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January 18, 2017 Scoutmaster 0
looking forward to mounting atop my RV, then going repeater hunting (I have the hard copy book from the ARRL on repeaters for all states)

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I think you will find that the state by state listings are much more accurate, At least for Michigan I know of repeaters that have been taken off the air years ago, or never even made it to going on the air in the first place are still on many of the nation wide listings.

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January 18, 2017 Hansel1 0

15 bucks worth of plumbing supplies and some solder will create an antenna with the same performance… there are ample of plans on the net and you can even make them so you can take em apart by using the right parts.

Hans

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January 17, 2017 kappydell 0

http://www.mtcradio.com
its the blackbird j-pole, ‘tactical base’ antenna. Three options:
model 2M/70cm for ham143-149 MHz & 437-450 MHz
model MAR/GMRS for gmrs150-156 MHz & 460-470 MHz
model FIRE/POL155-161 MHz & 450-460 MHz

looking forward to mounting atop my RV, then going repeater hunting (I have the hard copy book from the ARRL on repeaters for all states). Reviews are quite good on it – that is where one user mentioned a 50-mile range.
For the price it is cheap enough to get me to try it.

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January 17, 2017 Scoutmaster 0

I can say saving money is great, and first on my list also. I have been retired for over 10 years. and saving money is my direction also. I want Something that works will continue to work and last as long as I do. I guess I am very lucky I got into ham in the early 70s and have been at it ever scene. I never got very interested in the HF bands ( although I have it) I always felt it depended greatly on the band conditions rather than equipment. So I stayed in the UHF and VHF area built a dozen or so repeater systems, Still have one operating from my home that covers much of south east Michigan. That has kept me busy and still does, What I am saying i guess its I have repair ability and longevity in my blood.

I do have a question, I could not get your link to work, I am assuming it is some kind of antenna. I hope you are not thinking that any UHF or VHF radio with only 3 or 4 watts will reach 50 miles on simplex? I have spent much of my adult life trying to extend VHF coverage. With with a good elevation a gain antenna on both ends even 50 miles will be hard to accomplished.

See if you can re-do the link always looking for better portable equipment

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January 16, 2017 kappydell 0

www.mtcradio.com%2Fblackbird-vhf-uhf-jp … a-2m-70cm-

Some of us are retired and find the cost index a real limiting factor to our hobby. So I am posting this info, as the above is for an AFFORDABLE (to us pore folks) antenna with no grounding required. It is under $40, comes with mounting hardware, and all you need to hook it up is a coax to screw onto your baofeng. OK, range is only around 50 miles, but it does break down nicely, comes witn mounting heardware for pvc pipe, wood or metal masts, and even has a hole on top so you can put it up in a tree for expedient use. It comes in both the vhf/uhf frequency as well as a GMRS frequency one. I am getting myself one of each for my birthday, looks like it will mount nicely on my RV ladder and take down easily for portability.

I like my Baofengs; I have both kinds and both are good value for the $$. These antennas will increase their versatility. (and yes, I do have a general ham license; my roommate is going the GMRS route as she chokes on tests and the ham test freaks her out. That way we have multiple alternate coms)

88 – KD9FOC

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January 16, 2017 theoutback 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ok Outback, i’m expecting a full and complete report soon. Those things been in my Amazon basket WAY too long.

Ray I used it for 2.25 hours yesterday just listening to tunes while working in the orchards and still had 3 of 4 bars showing. I didn’t have it on as loud as it could be cause it was too loud. Programing some local channels in today.

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January 16, 2017 Myakka 0

Scoutmaster,

I have used the baofeng heavily at work. Our issued radios are $1000 Bendix Kings. They are 5 watt digital handhelds.

My baofeng with the 18″ whip outperforms them for range. But…. the way the baofeng achieves the narrow band (and I do not remember how my comm brilliant friend explained it….) they are not truly narrow band in the same way..
Which means that they are more open to interference. You get break in of static now and then.

Otherwise, I find the radio to be solid. And I have used them for 7 hours with a team, some simplex and some repeater mixed through the day.

So my report is they would be a stellar choice for most small groups. If we were in a serious “grid down” event, a lot of the sources of interference would be gone anyway. LOL

And I like the range and clarity other than the static issue. (I find that this only happens on certain channels, which are near other active channels. If I am on a channel that is a good distance from any other activity, it doesn’t happen.)

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January 15, 2017 Scoutmaster 0

Do a distance check between the two units, and have another person standing there with a Kenwood, Icon or Yaesu see how they compare. Make sure it is several hrs on high power because that is what we will need then the time comes. I will be interested to see if yours comes out like mine did Also please keep in mind, I did not say they did not have comparable working characteristics some may be better when first out of the box and working, I questioned the longevity repairabilty and general life Expectancy
it is like Nassion building a Mercedes-Benz and charging $5000.00 for it.
It will start and run but for how long, and how far will it travel before breaking down. would any of us expect to get the same reliability I guess we would. When I put my family’s safety in to the hands of manufactured equipment I would load them into the original time tested Mercedes not the knock off. The only thing worse than not having what we need to survive, is thinking we have what we need but it won’t fulfill the need we placed in it.

I guess I really need to except that people will all ways take the shortest cheapest and quickest way and continue to wonder why we failed in getting there, It’s really just human nature.

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January 15, 2017 theoutback 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ok Outback, i’m expecting a full and complete report soon. Those things been in my Amazon basket WAY too long.

I’ll give ya a report Ray, for what it’s worth. Again, I’m as comms deficient as you. I’ve just used the FM and it seems to be a good radio. I’m out in the sticks and it came in clear as can be. I’ve got a couple hand crank AM/FM weather radio’s, these came in much clearer. As far as battery life and such, I can’t tell ya. I’ve got to work in my orchards today, I’ll bring one out to have some music while I’m pruning. They’ve got a full charge, give you a report on that later.

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January 15, 2017 theoutback 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
Ok Outback, i’m expecting a full and complete report soon. Those things been in my Amazon basket WAY too long.

I’ll give ya a report Ray, for what it’s worth. Again, I’m as comms deficient as you. I’ve just used the FM and it seems to be a good radio. I’m out in the sticks and it came in clear as can be. I’ve got a couple hand crank AM/FM weather radio’s, these came in much clearer. As far as battery life and such, I can’t tell ya. I’ve got to work in my orchards today, I’ll bring one out to have some music while I’m pruning. They’ve got a full charge, give you a report on that later.

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January 14, 2017 theoutback 0

Thanks for your insight Scoutmaster. I’m sure you get what you pay for. I did get a couple of those UV-5R’s in yesterday from Amazon, put them together, read and watched a couple vids on them. Seems very easy to use and I listened to an FM channel. I thought the sound was real good and that station came in real good for my area. I’m going to program in some of the local weather, police, etc. tomorrow to see how that goes. I’ll try and get together with a friend that has been into them forever to learn from. Who knows, I might just love it and get into it big time.I’m still going to read up and find some good two ways…..Again, thanks for your input.

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January 14, 2017 Scoutmaster 0

Most of the newer Hts are horribly expensive, The Baofang and the like cheap radios are really doing very little to drive down the prices on the brand name ones. What I have done is to watch for the much older brand name equipment I have bought the Icom, yaesu, kenwood hand held’s for $50 to $75 each. some 20 to 30 years old and still work like new some even look new.

There are many that are in rough shape, but many times you will also find then that are all most like new. Many of them either cover the emergency services and marine bands with a slight mod or some just as they are. Most of these radios have battries that will last for a long time when still giving 4 or 5 watts out. They have a good strong BNC antenna connector rather than a mini something or other that will break with normal use. Lots of drop in charger on the market and even just a normal charger for the batteries. Many have AA and AAA cases that can be used on them so you have a verity of ways to power the radio. If you drop them and break the volume or squelch control’s if you have any repair ability you can take it apart and repair it. Try doing that with a Baofang or for that matter some of the new brand name radios.

Don’t get me wrong I think some of the cheap ones have there place as in practice and simulated events
rather than put the ware and tare on the radios you plan to use during an event. That is where the big differences came up for us if you drop it or two people on patrol talking to each other one with the older radios and the other person with the cheap rig it shows up quickly.

We all need something we can depend on for who knows how long. I really hate to see people buy and depend something and then find it will not give what they expect..That really apply s to people that only buy one or two radios have no back ups for what ever reason. Family radios are really great for that for that. It says right on the package up to 15 miles. Many people feel that will be enough buy it put it away and will get a big surprise when they need it. In the real world you are lucky if you get a mile. Drop it and it quits.

I really have no idea how many people or groups are out there that really do drills practice and use the equipment they plan on using. after talking to many many of those it seems not many. So if we can’t talk them unto trying out the equipment at least they should know what to depend on and what not to.

Just my two cents.

Statistics: Posted by Scoutmaster — Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:44 am