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Statistics: Posted by whitu10 — Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:17 am

My review of the SOG Survival Hawk is over.
I really like it. I think its a must have in your BOV,UTV, or even a BOB. I’ve used it for everything its was intended for, and more. Its not a,throwing Hawk, but I practiced with it, and it can work ok. If the blade didn’t stick in the wood the spike/nail puller would. Also the Fero rod didn’t break during any of the impacts. In fact the Ferro Rod is still in good shape even after I’ve made sparks during 3 outings.
The Hawk will chop through green Maple, Pine, Poplar, and Holly trees. That’s all I tested with diameters of 6″ or less. It makes,pretty large chips when chopping.
I mentioned earlier, that this Hawk may replace my fixed blades. I don’t think that way anymore. This Hawk is not a replacement for a good fixed blade. You just need a good fixed blade in the bush. I will definitely keep this Hawk close by. In hand to hand combat it rules over a knife, and pretty much anyone can swing a Hawk, and do damage.

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Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:16 pm

My review of the SOG Survival Hawk is over.
I really like it. I think its a must have in your BOV,UTV, or even a BOB. I’ve used it for everything its was intended for, and more. Its not a,throwing Hawk, but I practiced with it, and it can work ok. If the blade didn’t stick in the wood the spike/nail puller would. Also the Fero rod didn’t break during any of the impacts. In fact the Ferro Rod is still in good shape even after I’ve made sparks during 3 outings.
The Hawk will chop through green Maple, Pine, Poplar, and Holly trees. That’s all I tested with diameters of 6″ or less. It makes,pretty large chips when chopping.
I mentioned earlier, that this Hawk may replace my fixed blades. I don’t think that way anymore. This Hawk is not a replacement for a good fixed blade. You just need a good fixed blade in the bush. I will definitely keep this Hawk close by. In hand to hand combat it rules over a knife, and pretty much anyone can swing a Hawk, and do damage.

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Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:16 pm

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:52 pm

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:52 pm

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:52 pm

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Try that Ferro cerium rod yet?

That looked to break a few timeS…..careful with it….

(lol…JuSt noticed my lower caSe “S” iS not working on my keyboard for Some reason….weird. I have to uSe capS for it to appear without opening a window like itS been assigned aS Some Sort of hotkey for opening a HP Support Window for my chipSet …. Great…. this iS going to be fun…lol)

Oh heck yes this rod will break. There’s a you tube video on it.
I’ve used it 3 times without breaking it
The ferro rod is a nice touch/gimmick, but I definitely didn’t buy this Hawk because it had a .25 cent Rambo fire starter in it. :-). I would have preferred some kind of sharpening steel instead. Oh well when I’m in charge at SOG there’s going to be some big changes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:04 pm

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Try that Ferro cerium rod yet?

That looked to break a few timeS…..careful with it….

(lol…JuSt noticed my lower caSe “S” iS not working on my keyboard for Some reason….weird. I have to uSe capS for it to appear without opening a window like itS been assigned aS Some Sort of hotkey for opening a HP Support Window for my chipSet …. Great…. this iS going to be fun…lol)

Oh heck yes this rod will break. There’s a you tube video on it.
I’ve used it 3 times without breaking it
The ferro rod is a nice touch/gimmick, but I definitely didn’t buy this Hawk because it had a .25 cent Rambo fire starter in it. :-). I would have preferred some kind of sharpening steel instead. Oh well when I’m in charge at SOG there’s going to be some big changes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:04 pm

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Try that Ferro cerium rod yet?

That looked to break a few timeS…..careful with it….

(lol…JuSt noticed my lower caSe “S” iS not working on my keyboard for Some reason….weird. I have to uSe capS for it to appear without opening a window like itS been assigned aS Some Sort of hotkey for opening a HP Support Window for my chipSet …. Great…. this iS going to be fun…lol)

Oh heck yes this rod will break. There’s a you tube video on it.
I’ve used it 3 times without breaking it
The ferro rod is a nice touch/gimmick, but I definitely didn’t buy this Hawk because it had a .25 cent Rambo fire starter in it. :-). I would have preferred some kind of sharpening steel instead. Oh well when I’m in charge at SOG there’s going to be some big changes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:04 pm

ssssssssssss…….HA!!! fixed it with a quick internet search. HP support center created a shortcut into itself assigning the letter “s”….That would have been frustrating to no end.

In case anyone runs into that issue go to start window….right click “HP support” (It might be under “all programs” if not right there)….click the “Shortcut” tab…..Delete any shortcut typed there.(Mine said it was “ALT+SHIFT+S” but only “s” was triggering it)…..apply changes and save…..Viola!

Sorry for the tech interrupt on your thread but this might help a random person.
let us know if the fire rod breaks…..NBD but curious if it happens on yours too.

Thanks again for the review mountain.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:34 am

Try that Ferro cerium rod yet?

That looked to break a few timeS…..careful with it….

(lol…JuSt noticed my lower caSe “S” iS not working on my keyboard for Some reason….weird. I have to uSe capS for it to appear without opening a window like itS been assigned aS Some Sort of hotkey for opening a HP Support Window for my chipSet …. Great…. this iS going to be fun…lol)

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:21 am

Im a CRKT hawk with the hammer end kinda guy. I have a Gurka and swinging it is easier for a day than the hawk but that’s me.

Statistics: Posted by woodchipper518 — Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:17 pm

Im a CRKT hawk with the hammer end kinda guy. I have a Gurka and swinging it is easier for a day than the hawk but that’s me.

Statistics: Posted by woodchipper518 — Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:17 pm

bacpacker1513 wrote:
Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Yeah thanks, and i agree with you. Your Hawk seems to work for you, and that’s great.
I’m not brand loyal, although I do have several folders,and fixed blade SOG’s. Lots of other brands as well. I really wanted to find out for myself if a Survival Tomahawk would be of use to me; 1st for using around my property, secondly to actually see if this type of Hawk would be a good addition to my BOV,BOB, and my SXS. If it turns out that I find its a good tool to have, I may invest in a custom Hawk.
I think I may have a Hawk problem like I do for Knifes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:24 pm

bacpacker1513 wrote:
Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Yeah thanks, and i agree with you. Your Hawk seems to work for you, and that’s great.
I’m not brand loyal, although I do have several folders,and fixed blade SOG’s. Lots of other brands as well. I really wanted to find out for myself if a Survival Tomahawk would be of use to me; 1st for using around my property, secondly to actually see if this type of Hawk would be a good addition to my BOV,BOB, and my SXS. If it turns out that I find its a good tool to have, I may invest in a custom Hawk.
I think I may have a Hawk problem like I do for Knifes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:24 pm

bacpacker1513 wrote:
Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Yeah thanks, and i agree with you. Your Hawk seems to work for you, and that’s great.
I’m not brand loyal, although I do have several folders,and fixed blade SOG’s. Lots of other brands as well. I really wanted to find out for myself if a Survival Tomahawk would be of use to me; 1st for using around my property, secondly to actually see if this type of Hawk would be a good addition to my BOV,BOB, and my SXS. If it turns out that I find its a good tool to have, I may invest in a custom Hawk.
I think I may have a Hawk problem like I do for Knifes.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:24 pm

Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Statistics: Posted by bacpacker1513 — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:42 am

Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Statistics: Posted by bacpacker1513 — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:42 am

Good review. I’ve looked at these, but since I have a Cold Steel hawk with the hammer poll I’ll probably stick with it. Works well for everything I have used it on so far. But then again a body does need a back up. I’m more of a bushcraft kinda guy as well.

Statistics: Posted by bacpacker1513 — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:42 am

I”m still evaluating this Hawk. As for chopping small branches out of your way; its better than a large fixed blade, better than a full size Hatchet, but not as good as a Gurka, or a Machete. The reason I say its better than a Hatchet is purely its size and weight.
To split larger wood pieces, I would just drive the Hawks blade deep, and then take a good strong branch and pound on the full tang spine. Since the blade is thin, it just goes right through it . its not easy, but it works.
It does have a hammer face (2), but if your working in close it would no doubt be more difficult than a Hawk with a dedicated hammer end. its also not balanced for this kind of work which makes it uncomfortable to use has a hammer. pounding in some stakes on the ground will work good. So far my fixed blades are lonely, when i go in the Bush.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:31 am

I”m still evaluating this Hawk. As for chopping small branches out of your way; its better than a large fixed blade, better than a full size Hatchet, but not as good as a Gurka, or a Machete. The reason I say its better than a Hatchet is purely its size and weight.
To split larger wood pieces, I would just drive the Hawks blade deep, and then take a good strong branch and pound on the full tang spine. Since the blade is thin, it just goes right through it . its not easy, but it works.
It does have a hammer face (2), but if your working in close it would no doubt be more difficult than a Hawk with a dedicated hammer end. its also not balanced for this kind of work which makes it uncomfortable to use has a hammer. pounding in some stakes on the ground will work good. So far my fixed blades are lonely, when i go in the Bush.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:31 am

I”m still evaluating this Hawk. As for chopping small branches out of your way; its better than a large fixed blade, better than a full size Hatchet, but not as good as a Gurka, or a Machete. The reason I say its better than a Hatchet is purely its size and weight.
To split larger wood pieces, I would just drive the Hawks blade deep, and then take a good strong branch and pound on the full tang spine. Since the blade is thin, it just goes right through it . its not easy, but it works.
It does have a hammer face (2), but if your working in close it would no doubt be more difficult than a Hawk with a dedicated hammer end. its also not balanced for this kind of work which makes it uncomfortable to use has a hammer. pounding in some stakes on the ground will work good. So far my fixed blades are lonely, when i go in the Bush.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:31 am

I’m using the CRKT hawk with the hammer end ( I’m more of a bush craft ) . I don’t know how I made it before my hawk? Oh yah a big (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) knife. Anyway, way more functional. the hammer end works well for splitting kindling when hit with a dead-blow hammer.

Statistics: Posted by Cumberland — Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:34 pm

I’m using the CRKT hawk with the hammer end ( I’m more of a bush craft ) . I don’t know how I made it before my hawk? Oh yah a big (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) knife. Anyway, way more functional. the hammer end works well for splitting kindling when hit with a dead-blow hammer.

Statistics: Posted by Cumberland — Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:34 pm

Tested it out some yesterday and today. I tried splitting a half round of Poplar. I managed to do it in about 20 strikes. The blade is thin, the Hawk is lite. It will bury the face of the cutting edge in the wood. Not great for splitting, but the penetration for such a lightweight Hawk is impressive.
Next I tried making some wood spear tips. Since the SOG is lite, and very maneuverable it makes this process real easy. Put your thumb on the backbone of the full tang, and you can get a close grip on the cutting edge and make some very nice. Precision cuts. I really like this. It makes good fire starting chips Quick. Did I mention when carrying with the included sheath is very comfortable. As far as deploying it in a hurry. Forget about it. The sheath is horrible. It does have some eyelets on it to attach to your pack or gear. I’ll no doubt do this, and make a custom sheath for it.
Anyway I’m liking it so far.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:15 pm

Tested it out some yesterday and today. I tried splitting a half round of Poplar. I managed to do it in about 20 strikes. The blade is thin, the Hawk is lite. It will bury the face of the cutting edge in the wood. Not great for splitting, but the penetration for such a lightweight Hawk is impressive.
Next I tried making some wood spear tips. Since the SOG is lite, and very maneuverable it makes this process real easy. Put your thumb on the backbone of the full tang, and you can get a close grip on the cutting edge and make some very nice. Precision cuts. I really like this. It makes good fire starting chips Quick. Did I mention when carrying with the included sheath is very comfortable. As far as deploying it in a hurry. Forget about it. The sheath is horrible. It does have some eyelets on it to attach to your pack or gear. I’ll no doubt do this, and make a custom sheath for it.
Anyway I’m liking it so far.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:15 pm

Hmmm……Looks fun!

I had to look that one up….Really light option.

$30 bucks….seems like a good deal.

Let us know how it works out after some use….

Congrats Mountain.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:50 am

Hmmm……Looks fun!

I had to look that one up….Really light option.

$30 bucks….seems like a good deal.

Let us know how it works out after some use….

Congrats Mountain.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:50 am

Just got a new SOG Survival Hawk, and I’ve been using it around the property, and I really like it. I believe I’d carry this instead of a large fixed blade, especially for everyday work,protection, and anything else that might come my way. I’m always in the woods, so ya never know.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:47 pm

Just got a new SOG Survival Hawk, and I’ve been using it around the property, and I really like it. I believe I’d carry this instead of a large fixed blade, especially for everyday work,protection, and anything else that might come my way. I’m always in the woods, so ya never know.

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:47 pm

CastIron, I forgot to mention the coyote hunts. Seems like all the sportsman clubs around the area have coyotes hunts, crow hunts, groundhog hunts, etc..

Money prizes for the biggest, most shot, etc.. Have been to many of them.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:34 pm

Who the heck thought that was a good idea?

I agree with RickDun.

I know in some areas out in the West they have coy competitions.
In the summer, every year, I wake up from a dead sleep to the sound of coy howling in the not so far distance.
Once, while the wife and I were moving the cows, late one afternoon, early evening, heard a pack close by. Like still on our property, quarter mile close. Enough to make your hair stand on end.

Statistics: Posted by Cast Iron — Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:44 pm

Who the heck thought that was a good idea?

I agree with RickDun.

I know in some areas out in the West they have coy competitions.
In the summer, every year, I wake up from a dead sleep to the sound of coy howling in the not so far distance.
Once, while the wife and I were moving the cows, late one afternoon, early evening, heard a pack close by. Like still on our property, quarter mile close. Enough to make your hair stand on end.

Statistics: Posted by Cast Iron — Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:44 pm

Do like they did in the mid 1800’s to mid 1900’s, but a bounty on the predators, eliminate the chemicals all together.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:49 pm

Do like they did in the mid 1800’s to mid 1900’s, but a bounty on the predators, eliminate the chemicals all together.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:49 pm

I found this story earlier:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/05/cy … s-use.html

The parents of an Idaho boy injured by a government-planted cyanide “bomb” have filed a petition calling on the White House to ban the controversial devices, used for decades by the Agriculture Department to control predators.

Here are the specifics on the device:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_%28cyanide_device%29

Doubt these are used in my area, but I was surprised a hazardous chemical agent like cyanide would be deployed for pest management in a projectile form, almost like a landmine. As the top story proves, the public can be exposed. Or someone with ill-intent could get access to these items.

Personally I think chemical projectors should be banned and instead more traditional methods should be used to cull predatory species. But while they remain in use, this could be a hazard to watch out for in a SHTF future, especially if the spider hole crowd or others re-purpose it.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:31 pm

I found this story earlier:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/05/cy … s-use.html

The parents of an Idaho boy injured by a government-planted cyanide “bomb” have filed a petition calling on the White House to ban the controversial devices, used for decades by the Agriculture Department to control predators.

Here are the specifics on the device:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_%28cyanide_device%29

Doubt these are used in my area, but I was surprised a hazardous chemical agent like cyanide would be deployed for pest management in a projectile form, almost like a landmine. As the top story proves, the public can be exposed. Or someone with ill-intent could get access to these items.

Personally I think chemical projectors should be banned and instead more traditional methods should be used to cull predatory species. But while they remain in use, this could be a hazard to watch out for in a SHTF future, especially if the spider hole crowd or others re-purpose it.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:31 pm