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Cast Iron, there are some things a salty Marine never forgets.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 pm

Cast Iron wrote:
http://www.marines.mil/

Cast Iron, there are some things a salty Marine never forgets.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 pm

Cast Iron wrote:
http://www.marines.mil/

Cast Iron, there are some things a salty Marine never forgets.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:19 pm

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Statistics: Posted by Cast Iron — Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:08 pm

It’s such a personal thing to put mods on a rifle. I say this because one person may want to accurize while another may want sheer capacity and yet another may want an optic that brings the next county over into view. If it were my M&P, I would probably buy the spare parts kits, bulk up on magazines, then optic (in that order). After that, you may consider an accurate barrel (Wylde?), trigger upgrade (Timney or Geissele (sp?) and ambidextrous charging handle, fancy bolt etc etc. There’s almost no limit to what you could change on an AR.
I have an older Colt HB Sporter I picked up many years ago. I have yet to have a single problem with it. I have purchased an accurized Colt a year ago, and that rifle is as good to shoot as my older Colt. Best thing to do is go to AR15.com and start reading up on what others have done to their rifles and their rationale behind their decisions. If you can learn from others, you will be money and experience ahead! Enjoy it, take care of it and be safe!

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:36 pm

It’s such a personal thing to put mods on a rifle. I say this because one person may want to accurize while another may want sheer capacity and yet another may want an optic that brings the next county over into view. If it were my M&P, I would probably buy the spare parts kits, bulk up on magazines, then optic (in that order). After that, you may consider an accurate barrel (Wylde?), trigger upgrade (Timney or Geissele (sp?) and ambidextrous charging handle, fancy bolt etc etc. There’s almost no limit to what you could change on an AR.
I have an older Colt HB Sporter I picked up many years ago. I have yet to have a single problem with it. I have purchased an accurized Colt a year ago, and that rifle is as good to shoot as my older Colt. Best thing to do is go to AR15.com and start reading up on what others have done to their rifles and their rationale behind their decisions. If you can learn from others, you will be money and experience ahead! Enjoy it, take care of it and be safe!

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:36 pm

I was finally able to get this rifle out for a range day… Some things that I learned:
*.50 kicks like a slug from a 12Ga shotgun
*Not having to use a spotting scope to see the holes in the target is pretty cool
*The brass is HOT
*Cheek positioning will be different from here on out
*$1.75 per round is actually cheap compared to Viagra
*Bigger isn’t always better, but in this case it really is!
*I don’t regret this purchase whatsoever!

After I got used to it, I was in the black right away. By the end of the session, I was consistently close to bullseye @ 50yds from a fixed bench using iron sights.
@Dirk= Yes, gas block is set screwed in. Looking forward to next range day!

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:13 pm

I was finally able to get this rifle out for a range day… Some things that I learned:
*.50 kicks like a slug from a 12Ga shotgun
*Not having to use a spotting scope to see the holes in the target is pretty cool
*The brass is HOT
*Cheek positioning will be different from here on out
*$1.75 per round is actually cheap compared to Viagra
*Bigger isn’t always better, but in this case it really is!
*I don’t regret this purchase whatsoever!

After I got used to it, I was in the black right away. By the end of the session, I was consistently close to bullseye @ 50yds from a fixed bench using iron sights.
@Dirk= Yes, gas block is set screwed in. Looking forward to next range day!

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:13 pm

The one thing to consider would be extra mags, besides your spare parts.
If anyone recalls the cost of a 30RD mag a few years ago with the big scare that was placed on us, I remember the lines at the gun shop.
Big Gov. changes all the time, buy now while you can and its cheap.

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:30 am

The one thing to consider would be extra mags, besides your spare parts.
If anyone recalls the cost of a 30RD mag a few years ago with the big scare that was placed on us, I remember the lines at the gun shop.
Big Gov. changes all the time, buy now while you can and its cheap.

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:30 am

Congrats on your two M&P 15s. I assume you have two Sport models, based on the cost? Are they Gen 1, or Gen 2 with the dust cover or forward assist?

Before continuing, I want to say I’m far from a firearms expert, and only offering an opinion. There are many experts on this forum with vast amounts of experience on the intricacies and nuances to fully kit out your rifles. They have plenty of range time and/or can speak well to their personal experiences.

I assume having spare parts, say a lower and upper parts kits is first priority.

I’m going to supply my simple perspective, fwiw, on priorities. I’m also budget conscious. Depending on the item, I won’t spend a whole lot on upgrades or spare piece parts. If you have the potential to lose your primary, a subset of parts aren’t the whole. If the desire is to have nearly the parts to assemble another rifle, then I’d suggest already having a backup rifle. Being the M&P cost you $500, when talking uppers, lowers, trigger upgrades, charging handles, BCG, etc. I’d personally just add a spare M&P, or suggest saving a bit more money to get something with extra features, and keep the original M&P as your backup. All things break eventually, even a high end product. A whole spare/backup can be used out of the box when needed, with no extra time spent to diagnose and rebuild. After having a backup, then spare parts. Just my opinion.

On AR upgrades, one has to consider their own unique situation, use scenarios, and personal proclivities in such things. Beyond a stock setup one could be a minimalist (e.g.- MBUS flip sights, red dot, sling, fold up bipod) or spend hundreds on a high-end scope, and many other customs. On high end upgrades, from a defense standpoint, night vision could be a better choice over getting a superb rifle, or working to make something better out of something basic. All depending on what you see yourself doing of course.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 am

Congrats on your two M&P 15s. I assume you have two Sport models, based on the cost? Are they Gen 1, or Gen 2 with the dust cover or forward assist?

Before continuing, I want to say I’m far from a firearms expert, and only offering an opinion. There are many experts on this forum with vast amounts of experience on the intricacies and nuances to fully kit out your rifles. They have plenty of range time and/or can speak well to their personal experiences.

I assume having spare parts, say a lower and upper parts kits is first priority.

I’m going to supply my simple perspective, fwiw, on priorities. I’m also budget conscious. Depending on the item, I won’t spend a whole lot on upgrades or spare piece parts. If you have the potential to lose your primary, a subset of parts aren’t the whole. If the desire is to have nearly the parts to assemble another rifle, then I’d suggest already having a backup rifle. Being the M&P cost you $500, when talking uppers, lowers, trigger upgrades, charging handles, BCG, etc. I’d personally just add a spare M&P, or suggest saving a bit more money to get something with extra features, and keep the original M&P as your backup. All things break eventually, even a high end product. A whole spare/backup can be used out of the box when needed, with no extra time spent to diagnose and rebuild. After having a backup, then spare parts. Just my opinion.

On AR upgrades, one has to consider their own unique situation, use scenarios, and personal proclivities in such things. Beyond a stock setup one could be a minimalist (e.g.- MBUS flip sights, red dot, sling, fold up bipod) or spend hundreds on a high-end scope, and many other customs. On high end upgrades, from a defense standpoint, night vision could be a better choice over getting a superb rifle, or working to make something better out of something basic. All depending on what you see yourself doing of course.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 am

Not knocking anybodies build, buy Colt, and never look back. Colt IS the rifle all these aftermarket dealers are wanting to be. Purchase a set of Crane gas rings, and an extra bolt, your done, good for 10.000 rounds minimum.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:46 pm

Not knocking anybodies build, buy Colt, and never look back. Colt IS the rifle all these aftermarket dealers are wanting to be. Purchase a set of Crane gas rings, and an extra bolt, your done, good for 10.000 rounds minimum.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:46 pm

Fullmoon wrote:
How accurate is your rifle? I have a Rock River M4 carbine and was disappointed with its accuracy. It has a 1 in 9″ twist. I shot 55 and 62 grain bullets with no difference in accuracy, it shot a one and a half inch group at 100 yards. I called Rock River and they said to try 69 grain bullets. I loaded a few for a test using some 30 year old IMR 3031 powder and it shot dime sized groups. Real happy with the change. Other than that I have attached a bipod mount ($5) to the underside of the fore stock and invested in a couple of scopes. Mine is a flat top so I got an Eotech 512 red dot holographic sight for close range and a Trijicon ACOG for long range shooting. Both scopes are real accurate and I am pleased with their performance. Have them attached with A.R.M.S. #22 throw lever quick mount rings so I can swap scopes in a hurry without losing the zero. Put a $3 surplus sling on it and that’s about all the upgrades I have done. If you demand pinpoint accuracy get an Armalite with the full length barrel with a 1 in 7″ twist. These are super accurate right out of the box and can fire the 77 grain ammunition.

Back in the day(6 yrs ago) I bought the DDM4V5…It was 1300 +DROS/Tax back then….1/7 twist….I’ve been a self-acknowledged “Fanboy” ever since…I’ve sent 4 friends over the years to Daniel Defense since and every one out of the box always goes bang and is dead on…quality gear there my friends for out of the box ready. I’ve run somewhere around 10K+ rounds thru and only had a single serious malfunction that was honestly Op Error(heavy day with about 600 rds and it went dry)…. ’nuff said. The only thing I’ve changed over the years was the charging handle for faster running/ease of use.

I’m chiming in because the EO-Tech you mentioned…I just recently found out about the lawsuit….I personally haven’t noticed any issues and decided to keep mine but just be aware of it if you weren’t…(Temp changes effect accuracy supposedly…1-4 mil from what I’ve read)

As to OP….Agreed. Having one is better than none unless that one doesn’t go bang….The upper and lower sets on standby for sure….I’d suggest a nicer trigger but would need to understand your uses before recommending one specific(bench? fun? 3gun? etc…)

Here’s a great company I use and some charging handle upgrades too just in this link…. https://www.riflegear.com/c-96-charging-handles.aspx lol…They’re also local to me (The showroom) but you cant walk in there without expecting a 1/2 -1 hr wait because they take the time to answer questions/are good/ and inexpensive…And that’s with 10 employees on the showroom floor…lol…

Internet will be a perfect way to use them….you can call for advice too.

Good luck Kalos

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:49 am

Fullmoon wrote:
How accurate is your rifle? I have a Rock River M4 carbine and was disappointed with its accuracy. It has a 1 in 9″ twist. I shot 55 and 62 grain bullets with no difference in accuracy, it shot a one and a half inch group at 100 yards. I called Rock River and they said to try 69 grain bullets. I loaded a few for a test using some 30 year old IMR 3031 powder and it shot dime sized groups. Real happy with the change. Other than that I have attached a bipod mount ($5) to the underside of the fore stock and invested in a couple of scopes. Mine is a flat top so I got an Eotech 512 red dot holographic sight for close range and a Trijicon ACOG for long range shooting. Both scopes are real accurate and I am pleased with their performance. Have them attached with A.R.M.S. #22 throw lever quick mount rings so I can swap scopes in a hurry without losing the zero. Put a $3 surplus sling on it and that’s about all the upgrades I have done. If you demand pinpoint accuracy get an Armalite with the full length barrel with a 1 in 7″ twist. These are super accurate right out of the box and can fire the 77 grain ammunition.

Back in the day(6 yrs ago) I bought the DDM4V5…It was 1300 +DROS/Tax back then….1/7 twist….I’ve been a self-acknowledged “Fanboy” ever since…I’ve sent 4 friends over the years to Daniel Defense since and every one out of the box always goes bang and is dead on…quality gear there my friends for out of the box ready. I’ve run somewhere around 10K+ rounds thru and only had a single serious malfunction that was honestly Op Error(heavy day with about 600 rds and it went dry)…. ’nuff said. The only thing I’ve changed over the years was the charging handle for faster running/ease of use.

I’m chiming in because the EO-Tech you mentioned…I just recently found out about the lawsuit….I personally haven’t noticed any issues and decided to keep mine but just be aware of it if you weren’t…(Temp changes effect accuracy supposedly…1-4 mil from what I’ve read)

As to OP….Agreed. Having one is better than none unless that one doesn’t go bang….The upper and lower sets on standby for sure….I’d suggest a nicer trigger but would need to understand your uses before recommending one specific(bench? fun? 3gun? etc…)

Here’s a great company I use and some charging handle upgrades too just in this link…. https://www.riflegear.com/c-96-charging-handles.aspx lol…They’re also local to me (The showroom) but you cant walk in there without expecting a 1/2 -1 hr wait because they take the time to answer questions/are good/ and inexpensive…And that’s with 10 employees on the showroom floor…lol…

Internet will be a perfect way to use them….you can call for advice too.

Good luck Kalos

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:49 am

Fullmoon wrote:
How accurate is your rifle? I have a Rock River M4 carbine and was disappointed with its accuracy. It has a 1 in 9″ twist. I shot 55 and 62 grain bullets with no difference in accuracy, it shot a one and a half inch group at 100 yards. I called Rock River and they said to try 69 grain bullets. I loaded a few for a test using some 30 year old IMR 3031 powder and it shot dime sized groups. Real happy with the change. Other than that I have attached a bipod mount ($5) to the underside of the fore stock and invested in a couple of scopes. Mine is a flat top so I got an Eotech 512 red dot holographic sight for close range and a Trijicon ACOG for long range shooting. Both scopes are real accurate and I am pleased with their performance. Have them attached with A.R.M.S. #22 throw lever quick mount rings so I can swap scopes in a hurry without losing the zero. Put a $3 surplus sling on it and that’s about all the upgrades I have done. If you demand pinpoint accuracy get an Armalite with the full length barrel with a 1 in 7″ twist. These are super accurate right out of the box and can fire the 77 grain ammunition.

Back in the day(6 yrs ago) I bought the DDM4V5…It was 1300 +DROS/Tax back then….1/7 twist….I’ve been a self-acknowledged “Fanboy” ever since…I’ve sent 4 friends over the years to Daniel Defense since and every one out of the box always goes bang and is dead on…quality gear there my friends for out of the box ready. I’ve run somewhere around 10K+ rounds thru and only had a single serious malfunction that was honestly Op Error(heavy day with about 600 rds and it went dry)…. ’nuff said. The only thing I’ve changed over the years was the charging handle for faster running/ease of use.

I’m chiming in because the EO-Tech you mentioned…I just recently found out about the lawsuit….I personally haven’t noticed any issues and decided to keep mine but just be aware of it if you weren’t…(Temp changes effect accuracy supposedly…1-4 mil from what I’ve read)

As to OP….Agreed. Having one is better than none unless that one doesn’t go bang….The upper and lower sets on standby for sure….I’d suggest a nicer trigger but would need to understand your uses before recommending one specific(bench? fun? 3gun? etc…)

Here’s a great company I use and some charging handle upgrades too just in this link…. https://www.riflegear.com/c-96-charging-handles.aspx lol…They’re also local to me (The showroom) but you cant walk in there without expecting a 1/2 -1 hr wait because they take the time to answer questions/are good/ and inexpensive…And that’s with 10 employees on the showroom floor…lol…

Internet will be a perfect way to use them….you can call for advice too.

Good luck Kalos

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:49 am

Front Sight is a good place to start and if you can find the time and money to attend, is well worth it.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:04 am

Front Sight is a good place to start and if you can find the time and money to attend, is well worth it.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:04 am

How accurate is your rifle? I have a Rock River M4 carbine and was disappointed with its accuracy. It has a 1 in 9″ twist. I shot 55 and 62 grain bullets with no difference in accuracy, it shot a one and a half inch group at 100 yards. I called Rock River and they said to try 69 grain bullets. I loaded a few for a test using some 30 year old IMR 3031 powder and it shot dime sized groups. Real happy with the change. Other than that I have attached a bipod mount ($5) to the underside of the fore stock and invested in a couple of scopes. Mine is a flat top so I got an Eotech 512 red dot holographic sight for close range and a Trijicon ACOG for long range shooting. Both scopes are real accurate and I am pleased with their performance. Have them attached with A.R.M.S. #22 throw lever quick mount rings so I can swap scopes in a hurry without losing the zero. Put a $3 surplus sling on it and that’s about all the upgrades I have done. If you demand pinpoint accuracy get an Armalite with the full length barrel with a 1 in 7″ twist. These are super accurate right out of the box and can fire the 77 grain ammunition.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:52 pm

How accurate is your rifle? I have a Rock River M4 carbine and was disappointed with its accuracy. It has a 1 in 9″ twist. I shot 55 and 62 grain bullets with no difference in accuracy, it shot a one and a half inch group at 100 yards. I called Rock River and they said to try 69 grain bullets. I loaded a few for a test using some 30 year old IMR 3031 powder and it shot dime sized groups. Real happy with the change. Other than that I have attached a bipod mount ($5) to the underside of the fore stock and invested in a couple of scopes. Mine is a flat top so I got an Eotech 512 red dot holographic sight for close range and a Trijicon ACOG for long range shooting. Both scopes are real accurate and I am pleased with their performance. Have them attached with A.R.M.S. #22 throw lever quick mount rings so I can swap scopes in a hurry without losing the zero. Put a $3 surplus sling on it and that’s about all the upgrades I have done. If you demand pinpoint accuracy get an Armalite with the full length barrel with a 1 in 7″ twist. These are super accurate right out of the box and can fire the 77 grain ammunition.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:52 pm

My wife and I both have S&W M&P 15’s and I want to put together a list of upgrades we can do slowly over time.

I know what some will say “buy a real AR” or something but I cannot break my budget to buy a $2000 AR, but I can use the $500 M&P as a base to make sure I have one first, then upgrade as I can later.

I assume having spare parts, say a lower and upper parts kits is first priority.

Then I was thinking BCG or barrel maybe? What am I look for here, brands, materials, construction? Please provide specifics as you are able.

Thanks!

Statistics: Posted by kalos72 — Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:36 pm

My wife and I both have S&W M&P 15’s and I want to put together a list of upgrades we can do slowly over time.

I know what some will say “buy a real AR” or something but I cannot break my budget to buy a $2000 AR, but I can use the $500 M&P as a base to make sure I have one first, then upgrade as I can later.

I assume having spare parts, say a lower and upper parts kits is first priority.

Then I was thinking BCG or barrel maybe? What am I look for here, brands, materials, construction? Please provide specifics as you are able.

Thanks!

Statistics: Posted by kalos72 — Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:36 pm

Handgun Training Article #1 thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DecMGxVzWgI

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Handgun Training Article #1 thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DecMGxVzWgI

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Not sure why they are talking about a revolver, but whatever. I guess my feelings are, if you need the accuracy, dump it and use two hands, if you need to move, duck and grab rifle then git. If things are really close and you need to move, hold on to the rifle and use one hand on the pistol and move. Leaving your primary weapon (unless totally broken) doesn’t make much sense to me.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:12 am

Not sure why they are talking about a revolver, but whatever. I guess my feelings are, if you need the accuracy, dump it and use two hands, if you need to move, duck and grab rifle then git. If things are really close and you need to move, hold on to the rifle and use one hand on the pistol and move. Leaving your primary weapon (unless totally broken) doesn’t make much sense to me.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:12 am

I wear a shoulder holster and can shoot proficiently with either or both hands.

I do have one good story. We were hunting ducks along the Platte River. A jack rabbit popped up and I almost shot him with the 10 gauge but held the shotgun with my left hand and drew my .22 Hi Standard out of a fast draw holster and tossed a shot at him from the hip. He was about 40 yards out in a short cut alfalfa field. The bullet caught him right between the ears. My buddies quit calling me Annie Oakley. 100% luck that I hit him.

Statistics: Posted by oldasrocks — Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:49 pm

I wear a shoulder holster and can shoot proficiently with either or both hands.

I do have one good story. We were hunting ducks along the Platte River. A jack rabbit popped up and I almost shot him with the 10 gauge but held the shotgun with my left hand and drew my .22 Hi Standard out of a fast draw holster and tossed a shot at him from the hip. He was about 40 yards out in a short cut alfalfa field. The bullet caught him right between the ears. My buddies quit calling me Annie Oakley. 100% luck that I hit him.

Statistics: Posted by oldasrocks — Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:49 pm

Pretty accurate if rifle isn’t already slung…

I’d dump it…

Problem there is if it is loaded and just couldn’t be utilized, if you have to retreat you’d leave another weapon for them to turn upon you…..As you grab the weapon to begin with it should have been slung.

Lets face it…Assuming you already had a pistol holstered, if you were grabbing a rifle or gauge you’d have had the 2 seconds needed to sling it or you wouldn’t have been going to retrieve it in the first place.

As far as pistol presentation its solid…I train variances of support hand differences between step 3-4 but other than that….(I’ll kant at clearance for immediate ability to fire if not enough time for support hand)

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:14 pm

Pretty accurate if rifle isn’t already slung…

I’d dump it…

Problem there is if it is loaded and just couldn’t be utilized, if you have to retreat you’d leave another weapon for them to turn upon you…..As you grab the weapon to begin with it should have been slung.

Lets face it…Assuming you already had a pistol holstered, if you were grabbing a rifle or gauge you’d have had the 2 seconds needed to sling it or you wouldn’t have been going to retrieve it in the first place.

As far as pistol presentation its solid…I train variances of support hand differences between step 3-4 but other than that….(I’ll kant at clearance for immediate ability to fire if not enough time for support hand)

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:14 pm

A video on transitioning from rifle to handgun. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzycJ3ySy_Q

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:57 pm

A video on transitioning from rifle to handgun. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzycJ3ySy_Q

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:57 pm

Good video, I liked the comments about the Nagant revolver and the type 98 Nambu. No way would I want a pistol grip shottie, not for nuthin.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

Good video, I liked the comments about the Nagant revolver and the type 98 Nambu. No way would I want a pistol grip shottie, not for nuthin.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

Good video, I liked the comments about the Nagant revolver and the type 98 Nambu. No way would I want a pistol grip shottie, not for nuthin.

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

BK in KC wrote:
The guys at InRange have an excellent video of pistol grip vs. shoulder stock in a defensive shotgun. Forward to 5:44 for the actual testing if you’re in a hurry.

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Good video. I like the pistol grip.

Statistics: Posted by MathewGus — Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:03 am

BK in KC wrote:
The guys at InRange have an excellent video of pistol grip vs. shoulder stock in a defensive shotgun. Forward to 5:44 for the actual testing if you’re in a hurry.

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Good video. I like the pistol grip.

Statistics: Posted by MathewGus — Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:03 am

PatrioticStabilist wrote:
We have a new shooting range that was set up in a near by city. I hope to get up there
and learn more and get some good shooting skills. I have the guns, do not have the
expertise, only the most basic.

So does the range offer instruction? If you want to develop more skill and expertise I would highly recommend going to a shooting school.

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:01 am

We have a new shooting range that was set up in a near by city. I hope to get up there
and learn more and get some good shooting skills. I have the guns, do not have the
expertise, only the most basic.

Statistics: Posted by PatrioticStabilist — Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:24 am