General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 23, 2017 Murby 0
air commando wrote:

Murby wrote:Just vacuum canned 50 lbs of powdered whole eggs into 1/2 gallon jars. It works out to 1850 eggs or 12 gallons or 24 +1 of the half gallon jars.

Since they are just vacuum canned where do you store them and how long will they last? Where did you buy 50# of powdered whole egg?

We vacuum canned them AND put in an oxygen absorber.. Our vacuum pulls down to 29 inches so its far better than a food saver. I then pack the 1/2 gallon jars into cardboard boxes in our food storage pantry in the basement to keep out the light.. its cool down there. Should last 15 to 20 years under heavy vacuum. I suppose a mylar bag with oxygen absorber would probably get you 10 to 15 years at least… maybe 20.

I’m an engineer and did some design work for a large factory that produces the powdered eggs. I called up the plant manager and asked him if I could buy a box and he sent me an entire pallet of them for free.. I ended up with ten boxes at 50 lbs each on a pallet.. They’re delicious! I can’t even tell the difference between real eggs or powdered when my wife makes french toast or an omelette.

I kept one box and sold the other nine.. they didn’t even last a week at $180 per box. A 50lb box is the rough equivalent of around 1800 eggs.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 23, 2017 ajax727 0

Hope to finish a new chicken house for our girls today and get them moved in . The reason for the new stronger house is because of a big red tail hawk and a bigger eagle who is large enough to fly off with a baby goat wing span of about five feet .
I will not remove them unless they try to eat my livestock for dinner if this happens all bets are off and a hole will be dug filled and covered up .

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 22, 2017 Murby 0

Just added 2 gallons of cheap vodka, 24 cans (1 case) of store bought canned peas, +24 cans of mixed vegetables, +24 cans of corn… (they were all on sale for buy 1 get one free).

Decided that my single Armalite AR10 should not be the only high powered combat firearm in the home so I’ve started looking at purchasing an AR15 chambered in 556. Considering a Daniel Defense or LWRC with 10 mags and an AimPoint Pro red dot sight.. still deciding on that.

I have also built up a stock of open top 55 gallon drums.. If SHTF happens, I plan to use the loader to fill them with dirt for use as bullet proof cover positions. I currently have about 60 of them.

We’re only on our 2nd month of prepping so we’re still in full steam mode..

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 22, 2017 woodchipper518 0

I had lost my preparedness mojo for the last couple of months. Distracted with business, complacent, etc. I had stopped watching the news, stopped looking at Facebook, etc. Something switched back on and now I am back evaluating and preparing….

– Improved my vehicle emergency preps and reorganized things I had forgotten I even had.

– Re-building 2 INCH bags and actually asked my future SIL to participate to challenge my thinking and prep items. (also I transferring my daughter’s survival responsibility to him…he needs to change his lone wolf survival thinking)

– switched out a AR pistol upper in 300BO to be chambered in .223 which makes more sense. I’ll either keep the 300BO upper or sell it. It’s relegated to a play thing now but still has value as a backup weapon.

– started saving $$ aside so I can buy preps that complete existing gaps. Mostly antibiotics and additional ammo to replace what I’ve been shooting up since Thanksgiving. The AR upper was not a great use of my $$ but it’s done and I don’t have any regrets except lack of antibiotics

– swapped out my 5 gal water cans with fresh water

– started pouring my year old stabilized gas into my car’s gas tank and replacing it. This will take a several tanks to do as I am only adding 2.5gal of stored gas to my tank. I’m a bit paranoid about the impact to my engine.

– Presented to a small group of like-minded preparedness folks the concept of personal security away from home. Two other guys covered: home security and general security concepts without emphasis on guns. Yep, even in Texas we have folks that are biggots about guns…geez.

– working on another hands-on meeting for this weekend with the same group on firestarting skills and tarp setups. This could be embarrassing since I have not played with these topics in a very long time. My shelter bag looks solid so it’ll be a test of it, too.

– started back on my family e-journal – preparedness manual for our specific preps. I print updated pages so it’s generally current in printed form most of the time.

– Planned:
– clean out frozen meats, eat and replace.
– store some beans, rice that need to be mylar’d
– redistribute my medical and hygiene preps into a red bucket for immediate grab & run
– Food, water, food, water….knowledge.
– re-learn my very aged skills in leather-working
– plan my get-home and bug-out routes, get maps, mark, laminate and distribute to friends. Having these in my head is useless to all (duh!)

I guess I did get my mojo back afterall!

Statistics: Posted by woodchipper518 — Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am


General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 22, 2017 Cast Iron 0
IceFire wrote:
Other than the current nutrient deficiency in the mass-produced, mono-cropped food, the problem isn’t so much food PRODUCTION (except for the susceptibility of mono-cropped crops to pests and diseases, and risks of drought and floods, etc.) as it is food DISTRIBUTION. Computer glitches, fuel shortages, trucker strike, corrupt officials diverting supplies, etc. can ALL prevent food from reaching the people who need it. The whole system is a LOT more fragile than most people realize (or are willing to admit.)

That is just one of the reasons (among many) that I try to produce as much of my own food as possible.

And that is what I took away from The Guardian article.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 22, 2017 oldasrocks 0

Next questions: Who is going to pay for all the food we produce? Do we give it away? Isn’t it a fact that if we feed the masses they produce more babies iIs it more humane to let a million starve to death today or 10 million 10 years from now? OR do we force birth control on people the way the chinese have?

Most of these hungry places have the soil and ability to grow their own food except for the troubles involved. Wouldn’t it be better if we went in and destroyed the bad guys, terrorists and other gangs? Search and destroy would be a lot better in my eyes.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 22, 2017 IceFire 0

Other than the current nutrient deficiency in the mass-produced, mono-cropped food, the problem isn’t so much food PRODUCTION (except for the susceptibility of mono-cropped crops to pests and diseases, and risks of drought and floods, etc.) as it is food DISTRIBUTION. Computer glitches, fuel shortages, trucker strike, corrupt officials diverting supplies, etc. can ALL prevent food from reaching the people who need it. The whole system is a LOT more fragile than most people realize (or are willing to admit.)

That is just one of the reasons (among many) that I try to produce as much of my own food as possible.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 22, 2017 Cast Iron 0
anita wrote:
I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating in this context. My degree is in Food Science, and in my studies, in my work, in my time writing about the food industry, I never heard anyone, not ANYONE, speak about the nutrition of the food produced. (At one point I interviewed the head of a food science department at one of the large land grant universities about food production in the future.) It was all about how to produce sufficient food for the rising population. They don’t worry about nutrition.

Herein lies the problem. Producing crap with empty calories, growing produce on depleted land that needs a lot of fertilizer, (not all countries worry about what is used as fertilizer–hence e coli/etc infections caused by produce), and feed lots that rely on antibiotics may produce plenty of food, but not quality food.

Producing enough food and producing quality foods are two very different things. This is why I garden.

Anita,
Ever read any of Dr. Albrecht’s writings, namely on Pastures, volume 6 of his papers?

He has a section (Chapter 8, Discriminations in Food Selection by Animals, page 61) where animals can detect by smell the quality hay or even grain, giving preference to the higher quality.

Growth, bone density, and even reproductive systems were also impacted by quality.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 anita 0

I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating in this context. My degree is in Food Science, and in my studies, in my work, in my time writing about the food industry, I never heard anyone, not ANYONE, speak about the nutrition of the food produced. (At one point I interviewed the head of a food science department at one of the large land grant universities about food production in the future.) It was all about how to produce sufficient food for the rising population. They don’t worry about nutrition.

Herein lies the problem. Producing crap with empty calories, growing produce on depleted land that needs a lot of fertilizer, (not all countries worry about what is used as fertilizer–hence e coli/etc infections caused by produce), and feed lots that rely on antibiotics may produce plenty of food, but not quality food.

Producing enough food and producing quality foods are two very different things. This is why I garden.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 oldasrocks 0

Your right. We have sent food to various countries and the guberments steal it and feed the soldiers while the populace starves. Wasn’t it in Ethiopia where a lot of the grain was left to rot and the rest of it sold to buy more bullets?
Another note: In Taiwan right now food prices have gone through the ceiling. The imports from Japan had tested positive for radioactivity so imports were cut off.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 sageprice 0
Gunns wrote:
BS I repeat BS. This is Socialist Progressive nonsense. This planet can grow more food then the human population can consume. We grow more then enough food to sustain over 10 billion people. With improvements already being researched we could grow food for 20 billion easily.

Now just how delicate that balance is, is another discussion. Like stated previously, disruption to the fuel supply would curb that significantly. Our problems are not how we produce our food, its the people.

Gunns is correct. If it weren’t for corrupt politicians and government food would be more than enough for the world. Unfortunately the are alway some who wants to skim a little more profit off the top.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 oldasrocks 0
rickdun wrote:
I don’t know about a failure of the food chain but China owns many large farms in the U.S.. Remember back in 2014, (Zerohedge.com) had an artical about China, they bought Smithfield foods, the largest pork producer/processor in the world. The facilities are in 26 states, they own 460 farms and has contracts with 2100 other farms. China can put a little heat on the food chain if they want to.

I guess China could hire all the Muslim refugees to work in these pork farms, it’ll give them a start in the U.S..

Excellent idea. Spread the word that any immigrant that wants to come to the USA first has to work in a pig farm for 3 years.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 oldasrocks 0
rickdun wrote:
I don’t know about a failure of the food chain but China owns many large farms in the U.S.. Remember back in 2014, (Zerohedge.com) had an artical about China, they bought Smithfield foods, the largest pork producer/processor in the world. The facilities are in 26 states, they own 460 farms and has contracts with 2100 other farms. China can put a little heat on the food chain if they want to.

I guess China could hire all the Muslim refugees to work in these pork farms, it’ll give them a start in the U.S..

Excellent idea. Spread the word that any immigrant that wants to come to the USA first has to work in a pig farm for 3 years.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 rickdun 0

I don’t know about a failure of the food chain but China owns many large farms in the U.S.. Remember back in 2014, (Zerohedge.com) had an artical about China, they bought Smithfield foods, the largest pork producer/processor in the world. The facilities are in 26 states, they own 460 farms and has contracts with 2100 other farms. China can put a little heat on the food chain if they want to.

I guess China could hire all the Muslim refugees to work in these pork farms, it’ll give them a start in the U.S..

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 Gunns 0

BS I repeat BS. This is Socialist Progressive nonsense. This planet can grow more food then the human population can consume. We grow more then enough food to sustain over 10 billion people. With improvements already being researched we could grow food for 20 billion easily.

Now just how delicate that balance is, is another discussion. Like stated previously, disruption to the fuel supply would curb that significantly. Our problems are not how we produce our food, its the people.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:36 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 19, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve not been as industrious as everyone else. A week of travel out of state and the week after with sinusitis will do that. On the bright side, I managed to get through the sickness without having to take the AB that was prescribed. Guess I’ll save that for a rainy day. ;)

Harvested my first fresnel lens out of a huge 50″ projection TV someone left by a dumpster. It was surprising easy to remove. I’ve left it in the plastic TV bezel for now, and will try it out on another weekend. Removed a few other items to find a use for as well (3 sets of magnifying lenses, speakers, and a large trapezoidal mirror).

I also started some seeds indoors. I skipped doing a garden last year. I’m doing containers this year until I move again.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 18, 2017 Cin 0

Grocery shopping today.

Restocked what we used.

Decided to start a bucket for a year’s worth of tea again.

Husband canned 10 half pints of bacon today. I got a pint of lard out of that. :)

Our weather has been improving into Spring very early…we’re seeing bees in our yard. And the birds flying north – Canada geese and ducks, plus the birds returning to our area. I am concerned…only because we had an early Spring a few years ago, and then a late ice storm hit and destroyed locally grown crops for the entire year.

Still de-cluttering, I worked on clearing out the fabric stash. The niece will be very happy to get some of it.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 17, 2017 kenjabroni 0

Planted a Fig, Apple and Peach tree today. My first fruit trees on the land. Hopefully they do well. I did my research and I think I will be alright. I also planted some peppers by seed and then went out and bought some tomatoes cabbage and lettuce to plant in my first garden bed. Also put a few marigolds in the ground to attract some pollinators. Thinking of putting in some corn tomorrow. Guess we will see how that works out. Planting stuff is a pain in the you know what haha. I havent worked in a garden since I was about 16. I think I used to remember hating it but the more I can grow the healthier and more prepared I will be. Think having a few things up and going and my chickens producing makes me more confident.

Sold two dozen eggs. Im not in it for any profit, but its nice to know I can move some…….Lord knows im going to have enough

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Looking for information on chemicals

February 16, 2017 Murby 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:

Pedro wyoming wrote: Knowledge is a powerful thing but a little knowledge is a dangerous tool and a fearful master.

pW

Oooooo…..Me likey. :thumbup:

Thanks for the links Murby

You’re welcome!
This all started several years ago.. We’re on well water and we get rust stains in the shower. One hot summer day, my wife was busy trying to remove them all.. she tried every store bought product she could find.. all claiming to remove the stains but none worked so well. She was there for two hours scrubbing her rear end off on those shower tiles.

I got to thinking that instead of attacking the problem with manual labor, the mind is mightier than the sword and there had to be a better way.. Then it hit me… In my days of designing metal plating systems, I remember that phosphoric acid turned iron oxide into iron phosphate.. Hmm.. its not like I have a 55 gallon drum of phosphoric acid laying around.. But then I remembered when I was a kid rebuilding my hot rod Z28, I used a product called “Rust Mort” that was pretty much just phosphoric acid.. Sure enough, the local hardware store had it in stock.. (even though it had a different name). Brought it home, mixed it 1 part to 4 parts water, put it in the spray bottle, and it took me less than 5 minutes (and zero elbow grease) to clean the shower spotless.. then the dishwasher.. then the toilets, kitchen sink, laundry sink.. There was barely a rusty water stain left in the house by the time I was done.

And all for a $3 bottle of the stuff that I didn’t even use half of.

Knowing what chemicals are in different consumer products can go a long way.. Even better is knowing how to react these products together to make new chemicals..

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Billionares Preparing For The End Of The World

February 16, 2017 daaswampman 0

If you have enough money, there are private gold accounts that operate much like Bitcoin or Vise, except all the transactions are in gold. If you have money then you need to diversify it beyond banks. Commodities, land, PM’s, art, and antiquities, are just a few areas that have performed well for centuries.

I know and work with people who have tens of millions to protect and pass on. The top one or two percent are not hurting and that means millions of people are doing well. They need people to help them find their toys and that can have its rewards. Swamp

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Billionares Preparing For The End Of The World

February 16, 2017 Photon Guy 0
Blondie wrote:

sage price wrote:Think about holding PM’s, cash, bitcoin, Swiss bank account? How do you get to it? How do you exchange it all when the grid fails? These guys are used to wire transfers and paper money handled for them by others.

How about common stocks? I suppose they can sometimes be a good investment.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Billionares Preparing For The End Of The World

February 16, 2017 Blondie 0
sageprice wrote:
TEOTWAWKI — BILLIONS = NOTHING. You are just another untrained slob who survived to die another day. This is why you prep so you can survive with out money.

Interesting thought. If you have this kind of $$ to stash, how do you hold it so it’s liquid? Are you smart enough not to trust Goldman Sachs with your holdings?

Think about holding PM’s, cash, bitcoin, Swiss bank account? How do you get to it? How do you exchange it all when the grid fails? These guys are used to wire transfers and paper money handled for them by others.

Nice problem to have, yet still a problem.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 16, 2017 IceFire 0

Went to see the buckling today. Will be picking him up in mid-April (Seller is keeping them on the doe’s milk for 6-8 weeks, to give them a good start.) Also put in my dibs on some turkey poults, after they hatch. He also offered me all the apricots I want off of his tree…he can’t stand apricots (the tree was already there when he bought the place), so just wants to get rid of them. I’ll be happy to oblige him!

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:41 pm