse – still occurring today – the rural life shrinks more every year ….

the type of SHTF makes all the difference – you can’t call the same play on every down ….

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February 9, 2017 terrapin 0
apache235 wrote:
Please feel free to do what you feel is best, I am in no way trying to tell you to do something different, just expressing my opinion which you disagree with – that doesn’t make either of us right or wrong as none of us has a clue what will happen in this country since it hasn’t happened yet. As far as I’m concerned, this tinkling contest is done.

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February 9, 2017 apache235 0

Please feel free to do what you feel is best, I am in no way trying to tell you to do something different, just expressing my opinion which you disagree with – that doesn’t make either of us right or wrong as none of us has a clue what will happen in this country since it hasn’t happened yet. As far as I’m concerned, this tinkling contest is done.

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February 9, 2017 BK in KC 0
apache235 wrote:
If we get invaded by the Russians or Chinese all bets are off but I wouldn’t give them good odds as long as the US military was still in existence. The South Africa situation is just the opposite of here. 12% of the population is not going to run roughshod over the rest of us, especially out in the country where they might just stand out a bit. Their domain will be the cities. Home invasions are on the rise, but when resisted, the bad guys tend to lose – not all the time but for the most part they aren’t up for a firefight. I would think that folks in the country are more likely to stick together AND they have the knowledge necessary to survive. City dwellers and snowflakes, not so much. Stay in the city if you want to, it may just work out fine. Being in the midst of tens of thousands to millions of starving people is not my idea of a picnic however.

You clearly haven’t considered what happens in an economic collapse. The author of the first article lived through one, so I’ll take his advice over yours thanks. And you have exactly zero idea what my prepping situation is or BOL’s I may have prepped.

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February 9, 2017 apache235 0

If we get invaded by the Russians or Chinese all bets are off but I wouldn’t give them good odds as long as the US military was still in existence. The South Africa situation is just the opposite of here. 12% of the population is not going to run roughshod over the rest of us, especially out in the country where they might just stand out a bit. Their domain will be the cities. Home invasions are on the rise, but when resisted, the bad guys tend to lose – not all the time but for the most part they aren’t up for a firefight. I would think that folks in the country are more likely to stick together AND they have the knowledge necessary to survive. City dwellers and snowflakes, not so much. Stay in the city if you want to, it may just work out fine. Being in the midst of tens of thousands to millions of starving people is not my idea of a picnic however.

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February 8, 2017 BK in KC 0

I think too many rural people have an unrealistic sense of security. Below is a great article by Ferfal, an author and survivor of the Argentina collapse.

Real world SHTF: The Countryside is more Dangerous

One of the most commonly accepted misconceptions in the survival and preparedness community is that “once SHTF”, you “gotta get out of Dodge!”
It seems that not many people ask why and just accept this as an unquestionable fact, but those that do usually get a reply about cities being where most people are and therefore where problems will be worse. The logic here would be that more people=more problems. While this may be the case in some specific scenarios, those of us that have dedicated years of our lives to seriously study real disasters tend to have a different opinion, and the answer is: Its not that simple.

The best location to ride out a disaster, large or small, is directly linked to the type of disaster you are facing. In the case of war, widespread terrorism or uprisings, running to the countryside is probably the last thing you want to do.

In the case of an invading force moving across a country, both cities and more rural areas would be equally at risk. Ground troops moving forward will go through all buildings looking for enemies, scouts and spies and no survival retreat with armed occupants will present much of problem to anyone with mortar fire at their disposal. Anything that falls within the enemy occupation territory is at risk.

Different historic incidents such as the Bosnian war, involving an invading, foreign force, or the violence in South Africa, in this case a local threat, targeting farmers after the African National Congress rose to power, have shown us that the countryside isn’t always an idyllic safe place to be in when everything goes to hell.

Also of note is the plight of rural farmers in South Africa.

South African farmers fearing for their lives

Since the attack on Attie Potgieter and his family, the simple stone farmhouse where they lived has stood empty and crumbling, with nobody wanting to live in the home where one of South Africa’s most disturbingly brutal crimes took place.

Mr Potgieter, a farm caretaker, was stabbed and hacked 151 times with a garden fork, a knife and a machete near Lindley in the Free State – the agricultural heart of the country.

His wife, Wilna, and two-year-old daughter, Willemien, were both made to watch him die, before being shot in the head, execution style. All for pocket money, and possessions of relatively little value – a too-common story in South Africa’s rural areas, where mostly white Afrikaner farmers feel they are being targeted in gratuitously violent attacks on their remote farms and smallholdings. They accuse police and government of failing to make these crimes a priority. And as the horrifying murders continue, they are growing increasingly angry.

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The murder last weekend of British engineer Chris Preece, 54, who was born in Southgate in north London and found his dream on a piece of rolling farmland bordering Lesotho’s Maluti mountains, is the most recent farm killing to make headlines.

Mr Preece spent his weekdays working in Johannesburg before retreating to his beloved farm near the town of Ficksburg, where he and wife Felicity dreamed of starting a nature reserve to save raptor birds and cheetahs.

He was stabbed and hacked to death by men who stole just £210 and a mobile phone. Felicity was left severely traumatised with a skull fracture, and has not yet been able to talk about the attack from the Bloemfontein hospital in where she is being treated.

And these dangers aren’t just confined to so-called “third world” countries.

Home invasions hit rural Nevada County

Authorities are searching for at least three armed and dangerous males allegedly responsible for a series of home invasions and armed robberies that resulted in exchanges of gunfire, a stolen vehicle, and a dog that was shot during two incidents Friday and Saturday morning.

According to police logs, the first incident occurred Friday morning at 6:30 a.m. on the 17000 block of Black Forest Road in Penn Valley where at least three men armed with handguns conducted a home invasion, handcuffed the occupants and held them at gunpoint before stealing their vehicle and fleeing the scene.

The assailants were asking where the guns of the victims were located though it is unknown whether or not they left with any.

The stolen vehicle was later recovered unoccupied in the Pleasant Valley/Indian Springs area and was returned to the owner.

The suspects were described as wearing black ops masks, dark clothing, and black gloves.

The second incident occurred Saturday morning at 12:27 a.m. on the 18000 block of Backwoods Road east of North San Juan, and also involved three males, all seen wearing ski masks and black hoodies.

Two were identified as white males and two had black pistols, and upon arriving to the victim’s property, ordered an adult son to the ground where his hands were zip tied.

The suspects fired two shots first and shot the victim’s dog which alerted the owner of the property, who was armed, and proceeded to exchange fire with the suspects who left the scene in a newer 2014-2015 black Dodge Ram with a camper shell, logs state.

The suspects had parked their vehicle about 20 feet behind the victim’s vehicles in the driveway and fired their weapons as they backed out the same way they came in.

It is unclear, though, if the two incidents are related.

Be dismissive of these real life examples at your own peril.

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February 8, 2017 Gunns 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

apache235 wrote:Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

I don’t sign up to your Mad Max scenario. Most of the violence will happen in the cities. City folk coming to the country to sack it will be dealt with pretty quickly. The City folk would have to be an Army to be effective.

If we are fighting everywhere all the time, its hopeless might as well swallow a bullet.

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February 8, 2017 KazKaz 0

New to the forum.
Just noticed this thread.
My belief is that the variables of the precipitating event will dictate individual decisions to opportunities that may arise.
Given an EMP type scenario where the situation is known to be temporary, and the members of the compound are secure in the ability of the crops to more than sustain an adequate quality of life for the foreseeable future?
I see no harm in accepting new members, as long as they have proven their worth by surviving on their own for the first week or two.
In an urban setting? Different story. I can’t even begin to imagine the anarchy of desperation that would prevail.
In the midst of something like a volcanic eruption event that will diminish the capacity of the compound to sustain itself until crops can be harvested again? Different story.
In the end, it is all situational.
I believe that is what gives an advantage to the far rural camps. The harder you are to find, the weak will be less likely to come knocking.
Having a retreat several days walking distance from major cities will provide a buffer that preserves the sanity of those who will be faced with the exact same choice to make closer to civilization.
Prepping is all about survival. Survival dictates the minimization of potential liabilities.
If a stranger offers something deemed – by the group – to be of equal value to barter with, a deal can be made that strengthens the integrity of the camp, rather than compromising it.
Of course, the question becomes.. what if they have absolutely nothing to offer?
Let’s not go there.
The breakdown of civilization will be a very ugly and immoral place.

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February 8, 2017 terrapin 0

Illini…

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

Yep…
maybe two by two…
maybe six by six…

don’t underestimate…

terp

Reb
“Worms gotta eat”, Clint Eastwood as Josey Wales :gunshooting

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As do buzzards…
terp

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February 8, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
Defcon09 wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:

apache235 wrote:Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

Must not know much about farms and farm life. Most likely you will be much SAFER, key word – safer on a farm (big piece of property) generally located several miles away from the city. Now if I was in search of provisions I’d chose the easiest sources generally found in apartment complexes and the like. I can cover more ground in less time. As my provisions dwindle and they are harder to find I move to the rural areas to search. Now, I should know that there is more open space out there and I can be spotted quicker by the ones protecting their provisions, more like to be shot and killed. Once I get out in the farm land I am probably walking because gas supplies are depleted, takes longer to get around, have to carry my spoils on my person instead of in a car or truck. Man this sucks……………I go find another city. The person on a 100 acre farm can spot an intruder earlier and can get you lined up in his 9x scope on his 308 sniper rifle – what more can be said?

Exactly. City people have no idea how easy they are to spot. Their body language is a dead giveaway. So called “raiders” would first have to deal with several thousand well armed locals before they got anywhere close to me. Raiders will be swiftly dealt with.

Reb
“Worms gotta eat”, Clint Eastwood as Josey Wales :gunshooting:

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February 8, 2017 Defcon09 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

apache235 wrote:Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

Must not know much about farms and farm life. Most likely you will be much SAFER, key word – safer on a farm (big piece of property) generally located several miles away from the city. Now if I was in search of provisions I’d chose the easiest sources generally found in apartment complexes and the like. I can cover more ground in less time. As my provisions dwindle and they are harder to find I move to the rural areas to search. Now, I should know that there is more open space out there and I can be spotted quicker by the ones protecting their provisions, more like to be shot and killed. Once I get out in the farm land I am probably walking because gas supplies are depleted, takes longer to get around, have to carry my spoils on my person instead of in a car or truck. Man this sucks……………I go find another city. The person on a 100 acre farm can spot an intruder earlier and can get you lined up in his 9x scope on his 308 sniper rifle – what more can be said?

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February 7, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
apache235 wrote:
Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

and when raiders start attacking isolated farm places that’ll make you safe how? …. or will you be another Jeremiah Johnson fighting off the Indians one by one …

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February 7, 2017 apache235 0

Staying in town is an invitation to disaster. At some point someone will notice that you aren’t starving and they will come. They will come when you least expect it or when you do or both. They will come and they will prevail. Tornado, EQ, storm, whatever, sure help out. Grid down, get as far away from people as you can to a secure location that you have stocked with the necessities to keep you and yours alive for the duration – which may be years. Saying NO is easy if there is no one to say no to.

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February 6, 2017 Matte 0

Two battery holders like this would fit in the case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-0-Volt-DC-Bat … 2018937421 Just connect the black wire on one holder to the red wire on the other, then the remaining black and red from each holder to the +/- on the transmitter.

Mil spec/mil std reliability for a reasonable cost would be great. They’re 95% as is imo, but better weather proofing, a built in programmable relay, and external jacks for power and relay contacts, and being able to program your own alert message(s) maybe.

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February 5, 2017 hancockcounty 0

Matte,

Thanks for the article link. Very in depth. I’m pretty sure that the circuit boards are the same from the picture on your link. I did not know that I could not use 6 rechargable batterries in it. That is what i planned to do at some point soon. Do you know how i can find the 4 AA battery connectors to convert them? I don’t know much about wiring but should be able to figure out how to wire the two groups of four batteries together easy enough i guess.
To bad they didn’t make these to be “mil spec” with 20 zones and more rugged huh…

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February 5, 2017 Matte 0

Congrats, I’m a fan of them as well. You may find this article helpful: http://modernsurvivalonline.com/mat-mod … ansmitter/

Still running a couple of mine off ~12v since that article was written without any problems or failures. My oldest MAT is about 10 years old now and still works, the MURS HT I bought at the same time has been bulletproof as well even with some fairly regular abuse by kids.

I know Dakota Alert changed the recorded alert messages to a woman’s voice in recent years, if the boards in your MATs are different than the ones in the article I’d appreciate seeing a pic of them if possible. Thanks and good luck with them.

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February 4, 2017 hancockcounty 0

So i have installed the Dakota Alert last night and earlier today i did have my alert walkie talkie go off and alert me that someone had crossed it’s path… it was just a realtor at the house that’s been for sale for like the last 4+ years. But it works great. When i installed it on the tree i did check to see if it worked when i walked by, and yes it works great when a walker by passes the sensor. I even have it about 15 feet back from the road and there are some smaller branches in the way a few feet forward from the sensor to help block others from seeing it. I will probably spray paint it a greyish color to camouflage it for shtf scenario as a black box on a tree even if set back would be seen by those use to seeing game cams in the woods like hunters. Enjoy :thumbup:

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February 1, 2017 hancockcounty 0

You’re welcome. I will give more feed back soon as to how well it works. I live far down a dirt road and have people snooping around and thought this would help to know when anyone crosses the point of entry. I bought 4 of them for shtf that i will use in different places to help know if people cross through the woods. It will pick up deer also. I will use one full time to help out now pre shtf and get use to it and ward off the unwanted. :tank:

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February 1, 2017 hancockcounty 0

http://www.gadgetshack.com/all-categori … FsxavkrI2w

Thought id share this. Its essentially a game camera that doesn’t take a picture but notifies a walkie talkie with a 2 mile range. It will also work in tandum with 4 units telling you if someone crosses path 1, 2, 3, or 4. I think that this will be extremely helpful for small groups defending themselves. Don’t forget to get plenty of rechargable aa batteries or they wont work 8)

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January 26, 2017 oldasrocks 0

I agree with cowboy. Sense shooting I call it or seeing through your fingertips. You won’t always have time to sight something in and need to learn how to snap shoot. Being able to draw and fire from the hip may save your life. I’ve dropped a lot of running rabbits this way. I’ve missed even more but over time it gets better.

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January 25, 2017 Myakka 0

This is sort of off topic but I think relates.

I learned to shoot at night from an old cowboy. We were camping in a large group on the family’s ranch. The gang had been target practicing all day and the young men were talking sh!t the whole time. When it got dark they quit shooting. “Cowboy” (that was his name I swear….) asked them if they were ready for a challenge. He went out and hung a paper plate. We could barely make it out. Then he went back to where we were standing in the complete darkness. He pulled his six gun and shot the center out of the plate.

We were pretty impressed. We tried and of course guys were laughing and complaining about not being able to use their sites.

Then he told us to point at the plate with our finger. “If you can point at it, you can shoot it.” he said. So I spent the rest of the night learning how to point a pistol without sites.

I think practicing this is every bit as valid and important as practicing formal “target shooting” techniques. I still think you need to work on your stances, and framing, but most bad stuff happens in the dark anyway, so you should practice for it.

In fact, continuing that last thought…… seems like the only time my friends want to put rounds down range is on bright sunny low wind days….

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January 25, 2017 Fullmoon 0

Like you, I have never been able to re-train myself for new procedures to use a new optic/sight system. I learned one way and its etched into my sub conscious brain matter for ever. This sight may be a good thing for new people who are just learning to shoot, its a good idea and looks well made but overcoming old habits, at least for me, ain’t gonna cut it. This sight principal is similar in concept to combat shooting but in reverse, eliminating the sight alignment/sight picture target shooting concept and just using the front sight, looking down the slide and placing the front sight on the target. Its fast, its accurate and in a manure hits the fan type of situation there is no time for proper sight alignment.

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January 25, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Looking for input and hands on opinions here…

I’ve never looked forward to milling my slide for an optic and dealing with special holsters. While I can see the benefits of a raised optic for one hand racking it’s just not been something I’ve been willing to do thus far…

Enter the metrolight FT Bullseye… http://www.themakogroup.com/optics/ftbull.html

Lots of Youtube reviews but I don’t trust those from the reviewers I’ve seen thus far. But heres one for reference from NRA.(seems unbiased but not determining) .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RD4aJIHWoLyg4&v=vvFUO4vrsEM

After years of training on front site acquisition it seem this is going to be a Mindf$#k to retrain myself to rear site target acquisition….What about dropping this weapon and picking up another without it and then back again? Accuracy is going to suffer, correct?

I really like the non milled slide option and am seeing varying opinions from happy to great, but was wondering here what y’all might think.. At $200 just looking for more input before pulling the trigger….Anyone have hands on with it? Opinions?….Thanks!

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January 20, 2017 kappydell 0
daaswampman wrote:
Duluth is good and expensive! Dickies or any other work clothes will do! I avoid hunting cloths or camo as it is associated with having guns and ammo. Same for surplus military. Swamp

Plus, dickies get softer with continuous washing, and last for years. You can order them from the Dickie store in many colors, different pockets, etc. And yes, as swampie sez, they are associated with workmen, not military types, so they work very, very, well for living gray. My husband swore by them for years, and got me hooked on wearing them (yes, they make them for women, but choice is limited, so I go with the men’s). They can be pressed to look very good but not required as they are permanent press. Just look for the 50% cotton clothing, it is a trifle more comfy (it breathes) than the 100% polyester, they have both kinds.
Their light jackets are especially nice and sturdy.

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January 19, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Worn all, finally went to BlackHawk od green multi pockets. For uniformed.

The problem I have with 5.11s and such, is every poser out their wears them, a polo with some catchy innuendo, boots. I wore them daily for work, didn’t find them to be very durable. In fairness my turf was rock y volcanic rock country, that spreads everything.

The very last thing I want to portray is who I am, and what I stand fore and believe. Dickies, and Duluth are great stuff, all are good choices. Life’s about choices.

Dirk

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January 14, 2017 Fyrediver 0

My favorite duty pants are from Tru-Spec. The 24-7 series specifically. You can get them in cotton or poly blend. I wear shorts off duty from the same series. Functional, comfortable, durable, breathable. My Lt. wears the same pants and he’s got massive thighs. Definitely more snug on him than on me.

http://www.truspec.com/24-7-series/pant … cal-pants/

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January 14, 2017 arkieready 0
oldasrocks wrote:
Just wear a Kilt.

Oh yeah! I know men who do wear a kilt. One is an old biker guy. One is in an unlikely trade to see a kilt. (Construction). One bad thing is, some billy-bad-arse is gonna have a beer too many and wanna fight the guy in a skirt. On the other hand, the ladies may be quite intrigued. Personally, I like it. Oh my gosh, isn’t it much nicer than skinny jeans. Gag.

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January 13, 2017 RayMac1963 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I can vouch for 5.11……Really good fit, durable, mobility on the range in all sorts of courses/IDPA/3-gun/Kill house comp etc….Hiking too.

Lbs. for Lbs., fit for function, best spent $$$ IMHO…

Then again, they’re also know amongst lots of shooters as the “Shoot me first” pants…… If your in a gunfight and see someone in 5.11’s, you better shoot them first….lol

i second Driven’s statement. 5.11 is most of my training and SHTF clothes. I also would look hard at what the hikers and backpackers use. Been looking at what the thru hikers that do the Appalachian trail here use. They focus on light, durable, flexible gear and clothing. I kind of take a look at how i dress this issue here…

http://urbanprepperdiary.blogspot.com/2 … world.html

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January 13, 2017 RayMac1963 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I can vouch for 5.11……Really good fit, durable, mobility on the range in all sorts of courses/IDPA/3-gun/Kill house comp etc….Hiking too.

Lbs. for Lbs., fit for function, best spent $$$ IMHO…

Then again, they’re also know amongst lots of shooters as the “Shoot me first” pants…… If your in a gunfight and see someone in 5.11’s, you better shoot them first….lol

i second Driven’s statement. 5.11 is most of my training and SHTF clothes. I also would look hard at what the hikers and backpackers use. Been looking at what the thru hikers that do the Appalachian trail here use. They focus on light, durable, flexible gear and clothing. I kind of take a look at how i dress this issue here…

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Statistics: Posted by RayMac1963 — Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:54 am


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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Prepper Clothing

January 13, 2017 handyman777 0

Stated earlier, Duluth looks good and some day I will get a pair of there “Fire Hose Pants”.
$$$ pricey yes, —A Pair— just to try and see how they work.

Not crazy about buying clothes on line. I prefer the touchy / feely thing.

For now carhart is my No. 1 hunting clothes. I’ll get a size larger and layer if needed. Makes for easier movement. and they do come in all different colors.

Some of the price’s don’t seem to differ that much between duluth and carhart, but carhart is available at many stores near me and tractor supply.
just my 2 cents.

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:14 am


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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Prepper Clothing

January 13, 2017 handyman777 0

Stated earlier, Duluth looks good and some day I will get a pair of there “Fire Hose Pants”.
$$$ pricey yes, —A Pair— just to try and see how they work.

Not crazy about buying clothes on line. I prefer the touchy / feely thing.

For now carhart is my No. 1 hunting clothes. I’ll get a size larger and layer if needed. Makes for easier movement. and they do come in all different colors.

Some of the price’s don’t seem to differ that much between duluth and carhart, but carhart is available at many stores near me and tractor supply.
just my 2 cents.

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:14 am