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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 11, 2017 Photon Guy 0
rj5156 wrote:
Lot of helpful information here. I appreciate it. I ran a search and did not find any threads on the Taurus Judge. Hope I did not miss one?

Thinking about getting serious about a Judge. Lot to like about it. We’ve got wild pigs, mountain lions, coyotes and poisonous snakes here now and while the judge might not be the best for any one of these, it is the only thing I would actually carry around, that might get me out of a jam with any of them so long as I keep my cool. I’m not interested in shooting the unless it is necessary. Well. Maybe the pigs, we like pork!

I’ve done some research, I like the 3 inch cylinder and 6 inch barrel. Looks like alternating .410 buckshot loads with .45 long colt rounds would be about right. It weighs in at two pounds, not a lot different than the government 45 I’ve been dragging around.

I like that it can share ammo with my .410, make reloading simpler. Hubby Brian is interested in a couple things that use the 45 colt rounds, so he would have a fine excuse to buy one of those!

Anybody got one? Do you like it? Pros / cons? I’m interested in gloves to help with recoil too, if anyone has used them? Kind of like ear plugs, I know I won’t have the on if I ever need to use it but why do any more damage than necessary?

Might be time to take a field trip to Knob Creek shooting range. I’ve always wanted to shoot some of the really big guns! See if they’ve got a Judge I can run some rounds through.

I’ve never had a Taurus and from what I know they’re a decent brand but nothing super spectacular. I’ve never been a big Taurus fan and the Taurus Judge, if you ask me, is a bit ugly looking but that’s just me. For dealing with the critters you mentioned I would go with a Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum which can be loaded with snake shot as well as the regular .44 slugs. Barrel lengths come at anywhere from 2.75 to 7.50 and various lengths in between. I am a big Ruger fan, especially for the revolvers. From my experience when you buy a Ruger revolver you get what you pay for and more.

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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 11, 2017 IceFire 0

Yes, mine has the steel frame. I have found that the steel frames absorb and distribute the recoil MUCH better than polymer frames.

I don’t reload as of yet. It is something that I want to learn how to do, but I am NOT about to try it without someone teaching me “hands on”, while they are there to correct any mistakes I might make BEFORE I find out the hard way!

Yes, the great thing about the Judge is that you CAN put different loads in it, depending on what you might run in to. That is EXACTLY why we bought it.

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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 11, 2017 rj5156 0
IceFire wrote:
I’ve had a Judge since they first came out (back then, they had a 2 1/2 inch cylinder.) When shooting with .45LC ammo, the recoil is pretty well absorbed by the “ribbing” on the rubber grip. When shooting with the 410 gauge shells, there is more of a tendency for “muzzle flip”, and more felt recoil. Unless you plan on spending quite a bit of time at the range shooting, though, it’s not that big of an issue.

When I go deer hunting, I take it along as a sidearm…with a couple rounds of “snake shot”, some 000 buckshot, and a couple of slugs or 45LC loaded. When I’m out in the woods, I never know if I might encounter rattlesnakes, javelinas, bears, or 2 legged “critters”. The Judge lets me be ready to handle any threats.

Thank you IceFire! Everything I hoped for when I asked:) I take it yours has the steel frame? I lean heavily that direction myself. It’s been around a very long time and we’ve got everything we need to fix metal, not that I’d expect it to need repairs. Maybe I’m just old-fashioned?

Brian is starting to get interested, he’s wondering about a duplex load in the .410s with bbs and #2s. Don’t let me fool you, I enjoy reloading as a repetitive task but don’t know much of anything about it. Do you buy your ammo or reload or both?

I really appreciate your comments about how you load it, that is just what I want from the gun and it sounds like a real working tool, loaded as you described.

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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 11, 2017 IceFire 0

I’ve had a Judge since they first came out (back then, they had a 2 1/2 inch cylinder.) When shooting with .45LC ammo, the recoil is pretty well absorbed by the “ribbing” on the rubber grip. When shooting with the 410 gauge shells, there is more of a tendency for “muzzle flip”, and more felt recoil. Unless you plan on spending quite a bit of time at the range shooting, though, it’s not that big of an issue.

When I go deer hunting, I take it along as a sidearm…with a couple rounds of “snake shot”, some 000 buckshot, and a couple of slugs or 45LC loaded. When I’m out in the woods, I never know if I might encounter rattlesnakes, javelinas, bears, or 2 legged “critters”. The Judge lets me be ready to handle any threats.

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Guns • Taurus Judge

February 10, 2017 rj5156 0

Lot of helpful information here. I appreciate it. I ran a search and did not find any threads on the Taurus Judge. Hope I did not miss one?

Thinking about getting serious about a Judge. Lot to like about it. We’ve got wild pigs, mountain lions, coyotes and poisonous snakes here now and while the judge might not be the best for any one of these, it is the only thing I would actually carry around, that might get me out of a jam with any of them so long as I keep my cool. I’m not interested in shooting the unless it is necessary. Well. Maybe the pigs, we like pork!

I’ve done some research, I like the 3 inch cylinder and 6 inch barrel. Looks like alternating .410 buckshot loads with .45 long colt rounds would be about right. It weighs in at two pounds, not a lot different than the government 45 I’ve been dragging around.

I like that it can share ammo with my .410, make reloading simpler. Hubby Brian is interested in a couple things that use the 45 colt rounds, so he would have a fine excuse to buy one of those!

Anybody got one? Do you like it? Pros / cons? I’m interested in gloves to help with recoil too, if anyone has used them? Kind of like ear plugs, I know I won’t have the on if I ever need to use it but why do any more damage than necessary?

Might be time to take a field trip to Knob Creek shooting range. I’ve always wanted to shoot some of the really big guns! See if they’ve got a Judge I can run some rounds through.

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Guns • Re: 1911 Shoulder Holster

February 10, 2017 rj5156 0
Mountain wrote:
I’m looking for a shoulder holster for my Colt series 70 government 1911. I’ve seen a leather military model that looked ok. Anybody use one. If you have a setup that works good I’d like to hear about it. I will use it while in the woods, hunting, and wearing it around town when I get my CCW.

Me too Mountain. Appreciate you asking – and all the helpful replies. Sure saves a lot of time and frustration.

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 9, 2017 PREPPEDVET 0
Major French wrote:
Sorry, I don’t know anything about .308 AR lowers. But I did do research for , both user interviews and online, before I decided to add to AR to to my collection, 3rd team leader for Kanawha Valley Communications Team[KVCT]. We did armed civilian search and rescue, too.

Major French wrote:
They have so many good features that they can be trusted from the start to run well as is. My M&P 15 Sport II, but I chose to pimp royally before even shooting the thing. Runs 100% so modified. The SP-1 is the semi-junk AR-15 that gave the Civilian AR-15 a bad name.This is totally separate from the Vietnam M16 ammo failures that got people killed. with jammed weapons. In 1982 however, Eagle Arms introduced today ‘s AR-15. A sturdier and much more reliable weapon that changed many minds-mine included -bout Armalite.

:eek::?
As a 12 year ARMY vet from a combat arms MOS and a unit armorer for part of that those years, no offense, but have you actually fired each of these 3 you listed? Have you fired say a Colt, a Bushmaster, a DPMS, A CMMG, or DSA or Anderson, PSA or any of the other numerous mil-spec AR-15s? The rifles you mention are not bad rifles or from bad companies, but they have nothing whatsoever different in terms of their firing mechanisms as any other standard mil-spec ARs. They aren’t even true mil-spec entirely either as stand rifling twist rate in an A2/ M4 is 1:7, the twist rate of the M16A1E and A2E is 1/12, the 3 you listed are 1:8. They all use the same gas impingement system, the same bolt, the same M4 style feed ramps. Other than some sales gimmicky items added one to look “tacticool” what are the advantages????
I own a Ruger AR556, as well as a 3 others that I personally built, there is really nothing I can honestly say that sets it apart from other ARs. Except for the name maybe. Oh and that it came with a flip up sight. Only reason I even got it was it was on sale and I was wanting another one. But function wise, its no better, no worse than other ARs I own and shoot. Are there “junk” AR makers, absolutely, but you’ve provided no examples other that “superior features” that these rifles are better.

contrarian wrote:
So a question, similar to the OP, I’d like to get a base lower that I can then modify. In my case I’m interested in a 308 upper as a choice. What are reliable Makers for such a dual-use system

What do you mean by a dual use system? A 308 upper is pretty much limited to 308 length rounds such as the 6.5 Creedmoor. All of which are very well suited for medium range engagements.
I’m assuming you’re wanting a rifle that can handle the 100 and closer area of the spectrum as well as medium range when you say dual purpose? If so, I suggest ditching the .308. It’s a fine round and I own 2 such rifles. However, I recommend a 6.5 Grendel AR. It performs very well in close range but works even better at distances up to 1200 yards. And, after about 400 -600 yards, it outperforms .308 in every ballistic category include energy, drift, speed etc. And the nice part, it uses 85% standard mil spec 5.56 AR parts. The only 6.5 Grendel specific parts are the bolt, the barrel and the mag follower. The rest are all standard mil-spec AR 15/M16/M4 parts. Which means, you can use the same lower receiver and simply swap back and forth between 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel if you want, thus saving you the need for a 2nd lower. And consumable parts are the exact same so if you’d break a spring or a gas ring, you’ll be able to find parts pretty much anywhere.

Ammo is a concern but availability is on the rise, and its currently being tested by both the Corp and the Army to potentially replace both the M1A and the M16/M4 platforms. If that does in fact happen, ammo will rapidly become easily available. Until then, reload and the internet. It’s cheaper than .308 ammo too.

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Guns • Re: Ammo Question:

February 9, 2017 PREPPEDVET 0
Major French wrote:
Freedom Munitions Ammo, good or bad? Thank you in advance.

I had one issue with a box of their 9mm back in 2010. about half of them didnt fire and I had 2 squibs out of that box out of 50 rounds. I called them and they had me email them pics, which i did. they took down my information, lot number of the box etc, said they’d investigate. Wasn’t expecting anything to come from it, just wanted to make them aware for safety reasons. 3 days later, I came home to a fedexed box containing a 350 round bulk box of their 9mm with a note apologizing. I’ve since shot probably 3-4 thousand of their stuff without a single new issue. They stood by their product and made up for the issue. So :gunshooting: the crap out of it

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 3, 2017 Major French 0
Dirk Williams wrote:
Lipps, that was my point. I know nothing of the rifles named by our new friend, I’m not knocking then, trying to learn. When you can pick amycolt up for a grand or under, it’s a awesome deal.

Every rifle on the market aspires to be a colt. Zero upgrades required, everything is done right. The colt is the Standard for any AR.

I build high end ARs for fun, and out of being board. Like 2500.00 apiece rifles. I stopped and started to purchase Colts again. I do change some stuff out, but those are personal preference things, like flat triggers.

My favorite Colt is the 6940 monolithic upper, in the 1400.00 range but in my opinion that extra stiff upper makes for a better shooter, accuracy is noticeably better.

So back to my question for our friend Mr. Major. What makes these other rifles better? They have reliability enhancing features not commonly on most affordable AR-15s, too.

As for the M1a, rumor has it, I’ve got a couple, also a socom m14 a Berretta 59 and a 62. These are italian m-14s for their mountain troops, they use a different 20 round mag, which is difficult to,source.

. My favorite is a real M 14 E with the switch removed, for semi only. One of my builds next fall will be an ART-21 system. Using the Krieger barrel.

I like guns, keep up the chit chat!

Dirk
Dirk

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 3, 2017 Major French 0
Dirk Williams wrote:
Regardless of your choice of the week, just do yourself a favor and use quality parts. While I like JP stuff, a lot of its proprietary, meaning only functions in their rifles.again good stuff, just determine which parts are interchangeable parts.

Enjoy your building, it’s a lot of fun, and really not a difficult task.

Best to,you.

Dirk

Wisdom worth following, indeed.

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 3, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Regardless of your choice of the week, just do yourself a favor and use quality parts. While I like JP stuff, a lot of its proprietary, meaning only functions in their rifles.again good stuff, just determine which parts are interchangeable parts.

Enjoy your building, it’s a lot of fun, and really not a difficult task.

Best to,you.

Dirk

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 2, 2017 hancockcounty 0

Just took out a bob cat yeasterday morning at 300 yards with my daniels Defense ddm4v11 with a stiener 5.56 scope.
I did modify the trigger with atn gold trigger and the buffer spring from JP enterprises.
Go with a quality AR make sure it is mil spec and not the cheap companies out there that compromise one thing or the other. Here is my list-
Daniel Defense
Larue Tactical
Brovo comp
Neveske
And JP enterprises.

JP i would put far above the rest.
I own a Daniels and have a JP on order…

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 2, 2017 ajax727 0

I have two friends that build them everyday that is there job now, one an x MP the other x LEO . The MP we raised up in my household he had two tours in the sandbox , the LEO married my cousin so I will have great help on the build . The build will be done at the LEO home .I hope to have all the parts purchased and them build by the end of July for my birthday . As my renters pay there rent , a small amount has been earmarked for the parts (bills come first ), per wife’s orders she thinks I have way too many toys now .

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 2, 2017 handyman777 0
ajax727 wrote:
handyman777 thanks on the advice about the needed tools will add them to the list .
I think the first one will be with the 1×7 m4 barrel , the 1×7 should do better at longer ranges . I hope to build a nice little AR that will be as good as the competition rifles being built . The ammo I have purchased so far has been BT SP for hunting in several different brands .will have to see what it likes to eat when I get all the parts and put them together . I got all the ammo my brother had after he passed away so I have a good supply put back green black and orange tips along with hunting type ammo in 556 .

One (must have) tool I forgot to list is a vice block for your upper receiver; you will need this when you install the barrel nut and they should come with an alignment tool for the gas tube.

I’m more familiar with the rifles with the gas tube, then the piston driven models.
I googled the piston and found that its really a mixed opinion, just like everything else.
I figure if it works for me why change it….and have to keep more spare parts on hand.

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February 2, 2017 Major French 0

Donba, actually, think your .308-armed bud doing long distance work while you use the an AR for for under foot ball field-length threats, too.
I hope some day to add a .280 or 7mm Mauser to my collection. AK, AR and handguns for now.

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 2, 2017 ajax727 0

handyman777 thanks on the advice about the needed tools will add them to the list .
I think the first one will be with the 1×7 m4 barrel , the 1×7 should do better at longer ranges . I hope to build a nice little AR that will be as good as the competition rifles being built . The ammo I have purchased so far has been BT SP for hunting in several different brands .will have to see what it likes to eat when I get all the parts and put them together . I got all the ammo my brother had after he passed away so I have a good supply put back green black and orange tips along with hunting type ammo in 556 .

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 handyman777 0

ajax-get the tools you need for the job…barrel wrench, torque wrench(for barrel nut)…etc. , and a good schematic for the build. Its easy and a good learning experience.Watch some you tube videos.

I’ve made special tools-“that 5/64 roll pin on the front sight for the gas tube is not easy to install”, same with that little C-clip on the rod for the dust cover door. If you have old eyes get a pair of 3X glasses.

So over time I’ve made a few tools to make the job easier.

My last “upper” build, and this was completely stripped (lots of parts)…I went “old school”-used an A2 upper (permanent carry handle-not flat top). Barrel- m4 1:7, 16″ mid-length gas block and iron sights–interesting rifle — old tech – met – new tech.
Only problem I have found with this build was the m4 feed ramps did not want to work with the A2 upper (hit and miss – feeding issue) so I used some small round jewelers files and round stones and opened up and polished the feed ramps on the receiver. some mags worked some didn’t and i want every mag to work. Seems to work on a dry run still have to check under fire.

I know some people don’t care for the (a2 style – carry handle but this was something I wanted…nice lite rifle,just over 6 lbs.

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 ajax727 0

There was a question about 308 in AR platform . All I can say is check out DEL-TON .
Now my question what twist do y’all like in the 556 ?
I have been purchasing parts for a build one part at a time for a little while but times 3 – I like spare parts . It may end up to be three builds because I picked up 3 different twist barrel 1×7 1×9 bull barrel 1×9 the other day . I do know one fact there are a lot and I mean a lot of little parts . I do have a friend that builds them so when I get all the parts we will assemble one or three . Also i picked up the drop in one piece trigger set 2lb and I think 3 or 3,5 both curved I have had them a while . I know i could have just purchased a kit and been done but by building one one piece at the time will give me the knowledge needed .

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 Dirk Williams 0

Lipps, that was my point. I know nothing of the rifles named by our new friend, I’m not knocking then, trying to learn. When you can pick amycolt up for a grand or under, it’s a awesome deal.

Every rifle on the market aspires to be a colt. Zero upgrades required, everything is done right. The colt is the Standard for any AR.

I build high end ARs for fun, and out of being board. Like 2500.00 apiece rifles. I stopped and started to purchase Colts again. I do change some stuff out, but those are personal preference things, like flat triggers.

My favorite Colt is the 6940 monolithic upper, in the 1400.00 range but in my opinion that extra stiff upper makes for a better shooter, accuracy is noticeably better.

So back to my question for our friend Mr. Major. What makes these other rifles better?

As for the M1a, rumor has it, I’ve got a couple, also a socom m14 a Berretta 59 and a 62. These are italian m-14s for their mountain troops, they use a different 20 round mag, which is difficult to,source.

. My favorite is a real M 14 E with the switch removed, for semi only. One of my builds next fall will be an ART-21 system. Using the Krieger barrel.

I like guns, keep up the chit chat!

Dirk
Dirk

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 BK in KC 0
Cast Iron wrote:

danthman114 wrote:And yes, I would take my m1a over my AR 15s any day..

Dan The Man,

Well of course. It is a better rifle all the way around.

It’s heavier and you can’t carry as much ammo so I would say it all depends on what you’re using the rifle for as to which is better. But I’m an AK guy so what the heck do I know.

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 danthman114 0
Major French wrote:

danthman114 wrote:My Rock River with an acog does pretty well. Same as my colt.

Thank you for for sharing. Pray tell, do run RRA stock or modded?

I had them build it when I shot for the base team. A4 upper, a2 butt stock and grip, stainless Wilson match barrel, RR 2 stage trigger. I have the lead weights for it but only use them for competition. My colt has a vltor modstock and a Leupold mk4 cqt. No batteries required…

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Guns • Re: My ‘from the box user ready’AR-15 thread

February 1, 2017 Lipps 0

Colt 6720. Under a grand, lightweight, reliable. Good for plinking and other light work.

Springfield M1A It’s the cheapest one you can buy that isn’t junk, but it’s still expensive. Heavy. bombproof. Can be used as a club for those times when you decided to carry less ammo because it was too heavy.

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January 31, 2017 donba 0

Wait A Minuit; I thought the hole Idea behind the AR15 was to put a lot of amo down range. While your partner with the 308 or 30-06 takes them out. I didn’t know you were supposed to aim and hit targets with one. Back to the range I will go………….

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January 31, 2017 Major French 0
Dirk Williams wrote:
Major, WOW-just WOW, is all I can say. I’ve learned something new today.

Thank you Major.
are you like retired army , perhaps Salvation Army?

Can you advise our friend Contrarian regarding the proper ar lower for his 308?

Big D
Little irk..

Sorry, I don’t know anything about .308 AR lowers. But I did do research for , both user interviews and online, before I decided to add to AR to to my collection, 3rd team leader for Kanawha Valley Communications Team[KVCT]. We did armed civilian search and rescue, too.

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January 31, 2017 Cast Iron 0

If you have to go the AR15 route due to budget constraints in the anemic 5.56/.223, do try to get EPR ammo. It overcomes the limitations, deficiencies, and the massive performance failures of the M855 ammo.

Granted you will likely suffer barrel ware, and possible parts failure due to the higher pressure.

Statistics: Posted by Cast Iron — Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:11 pm