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Guns • Re: Remington 700’s

March 3, 2017 RayMac1963 0

That show/investigation (call it what you want) was on again last night. I only caught the last 5 min, but i set my DVR to get an upcoming showing. I think it was going to be on CNBC Saturday or Sunday if anyone is interested. The important part is they give the code to know which trigger kit was used in the gun. Thats important because apparently they were making both types for a number of years, so you can’t just go by the production date. I still want a 700, i just want to be able to make sure i get the right X-Pro trigger.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 3, 2017 IceFire 0

I also think the caliber debate is silly. I have .22, ,380, .38, 9mm, .40, and .45, as well as several rifle and shotgun calibers/gauges. (oh, and .45LC, as well.) What I carry is usually determined by what I’m doing and what I’m wearing. It’s not so much about caliber, as it is SHOT PLACEMENT (unless you’re out hunting, then tailor the caliber to the size game.)

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Guns • Re: Misconceptions About Pistol Sights

March 2, 2017 headhunter 0

I didn’t want to leave my iron sights, I had just shot one of my best strings and took out 9 bowling pins in 6 seconds. The next shooter took out 9 in a little over 3 seconds using a red dot. Lasers are also quick and light and small. Fiber optics really help “old” eyes. Night sights are excellent. I was sold on “Big Dot” and a friend showed uo with Tru -Glo fiber optic and Trinium. My M&P presently has the factory Crimson -Trace and Tru-Glo. My revolvers almost all wear green fiber optic front sights (with the red,I feel there is to much of a halo). I will own up to having a 2X Leopold on my super accurate Ruger Competition. Not always is it well lit and bright. As far as BK in KC, some people dismiss thinking the bullet to the target- I won’t. The force be with you.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 2, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
BK in KC wrote:
I’m with Terp and Dirk on this, pistol caliber debates are silly. 9, 40, 45 are all viable as are many other calibers, just use what you’re comfortable with. If you have a shotgun or rifle handy when it goes down then use that instead.

I agree on this. It really comes down to practice and placement under stress reliably no matter the caliber.
***I personally think firearm manufacture is 20X more important than caliber choice in said manufacture. If you have a FTF/malfunction it matters not the caliber you’re running…lol.

I have 3 .9’s, 1 .40, an 2 .45’s- All in the same manufacture (among some others as well)—I’ll run all 3 on different day’s in an IDPA, steel, or 3 gun shoot and while I’ll tend to run my .9 the most I think that’s really just for the cost.

The .45 did take me longer to feel I was getting on point, but with that I’d also disclose the .45 is my bedside gun of choice now where it was the .9 before owning the .45 for a while…..this is just something you decide personally over time as sometimes you can “Just be having a bad day” on the range.

Take from that whatever you will for the topic of discussion….

Good post CI….

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 2, 2017 handyman777 0

I really have no interest in a 40 cal., 9 and 45 are my main calibers. For semi.
That said, I have been looking for a smith and wesson model 610, revolver, they shoot 10mm and can also shoot 40 cal. w/moon clips. just another one to add to the collection. Once this is acquired then maybe I’ll look for a pistol in 40 cal., to complement one another.
No rush – no hurry.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 2, 2017 BK in KC 0

I’m with Terp and Dirk on this in that pistol caliber debates are silly. 9, 40, 45 are all viable as are many other calibers, just use what you’re comfortable with.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 2, 2017 RayMac1963 0

9 wins. Why? Because i already have 9s and a whole bunch of stored 9mm ammo, so i’m too far down the 9 path to even listen to your rational argument. so 9 wins…

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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

March 1, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

I’ve owned them in AR pistols. Not anything to sing praise. If your doing that route, like the guys are saying 458 socom we have a couple in our group, not me anymore, but their a beast.

It’s not widely known but SF raiders are using these in Urban operations. They hit like a freight train, heck one of the guys elk hunts with his, in the deep brush. Took a smallish bull at 40/50 yards in a small clearing, said the elk dropped instantly, was DRT, on the spot.

Also,ammo is spendy, very very spendy. I had looked into dies and associated loading stuff a few years ago. Good god. Crazy expensive to re load. I traded the 458 off. Was taking me back imto odd and unusual calibers, something I’ve been trying to get away from.

DW

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 1, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Whatever you have is what HAS to work. The potential,problem with the .40 like the 10mm is if the bullet gets pushed deeper into the case, your pressures are going to,sky rocket, causing the usual pressure issues.

This generally happens if one continues to clear the chamber, and reseat the same bullet back into the mag, often. I’m sure their are other causes. My wife loves her P-35 9 mm, ” browning hi power” I’ve got a couple and they are the standard most classic pistols are following. And the 1911.

I’ve just shot and carried a 1911 for so long, I feel guilty if I carry something else.

The 9 or the .40 will,both get the job done. A pistol shoot principal is shoot until the target is combat ineffective. Their’s a reason the cop shoot outs are running thru so many rounds.

If they knew they were going to,a gun fight, they would take their rifles,or shotguns. The pistol is your intermediate solution, ideally.

Dirk

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 1, 2017 terrapin 0

Okay. Here’s the thing;
We can talk caliber all day long.
What it comes down to, is…
where are you gonna put that piece of lead?

A .40 cal is totally worthless if it don’t go where you need it.

A .22 can get the job done if it is well placed.

So, let’s talk about the things that really count.
Like making yer own wine . Or growing some veggies, or cows or goats, or,
who knows what…
This ” 9mm vs .40 cal ” debate is really silly.
C’mon…

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

March 1, 2017 Cast Iron 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:

donba wrote:That gun is ugly ugly. It is even uglier than my first wife. Driven how did you get a full auto in calif ?

lol Don…. :rofl:

Dont you know any gun in full auto is a beautiful thing to behold…Even in Zero-G mind you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzijuZof1w

I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. :p

Class III lic in CA allows full auto BUT, I do not have so mine is not full.

I have shot it full auto though….Everything in CA is as fast as you can pull for most of us.

The recoil mitigation for me is very noticeable Vs. my M4….both in semi and full….Massive difference in full.

Agreed on the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
For me, nothing is more attractive than a M14/M1A. Just the feel of the weight, the way it points, the action, the trigger, and when you squeeze the trigger and send a round downrange . . . whew!

I have shot GI M4s on three round burst on more than a few occasions.
If your target is not room clearing distance, the odds of you hitting any thing past fifty yards without some serious pulled in tight hold, are slim.

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

March 1, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
donba wrote:
That gun is ugly ugly. It is even uglier than my first wife. Driven how did you get a full auto in calif ?

lol Don…. :rofl:

Dont you know any gun in full auto is a beautiful thing to behold…Even in Zero-G mind you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzijuZof1w

I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. :p

Class III lic in CA allows full auto BUT, I do not have so mine is not full.

I have shot it full auto though….Everything in CA is as fast as you can pull for most of us.

The recoil mitigation for me is very noticeable Vs. my M4….both in semi and full….Massive difference in full.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 1, 2017 Cast Iron 0

I do not have either the 9 nor the 40.

However, I took a self-defense pistol class for a former operator and VIP bodyguard in the Green Zone.
He preferred 9 . . . only if it was +P HP.
Ball ammunition, no way.

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

March 1, 2017 Cast Iron 0
donba wrote:
That gun is ugly ugly. It is even uglier than my first wife. Driven how did you get a full auto in calif ?

With all due respect, Donba, the Kriss is a lot prettier than any AR15, any day of the week . . . and maybe your first wife??? :blush:

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 1, 2017 donba 0

I don’t have a dog in this fight. I just don’t like the 40, I do shoot both the 45 and the 9 and like both……

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

February 28, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
Cast Iron wrote:

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:I own one. I’ve had it about 5 months now…love it.

Add the Eotech to the top rail and that’s my weapon.

The recoil mitigation is exactly as they brag about. Within 3 magazines I had it on point…It was really easy to figure out.
watch this in full auto slow motion at 1:45 here…note the barrel rise…lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIZzXqWtzM

—-Glock mags (which I have about 15 of) made it fun.

I’ve heard of a few failure to feed issues with underpowered loads/remanufactured ammunition but I haven’t had any….I only have about 150-200 rounds downrange so far so the jury is still out but it certainly is fun to shoot.

Field strip is as easy as the Glock too…

I plan a serious test here soon with different ammunitions various factory standard loads and remanufactured to try to cause a FTF. (I’ll even sacrifice 2-3 boxes of Hornaday critical duty to check it out)

Driven, thank you for chiming in.
Always good to hear real world comments, feedback on a given platform.

Do you have any criticism of your Kriss? Or, perhaps if you had your druthers, you would prefer a change, modification, additional feature?

I am going to assume you have done a lot of research on this firearm before dropping that kind of money. Any known mechanical failures or breakages?

As Illini Warrior points out, spare parts for a not so common firearm be an issue?

You are correct sir. Lots and Lots of research on this before pulling the trigger. 2 years of hemming and hawing before pulling the Trigger…Literally…lol.

So the V1 had a few issues, but I still really wanted it. I didn’t and thankful on that. KRISS adjusted some things to help with the FTF issues. Like I said I haven’t had any on my V2 Enhanced but I have seen and heard just like the Glock a flinch or a “limp wrist” can cause a FTF malfunction…I’ve experienced it on my .9, .45, and .40 Glocks and EVERY time I had a FTF it was my fault.

You do see one malfunction in the video link above and notice he immediately identified it as a flinch malfunction…No others in the entire vid.

While I agree that a different with breakage is bad ju-ju in SHTF, I bought mine as a fun gun and not a primary weapon platform….I have a good size collection so this hurts me none.

My multiple M4’s were all bought with Direct Impingement instead of Piston for this exact reason….Odds of finding the same piston rod/assembly in SHTF failure are very low as each manufacture has a different spin on their piston design.(in general)…..Hence the decision for DI uppers….Drop and swap abilities if needed in a SHTF scenario.

Like I said the jury is still out on my final opinion without at least 1000 rds downrange, but I am liking what I hear and have seen on the V2.

If I was to be hyper critical at this point the only thing I can see some shooters needing to wrap their heads around is the mag release for right handed shooters. The natural inclination on your off hand thumb position it right where the mag release is. An unintentional mag drop is possible if not aware. Easily mitigated but non the less thought I’d mention it.

I have not had to deal with them but the reputation of KRISS in the USA is EXCEPTIONAL for any customer service……There was one guy on youtube that was thrashing them but he was in Canada and from what I hear, that was a country issue, not KRISS’s..That was also on the V1 with the known an addressed issues…I can say either way but that’s what I found in years of research.

Bottom line so far……. Awesome, fun gun….Recoil mitigation is excelled by none that I have shot(which is many). Charging handle and FTF issues were fixed well in the V2 update, Love the stock change, Trigger feel reset is great, but I wouldn’t say the absolute best out there. If you have to have the long barrel the new shroud really makes it a head turner.

This is a specialty gun platform…..UBER cool to own but I personally wouldn’t make it my only SHTF platform for a WROL situation

That’s what my Daniel Defense’s are for…. ;)

As with all things prepping….One = none, and two = one……I just have a few more than 2. ;)

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

February 28, 2017 Cast Iron 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I own one. I’ve had it about 5 months now…love it.

Add the Eotech to the top rail and that’s my weapon.

The recoil mitigation is exactly as they brag about. Within 3 magazines I had it on point…It was really easy to figure out.
watch this in full auto slow motion at 1:45 here…note the barrel rise…lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIZzXqWtzM

—-Glock mags (which I have about 15 of) made it fun.

I’ve heard of a few failure to feed issues with underpowered loads/remanufactured ammunition but I haven’t had any….I only have about 150-200 rounds downrange so far so the jury is still out but it certainly is fun to shoot.

Field strip is as easy as the Glock too…

I plan a serious test here soon with different ammunitions various factory standard loads and remanufactured to try to cause a FTF. (I’ll even sacrifice 2-3 boxes of Hornaday critical duty to check it out)

Driven, thank you for chiming in.
Always good to hear real world comments, feedback on a given platform.

Do you have any criticism of your Kriss? Or, perhaps if you had your druthers, you would prefer a change, modification, additional feature?

I am going to assume you have done a lot of research on this firearm before dropping that kind of money. Any known mechanical failures or breakages?

As Illini Warrior points out, spare parts for a not so common firearm be an issue?

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Guns • Re: Hand guns and go bags in the lower 48 states?

February 28, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

a whole lot depends on the circumstances and what law enforcement department you’re dealing with …. what gets a pass from a state trooper on a “I’m passing thru the state interstate” will get you reamed to the 9th degree from a county cop or city PD ….

the gun regs detailed in the New Jersey state link will get you thru almost any state situation – whether you follow it 100% of the time – I’d be ready with that set-up for the more troubling states and cities …. stopping a minute to secure the weapon in a cargo/tool compartment lock box is 1000X better than a court reaming ….

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Guns • Re: Something Different – Kriss

February 28, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

I own one. I’ve had it about 5 months now…love it.

Add the Eotech to the top rail and that’s my weapon.

The recoil mitigation is exactly as they brag about. Within 3 magazines I had it on point…It was really easy to figure out.
watch this in full auto slow motion at 1:45 here…note the barrel rise…lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIZzXqWtzM

—-Glock mags (which I have about 15 of) made it fun.

I’ve heard of a few failure to feed issues with underpowered loads/remanufactured ammunition but I haven’t had any….I only have about 150-200 rounds downrange so far so the jury is still out but it certainly is fun to shoot.

Field strip is as easy as the Glock too…

I plan a serious test here soon with different ammunitions various factory standard loads and remanufactured to try to cause a FTF. (I’ll even sacrifice 2-3 boxes of Hornaday critical duty to check it out)

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

February 28, 2017 Stahlrosen 0

Hornandy came out to the range not too long ago showing off the new Critical Duty 9mm ammo. I wasn’t there for the session, but from what I understand it preformed every bit as well as the 40. Hubby insisted I had to carry a 40 because up until recently the 9mm hasn’t had the stopping power, but I guess the demo was impressive enough that Hubby changed out my barrel on the Glock. And yes, now I have more rounds in the magazine, which was another consideration in the swap. I didn’t mind the recoil on the 40, just something you get used to with practice. I really didn’t think it was that big of a deal, but from what I understand even many of the guys complain about it. Of course those are probably the same ones that only shoot at qualification and never practice :crazy: I’ll probably just continue to practice with both.

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Guns • Re: Hand guns and go bags in the lower 48 states?

February 27, 2017 handyman777 0

Put a trigger lock on it and keep your (clip-mag) loaded and separate.
Just keep the key for the lock handy or use a combination trigger lock and have it off by one number so its quick and easy to open.
Most states if the the bullets and gun are separate you should be OK.
If its in your go-bag, you still have to dig it out. Its not concealed on your person.
I would try and find the rules for the different states you travel…cali. and new york???? I don’t know how they work, not good from what I hear.

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Guns • Hand guns and go bags in the lower 48 states?

February 27, 2017 RollingwithR 0

Me and my wife drive a truck over the road in all the lower 48 states. We want to add a 9mm to each of the go bags we carry on our truck. I know plenty of drivers who concealed carry a loaded weapon everywhere they go, but when I ask how they do it legaly the answers ether it’s legal at home or worse I don’t care if it’s legal. Now I’m not looking for daily personal carry I just want the 9mm tucked away in my go bag somewhere on my truck. I know the odds of it ever being found are low but I still want to be as legal as possible. So is there a method of legal storage of a firearm in a vehicle that works in all 48 states? For all you non truckers out there keep in mind a big truck doesn’t have a trunk or glove box. Instead we have under the bunk and little cubbies and cabinets that all are accessible from inside the cab. Think really small rv without the bathroom…. thanks in advance for any input here.

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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

February 27, 2017 Cast Iron 0
orangetom1999 wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:I took a look at it when it first came out. Back then there was not as many bullets available.

Brass is not common, but then again neither are the .45Thumper, or the .458SOCOM.
Not sure if you can use other brass to make those.

While looking around, some mentioned it was likely easier to find 45-70govt than any of the above.

It is a good looking round. I can understand your interest.

Good point Cast Iron about using other brass to form this case.

I don’t think so as I recall this case has a rim on the end of it which is smaller than the case where in the powder resides.

This is a very unusual case in the manner it is manufactured.

I can convert 30.06 to 7.7mm Japanese…to .308…to .243..and also .223 to 7mm TCU. But this one .50 Beowulf is a very unusual case.

Best to try to buy this brass in bulk where possible.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Looking through various reloading manuals, I recall some cases using the 45-70govt as the parent case then necked down, or trimmed to form the new case.
It may have been the .45Thumper or the .458SOCOM I am thinking of. Do not have the manual here in front of me to say.

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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

February 27, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Cast Iron wrote:
I took a look at it when it first came out. Back then there was not as many bullets available.

Brass is not common, but then again neither are the .45Thumper, or the .458SOCOM.
Not sure if you can use other brass to make those.

While looking around, some mentioned it was likely easier to find 45-70govt than any of the above.

It is a good looking round. I can understand your interest.

Good point Cast Iron about using other brass to form this case.

I don’t think so as I recall this case has a rim on the end of it which is smaller than the case where in the powder resides.

This is a very unusual case in the manner it is manufactured.

I can convert 30.06 to 7.7mm Japanese…to .308…to .243..and also .223 to 7mm TCU. But this one .50 Beowulf is a very unusual case.

Best to try to buy this brass in bulk where possible.

Thanks,
Orangetom

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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

February 26, 2017 Cast Iron 0

I took a look at it when it first came out. Back then there was not as many bullets available.

Brass is not common, but then again neither are the .45Thumper, or the .458SOCOM.
Not sure if you can use other brass to make those.

While looking around, some mentioned it was likely easier to find 45-70govt than any of the above.

It is a good looking round. I can understand your interest.

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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

February 26, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Yeah…this is an expensive round. I found this out with .41 Magnum…expensive. Hence I am learning to roll my own ammo in this calibration.

Were I to own a .50 Beowulf…It would be the same thing…rolling my own. That Brass is more uncommon than .41 Magnum.

But .50 Beowulf is a powerful close up round with heavy penetration. One would verily need such penetration and energy delivery to justify such a rifle.

I would myself, for that expense, prefer 12 gauge slug…up close.

The interesting thing about the AR platforms is the variation of calibers in which it can be found.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:43 am