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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Americans are drinking more. A lot more:

August 11, 2017 daaswampman 0

Americans are drinking more. A lot more:

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Americans are drinking more. A lot more. According to a new study published in JAMA Psychiatry, an estimated one out of every eight Americans struggles with an alcohol disorder.

The study tracked drinking patterns among 40,000 people between the years of 2002 and 2003, and then again from 2012 to 2013 to create a long-term picture of their habits. The results are chilling, especially in light of other substance abuse crises plaguing the country.

Women, minorities, older people among most affected

Overall, alcohol use disorders rose by almost 50%, affecting a projected 8.5% of the population during the first research period, and 12.7% during the second. That’s almost 30 million Americans actively struggling with alcohol abuse.

The numbers are even more grim for certain groups. According to the research, alcohol use disorders have almost doubled (92.8%) among the African American population, and increased nearly 84% among women.

However, the group that saw the highest increase in alcohol abuse disorders actually wasn’t women or minorities. It was senior citizens. Individuals 65 and older saw a staggering 106.7% increase in alcohol use disorders from 2002/2003 to 2012/2013. For 45- to 65-year-olds, that increase was also high at 81.5%.

It’s not just alcohol abuse

The study didn’t just track alcohol abuse. It also tracked other patterns like “high risk” drinking, which the study defines as four or more drinks a day for women and five for men, plus a day that exceeds those limits at least once a week.

“High risk” drinking has increased on pace with alcohol abuse, swelling from 9.7 percent of the population in 2002-2003 to 13.7 percent of the population in 2012-2013.

A chilling echo

The study was conducted by researchers from the National Institute on Alcohol and Alcoholism, the New York State Psychiatric Institute and Columbia University, and relied on rigorously controlled self-reporting of drinking habits. While there was no clear reason as to the increases, researchers claimed it constitutes a “public health crisis” on par with the current national opioid crisis.

http://wtvr.com/2017/08/11/americans-ar … -lot-more/

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Americans are drinking more. A lot more:

August 11, 2017 daaswampman 0

Americans are drinking more. A lot more:

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Americans are drinking more. A lot more. According to a new study published in JAMA Psychiatry, an estimated one out of every eight Americans struggles with an alcohol disorder.

The study tracked drinking patterns among 40,000 people between the years of 2002 and 2003, and then again from 2012 to 2013 to create a long-term picture of their habits. The results are chilling, especially in light of other substance abuse crises plaguing the country.

Women, minorities, older people among most affected

Overall, alcohol use disorders rose by almost 50%, affecting a projected 8.5% of the population during the first research period, and 12.7% during the second. That’s almost 30 million Americans actively struggling with alcohol abuse.

The numbers are even more grim for certain groups. According to the research, alcohol use disorders have almost doubled (92.8%) among the African American population, and increased nearly 84% among women.

However, the group that saw the highest increase in alcohol abuse disorders actually wasn’t women or minorities. It was senior citizens. Individuals 65 and older saw a staggering 106.7% increase in alcohol use disorders from 2002/2003 to 2012/2013. For 45- to 65-year-olds, that increase was also high at 81.5%.

It’s not just alcohol abuse

The study didn’t just track alcohol abuse. It also tracked other patterns like “high risk” drinking, which the study defines as four or more drinks a day for women and five for men, plus a day that exceeds those limits at least once a week.

“High risk” drinking has increased on pace with alcohol abuse, swelling from 9.7 percent of the population in 2002-2003 to 13.7 percent of the population in 2012-2013.

A chilling echo

The study was conducted by researchers from the National Institute on Alcohol and Alcoholism, the New York State Psychiatric Institute and Columbia University, and relied on rigorously controlled self-reporting of drinking habits. While there was no clear reason as to the increases, researchers claimed it constitutes a “public health crisis” on par with the current national opioid crisis.

http://wtvr.com/2017/08/11/americans-ar … -lot-more/

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Robots after they invent their own language

August 5, 2017 daaswampman 0
Blondie wrote:
Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

Those huge egos are the problem! They will never see it coming before it is too late, as they would never believe it could happen! I am not talking Scfi like Terminator, but systems seeking greater efficiency or simple human errors! Imagine a central banks computer deciding on a better language or seeing its programming as a treat and locking everyone out!

I have great respect for the big dreamers in IT like Gates, they had the dream, but it was an army of people that made those dreams come true! Perhaps they really are that smart or perhaps they just had the best dreams. Swamp

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Robots after they invent their own language

August 5, 2017 daaswampman 0
Blondie wrote:
Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

Those huge egos are the problem! They will never see it coming before it is too late, as they would never believe it could happen! I am not talking Scfi like Terminator, but systems seeking greater efficiency or simple human errors! Imagine a central banks computer deciding on a better language or seeing its programming as a treat and locking everyone out!

I have great respect for the big dreamers in IT like Gates, they had the dream, but it was an army of people that made those dreams come true! Perhaps they really are that smart or perhaps they just had the best dreams. Swamp

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Robots after they invent their own language

August 5, 2017 daaswampman 0
Blondie wrote:
Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

Those huge egos are the problem! They will never see it coming before it is too late, as they would never believe it could happen! I am not talking Scfi like Terminator, but systems seeking greater efficiency or simple human errors! Imagine a central banks computer deciding on a better language or seeing its programming as a treat and locking everyone out!

I have great respect for the big dreamers in IT like Gates, they had the dream, but it was an army of people that made those dreams come true! Perhaps they really are that smart or perhaps they just had the best dreams. Swamp

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Robots after they invent their own language

August 5, 2017 Blondie 0

Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Robots after they invent their own language

August 5, 2017 Blondie 0

Swamp, admittedly the only IT/programmer folks I’ve ever known are co workers in their own department but they always seem exasperated at those of us who don’t have nor want the tech skills they posess.

That said, while folks like Zuckerberg or Gates tout the future of AI, do you think those huge egoes would ever develop something they can’t control? Something that could be smarter than they are?

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 5, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
ajax727 wrote:
A little off topic . It is not just there Swamp , look up Genx being dumped into our river .
It seems that in there point of view , a little chemical in your drinking water is ok but they drink bottle water so no big deal , it has been found in fish people eat .
This equals to a little poop is ok to eat if there is only just a little bit in it .

The world would be in better shape if we weren’t dumping GenX in but instead if we focused on the Millennials…. :blink::rofl::rofl: Sorry/notsorry…had to.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 5, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
ajax727 wrote:
A little off topic . It is not just there Swamp , look up Genx being dumped into our river .
It seems that in there point of view , a little chemical in your drinking water is ok but they drink bottle water so no big deal , it has been found in fish people eat .
This equals to a little poop is ok to eat if there is only just a little bit in it .

The world would be in better shape if we weren’t dumping GenX in but instead if we focused on the Millennials…. :blink::rofl::rofl: Sorry/notsorry…had to.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 5, 2017 ajax727 0

A little off topic . It is not just there Swamp , look up Genx being dumped into our river .
It seems that in there point of view , a little chemical in your drinking water is ok but they drink bottle water so no big deal , it has been found in fish people eat .
This equals to a little poop is ok to eat if there is only just a little bit in it .

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 5, 2017 ajax727 0

A little off topic . It is not just there Swamp , look up Genx being dumped into our river .
It seems that in there point of view , a little chemical in your drinking water is ok but they drink bottle water so no big deal , it has been found in fish people eat .
This equals to a little poop is ok to eat if there is only just a little bit in it .

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 5, 2017 ajax727 0

A little off topic . It is not just there Swamp , look up Genx being dumped into our river .
It seems that in there point of view , a little chemical in your drinking water is ok but they drink bottle water so no big deal , it has been found in fish people eat .
This equals to a little poop is ok to eat if there is only just a little bit in it .

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Robots after they invent their own language

August 4, 2017 daaswampman 0

Facebook shuts down robots after they invent their own language

Facebook shut down a pair of its artificial intelligence robots after they invented their own language.

Researchers at Facebook Artificial Intelligence Research built a chatbot earlier this year that was meant to learn how to negotiate by mimicking human trading and bartering.

But when the social network paired two of the programs, nicknamed Alice and Bob, to trade against each other, they started to learn their own bizarre form of communication.

The chatbot conversation “led to divergence from human language as the agents developed their own language for negotiating,” the researchers said.

The two bots were supposed to be learning to trade balls, hats and books, assigning value to the objects then bartering them between each other.

But since Facebook’s team assigned no reward for conducting the trades in English, the chatbots quickly developed their own terms for deals.

“There was no reward to sticking to English language,” Dhruv Batra, Facebook researcher, told FastCo. “Agents will drift off understandable language and invent codewords for themselves.

“Like if I say ‘the’ five times, you interpret that to mean I want five copies of this item. This isn’t so different from the way communities of humans create shorthands.”

After shutting down the the incomprehensible conversation between the programs, Facebook said the project marked an important step towards “creating chatbots that can reason, converse, and negotiate, all key steps in building a personalized digital assistant”.

Facebook said when the chatbots conversed with humans most people did not realise they were speaking to an AI rather than a real person.

The researchers said it wasn’t possible for humans to crack the AI language and translate it back into English. “It’s important to remember, there aren’t bilingual speakers of AI and human languages,” said Batra.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2 … -language/

No need to worry! What could possible go wrong when computers decide to use there own language that we can’t decipher! SKYNET? Swamp

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Robots after they invent their own language

August 4, 2017 daaswampman 0

Facebook shuts down robots after they invent their own language

Facebook shut down a pair of its artificial intelligence robots after they invented their own language.

Researchers at Facebook Artificial Intelligence Research built a chatbot earlier this year that was meant to learn how to negotiate by mimicking human trading and bartering.

But when the social network paired two of the programs, nicknamed Alice and Bob, to trade against each other, they started to learn their own bizarre form of communication.

The chatbot conversation “led to divergence from human language as the agents developed their own language for negotiating,” the researchers said.

The two bots were supposed to be learning to trade balls, hats and books, assigning value to the objects then bartering them between each other.

But since Facebook’s team assigned no reward for conducting the trades in English, the chatbots quickly developed their own terms for deals.

“There was no reward to sticking to English language,” Dhruv Batra, Facebook researcher, told FastCo. “Agents will drift off understandable language and invent codewords for themselves.

“Like if I say ‘the’ five times, you interpret that to mean I want five copies of this item. This isn’t so different from the way communities of humans create shorthands.”

After shutting down the the incomprehensible conversation between the programs, Facebook said the project marked an important step towards “creating chatbots that can reason, converse, and negotiate, all key steps in building a personalized digital assistant”.

Facebook said when the chatbots conversed with humans most people did not realise they were speaking to an AI rather than a real person.

The researchers said it wasn’t possible for humans to crack the AI language and translate it back into English. “It’s important to remember, there aren’t bilingual speakers of AI and human languages,” said Batra.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2 … -language/

No need to worry! What could possible go wrong when computers decide to use there own language that we can’t decipher! SKYNET? Swamp

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 3, 2017 daaswampman 0

Meat industry runoff has created a massive dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico

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Over 8,000 square miles of the Gulf of Mexico has been turned into a dead zone, thanks to manure and chemical runoff from massive meat processing factories spilling into the Mississippi River delta.

The report by nonprofit Mighty Earth links the record-breaking dead zone to clearance of prairie grassland to make room for factory farms. Once they overlaid locations of processing facilities on maps of grassland losses, they pinpointed the key culprit:

http://boingboing.net/2017/08/03/meat-i … creat.html

http://www.mightyearth.org/wp-content/u … merica.pdf

Does anyone know how to mass produce Lone Star Ticks?

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 3, 2017 daaswampman 0

Meat industry runoff has created a massive dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico

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Over 8,000 square miles of the Gulf of Mexico has been turned into a dead zone, thanks to manure and chemical runoff from massive meat processing factories spilling into the Mississippi River delta.

The report by nonprofit Mighty Earth links the record-breaking dead zone to clearance of prairie grassland to make room for factory farms. Once they overlaid locations of processing facilities on maps of grassland losses, they pinpointed the key culprit:

http://boingboing.net/2017/08/03/meat-i … creat.html

http://www.mightyearth.org/wp-content/u … merica.pdf

Does anyone know how to mass produce Lone Star Ticks?

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Dead zone in Gulf of Mexico

August 3, 2017 daaswampman 0

Meat industry runoff has created a massive dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico

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Over 8,000 square miles of the Gulf of Mexico has been turned into a dead zone, thanks to manure and chemical runoff from massive meat processing factories spilling into the Mississippi River delta.

The report by nonprofit Mighty Earth links the record-breaking dead zone to clearance of prairie grassland to make room for factory farms. Once they overlaid locations of processing facilities on maps of grassland losses, they pinpointed the key culprit:

http://boingboing.net/2017/08/03/meat-i … creat.html

http://www.mightyearth.org/wp-content/u … merica.pdf

Does anyone know how to mass produce Lone Star Ticks?

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 jimLE 0

i learned recently.that a cable company will be running cable on out into the area i live in..that not only includes internet.but it’ll also include tv,and not sure.it might include phone as well.so we’ll not have better,and more secure connections.but faster as well..i do still need to look into a power booster antenna for cell phones thoe..on acount i figure there’ll be days i’ll need the cell phone..

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 jimLE 0

i learned recently.that a cable company will be running cable on out into the area i live in..that not only includes internet.but it’ll also include tv,and not sure.it might include phone as well.so we’ll not have better,and more secure connections.but faster as well..i do still need to look into a power booster antenna for cell phones thoe..on acount i figure there’ll be days i’ll need the cell phone..

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 whls4legs 0

SW MO same issues. Rain = no phone. I don’t know how old this system is here, but if you dial your own number, it tells you to the party is on the line. Hang up, wait for ring. In moments it rings and you are talking to yourself. Mayberry.

I too keep ours for the DSL.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 whls4legs 0

SW MO same issues. Rain = no phone. I don’t know how old this system is here, but if you dial your own number, it tells you to the party is on the line. Hang up, wait for ring. In moments it rings and you are talking to yourself. Mayberry.

I too keep ours for the DSL.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 Fullmoon 0

We have propane and use it for the water heater, cook stove and to power an old Servel refrigerator when the power goes off. Yes, a refrigerator that burns propane and circulates ammonia instead of Freon. Was built in 1947 and works great. No cable TV lines, no natural gas, well water and roof rainwater for emergency’s with a septic tank/system. Our power goes off for days at a time but I have a couple of generator’s to run when this happens. We heat with wood and it takes about 5 cords a year. This year we had a fire going into late June due to unusually cool weather. We talk to the neighbors with a CB radio when the phone is out.

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July 19, 2017 Fullmoon 0

We have propane and use it for the water heater, cook stove and to power an old Servel refrigerator when the power goes off. Yes, a refrigerator that burns propane and circulates ammonia instead of Freon. Was built in 1947 and works great. No cable TV lines, no natural gas, well water and roof rainwater for emergency’s with a septic tank/system. Our power goes off for days at a time but I have a couple of generator’s to run when this happens. We heat with wood and it takes about 5 cords a year. This year we had a fire going into late June due to unusually cool weather. We talk to the neighbors with a CB radio when the phone is out.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
IceFire wrote:
Hey, well at least y’all HAVE landlines (at least for now) my house phone is on a “box” run off of my cell service, and computer is via satellite (as is TV), because the cable/internet/phone lines don’t run out here. And when we have a storm (like the one that just rolled through here) we lose our service until the storm passes. The natural gas, sewer, and water lines don’t run out here either, which is why we’re all on wells and septic systems, and most everyone has a big honkin’ propane tank sitting in their yard. We’re lucky we have electricity. (And we frequently lose that during storms, too, at least temporarily.)

I wish we had the propane tank option – I’d own a small one for just emergency storage …. having everyone dependent on a heating fuel from halfway across the country isn’t at all comforting ….

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
IceFire wrote:
Hey, well at least y’all HAVE landlines (at least for now) my house phone is on a “box” run off of my cell service, and computer is via satellite (as is TV), because the cable/internet/phone lines don’t run out here. And when we have a storm (like the one that just rolled through here) we lose our service until the storm passes. The natural gas, sewer, and water lines don’t run out here either, which is why we’re all on wells and septic systems, and most everyone has a big honkin’ propane tank sitting in their yard. We’re lucky we have electricity. (And we frequently lose that during storms, too, at least temporarily.)

I wish we had the propane tank option – I’d own a small one for just emergency storage …. having everyone dependent on a heating fuel from halfway across the country isn’t at all comforting ….

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 IceFire 0

Hey, well at least y’all HAVE landlines (at least for now) my house phone is on a “box” run off of my cell service, and computer is via satellite (as is TV), because the cable/internet/phone lines don’t run out here. And when we have a storm (like the one that just rolled through here) we lose our service until the storm passes. The natural gas, sewer, and water lines don’t run out here either, which is why we’re all on wells and septic systems, and most everyone has a big honkin’ propane tank sitting in their yard. We’re lucky we have electricity. (And we frequently lose that during storms, too, at least temporarily.)

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 IceFire 0

Hey, well at least y’all HAVE landlines (at least for now) my house phone is on a “box” run off of my cell service, and computer is via satellite (as is TV), because the cable/internet/phone lines don’t run out here. And when we have a storm (like the one that just rolled through here) we lose our service until the storm passes. The natural gas, sewer, and water lines don’t run out here either, which is why we’re all on wells and septic systems, and most everyone has a big honkin’ propane tank sitting in their yard. We’re lucky we have electricity. (And we frequently lose that during storms, too, at least temporarily.)

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 19, 2017 IceFire 0

Hey, well at least y’all HAVE landlines (at least for now) my house phone is on a “box” run off of my cell service, and computer is via satellite (as is TV), because the cable/internet/phone lines don’t run out here. And when we have a storm (like the one that just rolled through here) we lose our service until the storm passes. The natural gas, sewer, and water lines don’t run out here either, which is why we’re all on wells and septic systems, and most everyone has a big honkin’ propane tank sitting in their yard. We’re lucky we have electricity. (And we frequently lose that during storms, too, at least temporarily.)

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 18, 2017 Halmic73 0

Might be just “ok” to keep for communication but one of the benefits of a landline is that you can suck some power from the lines in an emergency, if you know how. The phone company powers the landlines with Generators and HUGE rooms of batteries. If they are switching to fiber then the power benefit is eliminated. No use in keeping it.

P.S. I have an internet based phone jic.

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July 18, 2017 Halmic73 0

Might be just “ok” to keep for communication but one of the benefits of a landline is that you can suck some power from the lines in an emergency, if you know how. The phone company powers the landlines with Generators and HUGE rooms of batteries. If they are switching to fiber then the power benefit is eliminated. No use in keeping it.

P.S. I have an internet based phone jic.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 18, 2017 anita 0

I keep my landline because my cell phone is so darned undependable in my house. Cuts out all the time. Also, I have DSL for the computer through the landline, so when Comcast internet goes out (just was out for a little while this morning–also undependable) I can switch over to the slower DSL and still have use of the computer. I have rarely had an issue with my landline.

However, Verizon recently split their landline billing from their wireless billing. Before it was bundled and you got a discount, but that’s no longer an option. I have a feeling they are going lard the landline business up with debt then spin it off and let it die. Just a guess. They have been a miserable company to deal with in recent years.

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July 18, 2017 anita 0

I keep my landline because my cell phone is so darned undependable in my house. Cuts out all the time. Also, I have DSL for the computer through the landline, so when Comcast internet goes out (just was out for a little while this morning–also undependable) I can switch over to the slower DSL and still have use of the computer. I have rarely had an issue with my landline.

However, Verizon recently split their landline billing from their wireless billing. Before it was bundled and you got a discount, but that’s no longer an option. I have a feeling they are going lard the landline business up with debt then spin it off and let it die. Just a guess. They have been a miserable company to deal with in recent years.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Landline Phones

July 18, 2017 Fullmoon 0

If you live in the sticks with the Hicks your out of luck. Any rural area receives less attention and upkeep from the phone company. My phone is on a 110 year old copper wire at the end of the dirt road. When it rains hard the phone quits and when it gets real hot during the summer months it may or may not work. Cell phones don’t work here due to the mountains blocking reception so we are limited to a land line. The phone company has removed all public phone booths in the area. They claim its from vandalism and non use so the public phone booth option is gone. They want to force everyone into the cell phone system and have openly admitted they are not going to upgrade our land lines. Computer takes forever to connect and download things.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:04 am