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Good article and thank you for posting! I used to avoid carry whenever possible, but the world has changed. Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:38 pm

Good article and thank you for posting! I used to avoid carry whenever possible, but the world has changed. Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:38 pm

So I have been catching up on my reading since I’ve been gone a while and my wife saved this article for me. It is a good example of responsible carry, and if anyone knows some people who are on the fence it might give them a fresh perspective.

http://www.newsminer.com/news/local_new … fc627.html

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:09 pm

So I have been catching up on my reading since I’ve been gone a while and my wife saved this article for me. It is a good example of responsible carry, and if anyone knows some people who are on the fence it might give them a fresh perspective.

http://www.newsminer.com/news/local_new … fc627.html

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Both great ideas. Another thought, or approach. Col Jeff Cooper, lived at Quartzite ? aZ, and had a custom house built on site. The good Col, had many I ovations incorporated into his home, for defensive integrity.

The idea and later he turned it into reality was a metal sliding gat in the hall way leading down to his residences bedrooms. The door or metal fence slid into the wall. At night Jeff would poo poo the gate and lock it.

Cooper was an innovator, his idea for this was simple. The bedroom hallway was on the second story. The hallway was long, and he stragically placed the gate, 3/4s of the way down the hallway, or towards the bedroom.

The rationale was to,make the retreat distance the killing field. So Cooper built a artful metal,sliding gate which was secured in the wall and pulled across the hallway on the bedroom side of the hallway.

Coopers imtent wasn’t to keep the bad guys out forever, just slow them down and draw them into his kill zone. Col, Cooper also built a bullet proof fighting position in his closet, which when entered looked directly,down the hallway into the secured gate.

Giving Cooper or his family the oppertunity to fix the problem.

Cooper wrote of this gate and shared pictures on his site way back then. I’ve considered it, just never gotten around to it.

Just sharing another idea. Admittedly the above ideas are far more practical.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:58 pm

Both great ideas. Another thought, or approach. Col Jeff Cooper, lived at Quartzite ? aZ, and had a custom house built on site. The good Col, had many I ovations incorporated into his home, for defensive integrity.

The idea and later he turned it into reality was a metal sliding gat in the hall way leading down to his residences bedrooms. The door or metal fence slid into the wall. At night Jeff would poo poo the gate and lock it.

Cooper was an innovator, his idea for this was simple. The bedroom hallway was on the second story. The hallway was long, and he stragically placed the gate, 3/4s of the way down the hallway, or towards the bedroom.

The rationale was to,make the retreat distance the killing field. So Cooper built a artful metal,sliding gate which was secured in the wall and pulled across the hallway on the bedroom side of the hallway.

Coopers imtent wasn’t to keep the bad guys out forever, just slow them down and draw them into his kill zone. Col, Cooper also built a bullet proof fighting position in his closet, which when entered looked directly,down the hallway into the secured gate.

Giving Cooper or his family the oppertunity to fix the problem.

Cooper wrote of this gate and shared pictures on his site way back then. I’ve considered it, just never gotten around to it.

Just sharing another idea. Admittedly the above ideas are far more practical.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:58 pm

Both great ideas. Another thought, or approach. Col Jeff Cooper, lived at Quartzite ? aZ, and had a custom house built on site. The good Col, had many I ovations incorporated into his home, for defensive integrity.

The idea and later he turned it into reality was a metal sliding gat in the hall way leading down to his residences bedrooms. The door or metal fence slid into the wall. At night Jeff would poo poo the gate and lock it.

Cooper was an innovator, his idea for this was simple. The bedroom hallway was on the second story. The hallway was long, and he stragically placed the gate, 3/4s of the way down the hallway, or towards the bedroom.

The rationale was to,make the retreat distance the killing field. So Cooper built a artful metal,sliding gate which was secured in the wall and pulled across the hallway on the bedroom side of the hallway.

Coopers imtent wasn’t to keep the bad guys out forever, just slow them down and draw them into his kill zone. Col, Cooper also built a bullet proof fighting position in his closet, which when entered looked directly,down the hallway into the secured gate.

Giving Cooper or his family the oppertunity to fix the problem.

Cooper wrote of this gate and shared pictures on his site way back then. I’ve considered it, just never gotten around to it.

Just sharing another idea. Admittedly the above ideas are far more practical.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:58 pm

NICE DIRK!!!

That sounds like one hell of a setup…Would love to run that config thru a few thousand.

Have fun with that one…

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:32 am

NICE DIRK!!!

That sounds like one hell of a setup…Would love to run that config thru a few thousand.

Have fun with that one…

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:32 am

Could care less what’s fashionable or not. If it works for you, is practically priced, and enhances your target group at versos distances, then you should consider one.

I’ve got CMC, straights, and am very pleased with their added performance. I shot faster, at all distances. Their is a trade off. I do not like the install set up. The pins walk when shooting. I changed out the pins to a style that screws into themselves, a little blue lock tight ang I’m happy with the fixed pin problem. The upgraded pins are an added expense, like 20.00. Something to consider.

I’ve also got the grisselles straight triggers, again faster, smoother FOR ME. I’ve got short fingers. These triggers are now 230/250.00 not cheap. I’ve had mine for years now.

All my m4s, and now all my sniper rifles have straight triggers. I use to spend a fair amount of time ” stoning” my stock triggers relieving the trigger pull pressure,,and just to clean up any blemishes.

Remember if you,stone the trigger to much your guns will dump 30 rounds in a little over a second. It’s illegal as an auto, and for me, I’m not into,auto or machine guns. I carried some sort of,full,auto rifle from day one of my career. Much prefer a solid semi with a great trigger in it. ,

Like driven said their is a physiological mental “step up” when you go to,these triggers.” For the average shooter, which is me anymore, I don’t know that I’d spend the money,,if it ment my kids went without shoes or,a,family nessity.

I am in the middle of a slow build,right now, an M4 pistol.

VLTOR upper.
Noveske lower.
CMC straight trigger,
A three hole full auto,BCG, ” the third hole sets the dwell time to hang up a bit longer allowing a better gas dump, for recoil.
VLTOR shorty spring and heavy buffer. It’s got,a number, it’s VLTORs heaviest spring and duffer.
Colt spring kits.
Crane ring upgrade.
H&K hooded sights for aft.
T1 red dot.
Also using the VLTOR for end and gas block, pinned.
Gem tech muzzle break, to except a genre H suppressor.
Magpul furniture.

I’ve got,a,magpul stock, but this is a pistol,,which would make it a 10 inch and illegal without a tax stamp. Not into illegal weapons, so I’m thinking this thru.

I’m actually looking for,a,buffer rude that houses a slide in stock very simlar to the H&K MP4/5.

I’ve found a couple they just look flimsy. Looking for,a,better,built one. And I don’t mind spending the money if it’s what I want.

I have gas buster I took off of one of my m4s. I’ll apply the gas buster and leave it in the gas reducer selection position. I,discovered that by using the GB, the heavy bolt with the extra hole for,dwell reduction, and the VLTOR heavy spring and heavy buffer,,with a 3 pound trigger, the rifle displays almost zero recoil.

The VLTOR foremd will extend past the muzzle so when I spin the can onto the Quick disconnect it gives the rifle/ pistol and unusual look. Like a foremd with a can sticking out of it.

O yea using a Noveske Afgan heavy 10/12 inch barrel. (Censored word. I’m a Potty mouth) barrels, and I’m still kicking around making this rifle a piston gun. I’m not,big on them, but still,considering them. ,

I do own an H&K 416 piston m4. I’m not real happy with this rifle, just feels funky to me. This HK is the go to,rifle of all the tier 1 teams military wide. Mine is the civilian version.

Much prefer my others.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:28 pm

Fullmoon wrote:
Straight triggers were the rage during the 1890s when H&H and Drilling Rifles became popular for African hunts. Straight triggers were easier and faster to make but straight or curved, when you touched off a 600 Nitro Express its going to hurt you. Then straight triggers were installed on smaller bore high end Mauser and Martini hunting rifles of the bolt action design. It was found that a rifle with a curved trigger shot tighter groups because more surface area of the trigger finger came in contact with the curved trigger. This caused improved hand to brain nerve signal transmission so since then most military rack grade and civilian hunting rifles have been made with curved triggers. The latest drop in equipment may be a sales gimmick, hurry up and get yours before they are gone and you are left standing in the dust, I don’t know. I have been plinking with the AR for a half century and am too old to change triggers and learn something new. Old time muscle memory pretty much controls what I do and how I shoot, I got used to curved triggers and like them so will keep them on my rifles.

Interesting…I didn’t know that history FullMoon…Thanks for that.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:48 pm

Straight triggers were the rage during the 1890s when H&H and Drilling Rifles became popular for African hunts. Straight triggers were easier and faster to make but straight or curved, when you touched off a 600 Nitro Express its going to hurt you. Then straight triggers were installed on smaller bore high end Mauser and Martini hunting rifles of the bolt action design. It was found that a rifle with a curved trigger shot tighter groups because more surface area of the trigger finger came in contact with the curved trigger. This caused improved hand to brain nerve signal transmission so since then most military rack grade and civilian hunting rifles have been made with curved triggers. The latest drop in equipment may be a sales gimmick, hurry up and get yours before they are gone and you are left standing in the dust, I don’t know. I have been plinking with the AR for a half century and am too old to change triggers and learn something new. Old time muscle memory pretty much controls what I do and how I shoot, I got used to curved triggers and like them so will keep them on my rifles.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:34 pm

Comes down to personal preference really…

I know there’s some guys that state “It’s crisper” for them…that’s just a perception.

Trigger crispness is all part of the internals completely dependent on manufacture quality, straight or curved……There’s always the $.50 trigger job but that’s beside the point and also no different flat or curved.

There is for sure a different feel to the trigger so like I stated, it’s really just personal preference.

The only downfall that I’ve ever noticed on a flat is if your running a B.A.D……(Battery Assist Device)….It puts your finger a little more forward on a trigger reset and that can accidently hit the B.A.D. switch or just be uncomfortable.

I like the B.A.D….It’s actually pretty intuitive and make clearing a double feed very easy and fast. Age old wisdom on that again though is train with standardized gear in case the next one you pick up doesn’t have it…which is almost guaranteed.

I wouldn’t go spending $100+ on a flat to check it out, but try one if you can….You just might love it.

~D~

.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:42 am

Nice!. Some dam good and sturdy kit on your new rifle. The VOLTOR fore end is bolt on. And solid kit. The fore grip actually bolts to the pitinny and reduces ” flex” in the upper receiver. Straight triggers, are the ticket for a better trigger press.

The hooded HK style sights are superior to the standard AR built ones. These sights are rock solid.

Dan, in looking at the pic, I can’t tell if your gas block is ” pinned” or using set screws from the bottom.

It’s critical to use a set pin for durability longevity.

Very nice rifle.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:56 am

Nice!. Some dam good and sturdy kit on your new rifle. The VOLTOR fore end is bolt on. And solid kit. The fore grip actually bolts to the pitinny and reduces ” flex” in the upper receiver. Straight triggers, are the ticket for a better trigger press.

The hooded HK style sights are superior to the standard AR built ones. These sights are rock solid.

Dan, in looking at the pic, I can’t tell if your gas block is ” pinned” or using set screws from the bottom.

It’s critical to use a set pin for durability longevity.

Very nice rifle.

Dirk

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:56 am

rickdun wrote:
MrDB, that’s a sweet ride. You know you’ll have to cuddle with it tonight.

Rick,
I may have to visit the doctor. It’s been more than 4 hours…

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:57 pm

rickdun wrote:
MrDB, that’s a sweet ride. You know you’ll have to cuddle with it tonight.

Rick,
I may have to visit the doctor. It’s been more than 4 hours…

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:57 pm

MrDB, that’s a sweet ride. You know you’ll have to cuddle with it tonight.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:24 pm

MrDB, that’s a sweet ride. You know you’ll have to cuddle with it tonight.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:24 pm

Here’s my new Beowulf .50
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Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:04 pm

Here’s my new Beowulf .50
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Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:04 pm

Dirk Williams wrote:
I own four sets of PVS 14s, all gen three auto gyrated etcetc. I also own two sets of PVS-7s, two into one lenses. I purchased two 14s from TNVC, 3500.00 a pop.

I purchased two other sets of 14s, from a small start up company of Army Rangers in Seattle. These sets were Referbished 14s. I think they cost like 2500.00 a pop.

The PVS-7s, came from the ranger company aswell.

I recently inquired about another set for an associate. Was sad to learn their doing SURPLUS stuff, but not NV right now.

Your going to pay 3000.00 plus per set, so be prepared.

I recently hosted a dog and pony show, where’s some friends who are trainers for ATN, brought up some of the new ” White Light” models of night vision. New technology, and pretty slick.

” no green background, it’s white and appeared to be great quality stuff. I was told that the switch to this new generation of NODS, will be slow, due to costs, but that a bunch of the currant Gen III stuff will flood the market.

I’d like to share this, and I said it here before. Night vision is an absolute force multiplier. The ability to see and shoot hundreds of yards accurately in the darkest of nights, is a big deal.

Add a suppressor and an IR laser like the D-BAL-2 to a rifle any your light years ahead of the program.

The PVS14 is 3 k plus. The Suppressor is 1000.00 plus the tax stamp 200.00. The D-bal-2 is 900.00. The package is worth every penny.

I have three rifles with these set ups on them. Two m4-S and a Fn 308. The 308 can be switched to one of my m-14s.

The value added to the package is incredible. I can shoot others from 100s of yards away, leaving almost zero sound signature. Almost zero flash signature, and track my foes movement step for step.

Out of ALL of my preps, these rifle systems are perhaps the most important in terms of protecting our survival package. If you can’t defend it, it ain’t yours for long.

The psychological advantage added by these systems will be worth the costs.

So if you believe bad times are coming, you owe it to your families to be able to protect them, and your preps from raiders or others bent on making your kit, theirs.

I made the choice to scrap with anybody in my turf for my stuff, to include city county state and federal representatives.

Incidentally, the listed agencies at least here, currantly do not possess the abilities I have available. The State and Fed’s, have these items just not locally.

Keep in mind that Bight Vision devices can view other night vision devices. And IR lazer, which leads right back to your D-bal-2 in a firefight. Also the Dbals have green visible Lazers which work much better then red lazer in the sun light.

” personally I don’t see a need for Lazers in light, my sight package is for instant identification and targeting.

In the past 25 years I’ve used nods almost nightly. I actually had a set of PVS-21s hand reciepted to me may last three years as a deputy Sheriff. Most tier one military guys have never seen a set of those, truly remarkable.

I could drive as fast as I wanted 100 mph, on windy curve mountain roads, with zero lights on, with zero perception differences.

Gunns my friend, I guess so,etchings better then nothing. The gen one stuff does work, if it meets your needs, wonderful. In the late 80s, I had that stuff. I was greatful for it, saved my bacon more then once. The gen 3 and now gen 4 stuff is measurably by large margins better and better made, solid.

A 300 y shot with a14 mounted on a good rifle is easy Peasy, I do it all the time.

Should you get a 14 also purchase a mount called a TM14 mount, from TNVC, these mount directly behind your red dots, and co witness, easily.

When you shoulder your rifle and look thru the 14, you pick up the red dot, centered. It’s quick and sturdy.

Hope this helps

Dirk Williams

Thanks Dirk. You were one I was referring to but did not want to volunteer your name. As always very good advice. Wish I had the money for Gen 3 or 4. Maybe after the market gets the new stuff the prices will be more attractive.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:52 pm

I own four sets of PVS 14s, all gen three auto gyrated etcetc. I also own two sets of PVS-7s, two into one lenses. I purchased two 14s from TNVC, 3500.00 a pop.

I purchased two other sets of 14s, from a small start up company of Army Rangers in Seattle. These sets were Referbished 14s. I think they cost like 2500.00 a pop.

The PVS-7s, came from the ranger company aswell.

I recently inquired about another set for an associate. Was sad to learn their doing SURPLUS stuff, but not NV right now.

Your going to pay 3000.00 plus per set, so be prepared.

I recently hosted a dog and pony show, where’s some friends who are trainers for ATN, brought up some of the new ” White Light” models of night vision. New technology, and pretty slick.

” no green background, it’s white and appeared to be great quality stuff. I was told that the switch to this new generation of NODS, will be slow, due to costs, but that a bunch of the currant Gen III stuff will flood the market.

I’d like to share this, and I said it here before. Night vision is an absolute force multiplier. The ability to see and shoot hundreds of yards accurately in the darkest of nights, is a big deal.

Add a suppressor and an IR laser like the D-BAL-2 to a rifle any your light years ahead of the program.

The PVS14 is 3 k plus. The Suppressor is 1000.00 plus the tax stamp 200.00. The D-bal-2 is 900.00. The package is worth every penny.

I have three rifles with these set ups on them. Two m4-S and a Fn 308. The 308 can be switched to one of my m-14s.

The value added to the package is incredible. I can shoot others from 100s of yards away, leaving almost zero sound signature. Almost zero flash signature, and track my foes movement step for step.

Out of ALL of my preps, these rifle systems are perhaps the most important in terms of protecting our survival package. If you can’t defend it, it ain’t yours for long.

The psychological advantage added by these systems will be worth the costs.

So if you believe bad times are coming, you owe it to your families to be able to protect them, and your preps from raiders or others bent on making your kit, theirs.

I made the choice to scrap with anybody in my turf for my stuff, to include city county state and federal representatives.

Incidentally, the listed agencies at least here, currantly do not possess the abilities I have available. The State and Fed’s, have these items just not locally.

Keep in mind that Bight Vision devices can view other night vision devices. And IR lazer, which leads right back to your D-bal-2 in a firefight. Also the Dbals have green visible Lazers which work much better then red lazer in the sun light.

” personally I don’t see a need for Lazers in light, my sight package is for instant identification and targeting.

In the past 25 years I’ve used nods almost nightly. I actually had a set of PVS-21s hand reciepted to me may last three years as a deputy Sheriff. Most tier one military guys have never seen a set of those, truly remarkable.

I could drive as fast as I wanted 100 mph, on windy curve mountain roads, with zero lights on, with zero perception differences.

Gunns my friend, I guess so,etchings better then nothing. The gen one stuff does work, if it meets your needs, wonderful. In the late 80s, I had that stuff. I was greatful for it, saved my bacon more then once. The gen 3 and now gen 4 stuff is measurably by large margins better and better made, solid.

A 300 y shot with a14 mounted on a good rifle is easy Peasy, I do it all the time.

Should you get a 14 also purchase a mount called a TM14 mount, from TNVC, these mount directly behind your red dots, and co witness, easily.

When you shoulder your rifle and look thru the 14, you pick up the red dot, centered. It’s quick and sturdy.

Hope this helps

Dirk Williams

Statistics: Posted by Dirk Williams — Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:24 pm

I, “know a guy”….lol.

family friends….let me know if interested for a possible discount.

http://usnightvision.com/

some stuff you’ll not be allowed to have without current licensing(Military and LEO only) but let me know in PM if interested.

There’s “Stuff that works” but I don’t recommend anything under gen III…..

I also have had my hands in the IR Hunter…Its a really nice piece too but the owner is an A-Hole from what I understand….

As far as preps go, this is one of the last things you get because of the ticket price for entry, but don’t skimp on IMHO….

.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:33 am

I paid less than $300 for my NV. Its Gen 1 and I got it from Optics Planet. I use it on a harness to experiment at night with. It works great for what I need it for.

I can scan my whole property and see well to the road. Gets mighty dark here at night.

Would like to spend more on a better version, but its about what you want to do with it. Some on here are very serious night shooters and will spend that kind of money on NV.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:21 am

If you’re looking for some really good quality night vision gear you would want at least Generation III and for that you will need to break the bank. You will be looking at a $3000 to $4000 price tag for Gen III. An internet search can tell you where to get some good night vision. Aside from that I know stores such as Cabela’s and Bass Pro sell it.

Statistics: Posted by Photon Guy — Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:48 am

TNVC has some of the best stuff on the market tnvc.com

Statistics: Posted by apache235 — Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:25 am

Try “OpticsPlanet”, they seem to have good quality stuff. It all depends on how much you plan to spend…they have the bottom of the barrel stuff (Gen.1)-300.00 plus; up to Good quality-High end for 4000.00-5000.00 and up, for (Gen.4). I’ve shopped around for good quality optics, and they have some of the best prices.
I’m always looking for a reputable place to buy some quality optics at a decent price.

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:33 am

I am looking for a reputable place to buy a piece of night vision equipment. I do not want one of those place places that package up bottom of the line components to look like a piece of military equipment, but some one who sell stuff made from quality parts.

Thank you for any information.

Hank

Statistics: Posted by longrifle — Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:28 am

Cast Iron wrote:
I took a look at it when it first came out. Back then there was not as many bullets available.
Brass is not common, but then again neither are the .45Thumper, or the .458SOCOM.
Not sure if you can use other brass to make those.
While looking around, some mentioned it was likely easier to find 45-70govt than any of the above.
It is a good looking round. I can understand your interest.

I went up to Cabelas and picked up a large case of FMJ for this rifle last night. When I got home, I decided to look online for other suppliers of .50 Beo. Seems they make a brass bullet (350 grain spitzer) cartridge that will penetrate brick walls. In the description it reads: “for extremely dangerous game”. I was thinking “extremely dangerous”? As opposed to what, kinda dangerous or very dangerous? A rhino with a bad molar comes to mind.lol I can find all of the components at decent prices, but the TIME put in to reloading is a killer for me. I will probably save the brass and sell it to help offset new ammo purchases. I pick up the rifle tomorrow at my FFL dealer. I will have to post some pics when I get out and try it.

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:29 am

I may have to dig out the old shortwave! Recently several net articles have disappeared, even though I am very careful to keep addresses. All directly contradicted the official version of our various wars! My gut feeling is terrorism is good for business and our government wants to keep business happy! 1984!!! Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Sat May 27, 2017 10:05 pm

I may have to dig out the old shortwave! Recently several net articles have disappeared, even though I am very careful to keep addresses. All directly contradicted the official version of our various wars! My gut feeling is terrorism is good for business and our government wants to keep business happy! 1984!!! Swamp

Statistics: Posted by daaswampman — Sat May 27, 2017 10:05 pm

CNN…..Wow!!

For over 30 plus years now…some of us have called CNN…..Chicken Noodle News. We knew what it was way back then.

While Fox is better than most…I still do not trust them…as I know there are certain avenues of thinking for which they dare not go ..or allow..encourage. So too it is with the El Rushbo..and others in the talk show genre.

As to the news networks becoming soap operas…some of us have begun to describe this eroding of the networks at becoming Tabloid like. Very much like the Pulp magazines and cheap thrill newspapers at the check out stands at the drug store or Wally World.

More and more tabloid like….Jerry Springer like…Phil Donahue like….and less and less true reporting.

Point noted here Rickdun.

Well said (actually) Swamp, we’re our worst enemy. A lot of the internet is fake, like the hair color and teeth in the mouths of our politicians.

Here too Swamp

For every bit of truth there is an ocean of lies! We are seeing it in the endless commentary about Trump. I believe in free speech and I believe you should be held accountable for every word you say.

Considering our current behavior, we will soon loose the First for our own survival! Swamp

Gentlemen,

I too like Hickok 45 and his videos. I did not however…know that he was at one time under censorship..by the web. Thanks to the poster who brought this up. I am apparently not up to speed on these events.

I do not like censorship though I know that there is a lot of pure 24 carat garbage out there. I don’t want anyone telling me what I can or cannot watch, listen to, or read. My main problem is that someone out there wants to herd me into the dead, inert, blandness which passes for knowledge and entertainment today. Not interested. In particular I do not like the PC which is trying to pass for thinking, knowledge, and even entertainment. I will do my own thinking and make up my own mind…thank you.
I am just not interested in being herded as such…or if you prefer….”Gaslighted as such!!”

Talk about a whole load of “Flatulence!!” That is what I think of much of the news, public education, much of leadership today…and both political parties. Also much of what is trying to pass for history.

You readers don’t have to buy into that but it is my personal view.

My mad musings and personal .02,

Orangetom

A post script here …

I am a licensed ham radio operator..but for many many years and before getting my license I operated a short wave listening radio by which I was able to tune in the world from an olde copper wire strung out back to my clothes line pole.
When foreign radio stations would broadcast in English I was to learn bits and pieces of news and information which never got into the main stream news here in the states.
This was before home computers and what happened was that I was , over time , able to realize a mosaic big enough to see that there was even back then a heavy paper curtain over this country and a supposedly free people. Most Americans did not have a clue that this was going on.

I had also a friend who went to work for the Richmond Ledger and RichmondTimes Dispatch in their night maintenance while he went to school in the daytime for his degree. He told me how many of the stories which came in via independent reporters or over the wires …never were printed or allowed out into the public because of the slant of the editors.
This further confirmed my suspicions about the rigged news and information markets.

I continue to carry, in my daily BOB, a small portable short wave set, battery operated, with Single Sideband Capabilities. Also spare batteries for that radio daily. A ham walkie talkie as well. 2 meter/70 CM. When I am not busy and away from my base station I listen to this radio world wide…as well as what many of the hams are thinking.

Many of the hams out here are disgusted with the MSM and are also in support of that fellow in Montana who body slammed that reporter.

Short wave listening has not ceased with me even though I have this computer. With continued censorship I think it will become even more important.

Talked to my friend out in Tennessee for about 45 minutes on my ham radio this evening. Hope to hook up with him again tomorrow night…distance of some 400 miles from here. We talked about what happened in Montana.

Again my .02,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 9:07 pm

CNN…..Wow!!

For over 30 plus years now…some of us have called CNN…..Chicken Noodle News. We knew what it was way back then.

While Fox is better than most…I still do not trust them…as I know there are certain avenues of thinking for which they dare not go ..or allow..encourage. So too it is with the El Rushbo..and others in the talk show genre.

As to the news networks becoming soap operas…some of us have begun to describe this eroding of the networks at becoming Tabloid like. Very much like the Pulp magazines and cheap thrill newspapers at the check out stands at the drug store or Wally World.

More and more tabloid like….Jerry Springer like…Phil Donahue like….and less and less true reporting.

Point noted here Rickdun.

Well said (actually) Swamp, we’re our worst enemy. A lot of the internet is fake, like the hair color and teeth in the mouths of our politicians.

Here too Swamp

For every bit of truth there is an ocean of lies! We are seeing it in the endless commentary about Trump. I believe in free speech and I believe you should be held accountable for every word you say.

Considering our current behavior, we will soon loose the First for our own survival! Swamp

Gentlemen,

I too like Hickok 45 and his videos. I did not however…know that he was at one time under censorship..by the web. Thanks to the poster who brought this up. I am apparently not up to speed on these events.

I do not like censorship though I know that there is a lot of pure 24 carat garbage out there. I don’t want anyone telling me what I can or cannot watch, listen to, or read. My main problem is that someone out there wants to herd me into the dead, inert, blandness which passes for knowledge and entertainment today. Not interested. In particular I do not like the PC which is trying to pass for thinking, knowledge, and even entertainment. I will do my own thinking and make up my own mind…thank you.
I am just not interested in being herded as such…or if you prefer….”Gaslighted as such!!”

Talk about a whole load of “Flatulence!!” That is what I think of much of the news, public education, much of leadership today…and both political parties. Also much of what is trying to pass for history.

You readers don’t have to buy into that but it is my personal view.

My mad musings and personal .02,

Orangetom

A post script here …

I am a licensed ham radio operator..but for many many years and before getting my license I operated a short wave listening radio by which I was able to tune in the world from an olde copper wire strung out back to my clothes line pole.
When foreign radio stations would broadcast in English I was to learn bits and pieces of news and information which never got into the main stream news here in the states.
This was before home computers and what happened was that I was , over time , able to realize a mosaic big enough to see that there was even back then a heavy paper curtain over this country and a supposedly free people. Most Americans did not have a clue that this was going on.

I had also a friend who went to work for the Richmond Ledger and RichmondTimes Dispatch in their night maintenance while he went to school in the daytime for his degree. He told me how many of the stories which came in via independent reporters or over the wires …never were printed or allowed out into the public because of the slant of the editors.
This further confirmed my suspicions about the rigged news and information markets.

I continue to carry, in my daily BOB, a small portable short wave set, battery operated, with Single Sideband Capabilities. Also spare batteries for that radio daily. A ham walkie talkie as well. 2 meter/70 CM. When I am not busy and away from my base station I listen to this radio world wide…as well as what many of the hams are thinking.

Many of the hams out here are disgusted with the MSM and are also in support of that fellow in Montana who body slammed that reporter.

Short wave listening has not ceased with me even though I have this computer. With continued censorship I think it will become even more important.

Talked to my friend out in Tennessee for about 45 minutes on my ham radio this evening. Hope to hook up with him again tomorrow night…distance of some 400 miles from here. We talked about what happened in Montana.

Again my .02,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 9:07 pm

Wow Dan,

($26.99 for 20 rounds was the cheapest I could find…)

Yeah….that is what I found with this 41 Magnum. Locally ammo is in the high 20s to some 35 bucks for twenty rounds.

Once I found out where to get the brass locally I was ok rolling my own.

But that 50 Beowulf is a very unique type of brass In the manner it is made.

Enjoy shooting it. It is indeed a powerful round close up..in close.

Keep them in the X ring,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 2:04 pm

Wow Dan,

($26.99 for 20 rounds was the cheapest I could find…)

Yeah….that is what I found with this 41 Magnum. Locally ammo is in the high 20s to some 35 bucks for twenty rounds.

Once I found out where to get the brass locally I was ok rolling my own.

But that 50 Beowulf is a very unique type of brass In the manner it is made.

Enjoy shooting it. It is indeed a powerful round close up..in close.

Keep them in the X ring,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 2:04 pm

I had never heard of the Sig 320 before reading your post. Looked it up on the Sig site and was shocked to see its a new design with a striker and no hammer. That Romeo sight may have its advantages and improve accuracy but would be very impractical for carrying and drawing. Special holster required so this piece may be delegated to occupying a desk drawer at home or used at the range only. I have a P220 and love it, very accurate and reliable but anytime a manufacturer comes out with a new model I always wait and let someone else buy one and let them discover any potential flaws in the new design.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Sat May 27, 2017 10:44 am

I had never heard of the Sig 320 before reading your post. Looked it up on the Sig site and was shocked to see its a new design with a striker and no hammer. That Romeo sight may have its advantages and improve accuracy but would be very impractical for carrying and drawing. Special holster required so this piece may be delegated to occupying a desk drawer at home or used at the range only. I have a P220 and love it, very accurate and reliable but anytime a manufacturer comes out with a new model I always wait and let someone else buy one and let them discover any potential flaws in the new design.

Statistics: Posted by Fullmoon — Sat May 27, 2017 10:44 am

Hmmmm…Hadn’t seen that sight. Thanks for the heads up…

I don’t know how I’d like having that on my EDC, but that’s some serious eye candy.

Guaranteed to make my Scorpion a $1,700.00 bad (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) mo’fo that only I get to admire if carried properly….lol.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sat May 27, 2017 10:33 am

Hmmmm…Hadn’t seen that sight. Thanks for the heads up…

I don’t know how I’d like having that on my EDC, but that’s some serious eye candy.

Guaranteed to make my Scorpion a $1,700.00 bad (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) mo’fo that only I get to admire if carried properly….lol.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Sat May 27, 2017 10:33 am

Well, apparently it’s “later this year”… I found a guy out of Montana who takes the Alexander Arms Beowulf .50 and slicks them out. Tactical Realm is where I found this beast:
http://shop.tacticalrealm.com/Custom-Bu … _p_13.html
Should be ready for pick up at my FFL dealer by next weekend. I will take pics and post a little about it once I get up to the hills to try it out. Maybe I should start a “go fund me” account so I can buy some ammo.lol ($26.99 for 20 rounds was the cheapest I could find…)

Statistics: Posted by MrDanB — Sat May 27, 2017 5:21 am