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February 15, 2017 handyman777 0

Ray get out of your HOA, I know that I could not live like that…too many rules and then there’s that guy that drives around in that golf cart handing out tickets (citations).

Reb that is—just wrong—for that guy to say anything like that,to your wife. I hope you straightened him out on his thought process.

I have friends that voted for obozo; can’t say that I agree with them but there still my friends.
I believe this time around they voted for Trump :D ,I try to stay out of politic’s.

Good thing the wife’s not on this website, (she is)…Independent–Tea Party–Republican, etc…etc. need I say more. I’m sure she would have a thing or two to say to our liberal friends.

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February 15, 2017 handyman777 0

Ray get out of your HOA, I know that I could not live like that…too many rules and then there’s that guy that drives around in that golf cart handing out tickets (citations).

Reb that is—just wrong—for that guy to say anything like that,to your wife. I hope you straightened him out on his thought process.

I have friends that voted for obozo; can’t say that I agree with them but there still my friends.
I believe this time around they voted for Trump :D ,I try to stay out of politic’s.

Good thing the wife’s not on this website, (she is)…Independent–Tea Party–Republican, etc…etc. need I say more. I’m sure she would have a thing or two to say to our liberal friends.

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February 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Well my HOA ARE evil, but thats not because they are liberal. They are just jerks :p . And you are 100% right there are some very judgmental a$$ hats on that side, who don’t mind calling you out of your name. I mostly get into fights about gun rights, but the “how can you be a Republican?” fight is a close second. I never understand how you can agree with someone on 99 precent of the issues, 95% of the solutions, and the other 5% is just in the “How we solve them”, and they be still be so mad at you they can’t listen.

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February 14, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Reb, i was speaking from a “day to day” political view point. Don’t confuse that with my ideas of what happens in a crisis. Now most liberals i know are generally nice people, but they just don’t see the threats i do, and are not prepared to knuckle up. They aren’t evil, they just honestly think a great big government doing stuff is the answer.

Now Ray, I seem to remember, in the very recent past, a certain post by you complaining of your HOA nazis and obnoxious neighbors.
These wouldn’t be the friendly liberals of which you speak?? :)

We have a liberal couple in our church, very rare for our county. When the husband found out my wife might vote for Trump, he called my gentle, kind, friendly wife a nazi, to her face. I won’t tolerate that.
Reb

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February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Reb, i was speaking from a “day to day” political view point. Don’t confuse that with my ideas of what happens in a crisis. Now most liberals i know are generally nice people, but they just don’t see the threats i do, and are not prepared to knuckle up. They aren’t evil, they just honestly think a great big government doing stuff is the answer.

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February 14, 2017 rebnavy1862 0

To my knowledge, there is no one in my county, or the surrounding counties, planning on rioting or invading any of the cities of southeast Virginia. Most of us detest these urban areas and only venture there when compelled to. In a crisis situation, we would assume a defense mode and seal off our area from outside influence and incursion. This is hardly a fascist strategy. That is why I moved here from the city.

I would expect some attempt to breach our barriers, but no huge organized attack, especially not from the military. A vey large portion of the people here are vets or active duty military.

Of course, we would let people like you, Raymac, and others into the “colony”. I think you know you are welcome. Hopefully this will never happen. I fully expect the large urban areas to self destruct.

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February 14, 2017 Cast Iron 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:Cast Iron, Trump is not the one acting in a fascist manner. It is the far left. Don”t forget, it is their financier, Soros, who collaborated with the
Nazis. The left is trying to link Trump with Russia.

Thats a broad brush you’re painting with there Reb. Saying that is like saying the whole TEA Party was financed by the Koch Brothers. There are a lot ideological people on both ends of the spectrum going to marches and rallies and listening to talk radio out there. And i would venture to say most of them consider themselves patriots wanting the United States to live up to their interpretation of what a great country should be. BOTH ends have been manipulated by a power hungry elite group of people with agendas. THATS who the fight is with. Not the little lady with the picket sign regardless if that sign says “Life” or “Choice”.

Well said Ray.

The division I am seeing is you are on one of two sides.
No middle ground.
And it is the elite who is promoting their ideology.
However, in this case it appears the Left elite has the power of the mainstream media and feeding their propaganda to the masses.

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February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
Cast Iron, Trump is not the one acting in a fascist manner. It is the far left. Don”t forget, it is their financier, Soros, who collaborated with the
Nazis. The left is trying to link Trump with Russia.

Thats a broad brush you’re painting with there Reb. Saying that is like saying the whole TEA Party was financed by the Koch Brothers. There are a lot ideological people on both ends of the spectrum going to marches and rallies and listening to talk radio out there. And i would venture to say most of them consider themselves patriots wanting the United States to live up to their interpretation of what a great country should be. BOTH ends have been manipulated by a power hungry elite group of people with agendas. THATS who the fight is with. Not the little lady with the picket sign regardless if that sign says “Life” or “Choice”.

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February 14, 2017 Cast Iron 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
Cast Iron, Trump is not the one acting in a fascist manner. It is the far left. Don”t forget, it is their financier, Soros, who collaborated with the
Nazis. The left is trying to link Trump with Russia.

A most interesting observation.

And I feel I am inclined to agree but only to a degree. Time will tell if their actions changes that to full agreement. I do not rule it outside the realm of possibility.

I don’t live anywhere near a city. There are bridges that isolate my rural area from the cities. County residents are mostly veterans and hunters who belong to well organized “gun clubs”. My own gun club numbers over 600 members who are very well armed. Violence spilling over from cities that are 50 miles away would result in suicide for any invaders. I don’t thinh many liberals have the stomach for a stand up fight with extensive casualties. They would be bringing fists and baseball bats to a gun fight. No easy pickings here.
Reb

I noted in another thread of true believers I am seeing on the extreme Left.
Again, any extremism in any form is not good, and should be avoided.
Having said that, it is those kind of extremists I can see resorting to violence and justifying it.
IF, big IF, it comes to that, the opposition will likely be as guilty as engaging in the escalation of violence.
It is a race to the bottom.

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February 14, 2017 rebnavy1862 0

Cast Iron, Trump is not the one acting in a fascist manner. It is the far left. Don”t forget, it is their financier, Soros, who collaborated with the
Nazis. The left is trying to link Trump with Russia.

I don’t live anywhere near a city. There are bridges that isolate my rural area from the cities. County residents are mostly veterans and hunters who belong to well organized “gun clubs”. My own gun club numbers over 600 members who are very well armed. Violence spilling over from cities that are 50 miles away would result in suicide for any invaders. I don’t thinh many liberals have the stomach for a stand up fight with extensive casualties. They would be bringing fists and baseball bats to a gun fight. No easy pickings here.
Reb

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February 14, 2017 Cast Iron 0

I think, but have no real evidence, since the surprise win of Trump, and the failure of Clinton, those preppers who have been prepping since Obama, felt a sigh of relief and perhaps have taken a break.
Do something long enough,intense enough and a person can get fatigued.

On the other side, there are those who suddenly got prepper fever due to the election outcome.

I see the country even more dived than it was before.

There is a lot more hate filled rhetoric. I am reading numerous references in mainstream media to Nazi Germany, Hitler, fascists and now, brownshirts.

Is it real?
Does it matter?

The fear is there. It is visceral.

I shall continue to prep with the usual things I do every year.
But now, looking at the political, social landscape, I am now upping the prepping for some kind of social or civil unrest on a large, violent scale.
Sad to say I feel that way. I hope I am wrong.

Someone made a interesting observation the other day: Hitlers rise to power has been linked to the threat of communists, real or perceived has been debated.
I am not a WWII history buff, but what I did find on a Wiki page seemed to corroborate the idea.
So, in this day and age, if Trump is modern America’s Hitler, does that make The Left the Communists?

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February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Apache, I was channel surfing and came across a news story on one of those bunker companies out in Texas. The guy said his sales went up 250% when Obama got elected. He said there was a slight lull, but now his sales are up 500%. I think rich people are eagerly anticipating changes on a national level and a roaring economy, but still hedging their bets.

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February 14, 2017 apache235 0

Having found this site a short while ago, I’d agree that with Trump folks are thinking there is no need – except the left of course who are in full panic mode. What I found interesting in the run up to the election was something David Stockman said and that was he hoped that Hillary would win because as he saw it, it didn’t matter who won, in 18 months the economy would collapse and he wanted that to happen with a Dem in charge. I suppose an EMP or cyber attack could happen, but as I see it, a total financial melt down is going to happen, sooner rather than later. My wife and I have just got started in this, I am praying that we have enough time to get a retreat built. We ain’t young and it ain’t easy, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to be a victim, not without a fight anyway.

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January 30, 2017 daaswampman 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

daaswampman wrote:I wasted endless hours trying to encourage uninterested and lazy people. Lesson learned – it is now all about me and mine. Swamp

I hope “yours” includes me, and i’m hoping there is some gumbo and crawfish in there somewhere… :D

We have an accord! Swamp

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January 29, 2017 Scoutmaster 0
I wasted endless hours trying to encourage uninterested and lazy people. Lesson learned – it is now all about me and mine.
But you can not make them follow.

No truer words where ever spoken and my adapted number one policy, They either is or they ant by now Dive Dive Dive the SS minow is finish picking up passengers

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January 29, 2017 daaswampman 0

Oh Please – How hard can it be! If your not a Prepper now, you will be! Just add hot water, stir, for delicious hot meals and it comes in a bucket that lasts for years! I wonder how many bought that salty crap and never thought about having water, getting it hot or cleaning up their messes?

I wasted endless hours trying to encourage uninterested and lazy people. Lesson learned – it is now all about me and mine. Swamp

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January 28, 2017 ventruecrew 0

RayMac1963
I think you are right it seems to be country wide it is here in Ohio also. might be people have a scene or relief from the elections That might be true but at any time infrastructure could fail or be attacked and it all comes down. Your fallen out of fashion is a very good observation and I think accurate and good observation.

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January 28, 2017 Scoutmaster 0

You know Ray I never thought of that before You hit it right on the head,

I think being a “prepper” has fallen out of fashion

Your right well more bate for the wolves I guess. The hardest part is going to be saying no to the naysayers that I know or friends when it does happen. Most wont be able to find me anyway so I guess that will sort them out.

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January 28, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I’m good Scout. Honestly, I think being a “prepper” has fallen out of fashion, at least to the arm chair crowd, that had their interest spiked by the flurry of TV shows. They bought a case of MREs and a flashlight or whatever, and now its collecting dust in the closet. A lot of harder core folks ran away from the lime lite and term initially, and are just underground. They “dug in” just like you said. Especially with the like who they had representing the community on TV. Tyler the raider with his home made body armor, and the guy talking about not drinking his own urine are not exactly shining representatives.

The threats are still there, but its tedious hard boring work if you make it a chore. If you can integrate it into your like like most of us here do, its just “life”. Getting new people more engaged is hard because they just don’t see the threat. I was a lot easier a few years ago because we were fresh out (or still in) a depression. I don’t care what the media calls it, that was far worse then a recession. If not for the bail outs and all the social assistance programs we would have completely collapsed, and a LOT worse then 29 too… excuse my rant. But over the last few years things have just “felt better”, so people aren’t as interested.

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January 28, 2017 Scoutmaster 0

Hi ray hope you are keeping warm

I just do not understand, I have been in lived in and tried to per mote preping most of my adult life I know there here you think most already have their plans set and are dug in ? the activity level just seems to be flat.

I even tried working with some of the preper meet up groups in S/E Mich for a while. And found they are just a social groups with most not even interested enough to attend regular meetings even if they where free. :?:? They want to go to a presentation now and then and say they are prepers. Most had more excuses as to why they could not do any preping than you could even count. They really don’t want help when it comes down to it. They just want to talk about it. Most have far to many non preper social things going on there is no room for the real stuff.

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