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Natural Disasters • Re: Earthquake Swarm Yellowstone

June 19, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

USGS just sent me this alert…We’ve seen this before but a change in monitor status is something to just watch…no worries yet. ;)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY INFORMATION STATEMENT
U.S. Geological Survey
Monday, June 19, 2017, 3:09 PM MDT (Monday, June 19, 2017, 21:09 UTC)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO (VNUM #325010)
44°25’48” N 110°40’12” W, Summit Elevation 9203 ft (2805 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: NORMAL
Current Aviation Color Code: GREEN

The University of Utah, a YVO member agency, sent out the following update about the ongoing earthquake swarm north of West Yellowstone.

The University of Utah Seismograph Stations (UUSS) is monitoring an earthquake swarm which is currently active on the western edge of Yellowstone National Park. The swarm began on June 12th, 2017 and, as of 13:30 MDT on June 19th, 2017, is composed of 464 events with the largest magnitude of ML 4.4 (MW 4.4) (Figure 1). The swarm consists of one earthquake in the magnitude 4 range, 5 earthquakes in the magnitude 3 range, 57 earthquakes in the magnitude 2 range, 238 earthquakes in the magnitude 1 range, 157 earthquakes in the magnitude 0 range, and 6 earthquakes with magnitudes of less than zero. These events have depths from ~0.0 km to ~14.5 km, relative to sea level. At the time of this report, there were 115 felt reports for the M4.4 event that occurred on June 16, 2017 at 00:48:46.94 UTC (June 15, 2017 at 18:48:46.94 MDT). The M4.4 event has an oblique strike-slip moment tensor solution (Figures 1 & 2).

Earthquake swarms are common in Yellowstone and, on average, comprise about 50% of the total seismicity in the Yellowstone region.

Related figures can be viewed on the original post: http://quake.utah.edu/research/special- … owstone-mt

This is the highest number of earthquakes at Yellowstone within a single week in the past five years, but is fewer than weekly counts during similar earthquakes swarms in 2002, 2004, 2008 and 2010.

The Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO) provides long-term monitoring of volcanic and earthquake activity in the Yellowstone National Park region. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world and the first National Park. YVO is one of the five USGS Volcano Observatories that monitor volcanoes within the United States for science and public safety.

YVO Member agencies: USGS, Yellowstone National Park, University of Utah, University of Wyoming, UNAVCO, Inc., Wyoming State Geological Survey, Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology, Idaho Geological Survey

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Jacob Lowenstern, Scientist-in-Charge

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:16 pm


Natural Disasters • Re: Earthquake Swarm Yellowstone

June 19, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

USGS just sent me this alert…We’ve seen this before but a change in monitor status is something to just watch…no worries yet. ;)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY INFORMATION STATEMENT
U.S. Geological Survey
Monday, June 19, 2017, 3:09 PM MDT (Monday, June 19, 2017, 21:09 UTC)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO (VNUM #325010)
44°25’48” N 110°40’12” W, Summit Elevation 9203 ft (2805 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: NORMAL
Current Aviation Color Code: GREEN

The University of Utah, a YVO member agency, sent out the following update about the ongoing earthquake swarm north of West Yellowstone.

The University of Utah Seismograph Stations (UUSS) is monitoring an earthquake swarm which is currently active on the western edge of Yellowstone National Park. The swarm began on June 12th, 2017 and, as of 13:30 MDT on June 19th, 2017, is composed of 464 events with the largest magnitude of ML 4.4 (MW 4.4) (Figure 1). The swarm consists of one earthquake in the magnitude 4 range, 5 earthquakes in the magnitude 3 range, 57 earthquakes in the magnitude 2 range, 238 earthquakes in the magnitude 1 range, 157 earthquakes in the magnitude 0 range, and 6 earthquakes with magnitudes of less than zero. These events have depths from ~0.0 km to ~14.5 km, relative to sea level. At the time of this report, there were 115 felt reports for the M4.4 event that occurred on June 16, 2017 at 00:48:46.94 UTC (June 15, 2017 at 18:48:46.94 MDT). The M4.4 event has an oblique strike-slip moment tensor solution (Figures 1 & 2).

Earthquake swarms are common in Yellowstone and, on average, comprise about 50% of the total seismicity in the Yellowstone region.

Related figures can be viewed on the original post: http://quake.utah.edu/research/special- … owstone-mt

This is the highest number of earthquakes at Yellowstone within a single week in the past five years, but is fewer than weekly counts during similar earthquakes swarms in 2002, 2004, 2008 and 2010.

The Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO) provides long-term monitoring of volcanic and earthquake activity in the Yellowstone National Park region. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world and the first National Park. YVO is one of the five USGS Volcano Observatories that monitor volcanoes within the United States for science and public safety.

YVO Member agencies: USGS, Yellowstone National Park, University of Utah, University of Wyoming, UNAVCO, Inc., Wyoming State Geological Survey, Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology, Idaho Geological Survey

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Jacob Lowenstern, Scientist-in-Charge

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:16 pm


Natural Disasters • Re: Earthquake Swarm Yellowstone

June 19, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

USGS just sent me this alert…We’ve seen this before but a change in monitor status is something to just watch…no worries yet. ;)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY INFORMATION STATEMENT
U.S. Geological Survey
Monday, June 19, 2017, 3:09 PM MDT (Monday, June 19, 2017, 21:09 UTC)

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO (VNUM #325010)
44°25’48” N 110°40’12” W, Summit Elevation 9203 ft (2805 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: NORMAL
Current Aviation Color Code: GREEN

The University of Utah, a YVO member agency, sent out the following update about the ongoing earthquake swarm north of West Yellowstone.

The University of Utah Seismograph Stations (UUSS) is monitoring an earthquake swarm which is currently active on the western edge of Yellowstone National Park. The swarm began on June 12th, 2017 and, as of 13:30 MDT on June 19th, 2017, is composed of 464 events with the largest magnitude of ML 4.4 (MW 4.4) (Figure 1). The swarm consists of one earthquake in the magnitude 4 range, 5 earthquakes in the magnitude 3 range, 57 earthquakes in the magnitude 2 range, 238 earthquakes in the magnitude 1 range, 157 earthquakes in the magnitude 0 range, and 6 earthquakes with magnitudes of less than zero. These events have depths from ~0.0 km to ~14.5 km, relative to sea level. At the time of this report, there were 115 felt reports for the M4.4 event that occurred on June 16, 2017 at 00:48:46.94 UTC (June 15, 2017 at 18:48:46.94 MDT). The M4.4 event has an oblique strike-slip moment tensor solution (Figures 1 & 2).

Earthquake swarms are common in Yellowstone and, on average, comprise about 50% of the total seismicity in the Yellowstone region.

Related figures can be viewed on the original post: http://quake.utah.edu/research/special- … owstone-mt

This is the highest number of earthquakes at Yellowstone within a single week in the past five years, but is fewer than weekly counts during similar earthquakes swarms in 2002, 2004, 2008 and 2010.

The Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (YVO) provides long-term monitoring of volcanic and earthquake activity in the Yellowstone National Park region. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world and the first National Park. YVO is one of the five USGS Volcano Observatories that monitor volcanoes within the United States for science and public safety.

YVO Member agencies: USGS, Yellowstone National Park, University of Utah, University of Wyoming, UNAVCO, Inc., Wyoming State Geological Survey, Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology, Idaho Geological Survey

CONTACT INFORMATION:

Jacob Lowenstern, Scientist-in-Charge

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Natural Disasters • Earthquake Swarm Yellowstone

June 17, 2017 Mollypup 0
MAMMOTH HOT SPRINGS, Wyo. (AP) — A swarm of earthquakes in the northwestern part of Yellowstone National Park this week continued into Friday and was punctuated with a magnitude 4.4 quake Thursday evening.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake occurred at 6:48 p.m., in a backcountry area of Yellowstone National Park, about 8 miles (12.8 kilometers) northeast of West Yellowstone, Montana. The swarm of about 30 earthquakes of magnitude 2 and larger began Monday.

The West Yellowstone Police Department says the earthquake was felt in the town that borders the park, but there were no reports of damage.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl … ake-swarm/

The small earthquake that struck Yellowstone National Park on Thursday night was part of a swarm that has been hitting the area since Monday, scientists say.

The quake was centered near West Yellowstone, but was also felt by people in Gardiner and Bozeman.

“As of 10 a.m. this morning we had located a total of 235 earthquakes in the area,” said Jamie Farrell, University of Utah research professor of seismology.

Yellowstone gets about 1,500 to 2,000 earthquakes every year. About half of those come in earthquake swarms — lots of earthquakes in a small area in a short amount of time.

So this activity is fairly normal, Farrell said.

Most of the earthquakes in this swarm have been small — only four above magnitude 3. Thursday’s 4.5 magnitude earthquake was the only one reported to the U.S. Geological Survey website, meaning people actually felt it.

Not only was Thursday’s quake the largest in the current swarm, it was the largest in the area since March 30, 2014, when a 4.8 magnitude earthquake hit near Norris Geyser Basin, according to a news release from the University of Utah Seismograph Station.

Farrell said the swarm is the effect of normal tectonic stress in the Earth’s crust. As of Friday morning, his the University of Utah seismologists weren’t seeing anything volcanic in nature. Yellowstone National Park is home to a large volcano and the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world.

It’s impossible to predict when this current earthquake storm will end.

“These things could turn off in a heartbeat, or could last for months. Most go for a week or two,” Farrell said.

Farrell urges people to report any activity they feel to the USGS’s “Did you feel it” website, which help scientists record and understand shaking. People can also watch earthquake activity live at www.quake.utah.edu.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ne … e3f5f.html

I know that earthquakes are common around Yellowstone. However, this caught my eye & I thought I’d post. It’s a bit unusual for swarms to be news worthy since they are a common thing in the area.

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Natural Disasters • Earthquake Swarm Yellowstone

June 17, 2017 Mollypup 0
MAMMOTH HOT SPRINGS, Wyo. (AP) — A swarm of earthquakes in the northwestern part of Yellowstone National Park this week continued into Friday and was punctuated with a magnitude 4.4 quake Thursday evening.

The U.S. Geological Survey says the quake occurred at 6:48 p.m., in a backcountry area of Yellowstone National Park, about 8 miles (12.8 kilometers) northeast of West Yellowstone, Montana. The swarm of about 30 earthquakes of magnitude 2 and larger began Monday.

The West Yellowstone Police Department says the earthquake was felt in the town that borders the park, but there were no reports of damage.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl … ake-swarm/

The small earthquake that struck Yellowstone National Park on Thursday night was part of a swarm that has been hitting the area since Monday, scientists say.

The quake was centered near West Yellowstone, but was also felt by people in Gardiner and Bozeman.

“As of 10 a.m. this morning we had located a total of 235 earthquakes in the area,” said Jamie Farrell, University of Utah research professor of seismology.

Yellowstone gets about 1,500 to 2,000 earthquakes every year. About half of those come in earthquake swarms — lots of earthquakes in a small area in a short amount of time.

So this activity is fairly normal, Farrell said.

Most of the earthquakes in this swarm have been small — only four above magnitude 3. Thursday’s 4.5 magnitude earthquake was the only one reported to the U.S. Geological Survey website, meaning people actually felt it.

Not only was Thursday’s quake the largest in the current swarm, it was the largest in the area since March 30, 2014, when a 4.8 magnitude earthquake hit near Norris Geyser Basin, according to a news release from the University of Utah Seismograph Station.

Farrell said the swarm is the effect of normal tectonic stress in the Earth’s crust. As of Friday morning, his the University of Utah seismologists weren’t seeing anything volcanic in nature. Yellowstone National Park is home to a large volcano and the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world.

It’s impossible to predict when this current earthquake storm will end.

“These things could turn off in a heartbeat, or could last for months. Most go for a week or two,” Farrell said.

Farrell urges people to report any activity they feel to the USGS’s “Did you feel it” website, which help scientists record and understand shaking. People can also watch earthquake activity live at www.quake.utah.edu.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/ne … e3f5f.html

I know that earthquakes are common around Yellowstone. However, this caught my eye & I thought I’d post. It’s a bit unusual for swarms to be news worthy since they are a common thing in the area.

Statistics: Posted by Mollypup — Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:39 pm


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Natural Disasters • Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades…

April 18, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Close, but not so close….

Funny how you only hear about the ones they know will miss for sure….Others we’re told about AFTER they pass by…(Like AG13…Look it up if you want)

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/04/18/mega-asteroid-to-buzz-earth-on-wednesday.html

Here’s a tracking indicator tool but then again, only if they advise you of it…
https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/

Just interesting stuff…There’s nothing you could do anyways…lol

in the distance area…..LD is Lunar distance… a 2.0 would be double the distance as the moon…. .5 would be 1/2 the distance as the moon to the earth.

AU is distance to the sun…same applies there.

Happy tracking… :D

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Natural Disasters • Re: Year Without a Summer

April 3, 2017 IceFire 0
rickdun wrote:
Thanks for posting the articles, very good reading. I remember in 1990 or 1991, it started snowing down here in October and didn’t stop until May. A guy I worked with back then was from Texas and he said, up here you have two seasons, 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad sleding.

Enjoy your snow. I guess global warming has taken over since the year without a summer.

The “year without a summer” was the result of the worldwide effects of a LARGE volcanic eruption. The amount of ash thrown into the atmosphere had the net effect of blocking sunlight and thus lowering temperatures worldwide. We had a scaled down version of it after Mt. St. Helens blew it’s top…we were in Germany at the time, and the ash in the atmosphere lowered the temps enough that we were wearing jackets all summer long. We returned stateside the following December, to 3 feet of snow in West Texas! Weather patterns were affected for months afterward. A much larger eruption (say, like the Yellowstone caldera cutting loose) would have MUCH longer-term effects.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Year Without a Summer

April 2, 2017 Drakenstead1 0

This obviously relates to the Global Warming dispute and can be twisted into anything the proponents of radically reducing human’s footprint on the planet wish.
I believe that the real message here is that there are forces on earth and coming from the heavens that influence and drive events here far greater than the
impact of human activity. The science geeks tell us that 70,000 or so years ago Mount Toba blew a gasket and caused the extinction of most of the then
existing human race. They tell us that humanity was reduced to 7,000 or so people with all of us descended from those few survivors. I have to wonder if
those survivors were the ones that stocked up on the Paleolithic equivalent of Beans, bullets and Bandaids.
When Mount Pinatubo went up it released 300 times more Sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere than the entire human population had released since the
beginning of the industrial revolution. Somehow I have to believe that solar panels, electric cars and recycling are not the droids we should be looking for.
The definition of this planet according to the geologic and palentologic record has been one of dramatic and catastrophic change for millennia.
We have an impact but it appears to be the proverbial “Pfahrt in the whirlwind”.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Year Without a Summer

April 2, 2017 rickdun 0

Thanks for posting the articles, very good reading. I remember in 1990 or 1991, it started snowing down here in October and didn’t stop until May. A guy I worked with back then was from Texas and he said, up here you have two seasons, 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad sleding.

Enjoy your snow. I guess global warming has taken over since the year without a summer.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:39 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Tornado

February 25, 2017 GregoryChilds 0

I am glad that everything is okay and no major damage occurs. Tornado causes major damage, sometimes to property as well as to the life. One need to take precautions in order to save their life from such a natural disaster. My friend who was living in tornado prone areas faces the problem of property damage due to storm so he called storm damage Florida adjuster for filing claims and getting insurance money for repairing the damage

Statistics: Posted by GregoryChilds — Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:28 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Tornado

February 23, 2017 GregoryChilds 0

I am glad that everything is okay and no major damage occurs. Tornado causes major damage, sometimes to property as well as to the life. One need to take precautions in order to save their life from such a natural disaster. My friend who was living in tornado prone areas faces the problem of property damage due to storm so he called storm damage Florida adjuster for filing claims and getting insurance money for repairing the damage.

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 17, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

These ARE NOT state dams, their federal. BOR dept of interior owned and operated. Keep in mind these are for pumping water to SoCal, the purse strings are controlled bu water agencies in SoCal.

My sources are my uncles who are dam plant mechanics on dams in the area. Folsom, and Shasta. Both are 30 plus year employees of BOR. I’m unaware of any actual,state owned big dams, lots and lots of PG&E dams, and other power related private companies own most of the dams.

In fact their getting ready to remove three of the four dams on the Klamath River drainage. Had this already occurred, these dams and the flooding would be world class, catastrophic.

Incidently, these private dams, mine the electricity produced by the hydro electric, and have minor crews ate each, generally a maintance guy or two, and an operator, who sends power down stream, for sale.

Most often it is we the people who pay the actual dam major maintance bills. We’re screwed both ways, by paying for the power, and also for maintaining private enterprises dam costs.

A great system.

Dirk

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
Lance wrote:
Soooo……….that river goes right through the middle of Sacramento???

:rofl:

donba wrote:
A new storm coming in this weekend, so we lift the evacuation order on 250,000 sheep. it rains as expected and 250,000 sheep have to be herded out agin. Most of those idiots will not fuel up their cars and will once agin jam up everything. Break out the pop-corn another liberal funded show………

Egg-ZACH-TALLY!!!!

2 more days of heavy rain Friday and Saturday….. Idiots.

This is going to be very :offtopic: but in a way it’s not.
There has been at least 4 different books I’ve been reading that have tied in nicely with subjects here since joining in December. Prepper fiction. Fun stuff.

I know there’s a different area to mention them but this one just has to be mentioned in this thread….California idiocy, Dams coming down, drought, People hating CA, CA threating to succeed…. Good action, a believable look into the future.(2054 I think?)…..it’s all there. Excellent read but only 2 books in the series so far…They lasted me 2 weeks of spare time reading.

If you have Kindle Unlimited they’re free downloads….. “Fractured State” is book one, “Rouge State” is book two….Very enjoyable. https://www.amazon.com/Fractured-State-Book-ebook/dp/B018IAZMYW

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
Lance wrote:
Soooo……….that river goes right through the middle of Sacramento???

:rofl:

donba wrote:
A new storm coming in this weekend, so we lift the evacuation order on 250,000 sheep. it rains as expected and 250,000 sheep have to be herded out agin. Most of those idiots will not fuel up their cars and will once agin jam up everything. Break out the pop-corn another liberal funded show………

Egg-ZACH-TALLY!!!!

2 more days of heavy rain Friday and Saturday….. Idiots.

This is going to be very :offtopic: but in a way it’s not.
There has been at least 4 different books I’ve been reading that have tied in nicely with subjects here since joining in December. Prepper fiction. Fun stuff.

I know there’s a different area to mention them but this one just has to be mentioned in this thread….California idiocy, Dams coming down, drought, People hating CA, CA threating to succeed…. Good action, a believable look into the future.(2054 I think?)…..it’s all there. Excellent read but only 2 books in the series so far…They lasted me 2 weeks of spare time reading.

If you have Kindle Unlimited they’re free downloads….. “Fractured State” is book one, “Rouge State” is book two….Very enjoyable. https://www.amazon.com/Fractured-State-Book-ebook/dp/B018IAZMYW

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 Christy 0

So you live at the bottom of millions of gallons of water and you don’t have a plan in place?

Years ago we lived within 20 miles of a nuclear plant, every year we had a “drill” put on by the county. Everyone would participate, you had your stuff ready to go, you knew where you were to go and where your kids would be, so forth and so on. They even evacuated the hospitals, long term care, schools, businesses, everything. Plus the nuclear plant shut down every year for repairs.

So why don’t they do that for those living below an ocean? And where is the prepping mindsight for those people? Leaving pets, medicines, etc. Have they never heard of a bug out bag? Did FEMA not give them a web sight to go to after Katrina? Am I the only one that has our state government tell us to be prepared for 3-7 days in case of an emergency? We just got through living off of gennie power for a week after an ice storm, no big deal.

Sounds like a prime spot for a prepping convention/fair. The prepping business people should have already done bug out bags and get over there and make you some money.

Just another reason I live in the midwest. Our water is underground, our problem is getting it up, not having it come and wash us away.

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 Christy 0

So you live at the bottom of millions of gallons of water and you don’t have a plan in place?

Years ago we lived within 20 miles of a nuclear plant, every year we had a “drill” put on by the county. Everyone would participate, you had your stuff ready to go, you knew where you were to go and where your kids would be, so forth and so on. They even evacuated the hospitals, long term care, schools, businesses, everything. Plus the nuclear plant shut down every year for repairs.

So why don’t they do that for those living below an ocean? And where is the prepping mindsight for those people? Leaving pets, medicines, etc. Have they never heard of a bug out bag? Did FEMA not give them a web sight to go to after Katrina? Am I the only one that has our state government tell us to be prepared for 3-7 days in case of an emergency? We just got through living off of gennie power for a week after an ice storm, no big deal.

Sounds like a prime spot for a prepping convention/fair. The prepping business people should have already done bug out bags and get over there and make you some money.

Just another reason I live in the midwest. Our water is underground, our problem is getting it up, not having it come and wash us away.

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 donba 0

A new storm coming in this weekend, so we lift the evacuation order on 250,000 sheep. it rains as expected and 250,000 sheep have to be herded out agin. Most of those idiots will not fuel up their cars and will once agin jam up everything. Break out the pop-corn another liberal funded show………

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0
NJMike wrote:
I hope and pray the people in the affected area are all safely evacuated and that they’ll be able to stop a dam failure from washing away people’s homes and businesses. I hope none of our CA APN friends are in the threat area.

I’m monitoring this and thinking about how I’d evacuate. One vehicle, limited notice, and the possibility that anything left behind is gone forever. Do you give yourself 2 minutes, 20 minutes, 2 hours to pack up a vehicle?

I too feel bad for the folks that this will affect. It’s just so ridiculous that CA didn’t fix this problem when the perfect time presented itself…..like the past several years perhaps??? Especially since they knew this was a problem. I’ll bet that if this dam was protecting Hollywood, it would have been taken care of. Sadly I don’t think CA is the only state just waiting for infrastructure failures to happen. We’ll likely see more and more of these failures as time goes on because our wonderful leaders think it’s more important to spend our money on other stupid stuff. :crazy:

I saw a clip of folks evacuating the area. One person had a camper…..I thought there’d be more, but I only watched a very short clip. That’s what I’d do. I’d hook up the camper and pack as quickly as possible putting the lighter items in the camper and the heavier items in the truck so as not to overload the camper. The last thing you’d need is a flat tire on the road from on overloaded camper. Extra fuel, water, and generator would go in the back of the truck….like it always does when we camp. It’d be hard to decide on the fly what goes and what stays after you pack the obvious things. However, in this instance I think I would’ve been packing for a while before the evacuation order actually came down…….

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 15, 2017 daaswampman 0
air commando wrote:

daaswampman wrote:It will be interesting to hear the whole story. After all it is California and they go nuts over endangered minnows or birds nobody has seen in fifty years!

I think the area in question is mostly of earthen construction and has experienced years of extreme drought. What happens when a dried out foundation is suddenly saturated??? Will these mysteries ever end??? Swamp

Exactly what I was thinking, it’s the same thing you see every time you have a place in desert that gets a ton of water. It can’t be absorbed into the ground quickly enough so you see mudslides and flash flooding. I don’t know if this will put them back in drought conditions if they lose all of this water but I’m sure it will.

Something to be said for nature doing what she wants.

Even without a failure, this will have a huge impact on California. Oroville Dam is an earthfill embankment dam. It is also fifty years old and built with the technology of the day!

They will be forced to lower water levels for inspections and repairs. That could be difficult until after the Spring Run Off.

But what the hell – if you were good living below a pile of gravel 770 foot high and holding an ocean, what’s a leak or two? Swamp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embankment_dam

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:30 pm