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April 26, 2017 Mollypup 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

Halmic73 wrote:An EMP will damage electronics while a Solar Flare will damage the electrical distribution system (Hi th tension power lines/transformers). Either way there are enough people scattered with enough knowledge to generate localized power out of the scraps they can find.

I think the danger lies in a societal collapse whereas everything that is produced by electricity in mass becomes scarce; i.e. commercial farming, commercial water supply, gasoline powered equipment, etc.

if an enemy attacks the US with an enhanced nuke device – the concentrated destruction will be on the same level of a major solar flare – they’ll be looking to knock out protected gear buried in Cheyenne Mountain and elsewhere – it takes power to override the protection … there won’t be much left that’s unprotected or moderately protected …

Makes sense. You’re going to want to minimize risk of a counter attack. You still run the risk of anything off our shores countering, but that is what allies are for………

Everytime I look at this I just keep thinking what if NK is just the front man? The puppet. If they can manage to get in a major strike such as this and cripple us that severely, then there is nothing much to stop others from stepping up and taking out the rest of our military. Not to mention, at that stage are we really going to prioritize a counter strike when our homefront is rendered completely defenseless?

Interesting to think about strategy wise. (I love strategy games) I know I wouldn’t bother to counter strike & leave my homefront open to a 2nd stage of attack. (which is exactly what I’d be planning if I were on the opposing side)

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April 26, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Halmic73 wrote:
An EMP will damage electronics while a Solar Flare will damage the electrical distribution system (Hi th tension power lines/transformers). Either way there are enough people scattered with enough knowledge to generate localized power out of the scraps they can find.

I think the danger lies in a societal collapse whereas everything that is produced by electricity in mass becomes scarce; i.e. commercial farming, commercial water supply, gasoline powered equipment, etc.

if an enemy attacks the US with an enhanced nuke device – the concentrated destruction will be on the same level of a major solar flare – they’ll be looking to knock out protected gear buried in Cheyenne Mountain and elsewhere – it takes power to override the protection … there won’t be much left that’s unprotected or moderately protected …

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April 26, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
dmwalsh568 wrote:
Sealed up some of my moderate use electronics in expedient faraday shielding. Separately wrapped old iPhone, a portable DVD player, a Kindle that has my prepping library in it, plus my wife’s old Kindle in paper, then foil, then another layer of paper before placing into an aluminum chafing pan, then covered that with heavy duty aluminum foil. Hopefully that’s enough if NK’s weight challenged leader :crazy: really does have an EMP device….

Oh, and I sealed my last trash can faraday cage with aluminum tape, again same reason. Other cans had been sealed for months, but last one had battery packs that I charge periodically. Sealed for now, until latest crisis blows over or the balloon goes up.

Heading to market on way home to top off some canned goods I used this weekend. I want to be as buttoned up as I can be for April 25th, since it’s a military holiday for NK.

you should go to steel wool instead of the aluminum tape – having to replace it everytime you access the Faraday Cage …. in a SHTF with EMP/solar flare potential you’ll be in and out constantly ….

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April 26, 2017 Halmic73 0

An EMP will damage electronics while a Solar Flare will damage the electrical distribution system (Hi th tension power lines/transformers). Either way there are enough people scattered with enough knowledge to generate localized power out of the scraps they can find.

I think the danger lies in a societal collapse whereas everything that is produced by electricity in mass becomes scarce; i.e. commercial farming, commercial water supply, gasoline powered equipment, etc.

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April 26, 2017 IceFire 0

Picked up my bees today! Once I got them home, set the box into the hive body and left it until the end of the day, just before dark. Removed the feed can, and pulled the queen cage. Couldn’t really even see her, because so many of the bees were covering it (which means they’re “bonding” with the queen.) Remove the cork plug and stuffed it with marshmallow. Got her into the hive, uncovered the hole in the box, then closed up the hive to let the rest of the bees find their way out of their shipping box on their own. After dark, pulled the shipping box, replaced the frames I had pulled to put the box in, then put an empty hive body on top, inverted the shipping box inside the 2nd hive body to “encourage” the remaining bees to leave the shipping box. Tomorrow I’ll shake out any remaining bees.

Oh, and I did this WITHOUT putting on the “bee suit”, gloves, or hood; without using the smoker; and NO stings whatsoever! It’s official…I’m now a “beek” (beekeeper.)

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April 26, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
IceFire wrote:

daaswampman wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

Surely it will be different this time “we have Safe Zones” and we will not return to normal human behavior! I am certain the “In Betweens”, as well as women and children will be treated as they are now in all areas of conflict!

One BIG difference in those areas of conflict and here…in those areas, the average person (female or otherwise) is NOT armed, and therefore hove no good way to defend/protect themselves. Here, on the other hand, quite a few women are VERY well armed, and know darned good and well how to use those arms. Especially in my area.

the very few women and angry tough old people that can take care of themselves will skew the percentages ever soooo slightly …. it’s still the old and the young dying off …. females will die in bigger number than males – it’ll 5-6 guys or more per surviving female

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April 26, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Blondie wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote: going to be a male world ….

I’ve known many guys who can’t cook a meal nor find their way to a grocery store let alone carry a set of jumper cables.

and known plenty of women totally useless for everything – especially in bed ….

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April 25, 2017 Photon Guy 0
NJMike wrote:
Ahem.

One thing to consider is not just the % of people who have guns but likelihood of running into someone.

Per 2015 info, Pennsylvania had 27.1% ownership, New Jersey had 11.3%
http://reverbpress.com/politics/firearm … -by-state/

However, per 2010 info, people per sq. mile in PA is 283, and in NJ is 1185.
http://www.netstate.com/states/tables/s … 10_psm.htm

So, just playing with the numbers above at hand, one might estimate 77 armed people per sq. mile in PA, and in NJ the land of gun control there would be potentially 134 armed people per sq. mile.

There are perhaps more armed LEO, Federal Agency, and Military in NJ per Sq. Mile too.

That will all make for an interesting time.

Good news is any international humanitarian aid from Western Europe might arrive in NJ more quickly than the interior, depending on if Ports Newark-Elizabeth or the airports are intact. Ha ha.

Well NJ is also much more densely populated than PA. NJ is the most densely populated state in the country. Population density is something that needs to be taken into account when looking at armed people per square mile. In NJ you got lots of people that live right next to each other whereas in PA in lots of areas there’s miles and miles of wilderness with hardly anybody living there.

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April 25, 2017 NJMike 0

Ahem.

One thing to consider is not just the % of people who have guns but likelihood of running into someone.

Per 2015 info, Pennsylvania had 27.1% ownership, New Jersey had 11.3%
http://reverbpress.com/politics/firearm … -by-state/

However, per 2010 info, people per sq. mile in PA is 283, and in NJ is 1185.
http://www.netstate.com/states/tables/s … 10_psm.htm

So, just playing with the numbers above at hand, one might estimate 77 armed people per sq. mile in PA, and in NJ the land of gun control there would be potentially 134 armed people per sq. mile.

There are perhaps more armed LEO, Federal Agency, and Military in NJ per Sq. Mile too.

That will all make for an interesting time.

Good news is any international humanitarian aid from Western Europe might arrive in NJ more quickly than the interior, depending on if Ports Newark-Elizabeth or the airports are intact. Ha ha.

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April 25, 2017 Photon Guy 0
IceFire wrote:
One BIG difference in those areas of conflict and here…in those areas, the average person (female or otherwise) is NOT armed, and therefore hove no good way to defend/protect themselves. Here, on the other hand, quite a few women are VERY well armed, and know darned good and well how to use those arms. Especially in my area.

I would say that would depend on where you are in the country. In NJ you’re right about the average person not being armed. In NJ the vast majority of the people aren’t armed and don’t have any experience with weapons. In PA on the other hand you will find lots of people who have weapons and who are trained in how to use them. In Alaska just about everybody has guns and its quite common for people to wear sidearms just when the go outside in their yard. With large bears being commonplace in Alaska you would need to do that.

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April 25, 2017 Photon Guy 0
IceFire wrote:
One BIG difference in those areas of conflict and here…in those areas, the average person (female or otherwise) is NOT armed, and therefore hove no good way to defend/protect themselves. Here, on the other hand, quite a few women are VERY well armed, and know darned good and well how to use those arms. Especially in my area.

I would say that would depend on where you are in the country. In NJ you’re right about the average person not being armed. In NJ the vast majority of the people aren’t armed and don’t have any experience with weapons. In PA on the other hand you will find lots of people who have weapons and who are trained in how to use them. In Alaska just about everybody has guns and its quite common for people to wear sidearms just when the go outside in their yard. With large bears being commonplace in Alaska you would need to do that.

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April 25, 2017 IceFire 0

Started a new batch of eggs in the incubator…the previous ones had “died” when the broody decided she was done sitting BEFORE the chicks hatched (GGGGRRRRR). I’ll candle them in a few more days, to see what is developing and what is not.

Bees should be here tomorrow, so prepped the frames…I want the bees to build their own comb, so removed the plastic foundation from the frames, and made a “guide” with beeswax for them to build on. Besides, removing the plastic will make it easier for the bees to get to the queen as they come out of the box. (Easiest way to install bees…remove a few frames from the hive, put the box in place of the frames you removed; remove the “queen cage” from the box and hang it between a couple of frames, and close the hive. Make sure that the feeder is full and placed where the bees can get to it. The bees will exit the box to get to the queen. After a few days, remove the box and replace the frames after making sure all of the bees are out of the box. Then, close up the hive again.)

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April 25, 2017 IceFire 0

Started a new batch of eggs in the incubator…the previous ones had “died” when the broody decided she was done sitting BEFORE the chicks hatched (GGGGRRRRR). I’ll candle them in a few more days, to see what is developing and what is not.

Bees should be here tomorrow, so prepped the frames…I want the bees to build their own comb, so removed the plastic foundation from the frames, and made a “guide” with beeswax for them to build on. Besides, removing the plastic will make it easier for the bees to get to the queen as they come out of the box. (Easiest way to install bees…remove a few frames from the hive, put the box in place of the frames you removed; remove the “queen cage” from the box and hang it between a couple of frames, and close the hive. Make sure that the feeder is full and placed where the bees can get to it. The bees will exit the box to get to the queen. After a few days, remove the box and replace the frames after making sure all of the bees are out of the box. Then, close up the hive again.)

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April 24, 2017 sageprice 0

Get real, I spent years getting to know military technology and circuits. The technology is to shield and protect electronics. The population would suffer but not the military. Still, there is the 11 to 1 rule. It take eleven support to one combat. Watch out for slave labor around military bases.

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April 24, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Sealed up some of my moderate use electronics in expedient faraday shielding. Separately wrapped old iPhone, a portable DVD player, a Kindle that has my prepping library in it, plus my wife’s old Kindle in paper, then foil, then another layer of paper before placing into an aluminum chafing pan, then covered that with heavy duty aluminum foil. Hopefully that’s enough if NK’s weight challenged leader :crazy: really does have an EMP device….

Oh, and I sealed my last trash can faraday cage with aluminum tape, again same reason. Other cans had been sealed for months, but last one had battery packs that I charge periodically. Sealed for now, until latest crisis blows over or the balloon goes up.

Heading to market on way home to top off some canned goods I used this weekend. I want to be as buttoned up as I can be for April 25th, since it’s a military holiday for NK.

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April 24, 2017 daaswampman 0

Found a shipping container to store some of my antique tools, the ones that will be good again in the future! I doubt they will all fit, but it is a start and may clear the air of some needless noise. “You don’t need another anvil there are three in the shed! Just pull the truck around and be careful – she’s a beauty.”

Rotating and using your prep is the best learning tool I can think of!!! Once I started using and rotating my food storage, everything changed. The basics expanded along with my skills. Doing more with fewer ingredients worked and it takes up less space. Swamp

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April 24, 2017 daaswampman 0

Found a shipping container to store some of my antique tools, the ones that will be good again in the future! I doubt they will all fit, but it is a start and may clear the air of some needless noise. “You don’t need another anvil there are three in the shed! Just pull the truck around and be careful – she’s a beauty.”

Rotating and using your prep is the best learning tool I can think of!!! Once I started using and rotating my food storage, everything changed. The basics expanded along with my skills. Doing more with fewer ingredients worked and it takes up less space. Swamp

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April 23, 2017 theoutback 0

This is kind of a strange prep/ mini shtf situation, but I’m home recovering from surgery and will be out of work for at least a month, so in order to save money we are making a strong effort to rotate out food stores. We’ve got over a year’s worth stored so it won’t be a huge dent. My wife wanted to clean out/rotate the freezer foods anyways. We had rice based dinners twice, and tuna twice this week. We are going to work in some beans, maybe I’ll make some chilli. We need to make some soups too.

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April 23, 2017 daaswampman 0

We may think we are different, better, or more capable, but we’re not! I am not saying being armed will not make a difference, it will for awhile. In the long haul the results will be the same.

Look around, it is already here! Right in the good old U.S.A., there are places people don’t go, people ignore their neighbors, family means what?, millions of kids raise themselves, and a moral code is a rare thing to find! I can hide in the woods for awhile and cling to my guns, but it is coming and nothing will change that. Swamp

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April 23, 2017 IceFire 0

Husband and I got the last of the uprights and crossbeams for the first 2 stalls of the stable in place, as well as some “bracing” boards. After that, I went on a Lowe’s run for the 2x8s for the roofing stringers, as well as 20 more 2×4’s, and a 2nd “multi” ladder…it can go into numerous different configurations, so is much more useful (not to mention taller) than the 2 shorter “regular” ladders.

Today, I got a set of eneloop rechargeable batteries and charger while we were at Best Buy. The set was a storage case, charger, 2 AAA batteries, 8 AA batteries, and 2 each C and D “size spacers” where you put in an AA battery into the spacer to use it as a C or D size battery. We also got a additional 8-pack of AA eneloop pro batteries.

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April 23, 2017 IceFire 0

Husband and I got the last of the uprights and crossbeams for the first 2 stalls of the stable in place, as well as some “bracing” boards. After that, I went on a Lowe’s run for the 2x8s for the roofing stringers, as well as 20 more 2×4’s, and a 2nd “multi” ladder…it can go into numerous different configurations, so is much more useful (not to mention taller) than the 2 shorter “regular” ladders.

Today, I got a set of eneloop rechargeable batteries and charger while we were at Best Buy. The set was a storage case, charger, 2 AAA batteries, 8 AA batteries, and 2 each C and D “size spacers” where you put in an AA battery into the spacer to use it as a C or D size battery. We also got a additional 8-pack of AA eneloop pro batteries.

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April 23, 2017 IceFire 0
daaswampman wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

Surely it will be different this time “we have Safe Zones” and we will not return to normal human behavior! I am certain the “In Betweens”, as well as women and children will be treated as they are now in all areas of conflict!

One BIG difference in those areas of conflict and here…in those areas, the average person (female or otherwise) is NOT armed, and therefore hove no good way to defend/protect themselves. Here, on the other hand, quite a few women are VERY well armed, and know darned good and well how to use those arms. Especially in my area.

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April 23, 2017 daaswampman 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

daaswampman wrote:It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

that’s traditionally the old and the young – the absolute crap in between prey on both and help with their demise …. the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

Surely it will be different this time “we have Safe Zones” and we will not return to normal human behavior! I am certain the “In Betweens”, as well as women and children will be treated as they are now in all areas of conflict!

I find it interesting that we just got rid of a president that was all about women’s and whatever they are rights, while bringing in the Muslims to fix those problems! He was either dumb as all hell or slicker than snot! Swamp

“Arbeit macht frei” is a German phrase meaning “work sets you free”. The slogan is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other labor camps.

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April 23, 2017 daaswampman 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

daaswampman wrote:It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

that’s traditionally the old and the young – the absolute crap in between prey on both and help with their demise …. the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

Surely it will be different this time “we have Safe Zones” and we will not return to normal human behavior! I am certain the “In Betweens”, as well as women and children will be treated as they are now in all areas of conflict!

I find it interesting that we just got rid of a president that was all about women’s and whatever they are rights, while bringing in the Muslims to fix those problems! He was either dumb as all hell or slicker than snot! Swamp

“Arbeit macht frei” is a German phrase meaning “work sets you free”. The slogan is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other labor camps.

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April 22, 2017 rickdun 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
going to be a male world ..

Illini, that’s what they call sexist. Hillbilly Crouton, Elisabeth Poke-A-Hontice Warren, Nancy pooh pooh Policie will be offended by your comments, but I love it.

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April 22, 2017 rickdun 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
going to be a male world ..

Illini, that’s what they call sexist. Hillbilly Crouton, Elisabeth Poke-A-Hontice Warren, Nancy pooh pooh Policie will be offended by your comments, but I love it.

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April 22, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
daaswampman wrote:
It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

that’s traditionally the old and the young – the absolute crap in between prey on both and help with their demise …. the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

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April 22, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
daaswampman wrote:
It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

that’s traditionally the old and the young – the absolute crap in between prey on both and help with their demise …. the lesser gender of the “in betweens” will suffer more also – going to be a male world ….

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April 22, 2017 daaswampman 0

It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

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April 22, 2017 daaswampman 0

It may not be all or none! The truth – nobody knows what will happen following an EMP Event! There are too many variables to know the exact outcome, except in cheap fiction or as seen on TV. A month or two without power would sure clean out the deadwood (helpless and sickly) and mankind might be better off!

Always An Optimist – Swamp

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April 22, 2017 3ADScout 0
mom2grandma wrote:
sometimes it is good to live close to an Amish Community They are ready for an EMP

There is some truth to this but they are also dependent upon much of the fragile just in time delieverly systems that keep our society going. They have skills that will help them adapt better than a millennial attending Berkeley but. Ever see an Amish saw mill? For the most part they use generators of some other type of small engine. No gas no saw mill. Their strong belief in God and community will be in their favor but what happens when Bill Joe Jim Bob from down the street realizes just what an Anabaptist is and their beliefs? Won’t go good for them unless they have some “Sheep dogs” around, which I think they will.

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April 22, 2017 3ADScout 0
mom2grandma wrote:
sometimes it is good to live close to an Amish Community They are ready for an EMP

There is some truth to this but they are also dependent upon much of the fragile just in time delieverly systems that keep our society going. They have skills that will help them adapt better than a millennial attending Berkeley but. Ever see an Amish saw mill? For the most part they use generators of some other type of small engine. No gas no saw mill. Their strong belief in God and community will be in their favor but what happens when Bill Joe Jim Bob from down the street realizes just what an Anabaptist is and their beliefs? Won’t go good for them unless they have some “Sheep dogs” around, which I think they will.

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April 22, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

The Amish folks around here seems to be a tight knit group and I don’t think it would take very long to learn to leave them alone… I have noticed lately that there is a lot of Amish folks going to the grocery store here. I also noticed that they were buying milk , butter and eggs some of them might not be as ready for shtf as we think…

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April 22, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

The Amish folks around here seems to be a tight knit group and I don’t think it would take very long to learn to leave them alone… I have noticed lately that there is a lot of Amish folks going to the grocery store here. I also noticed that they were buying milk , butter and eggs some of them might not be as ready for shtf as we think…

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April 22, 2017 angie_nrs 0
mom2grandma wrote:
sometimes it is good to live close to an Amish Community They are ready for an EMP

Are they? They might be able to fend for themselves as far as everyday living goes……but what about the takers that will be thinking the same thing you are? Sadly, they will appear to be an obvious target for the unprepared. I doubt they will be able to handle the hoards of folks magically showing up at their door. The longer an outage is, the more desperate those hoards will become.

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April 22, 2017 angie_nrs 0
mom2grandma wrote:
sometimes it is good to live close to an Amish Community They are ready for an EMP

Are they? They might be able to fend for themselves as far as everyday living goes……but what about the takers that will be thinking the same thing you are? Sadly, they will appear to be an obvious target for the unprepared. I doubt they will be able to handle the hoards of folks magically showing up at their door. The longer an outage is, the more desperate those hoards will become.

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April 22, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
Photon Guy wrote:

oldasrocks wrote:I think you would be amazed on what some of old farts could do if necessary. When the dust settled we’d have things rebuilt in a hurry.

Like the man said- do these things instead of just reading about them. How many people would actually have the experience If an EMP to grow a garden or milk a cow or butcher? Food would be the primary problem. The building would still be here.

Raid the museums for old steam engines. Easy to run a saw mill with steam power.

Im sure I could learn quite a bit from you. I would sure like to take a page out of your book. One old world skill I’ve been wanting to learn is blacksmithing and metal forging which you don’t find that much today since most metal products are factory made but would be very useful in a situation where the factories no longer work. You only really see it being done with horse shoes now days, and with a few other things.

We have a village smithy here. He can forge anything. The man works seven days a week just to keep up.
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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: EMP strikes

April 22, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
Photon Guy wrote:

oldasrocks wrote:I think you would be amazed on what some of old farts could do if necessary. When the dust settled we’d have things rebuilt in a hurry.

Like the man said- do these things instead of just reading about them. How many people would actually have the experience If an EMP to grow a garden or milk a cow or butcher? Food would be the primary problem. The building would still be here.

Raid the museums for old steam engines. Easy to run a saw mill with steam power.

Im sure I could learn quite a bit from you. I would sure like to take a page out of your book. One old world skill I’ve been wanting to learn is blacksmithing and metal forging which you don’t find that much today since most metal products are factory made but would be very useful in a situation where the factories no longer work. You only really see it being done with horse shoes now days, and with a few other things.

We have a village smithy here. He can forge anything. The man works seven days a week just to keep up.
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Statistics: Posted by rebnavy1862 — Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:35 pm