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September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
ReadyMom wrote:

Floridaclipper wrote:There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. …

Yea. The Weather Channel can get one of those awards, too! Was watching Fox, this morning, and as the reporter is talking about the 2ft of water that was rolling down the street, a SUV came rolling through …

Is this the same Fox Reporter that was standing in water above his knees next to rushing water going down the street as the storm surge rolled in? And then walked out, several steps, towards the moving water…

I think several of them are taking way too much risk.

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September 10, 2017 ReadyMom 0
Floridaclipper wrote:
There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. I saw a video yesterday of someone in key west trying to take a selfie in front of the ocean. He was washed away. He did survive.

Yea. The Weather Channel can get one of those awards, too! Was watching Fox, this morning, and as the reporter is talking about the 2ft of water that was rolling down the street, a SUV came rolling through the water. They mentioned how crazy is this. Then realized it was the Weather Channel guy. AND he was on the phone as he was sloshing through the water! You could see the car rocking by the heavy wind & water! BTW: isn’t it the Weather Channel the folks who kept rolling that bit showing the meteorologist with the graphic of a car in rising water and what it looks like every few feet with the car floating, signs & stuff floating, the car rocking & they are telling you the whole time NOT to go in rising water?? :glare::bored::blink:

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September 10, 2017 ReadyMom 0
Floridaclipper wrote:
There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. I saw a video yesterday of someone in key west trying to take a selfie in front of the ocean. He was washed away. He did survive.

Yea. The Weather Channel can get one of those awards, too! Was watching Fox, this morning, and as the reporter is talking about the 2ft of water that was rolling down the street, a SUV came rolling through the water. They mentioned how crazy is this. Then realized it was the Weather Channel guy. AND he was on the phone as he was sloshing through the water! You could see the car rocking by the heavy wind & water! BTW: isn’t it the Weather Channel the folks who kept rolling that bit showing the meteorologist with the graphic of a car in rising water and what it looks like every few feet with the car floating, signs & stuff floating, the car rocking & they are telling you the whole time NOT to go in rising water?? :glare::bored::blink:

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September 10, 2017 anita 0
Floridaclipper wrote:
There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. I saw a video yesterday of someone in key west trying to take a selfie in front of the ocean. He was washed away. He did survive.

I made contact with a HAM in Ft Myers about 3 this morning. The waves were at 31 ft at that point. Yikes! They are expecting the full impact of the storm in that area. I’m farther north in central fl about 30 miles inland. Mandatory evacuations for mobile and modular homes. Going into work it appeared compliance was an issue. In my area we are expecting significant impact. Winds of 110 mph and flooding from a river. I’m far from the river and not expecting flooding. I am expecting a lot of tree damage but I have removed all the ones close to the house over the years. We’ll be on the right side of the storm so hopefully I won’t have to deal with a tornado. My employer thinks we may be able to reopen for business Monday afternoon :) I’m thinking I’m not going to make it in. There’s no way they will have the roads cleared etc by then. Travel is usually very restricted after these types of events. So long as the house is not damaged (I do not expect issues) I’ll be fine but it sure is not pleasant waiting these storms out.

And I saw a video of a guy headed out to surf!

Stay safe!

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September 10, 2017 Floridaclipper 0

There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. I saw a video yesterday of someone in key west trying to take a selfie in front of the ocean. He was washed away. He did survive.

I made contact with a HAM in Ft Myers about 3 this morning. The waves were at 31 ft at that point. Yikes! They are expecting the full impact of the storm in that area. I’m farther north in central fl about 30 miles inland. Mandatory evacuations for mobile and modular homes. Going into work it appeared compliance was an issue. In my area we are expecting significant impact. Winds of 110 mph and flooding from a river. I’m far from the river and not expecting flooding. I am expecting a lot of tree damage but I have removed all the ones close to the house over the years. We’ll be on the right side of the storm so hopefully I won’t have to deal with a tornado. My employer thinks we may be able to reopen for business Monday afternoon :) I’m thinking I’m not going to make it in. There’s no way they will have the roads cleared etc by then. Travel is usually very restricted after these types of events. So long as the house is not damaged (I do not expect issues) I’ll be fine but it sure is not pleasant waiting these storms out.

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September 9, 2017 daaswampman 0

All you can do is try!

I have an 82 year old family member is Sarasota that has refused to leave. I even offered to drive down and get him! I am glad I took him a rather expansive emergency kit last year, even though I have had to listen to complaints about how much room it take up.

I talked with him this morning and he still has not looked at the kit or thinks there will be any problems where he lives. He is not senile, demented, or anything of that nature. All we can do is pray for the best. Swamp

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September 9, 2017 daaswampman 0

All you can do is try!

I have an 82 year old family member is Sarasota that has refused to leave. I even offered to drive down and get him! I am glad I took him a rather expansive emergency kit last year, even though I have had to listen to complaints about how much room it take up.

I talked with him this morning and he still has not looked at the kit or thinks there will be any problems where he lives. He is not senile, demented, or anything of that nature. All we can do is pray for the best. Swamp

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September 9, 2017 NJMike 0

It’s classic normalcy bias. Some people just can’t wrap their heads around disaster or think the stuff they see on the news applies to them.

Some family of the GF live near Tampa and were planning to weather things out in their concrete block garage. Geez. What dummies. The roof will be blown off and the storm surge could easily be over the garage.

I was originally supposed to be flying into Orlando tomorrow for work. Glad that had got cancelled by Wednesday.

I have family on the East Coast and coworkers in the Miami area. Haven’t been in contact but hope they’re alright and doing the right thing.

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September 9, 2017 NJMike 0

It’s classic normalcy bias. Some people just can’t wrap their heads around disaster or think the stuff they see on the news applies to them.

Some family of the GF live near Tampa and were planning to weather things out in their concrete block garage. Geez. What dummies. The roof will be blown off and the storm surge could easily be over the garage.

I was originally supposed to be flying into Orlando tomorrow for work. Glad that had got cancelled by Wednesday.

I have family on the East Coast and coworkers in the Miami area. Haven’t been in contact but hope they’re alright and doing the right thing.

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September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
I don’t know if this would give us any protection, a couple years back I was losing computers and appliances so had
the electric utility put a whole house surge protector on our house, its $2.99 a month, have had no problems since.

Would this help or is it beyond something like that?

Nothing is guaranteed, but it should work for any solar storm kind of event.

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September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
I don’t know if this would give us any protection, a couple years back I was losing computers and appliances so had
the electric utility put a whole house surge protector on our house, its $2.99 a month, have had no problems since.

Would this help or is it beyond something like that?

Nothing is guaranteed, but it should work for any solar storm kind of event.

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September 9, 2017 rickdun 0

I was watching the news and they were interviewing various people and one old timer said he and his will can with stand any hurricane.

A woman and her son were tying up their boat and planned on staying on the boat until the hurricane past.

Another woman was walking her 3 kids and pushing another in a stroller, saying will be ok, won’t we kids.

While talking to another woman, they showed people in the ocean swimming even though there were dangerous rip ties.

Another woman was interviewed on the phone saying her and her son can’t leave because they have a farm and have to take care of the cows.

Stupid is what stupid does.

I have a very bad felling there are going to be a lot of dead bodies after this on.

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September 9, 2017 rickdun 0

I was watching the news and they were interviewing various people and one old timer said he and his will can with stand any hurricane.

A woman and her son were tying up their boat and planned on staying on the boat until the hurricane past.

Another woman was walking her 3 kids and pushing another in a stroller, saying will be ok, won’t we kids.

While talking to another woman, they showed people in the ocean swimming even though there were dangerous rip ties.

Another woman was interviewed on the phone saying her and her son can’t leave because they have a farm and have to take care of the cows.

Stupid is what stupid does.

I have a very bad felling there are going to be a lot of dead bodies after this on.

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September 9, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
theoutback wrote:
While I do see where a strong enough CME could knock out the power grid and cause disruptions in radio waves, I don’t see the correlation between them and Hurricanes. Irma, Jose, and others mentioned in the link were formed and had strengthened long before the flares had erupted. Maybe I’m just a little cunfused, but it seems like a bit of a stretch. :?

Good on you Outback :thumbup: …It is a stretch, of understanding….

This is new science but the models have been proving, if not 100% yet so should be challenged so we can strengthen the findings or abandon the models searching for the correlation in a different way….But, the correlation between the Suns influence on our weather patterns is there. It’s already proven. Not just on our planet of course as we’re tracking it on others as well……But any real desire for unbiased learning will be challenging as you have to force yourself to keep the “Learning Door” open…..No science is finalized….. Ever hear the Global Warmers state “The science is proven!!! THERE IS NO DEBATING THIS!!!!!”….(cringe worthy)……..And all their “Proven” models have crumbled…..lol :rolleyes:

I sometimes need to remind them, The Earth was flat…Proven!, the Earth was the center of the universe…Proven!, the Sun rotates around the earth…Proven!…lol…The list goes on and on forever.

I know you follow Ben so continued study on this specific topic you’ll start to see it with more exposure to it from him and in your own research as I have…..But NEVER stop challenging it. :thumbup:

You know about Sun spots, yes?….Ever hear of an Earth Spot?

I have seen multiple times a flare, then either a rapidly appearing small storm(Earth spot) and immediately in that area an earthquake. It’s predictable. Nowhere near perfect, but predictable.

Do you know what OLR(Outgoing Longwave Radiation) is and how we can tie that in as well?…..Its heady stuff but the cross-ties are just beginning to be understood and how the interaction and at what levels of influence each have upon each other in picture-perfect predictable models.

There are so many factors involved for predicting these models we have a long way to go still…..OLR, Coronal Hole Streams, Planetary alignment, Gravity Connectivity, Solar cycles, Magnetic Shielding Variances,….So.Many.Factors.

Longer study is needed….4 years is nowhere close to “Proving” it(lol) but I definitely see a correlation so far….

~D

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September 9, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
theoutback wrote:
While I do see where a strong enough CME could knock out the power grid and cause disruptions in radio waves, I don’t see the correlation between them and Hurricanes. Irma, Jose, and others mentioned in the link were formed and had strengthened long before the flares had erupted. Maybe I’m just a little cunfused, but it seems like a bit of a stretch. :?

Good on you Outback :thumbup: …It is a stretch, of understanding….

This is new science but the models have been proving, if not 100% yet so should be challenged so we can strengthen the findings or abandon the models searching for the correlation in a different way….But, the correlation between the Suns influence on our weather patterns is there. It’s already proven. Not just on our planet of course as we’re tracking it on others as well……But any real desire for unbiased learning will be challenging as you have to force yourself to keep the “Learning Door” open…..No science is finalized….. Ever hear the Global Warmers state “The science is proven!!! THERE IS NO DEBATING THIS!!!!!”….(cringe worthy)……..And all their “Proven” models have crumbled…..lol :rolleyes:

I sometimes need to remind them, The Earth was flat…Proven!, the Earth was the center of the universe…Proven!, the Sun rotates around the earth…Proven!…lol…The list goes on and on forever.

I know you follow Ben so continued study on this specific topic you’ll start to see it with more exposure to it from him and in your own research as I have…..But NEVER stop challenging it. :thumbup:

You know about Sun spots, yes?….Ever hear of an Earth Spot?

I have seen multiple times a flare, then either a rapidly appearing small storm(Earth spot) and immediately in that area an earthquake. It’s predictable. Nowhere near perfect, but predictable.

Do you know what OLR(Outgoing Longwave Radiation) is and how we can tie that in as well?…..Its heady stuff but the cross-ties are just beginning to be understood and how the interaction and at what levels of influence each have upon each other in picture-perfect predictable models.

There are so many factors involved for predicting these models we have a long way to go still…..OLR, Coronal Hole Streams, Planetary alignment, Gravity Connectivity, Solar cycles, Magnetic Shielding Variances,….So.Many.Factors.

Longer study is needed….4 years is nowhere close to “Proving” it(lol) but I definitely see a correlation so far….

~D

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:28 am


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September 9, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
theoutback wrote:
While I do see where a strong enough CME could knock out the power grid and cause disruptions in radio waves, I don’t see the correlation between them and Hurricanes. Irma, Jose, and others mentioned in the link were formed and had strengthened long before the flares had erupted. Maybe I’m just a little cunfused, but it seems like a bit of a stretch. :?

Good on you Outback :thumbup: …It is a stretch, of understanding….

This is new science but the models have been proving, if not 100% yet so should be challenged so we can strengthen the findings or abandon the models searching for the correlation in a different way….But, the correlation between the Suns influence on our weather patterns is there. It’s already proven. Not just on our planet of course as we’re tracking it on others as well……But any real desire for unbiased learning will be challenging as you have to force yourself to keep the “Learning Door” open…..No science is finalized….. Ever hear the Global Warmers state “The science is proven!!! THERE IS NO DEBATING THIS!!!!!”….(cringe worthy)……..And all their “Proven” models have crumbled…..lol :rolleyes:

I sometimes need to remind them, The Earth was flat…Proven!, the Earth was the center of the universe…Proven!, the Sun rotates around the earth…Proven!…lol…The list goes on and on forever.

I know you follow Ben so continued study on this specific topic you’ll start to see it with more exposure to it from him and in your own research as I have…..But NEVER stop challenging it. :thumbup:

You know about Sun spots, yes?….Ever hear of an Earth Spot?

I have seen multiple times a flare, then either a rapidly appearing small storm(Earth spot) and immediately in that area an earthquake. It’s predictable. Nowhere near perfect, but predictable.

Do you know what OLR(Outgoing Longwave Radiation) is and how we can tie that in as well?…..Its heady stuff but the cross-ties are just beginning to be understood and how the interaction and at what levels of influence each have upon each other in picture-perfect predictable models.

There are so many factors involved for predicting these models we have a long way to go still…..OLR, Coronal Hole Streams, Planetary alignment, Gravity Connectivity, Solar cycles, Magnetic Shielding Variances,….So.Many.Factors.

Longer study is needed….4 years is nowhere close to “Proving” it(lol) but I definitely see a correlation so far….

~D

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September 9, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

Our friend got back to Indiana from St.Pete last night. They told the wife that it took 18 hrs to go 200 miles and were only allowed 10 gal of gas at a time.. I tried to get them to leave a couple of days before and was told it would be ok Irma wasn’t going to be that bad.. Can’t fix stupid

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September 9, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

Our friend got back to Indiana from St.Pete last night. They told the wife that it took 18 hrs to go 200 miles and were only allowed 10 gal of gas at a time.. I tried to get them to leave a couple of days before and was told it would be ok Irma wasn’t going to be that bad.. Can’t fix stupid

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September 9, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

Our friend got back to Indiana from St.Pete last night. They told the wife that it took 18 hrs to go 200 miles and were only allowed 10 gal of gas at a time.. I tried to get them to leave a couple of days before and was told it would be ok Irma wasn’t going to be that bad.. Can’t fix stupid

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September 9, 2017 anita 0

This Disney thing annoys me because I am a (small) shareholder. These people are putting the company employees at risk and wasting Disney company money so they don’t have to stock up, suffer the traffic, the gas lines etc. I have absolutely no doubt that Disney has many hurricane precautions/preparations. But using it as your hurricane shelter, making their employees take care of you instead of their own homes and families, is a bit much.

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September 9, 2017 anita 0

This Disney thing annoys me because I am a (small) shareholder. These people are putting the company employees at risk and wasting Disney company money so they don’t have to stock up, suffer the traffic, the gas lines etc. I have absolutely no doubt that Disney has many hurricane precautions/preparations. But using it as your hurricane shelter, making their employees take care of you instead of their own homes and families, is a bit much.

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September 9, 2017 Floridaclipper 0

I have heard great things about how Disney cared for their guests. A popular radio host gave Disney a lot of praise after another storm. I haven’t heard what their plans are for the guests that are already there. Disney is just over an hour south of me. I’m staying put for this one. Some storms I stay and some I go. Each situation is unique. Employers don’t make it easy. By the time they close it’s too late to get out of the area especially with an event this large. I’ll be working until after midnight and then commuting home. It shouldn’t be an issue getting home but I’d rather have the extra time to finish getting set up and rest. I won’t get much sleep during the storm. I’m riding it out solo so I can’t switch off watch duty to someone else.

Currently traffic is an issue. They did open up a shoulder lane to help with traffic flow but contraflow traffic has not been initiated. They still need the hwys to rush supplies south into the area. The window to get out is about at it’s limit at this point. Gas is difficult to come by. I saw one station that was packed with people waiting for gas to be delivered. Cars are being towed off the hwy then the people will need to decide what to do next if they can’t find fuel. Hotels are not an option. They are all booked. I’ve met a lot of tired people, some in tears,most of them without a plan. The shelves are empty of staples unless you are there when the delivery arrives. People are complaining about the lack of bath tissue and bread. Many of the businesses and restaurants will close at some point today. Hopefully the people in hotels thought to pack food. Of note the Orlando Diocese has given the option to the individual churches to decide if they will say Mass this weekend. My church will be closed. The Bishop dispensed the obligation to attend Mass so it will not be a sin. I still plan to go for a few minutes and pray today and tomorrow.

It won’t be pleasant. In my area the worst will be 58 mph winds with gusts up to 109. My hurricane shutters are good to 150 mph and I do not expect flooding in my area. As the storm moves closer the mandatory evacuation orders are issued progressively to the north.The last I heard was that my area has a mandatory evacuation for mobile homes.

Here’s the scale of what type of damage one can expect at the different wind speeds.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php

I hope we will not see loss of life in FL but unfortunately there will be. Some are remaining in areas where there is no question that they should leave.

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September 9, 2017 Floridaclipper 0

I have heard great things about how Disney cared for their guests. A popular radio host gave Disney a lot of praise after another storm. I haven’t heard what their plans are for the guests that are already there. Disney is just over an hour south of me. I’m staying put for this one. Some storms I stay and some I go. Each situation is unique. Employers don’t make it easy. By the time they close it’s too late to get out of the area especially with an event this large. I’ll be working until after midnight and then commuting home. It shouldn’t be an issue getting home but I’d rather have the extra time to finish getting set up and rest. I won’t get much sleep during the storm. I’m riding it out solo so I can’t switch off watch duty to someone else.

Currently traffic is an issue. They did open up a shoulder lane to help with traffic flow but contraflow traffic has not been initiated. They still need the hwys to rush supplies south into the area. The window to get out is about at it’s limit at this point. Gas is difficult to come by. I saw one station that was packed with people waiting for gas to be delivered. Cars are being towed off the hwy then the people will need to decide what to do next if they can’t find fuel. Hotels are not an option. They are all booked. I’ve met a lot of tired people, some in tears,most of them without a plan. The shelves are empty of staples unless you are there when the delivery arrives. People are complaining about the lack of bath tissue and bread. Many of the businesses and restaurants will close at some point today. Hopefully the people in hotels thought to pack food. Of note the Orlando Diocese has given the option to the individual churches to decide if they will say Mass this weekend. My church will be closed. The Bishop dispensed the obligation to attend Mass so it will not be a sin. I still plan to go for a few minutes and pray today and tomorrow.

It won’t be pleasant. In my area the worst will be 58 mph winds with gusts up to 109. My hurricane shutters are good to 150 mph and I do not expect flooding in my area. As the storm moves closer the mandatory evacuation orders are issued progressively to the north.The last I heard was that my area has a mandatory evacuation for mobile homes.

Here’s the scale of what type of damage one can expect at the different wind speeds.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php

I hope we will not see loss of life in FL but unfortunately there will be. Some are remaining in areas where there is no question that they should leave.

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September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

TRex2 wrote:They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. …

Well that is the simple answer.

I was thinking more along the lines of:
“get all the gas you can get, and get on I-95 North, and go as far as you can.
Then go West for an hour. Wait until Jose gets past Florida before going back South.”

Anyways, that is what I would have told them.

I always tell any of my family or friends that are “of means” (I am, but, just barely)
to bug out to twice the distance you think you need to. Or three times.
Let the ones who cannot go that far have the closer places.

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September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

TRex2 wrote:They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. …

Well that is the simple answer.

I was thinking more along the lines of:
“get all the gas you can get, and get on I-95 North, and go as far as you can.
Then go West for an hour. Wait until Jose gets past Florida before going back South.”

Anyways, that is what I would have told them.

I always tell any of my family or friends that are “of means” (I am, but, just barely)
to bug out to twice the distance you think you need to. Or three times.
Let the ones who cannot go that far have the closer places.

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September 9, 2017 anita 0
TRex2 wrote:

anita wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:So, what happens to the people who are already at the hotel in Disney World? I know a lot of moms in my Facebook group, who live in Florida, were evacuating to Disney because they are so sure they will be well taken care of.

I take it these women aren’t preppers. “They are so sure they will be well taken care of,” is not the mindset of preppers. Sounds more like sheeple to me!

They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. The fact that they decided to go to Disneyworld to be taken care of doesn’t make them particularly sympathetic. I don’t envy them, headed out with tons of traffic with a carload of kids, but you make your choices and have to live with them.

They made the choice to stay in harms’ way and let someone else take care of them. They could have decided to go to Williamsburg, or someplace else out of the path of the storm, but no, they’d rather be someone else’s responsibility.

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September 9, 2017 anita 0
TRex2 wrote:

anita wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:So, what happens to the people who are already at the hotel in Disney World? I know a lot of moms in my Facebook group, who live in Florida, were evacuating to Disney because they are so sure they will be well taken care of.

I take it these women aren’t preppers. “They are so sure they will be well taken care of,” is not the mindset of preppers. Sounds more like sheeple to me!

They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. The fact that they decided to go to Disneyworld to be taken care of doesn’t make them particularly sympathetic. I don’t envy them, headed out with tons of traffic with a carload of kids, but you make your choices and have to live with them.

They made the choice to stay in harms’ way and let someone else take care of them. They could have decided to go to Williamsburg, or someplace else out of the path of the storm, but no, they’d rather be someone else’s responsibility.

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September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

The storm isn’t supposed to go through that area so,
unless they are going towards Montgomery AL, they should be OK.

OTOH, they may have a problem finding fuel in some areas.
I think this storm is going to cause more spot shortages throughout the Carolina’s.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:44 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

The storm isn’t supposed to go through that area so,
unless they are going towards Montgomery AL, they should be OK.

OTOH, they may have a problem finding fuel in some areas.
I think this storm is going to cause more spot shortages throughout the Carolina’s.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:44 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 9, 2017 theoutback 0

While I do see where a strong enough CME could knock out the power grid and cause disruptions in radio waves, I don’t see the correlation between them and Hurricanes. Irma, Jose, and others mentioned in the link were formed and had strengthened long before the flares had erupted. Maybe I’m just a little cunfused, but it seems like a bit of a stretch. :?

Statistics: Posted by theoutback — Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:55 am


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September 9, 2017 theoutback 0

While I do see where a strong enough CME could knock out the power grid and cause disruptions in radio waves, I don’t see the correlation between them and Hurricanes. Irma, Jose, and others mentioned in the link were formed and had strengthened long before the flares had erupted. Maybe I’m just a little cunfused, but it seems like a bit of a stretch. :?

Statistics: Posted by theoutback — Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:55 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 rickdun 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

I tried to get them to leave a day or two early. They were stubborn. But then they’ve no experience with this sort of thing. My immediate concern wasn’t Irma, it was them getting locked in traffic & stuck in the path of the storm as it moves up coast. They’re heading out tomorrow, I hope it’s early enough.

Molly, not to worry, they should be good to go, here’s the latest on Irma as of 2:00 a.m.:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at1.shtml?cone

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:43 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 rickdun 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

I tried to get them to leave a day or two early. They were stubborn. But then they’ve no experience with this sort of thing. My immediate concern wasn’t Irma, it was them getting locked in traffic & stuck in the path of the storm as it moves up coast. They’re heading out tomorrow, I hope it’s early enough.

Molly, not to worry, they should be good to go, here’s the latest on Irma as of 2:00 a.m.:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at1.shtml?cone

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:43 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 Mollypup 0

Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

I tried to get them to leave a day or two early. They were stubborn. But then they’ve no experience with this sort of thing. My immediate concern wasn’t Irma, it was them getting locked in traffic & stuck in the path of the storm as it moves up coast. They’re heading out tomorrow, I hope it’s early enough.

Statistics: Posted by Mollypup — Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:53 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 Mollypup 0

Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

I tried to get them to leave a day or two early. They were stubborn. But then they’ve no experience with this sort of thing. My immediate concern wasn’t Irma, it was them getting locked in traffic & stuck in the path of the storm as it moves up coast. They’re heading out tomorrow, I hope it’s early enough.

Statistics: Posted by Mollypup — Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:53 pm