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Guns • got around to shooting my SW SD40 VE.

October 19, 2017 orangetom1999 0

I made time this morning to go to the gun club and shoot my S&W SD40 VE.The gun does have a significant recoil as expected with factory ammo…but I also shot some reloads and it cycled fine.I shot from about 15 feet the first time today….and it…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

BK in KC wrote:Reb passed away in early September, the memorial thread is here: http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=769&t=55911His wit and wisdom is greatly missed.BK in KC,Thank you for the update. I have been away from this s…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

BK in KC wrote:Reb passed away in early September, the memorial thread is here: http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=769&t=55911His wit and wisdom is greatly missed.BK in KC,Thank you for the update. I have been away from this s…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

BK in KC wrote:Reb passed away in early September, the memorial thread is here: http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=769&t=55911His wit and wisdom is greatly missed.BK in KC,Thank you for the update. I have been away from this s…

Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

BK in KC wrote:Reb passed away in early September, the memorial thread is here: http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=769&t=55911His wit and wisdom is greatly missed.BK in KC,Thank you for the update. I have been away from this s…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

BK in KC wrote:Reb passed away in early September, the memorial thread is here: http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=769&t=55911His wit and wisdom is greatly missed.BK in KC,Thank you for the update. I have been away from this s…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 15, 2017 BK in KC 0

orangetom1999 wrote:Drivenbyknowledge,Goodness me..I am stunned at your post and did not know as I’ve not been on this board in awhile now.Did RebNavy pass away…and when if so. This is all news and a shock to me.I have never met the man but thorough…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Drivenbyknowledge,Goodness me..I am stunned at your post and did not know as I’ve not been on this board in awhile now.Did RebNavy pass away…and when if so. This is all news and a shock to me.I have never met the man but thoroughly enjoyed reading i…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 7, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

oldasrocks wrote:little_nova57 wrote:oldasrocks wrote:But But But~! I saw a new shoulder holster where I can carry a short barreled shotgun on my left side. I don’t have a Serbu and I need one. I kick myself when I saw that 10 gauge lever action sho…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 7, 2017 Photon Guy 0

arkieready wrote:Photon, yes I do live rural. not as rural as it used to be. And Ice IS correct. I do need a pistol at times. I carry when I brush hog– in case a mama coyote takes exception to mowing near her den, or a two legged varmint hiding i…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 7, 2017 IceFire 0

Yep. In fact, I had to use my revolver just last week on the BIG western diamondback rattlesnake that had been hanging around (I think it was actually taking up residence under the house) and making it’s appearances around 9-10pm, threatening the dogs…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 7, 2017 IceFire 0

Yep. In fact, I had to use my revolver just last week on the BIG western diamondback rattlesnake that had been hanging around (I think it was actually taking up residence under the house) and making it’s appearances around 9-10pm, threatening the dogs…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 arkieready 0

Photon, yes I do live rural. not as rural as it used to be. And Ice IS correct. I do need a pistol at times. I carry when I brush hog– in case a mama coyote takes exception to mowing near her den, or a two legged varmint hiding in the tree line h…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 oldasrocks 0

little_nova57 wrote:oldasrocks wrote:But But But~! I saw a new shoulder holster where I can carry a short barreled shotgun on my left side. I don’t have a Serbu and I need one. I kick myself when I saw that 10 gauge lever action shotgun and didn’t b…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 Cast Iron 0

A mildly amusing video.Be nice to be able to afford all those firearms.But I have more important things to spend my money on.Firearms are like any tool, use the right one for the right job. Have all the basics covered, shotgun for hunting, shotgun fo…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 rickdun 0

Loved the video. In my younger years I was the same way and accumulated many weapons over the years. Some were handed down to me from my granddad and some from my dad. But, over the years, I believe I have as many if not more then the Las Vegas shoote…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 Photon Guy 0

arkieready wrote:A little over 10 years ago, I was in the "why do you need a pistol" crowd. Understood long guns, had a couple. Fast forward a couple years, I bought a crappy, worn out .357 revolver to help someone out financially. That. …

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 6, 2017 arkieready 0

A little over 10 years ago, I was in the "why do you need a pistol" crowd. Understood long guns, had a couple. Fast forward a couple years, I bought a crappy, worn out .357 revolver to help someone out financially. That. Was. All. She. …

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 5, 2017 little_nova57 0

oldasrocks wrote:But But But~! I saw a new shoulder holster where I can carry a short barreled shotgun on my left side. I don’t have a Serbu and I need one. I kick myself when I saw that 10 gauge lever action shotgun and didn’t buy it. Should have b…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 5, 2017 oldasrocks 0

sageprice wrote:Wood bums of the forties made do with just a 22lr. They are quiet, stealthy, and deadly. Even if I could afford an AR15 I would still have it chambered to a 22. Spraying the woods with lead is just wasteful and excuse for well placed …

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 5, 2017 sageprice 0

Wood bums of the forties made do with just a 22lr. They are quiet, stealthy, and deadly. Even if I could afford an AR15 I would still have it chambered to a 22. Spraying the woods with lead is just wasteful and excuse for well placed shoots. You worr…

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 5, 2017 arkieready 0

Hahahahaha. Had me for a second. Sent it to DH. So like him. I have to admit, I have a little bit of "want". But no $$$. I do peruse holsters every chance I get. Purse carry isn’t working, unless I carry the purse.Statistics: Posted …

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Guns • Re: Why You Shouldn’t Get Into Guns

October 5, 2017 oldasrocks 0

But But But~! I saw a new shoulder holster where I can carry a short barreled shotgun on my left side. I don’t have a Serbu and I need one. I kick myself when I saw that 10 gauge lever action shotgun and didn’t buy it. Should have bought that old ar…

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October 5, 2017 NJMike 0

That was funny. I can relate only a little bit to this, for example wanting to have a model in all its possible calibers. The cost of accessorizing I’ve really tried to be frugal with. I’m a less is more type. So I laughed at the Kardashifying comment…

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Guns • Re: What the 2nd Amendment means

September 30, 2017 RockinB 0

This “militia recognition statement” derived from George Mason’s Virginia writings, is the only sentence written by Madison in the Bill of Rights that is not actionable, strongly worded, prohibiting, limiting or enforceable. The only one. Madison was against this Bill of Rights because he believed it was a poor protection of Liberty. The People of the States demanded it. Without George Mason’s support, the Bill of Rights might not exist.

The Debate was between Virginia’s well regulated militia, Pennsylvannia’s Individual right to bear arms, and the Massaschusetts model circa 1791 which was specifically rejected by the First Congress.

Now we are down to two models being debated.
1) Virginia’s well Regulated Militia / George Mason – Harringtonian model.
2) Pennsylvannia’s Radical Individual Right to Arms / Jeffersonian suffrage model.

I’m sure most of us can figure out which model Madison pointed towards just by reading the enforceable portion of the 2nd Amendment.

Why any thinking human can read the Bill of Rights and key off of the only sentence written in it that is not actionable, not strongly worded, not prohibiting, not limiting and not enforceable somehow becomes the entire actionable meaning and intent of the founders is absurd.

Happy Saturday Armed Preppers!

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September 28, 2017 3ADScout 0

There is some great case law on this including several recent cases. One of the Supreame Courts best arguments that the second amendement is an “individual” right is that if the court would interpret “the people” in the second amendment to mean the state then “the people” in the first, 9th and 10th would also mean “the state”. They clearly do not, hence the Supreame court has ruled that “the people” is just that “the people” not the state.

There are several good books on the history of the “militia”. Back in the day merchant ships purchased cannons to protect there ships. When one looks at the “militia Act of 1792” it is very clear that citizens were expected to be armed with a suitable weapon of the day. If the arguement is that an AR 15 couldn’t be foreseen by the founders and thus can be rugulated then the same could be argued for computers.

Several years back I was lucky enough to purchase a training manual for the militia (early 1900’s) There were 3 militia camps- Red, White and Blue. One color was for enlisted, one for NCOs and the other for Officers. Very organized.

Sad that we went from a nation at revered our arms to a nation that in many places cowers in fear at the mere sight of a child making a “gun” with his hands/fingers. So sad.

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Guns • What the 2nd Amendment means

September 28, 2017 Photon Guy 0

The 2nd Amendment, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Now, some people like to say that what its saying is that you should have access to weapons only if you’re part of a well regulated militia, another words, only if you’re part of the police or military. So only if you work for the government and if you’ve got a job for the government that involves using weapons should you have access to them. The thing is, that would be absurd. Why would a government have to give itself permission to bear arms? I’ve never known of any government in the world that gives itself to bear arms, and yet all the governments in the world do have weapons. Now, some people like to say that the 2nd amendment doesn’t mean that you can have any weapon for any reason and that would include “military grade weapons.” Citizens should not have access to military grade weapons. Well here’s the problem, when you use terminology such as “military grade,” that can include knives. Infantry soldiers are issued fighting knives and so when you say citizens shouldn’t have access to military grade weapons that could mean such knives. To say citizens shouldn’t be able to get knives just because soldiers use them is absurd. No, if you ask me, and I think this is quite clear, the 2nd Amendment means a citizen should have access to the same weapons an individual soldier would use. Now, some might argue that with that line of reasoning Im saying a citizen should have access to tanks, battleships, nuclear bombs, ect. Well no. Im talking about weapons an individual soldier would use such as a fully automatic or burst fire rifle. An individual soldier does not use a tank, it takes a team to operate a tank. Both battleship and nuclear bombs obviously take lots of people to operate. But any weapon an individual soldier uses and operates by himself a citizen should be able to legally acquire and possess. That is what the 2nd Amendment says.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 27, 2017 Photon Guy 0
TRex2 wrote:
As far as keeping the ammo from condensation, the buckets should work fine. As far as the temperature, as long as the temperature in the buckets doesn’t exceed 130 Fahrenheit or get cold enough to condense moisture in the bucket it will be fine (you might want to add one of those desiccant packs).

As for a reason you might want to use the metal cans instead of the buckets is this: ammo tends to self ignite (cook off) around 270 degrees (or higher), and if there is a fire, the metal cans give a margin of safety that they buckets do not. That, ease of transport, and making it easy for you to remember where your ammo is are the only reasons I can think of.

Ease of transport and ease of storage are good reasons for using the metal cans instead of buckets. Aside from that, metal cans are definitely better for long term storage.

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September 27, 2017 TRex2 0
angie_nrs wrote:
Do I need to buy ammo cans for proper ammo storage or can I use food buckets? There are cheap plastic plano ammo cans at WM for around $5, but I can get food grade buckets free. Right now I store ammo in the house where it is dry, but I want to expand where I store ammo. The temperature may not be as steady in my secondary spot, possibly causing condensation issues.

I know I couldn’t fill the buckets b/c they would be way too heavy, even with the smaller 2 gallon buckets, but at least they would be hidden from plain sight. I’m thinking it would make sense to put the silica packs in with the buckets?

I didn’t see a thread specifically addressing ammo storage so I thought this would be a good discussion to have. Let’s discuss……

As far as keeping the ammo from condensation, the buckets should work fine. As far as the temperature, as long as the temperature in the buckets doesn’t exceed 130 Fahrenheit or get cold enough to condense moisture in the bucket it will be fine (you might want to add one of those desiccant packs).

As for a reason you might want to use the metal cans instead of the buckets is this: ammo tends to self ignite (cook off) around 270 degrees (or higher), and if there is a fire, the metal cans give a margin of safety that they buckets do not. That, ease of transport, and making it easy for you to remember where your ammo is are the only reasons I can think of.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 27, 2017 TRex2 0
angie_nrs wrote:
Do I need to buy ammo cans for proper ammo storage or can I use food buckets? There are cheap plastic plano ammo cans at WM for around $5, but I can get food grade buckets free. Right now I store ammo in the house where it is dry, but I want to expand where I store ammo. The temperature may not be as steady in my secondary spot, possibly causing condensation issues.

I know I couldn’t fill the buckets b/c they would be way too heavy, even with the smaller 2 gallon buckets, but at least they would be hidden from plain sight. I’m thinking it would make sense to put the silica packs in with the buckets?

I didn’t see a thread specifically addressing ammo storage so I thought this would be a good discussion to have. Let’s discuss……

As far as keeping the ammo from condensation, the buckets should work fine. As far as the temperature, as long as the temperature in the buckets doesn’t exceed 130 Fahrenheit or get cold enough to condense moisture in the bucket it will be fine (you might want to add one of those desiccant packs).

As for a reason you might want to use the metal cans instead of the buckets is this: ammo tends to self ignite (cook off) around 270 degrees (or higher), and if there is a fire, the metal cans give a margin of safety that they buckets do not. That, ease of transport, and making it easy for you to remember where your ammo is are the only reasons I can think of.

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September 27, 2017 TRex2 0
angie_nrs wrote:
Do I need to buy ammo cans for proper ammo storage or can I use food buckets? There are cheap plastic plano ammo cans at WM for around $5, but I can get food grade buckets free. Right now I store ammo in the house where it is dry, but I want to expand where I store ammo. The temperature may not be as steady in my secondary spot, possibly causing condensation issues.

I know I couldn’t fill the buckets b/c they would be way too heavy, even with the smaller 2 gallon buckets, but at least they would be hidden from plain sight. I’m thinking it would make sense to put the silica packs in with the buckets?

I didn’t see a thread specifically addressing ammo storage so I thought this would be a good discussion to have. Let’s discuss……

As far as keeping the ammo from condensation, the buckets should work fine. As far as the temperature, as long as the temperature in the buckets doesn’t exceed 130 Fahrenheit or get cold enough to condense moisture in the bucket it will be fine (you might want to add one of those desiccant packs).

As for a reason you might want to use the metal cans instead of the buckets is this: ammo tends to self ignite (cook off) around 270 degrees (or higher), and if there is a fire, the metal cans give a margin of safety that they buckets do not. That, ease of transport, and making it easy for you to remember where your ammo is are the only reasons I can think of.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 27, 2017 TRex2 0
angie_nrs wrote:
Do I need to buy ammo cans for proper ammo storage or can I use food buckets? There are cheap plastic plano ammo cans at WM for around $5, but I can get food grade buckets free. Right now I store ammo in the house where it is dry, but I want to expand where I store ammo. The temperature may not be as steady in my secondary spot, possibly causing condensation issues.

I know I couldn’t fill the buckets b/c they would be way too heavy, even with the smaller 2 gallon buckets, but at least they would be hidden from plain sight. I’m thinking it would make sense to put the silica packs in with the buckets?

I didn’t see a thread specifically addressing ammo storage so I thought this would be a good discussion to have. Let’s discuss……

As far as keeping the ammo from condensation, the buckets should work fine. As far as the temperature, as long as the temperature in the buckets doesn’t exceed 130 Fahrenheit or get cold enough to condense moisture in the bucket it will be fine (you might want to add one of those desiccant packs).

As for a reason you might want to use the metal cans instead of the buckets is this: ammo tends to self ignite (cook off) around 270 degrees (or higher), and if there is a fire, the metal cans give a margin of safety that they buckets do not. That, ease of transport, and making it easy for you to remember where your ammo is are the only reasons I can think of.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 25, 2017 ReadyMom 0

So … Coincidentally, as this thread is in discussion, this week, I was at my 86 y/o dad’s house. Sorting every room, in preparation to downsize him from our family home. I came across this box of ammo. Do I save? Is it safe? I found it just sitting on his closet shelf! Circa mid 1960’s: image-54701.jpegimage-54709.jpeg image-54695.jpeg image-54688.jpeg image-54673.jpeg image-54682.jpeg

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September 22, 2017 Photon Guy 0
angie_nrs wrote:
Thanks for the comments everyone! I may have been overthinking this one a bit. I’m going to grab some ammo cans and diversify my storage. I’m sure I’ve got ammo stored that will outlast me……at least I hope so. I guess my main concerns should be theft, water, and fire. Storing ammo in different places and in different types of containers should mitigate these concerns, so that’s my plan.

If nothing else at least it’s a good investment as the price is going nowhere but up. I also think there’s a day coming in the not so distant future where all ammo purchases will have to be logged or registered. I’m stocking up now while it’s still legal and cash is still king.

Good for you in getting the ammo cans, I doubt you will regret it. The ammo cans work just fine for me and as I said before you can use them to store ammo indefinitely. As for theft, water, and fire, if you’ve got the money you could buy a high quality safe and use it to store not just ammo but guns as well as the safes are designed primarily for storing guns but can obviously be used to store ammo too and just about anything else you want to keep safe, jewelry, important documents, ect. I’ve got a liberty safe myself. You want to do your research before buying a safe if you plan to do that, find the one that’s the best for your money, that’s the hardest to break into and that has the highest fire rating. As for water, if your area is prone to flooding Im afraid the safes aren’t watertight. Safes will even collect moisture inside so its a good idea to get one of those small dehumidifiers that you can put in the safe. Keep up the good work.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 21, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Thanks for the comments everyone! I may have been overthinking this one a bit. I’m going to grab some ammo cans and diversify my storage. I’m sure I’ve got ammo stored that will outlast me……at least I hope so. I guess my main concerns should be theft, water, and fire. Storing ammo in different places and in different types of containers should mitigate these concerns, so that’s my plan.

If nothing else at least it’s a good investment as the price is going nowhere but up. I also think there’s a day coming in the not so distant future where all ammo purchases will have to be logged or registered. I’m stocking up now while it’s still legal and cash is still king.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:33 pm