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General Food Topics • Re: Canned Ham shelf life

June 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
oldasrocks wrote:
I have 15 yr old canned ham. It still tastes like Spam regardless of age. WIsh I could find some olf K rations. We ate a couple cases of them in the 70’s from WW@ and they were still good. Cigs were a bit stale though.

you guys didn’t eat enough of them – the kids today are still working off the WW2 stockpile ….

interesting – read the other day that a rare Jewish exoneration to creed was granted to allow eating Spam for the post-war Jewish survivors – it was the only thing immediately available to feed them – some still choose not to eat it ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:37 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: Canned Ham shelf life

June 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
oldasrocks wrote:
I have 15 yr old canned ham. It still tastes like Spam regardless of age. WIsh I could find some olf K rations. We ate a couple cases of them in the 70’s from WW@ and they were still good. Cigs were a bit stale though.

you guys didn’t eat enough of them – the kids today are still working off the WW2 stockpile ….

interesting – read the other day that a rare Jewish exoneration to creed was granted to allow eating Spam for the post-war Jewish survivors – it was the only thing immediately available to feed them – some still choose not to eat it ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:37 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: Canned Ham shelf life

June 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

meat is going to be REALLY particular about the storage temp – more than almost any other canned goods …. it’s actually one of the rare canned goods that can be frozen – what little packing fluid there is won’t blow the seams apart …. cooler is better – but you can eazily get 10yrs storage at steady room temps – if you can stay away from the convenient pull tab cans all the better ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:43 pm


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June 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

meat is going to be REALLY particular about the storage temp – more than almost any other canned goods …. it’s actually one of the rare canned goods that can be frozen – what little packing fluid there is won’t blow the seams apart …. cooler is better – but you can eazily get 10yrs storage at steady room temps – if you can stay away from the convenient pull tab cans all the better ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:43 pm


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June 14, 2017 Gunns 0

The only canned meat I have used is Tuna. I had some a couple years past the date and never noticed any difference. Actually I was eating them and did not know they expired.

Les eats 50 year old canned chicken.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl … 693520.stm

I remember something about a discovery up north of canned venison over 100 years old. It was tested and found to still be edible.

I also remember my Aunt opening jarred chicken on her farm that was over a decade old. It was great.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:55 am


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General Food Topics • Canned Ham shelf life

June 14, 2017 broden 0

so i have some canned hams that are a 3 years old.. one was bad but the seal had given
which i think was actually my fault, i suspect i popped it while moving stuff around recently

it was the kind with the peel off lid.. kinda like a soda can .. and the tab was raised .. i believe i caught it on another can or something else.. even though it was not obviously open till i fully opened it.. the seal had just barely given in one spot on the side,, which you could see after opening cause that spot was slightly green under the seal… the ham was yellow and smelled obviously long beyond gone

that aside

i was wondering what the real world shelf life is on these
what is the oldest any of you have ever popped open and been good to go?

Statistics: Posted by broden — Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:14 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 kappydell 0

I agree, and always do prep hard. However I have been seeing glimmers of hope lately – an increasing disaffection for shenanigans and a surreptitious rolling of the eyes when Ms. You-Know-Who starts her litany of ‘those who done me wrong’. I think people in general are starting to see through the façade. I just hope it is soon enough and that they will take action to break this cycle of increasing lawlessness we seem to be getting into. We still are a nation of laws – not whims – LAWS – which is largely responsible for our relative stability and draws immigrants looking for a peaceful and productive life.

Yet a major event is possible. The courts keep affirming more and more outrageous actions as ‘freedom of speech’ and that does nothing to discourage destructive tantrums that become more and more ‘extreme’ to get our attention. The cycle needs to be broken – I for one do not want to hear a frightened whine of “I didn’t MEAN to….” from someone who has triggered a disaster while having a hissy fit.

The dems have been hijacked by ‘hard’ socialists who do not mind getting down & dirty & illegal & create anarchy to take over. Inciting bloodshed and terroristic acts in their ‘useful idiots’ is a favored technique for keeping their own hands (seemingly) clean. Too bad they purge those ‘useful idiots’ when they change regimes; their idiots do not seem to notice that part!)

I just keep on prepping – hard – and staying informed so I can discern BS from truth in life, and at the ballot box.

Statistics: Posted by kappydell — Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:24 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 kappydell 0

I agree, and always do prep hard. However I have been seeing glimmers of hope lately – an increasing disaffection for shenanigans and a surreptitious rolling of the eyes when Ms. You-Know-Who starts her litany of ‘those who done me wrong’. I think people in general are starting to see through the façade. I just hope it is soon enough and that they will take action to break this cycle of increasing lawlessness we seem to be getting into. We still are a nation of laws – not whims – LAWS – which is largely responsible for our relative stability and draws immigrants looking for a peaceful and productive life.

Yet a major event is possible. The courts keep affirming more and more outrageous actions as ‘freedom of speech’ and that does nothing to discourage destructive tantrums that become more and more ‘extreme’ to get our attention. The cycle needs to be broken – I for one do not want to hear a frightened whine of “I didn’t MEAN to….” from someone who has triggered a disaster while having a hissy fit.

The dems have been hijacked by ‘hard’ socialists who do not mind getting down & dirty & illegal & create anarchy to take over. Inciting bloodshed and terroristic acts in their ‘useful idiots’ is a favored technique for keeping their own hands (seemingly) clean. Too bad they purge those ‘useful idiots’ when they change regimes; their idiots do not seem to notice that part!)

I just keep on prepping – hard – and staying informed so I can discern BS from truth in life, and at the ballot box.

Statistics: Posted by kappydell — Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:24 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 kappydell 0

I agree, and always do prep hard. However I have been seeing glimmers of hope lately – an increasing disaffection for shenanigans and a surreptitious rolling of the eyes when Ms. You-Know-Who starts her litany of ‘those who done me wrong’. I think people in general are starting to see through the façade. I just hope it is soon enough and that they will take action to break this cycle of increasing lawlessness we seem to be getting into. We still are a nation of laws – not whims – LAWS – which is largely responsible for our relative stability and draws immigrants looking for a peaceful and productive life.

Yet a major event is possible. The courts keep affirming more and more outrageous actions as ‘freedom of speech’ and that does nothing to discourage destructive tantrums that become more and more ‘extreme’ to get our attention. The cycle needs to be broken – I for one do not want to hear a frightened whine of “I didn’t MEAN to….” from someone who has triggered a disaster while having a hissy fit.

The dems have been hijacked by ‘hard’ socialists who do not mind getting down & dirty & illegal & create anarchy to take over. Inciting bloodshed and terroristic acts in their ‘useful idiots’ is a favored technique for keeping their own hands (seemingly) clean. Too bad they purge those ‘useful idiots’ when they change regimes; their idiots do not seem to notice that part!)

I just keep on prepping – hard – and staying informed so I can discern BS from truth in life, and at the ballot box.

Statistics: Posted by kappydell — Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:24 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 Rod 0

The way I see it. Trump is doing everything he can to prevent any terror events. But the other side is using the courts to delay and stymie his attempts. So when something happens again, who is to Blame?
I guess we can only watch and see. :shakeno:

Statistics: Posted by Rod — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 Rod 0

The way I see it. Trump is doing everything he can to prevent any terror events. But the other side is using the courts to delay and stymie his attempts. So when something happens again, who is to Blame?
I guess we can only watch and see. :shakeno:

Statistics: Posted by Rod — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
brescon wrote:
I have not been here for about 2 yrs. I felt alot better during the last campaign and very good when trump got elected but now I’m back to worrying. I truly fear that the left will cause some kind of disaster either terror related, civil unrest or even international just to throw it at trump’s feet.

Am I the only one who feels this way ?

I’ve gone thru all my preps and am in the process of redoing it all. Going completely freeze dried or dehydrated; processed and some canned meats. I did not seal alot of prepackaged things and now I think I should get rid of them and get new and be more consciencious about sealing everything. my oldest is from 2012 but I’m testing a couple to see how they are.

anyway, I’m back at it full steam ahead !!

God bless all of us and God bless America !!

prepping should never end – subside maybe – maybe glide – but never end completely – the basics for all SHTFs should always be kept up to date and ready ….

in regard to Prez Trump’s election and the current situation …. it was almost a certainty that turbulence would follow – it happens almost everytime a Republican administration follows a DemoCrap … just like his GOP predecessors – action that’s been delayed is now being taken – prep hard to catch up – much more heavy action soon to come ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:34 am


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General Food Topics • Re: my own update

June 12, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
brescon wrote:
I have not been here for about 2 yrs. I felt alot better during the last campaign and very good when trump got elected but now I’m back to worrying. I truly fear that the left will cause some kind of disaster either terror related, civil unrest or even international just to throw it at trump’s feet.

Am I the only one who feels this way ?

I’ve gone thru all my preps and am in the process of redoing it all. Going completely freeze dried or dehydrated; processed and some canned meats. I did not seal alot of prepackaged things and now I think I should get rid of them and get new and be more consciencious about sealing everything. my oldest is from 2012 but I’m testing a couple to see how they are.

anyway, I’m back at it full steam ahead !!

God bless all of us and God bless America !!

prepping should never end – subside maybe – maybe glide – but never end completely – the basics for all SHTFs should always be kept up to date and ready ….

in regard to Prez Trump’s election and the current situation …. it was almost a certainty that turbulence would follow – it happens almost everytime a Republican administration follows a DemoCrap … just like his GOP predecessors – action that’s been delayed is now being taken – prep hard to catch up – much more heavy action soon to come ….

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:34 am


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General Food Topics • my own update

June 12, 2017 brescon 0

I have not been here for about 2 yrs. I felt alot better during the last campaign and very good when trump got elected but now I’m back to worrying. I truly fear that the left will cause some kind of disaster either terror related, civil unrest or even international just to throw it at trump’s feet.

Am I the only one who feels this way ?

I’ve gone thru all my preps and am in the process of redoing it all. Going completely freeze dried or dehydrated; processed and some canned meats. I did not seal alot of prepackaged things and now I think I should get rid of them and get new and be more consciencious about sealing everything. my oldest is from 2012 but I’m testing a couple to see how they are.

anyway, I’m back at it full steam ahead !!

God bless all of us and God bless America !!

Statistics: Posted by brescon — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:21 am


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General Food Topics • my own update

June 12, 2017 brescon 0

I have not been here for about 2 yrs. I felt alot better during the last campaign and very good when trump got elected but now I’m back to worrying. I truly fear that the left will cause some kind of disaster either terror related, civil unrest or even international just to throw it at trump’s feet.

Am I the only one who feels this way ?

I’ve gone thru all my preps and am in the process of redoing it all. Going completely freeze dried or dehydrated; processed and some canned meats. I did not seal alot of prepackaged things and now I think I should get rid of them and get new and be more consciencious about sealing everything. my oldest is from 2012 but I’m testing a couple to see how they are.

anyway, I’m back at it full steam ahead !!

God bless all of us and God bless America !!

Statistics: Posted by brescon — Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:21 am


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 broden 0
dmwalsh568 wrote:
I’ve used mylarbagsdirect.com for 1 gallon zipper top bags, but I’m not sure they have 5 gallon zipper tops.

I prefer to have a bunch of 1 gallon bags in a bucket myself, so I have less open at any given moment, but to each their own.

i might do a mix.. but my wife is asian so a 5 gallon bag of rice to her is like a half gallon bag of rice to most other people

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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 broden 0
dmwalsh568 wrote:
I’ve used mylarbagsdirect.com for 1 gallon zipper top bags, but I’m not sure they have 5 gallon zipper tops.

I prefer to have a bunch of 1 gallon bags in a bucket myself, so I have less open at any given moment, but to each their own.

i might do a mix.. but my wife is asian so a 5 gallon bag of rice to her is like a half gallon bag of rice to most other people

Statistics: Posted by broden — Mon May 15, 2017 2:49 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 broden 0
dmwalsh568 wrote:
I’ve used mylarbagsdirect.com for 1 gallon zipper top bags, but I’m not sure they have 5 gallon zipper tops.

I prefer to have a bunch of 1 gallon bags in a bucket myself, so I have less open at any given moment, but to each their own.

i might do a mix.. but my wife is asian so a 5 gallon bag of rice to her is like a half gallon bag of rice to most other people

Statistics: Posted by broden — Mon May 15, 2017 2:49 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
dmwalsh568 wrote:
I’ve used mylarbagsdirect.com for 1 gallon zipper top bags, but I’m not sure they have 5 gallon zipper tops.

I prefer to have a bunch of 1 gallon bags in a bucket myself, so I have less open at any given moment, but to each their own.

as far as I know the only zipper bags that Bags Direct has are their “stacker bags” – not listed as zipper bags but they have that option …..

http://mylarbagsdirect.com/stmyba.html

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Mon May 15, 2017 9:58 am


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 broden 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

broden wrote:been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

you do know that for long term storage they still need to heat sealed closed – the ziplock feature is only for pantry use after you crack open that food bucket (great combined with a Gamma lid) …. there’s no real value to using a mylar bag for everyday type food storage ….

http://www.discountmylarbags.com/5-gallon-mylar-bags/

http://packfreshusa.com/5-gallon-hd-ziplock-mylar-bags/

https://mylarpro.com/product/5-gallon-e … ombo-pack/

50 bag bulk buy only:

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emer … Mylar-Bags

yeah i don’t want them for long term storage .. i want them for pantry use with bucket and gamma lid.. thank you very much

Statistics: Posted by broden — Sun May 14, 2017 7:53 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 15, 2017 broden 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

broden wrote:been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

you do know that for long term storage they still need to heat sealed closed – the ziplock feature is only for pantry use after you crack open that food bucket (great combined with a Gamma lid) …. there’s no real value to using a mylar bag for everyday type food storage ….

http://www.discountmylarbags.com/5-gallon-mylar-bags/

http://packfreshusa.com/5-gallon-hd-ziplock-mylar-bags/

https://mylarpro.com/product/5-gallon-e … ombo-pack/

50 bag bulk buy only:

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emer … Mylar-Bags

yeah i don’t want them for long term storage .. i want them for pantry use with bucket and gamma lid.. thank you very much

Statistics: Posted by broden — Sun May 14, 2017 7:53 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
broden wrote:
been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

you do know that for long term storage they still need to heat sealed closed – the ziplock feature is only for pantry use after you crack open that food bucket (great combined with a Gamma lid) …. there’s no real value to using a mylar bag for everyday type food storage ….

http://www.discountmylarbags.com/5-gallon-mylar-bags/

http://packfreshusa.com/5-gallon-hd-ziplock-mylar-bags/

https://mylarpro.com/product/5-gallon-e … ombo-pack/

50 bag bulk buy only:

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emer … Mylar-Bags

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Sun May 14, 2017 3:25 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 14, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
broden wrote:
been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

you do know that for long term storage they still need to heat sealed closed – the ziplock feature is only for pantry use after you crack open that food bucket (great combined with a Gamma lid) …. there’s no real value to using a mylar bag for everyday type food storage ….

http://www.discountmylarbags.com/5-gallon-mylar-bags/

http://packfreshusa.com/5-gallon-hd-ziplock-mylar-bags/

https://mylarpro.com/product/5-gallon-e … ombo-pack/

50 bag bulk buy only:

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/emer … Mylar-Bags

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Sun May 14, 2017 3:25 pm


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General Food Topics • looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 14, 2017 broden 0

been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

Statistics: Posted by broden — Sun May 14, 2017 12:31 pm


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General Food Topics • looking for mylar ziplock bucket bags

May 14, 2017 broden 0

been a while since i’ve been here been really busy with life.. but you all know how that gets some times

anyway i am looking for good mylar 5 gallon ziplock bucket bags..

want to store some things but be able to keep them in the pantry in buckets for use as needed also .. rice sugar salt things like that.

if anyone can point me towards ones they have gotten and been happy with it would be really appreciated.

Statistics: Posted by broden — Sun May 14, 2017 12:31 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: HONEY: powder

May 12, 2017 pilgrimtr 0

as a five year bee keeper. if you are looking for honey for the benefits for allergies. you should find a bee keeper that is near you the bees will be feeding off of the same plants that effect you and you will get the benefit of the anti allergic properties of the honey. if you ever have honey crystalize do not put it in the microwave, it will kill all of the good properties of the honey.
to melt the crystals place the honey jar in a pot of warm water not above 120 degrees and it will melt the crystals. there are so many uses for honey. a table spoon each morning for allergies. put in on cuts for faster healing. Pilgrim :D

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General Food Topics • Re: HONEY: powder

May 8, 2017 ForwardPreppers 0

I think it’s just another sweetener to use where it would blend in like beverages and baked goods. We have some but from another vendor – I think it may be granules. We have honey too but due to a severe allergy in our family we will not have our own bees. We have enough stinging things flying around here in the deep south.
I could think of many uses when you want to conserve the real honey and use the powder and granules for a sweetener only. It certainly doesn’t beat the real thing but there are many substitutes for “the real thing” in our society! :D

Mrs. Forward Preppers

Statistics: Posted by ForwardPreppers — Mon May 08, 2017 5:28 pm


General Food Topics • Re: HONEY: powder

May 8, 2017 ForwardPreppers 0

I think it’s just another sweetener to use where it would blend in like beverages and baked goods. We have some but from another vendor – I think it may be granules. We have honey too but due to a severe allergy in our family we will not have our own bees. We have enough stinging things flying around here in the deep south.
I could think of many uses when you want to conserve the real honey and use the powder and granules for a sweetener only. It certainly doesn’t beat the real thing but there are many substitutes for “the real thing” in our society! :D

Mrs. Forward Preppers

Statistics: Posted by ForwardPreppers — Mon May 08, 2017 5:28 pm