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General Family Preparedness • Re: LDS food supplies

January 17, 2017 idahobeef 0

My family is Mormon and has used this stuff for years, sadly much of it you would ONLY want to eat when you were starving. I honestly consider their stuff not edible, but we do have alot of it since its cheap and lasts a long time. Just an honest opinion from someone who’s had to live on it while growing up.

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January 16, 2017 anita 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

Mollypup wrote:
No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

Molly, that is exactly what I’m hoping is the opportunity. This is “borrowed power”, and they all know it. In 4 or 8 years it goes back to the people to be interested to someone else. The ONLY way to have any lasting impact and to write you name in the record book is to do an amazing job and make things better for the people. Anybody know who Nixon’x education Sec was? or Bush 41s Commerce sec? how about Clintons Health and Humans Services? Its easy to get lost in history. I’m hoping ego will drive them to excellence.

But to be on the safe side, i’m doubling my food storage…

Okay, Clinton’s HHS secretary was Donna Shalala, and a stupider person you wouldn’t want to see. My husband and I had the opportunity to have lunch with our then-congressman in the House dining room. He was running late, because he was in a hearing about hillary’s health care plan, so he had an aid take us over to the hearing and we got to watch some of it. Shalala was testifying. We got the distinct impression she knew nothing about hillary’s health care bill–or anything else, for that matter.

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January 16, 2017 kappydell 0
daaswampman wrote:
No doubt they are wealthy by any standard, but do tell me, how many poor people have ever been in those positions? Perhaps it is just their ego or perhaps they actually want to make it better! Either way it can be no worse than the last eight years, with a childish fool running the country! Swamp

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

at least they know how money works
and Trump is not about to surround himself with syncophantic (look it up) yes-men to soothe his ego, but with folks that know how to get things done. about time!

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General Family Preparedness • Re: LDS food supplies

January 16, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
JC1 wrote:
In some canneries have a sealer that can be “checked out”. I’m not sure if you get it if you’re not a member or if your local canneries have one. If that’s something you’re really interested in, let them know, I’m sure there’s a member that would get it and help you with your canning. You can purchase the #10 cans and the oxygen absorbers, then you can whatever you want. I love the quality and the price the LDS church provides for food storage.

the entire canning deal is gone – no more training sessions – canning operations looks like it’s being centrally located to Utah ….

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January 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Mollypup wrote:
No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

Molly, that is exactly what I’m hoping is the opportunity. This is “borrowed power”, and they all know it. In 4 or 8 years it goes back to the people to be interested to someone else. The ONLY way to have any lasting impact and to write you name in the record book is to do an amazing job and make things better for the people. Anybody know who Nixon’x education Sec was? or Bush 41s Commerce sec? how about Clintons Health and Humans Services? Its easy to get lost in history. I’m hoping ego will drive them to excellence.

But to be on the safe side, i’m doubling my food storage…

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January 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Mollypup wrote:
No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

Molly, that is exactly what I’m hoping is the opportunity. This is “borrowed power”, and they all know it. In 4 or 8 years it goes back to the people to be interested to someone else. The ONLY way to have any lasting impact and to write you name in the record book is to do an amazing job and make things better for the people. Anybody know who Nixon’x education Sec was? or Bush 41s Commerce sec? how about Clintons Health and Humans Services? Its easy to get lost in history. I’m hoping ego will drive them to excellence.

But to be on the safe side, i’m doubling my food storage…

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January 15, 2017 PatrioticStabilist 0

I always remember the tax laws are made by and for the rich. That’s how they get, keep, and increase their wealth.

We were on the fringes of high income for quite a few years and the tax laws available to shelter income were unbelievable at that time even for us. And the more you made the better it got. That’s why people say oh the wealthy are paying 39% of their income in taxes, oh please, they are likely paying nothing and getting huge refunds or carryforwards. It makes a huge difference when all your w2 income is fully taxed and theirs is not.. No wonder they get and keep their wealth. Plus the tax planning people fix it so they can take advantage of all that.

I think we are in a world of hurt and even in the next 4 years will see the poor get poorer. I believe the wealthy he has selected are a power hungry bunch and will only line their pockets even more. Would be nice to believe they care about us, if that were true the people that work for them would be rich or very well off too. But once any of them get that high up its all about number 1 anyway, there may be a few exceptions but likely rare.

Right now driving through the country you see work everywhere. Companies doing great, I just don’t think the massive amounts of money they are making lets good wages and benefits trickle down to the working man.

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January 15, 2017 PatrioticStabilist 0

I always remember the tax laws are made by and for the rich. That’s how they get, keep, and increase their wealth.

We were on the fringes of high income for quite a few years and the tax laws available to shelter income were unbelievable at that time even for us. And the more you made the better it got. That’s why people say oh the wealthy are paying 39% of their income in taxes, oh please, they are likely paying nothing and getting huge refunds or carryforwards. It makes a huge difference when all your w2 income is fully taxed and theirs is not.. No wonder they get and keep their wealth. Plus the tax planning people fix it so they can take advantage of all that.

I think we are in a world of hurt and even in the next 4 years will see the poor get poorer. I believe the wealthy he has selected are a power hungry bunch and will only line their pockets even more. Would be nice to believe they care about us, if that were true the people that work for them would be rich or very well off too. But once any of them get that high up its all about number 1 anyway, there may be a few exceptions but likely rare.

Right now driving through the country you see work everywhere. Companies doing great, I just don’t think the massive amounts of money they are making lets good wages and benefits trickle down to the working man.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: LDS food supplies

January 15, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
FussyOldHen wrote:
Buy a little and eat it, see if you like it. Or if you’re allergic. Their food is not organic, and the meat substitutes (mostly soy) are GMO. Also, some people are allergic to soy. SHTF is not the time to discover this.

Where have you been Fussy?
Welcome back.
Reb

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January 15, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
FussyOldHen wrote:
Buy a little and eat it, see if you like it. Or if you’re allergic. Their food is not organic, and the meat substitutes (mostly soy) are GMO. Also, some people are allergic to soy. SHTF is not the time to discover this.

Where have you been Fussy?
Welcome back.
Reb

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January 15, 2017 FussyOldHen 0

You’ve gotten a lot of good advice here. Read it all again.

If you’ve been living in SoCal, do you REALLY think you would do well in a much colder, or hotter/far more humid place? What if you’re stuck there FOREVER?

Someone suggested renting for a year or so, and that is a good idea. Just because an area looks good to you doesn’t mean the ‘home folks’ will think the same of you. You’ll be an interloper.

If you’re looking to buy, don’t take anyone’s word for anything, including the quality of the soil. And check all of the local regulations, esp about water. If the place has a watersource, you may not be able to use it, or use the land near it for anything. Check with a local insurance agency to find out what flood zone it’s in; A is bad, B is not quite so bad, C is pretty good, X is best. There’s probably some in between, but those are the basics.

In UT, you may be driven to carrying a weapon because every clerk will ask you the same question: “What ward are you in?” I’ve driven in a good many states, and UT has my vote for having some of the stupidest people driving almost between the lines. No place could touch them until I moved here to WA.

I would advise you to stay away from Effing Stupid Central (WA State). I’ve lived in this pit of despair for 23 very long years, and I’m finally getting out this summer. At least 70% of the people here (maybe more) are the most stupid, ignorant, obnoxious, arrogant, lying, thieving AHs that I’ve ever met. The average local zombie vocabulary has about 100 words in it, certainly not more than 200 (and none of the words have more than two syllables). They can’t think, don’t even know the concept of cause and effect, can’t drive, can barely park, and can’t back up w/o hitting something. Okay, these are the business people! The rest of them are worse.

If there’s meth use in the area (practically the whole state), they will steal everything that isn’t welded down, and if they have darkness and a hacksaw, they’ll take everything that’s welded down, too. NEVER sell a car w/o immediately letting the DMV know about it. The buyers are bad about doing it themselves, plus being lousy drivers, so you don’t want the cops at your door, saying that car ran down a pregnant woman pushing a baby stroller.

You’re not going to find perfect, so you’d better do your homework so you can find something you can live with. Everything is going to be an uphill learning experience. Try to homeschool, if you can; the public school system in the U.S. is the worst of all the industrialized nation, as well as being the most expensive.

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January 15, 2017 daaswampman 0

With lots of the stuff he says he comes across as a complete idiot. For example, go to 6:38 on the video which I link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9tov6A2DI

It all depends on the audience you seek and are trying to influence! I am sure he has no interest in anyone, with practical knowledge of weapons. Seriously – does the truth have anything to do with politics or how most people vote? It takes no brains or much effort to vote, all thanks to our lovely Constitution and the many mistakes of our Founding Fathers.

The bottom line is he is a billionaire with massive financial / political influence and that squeaking noise form some gun loving peons – just doesn’t matter! Or we can all hang onto Trump’s every statements about the Second and they may even be true, but have you ever seen him hunting or even with his hands dirty? Sure his son does some canned trophy hunting, but what does that have to do with the Second?

The Second will stand, but don’t be surprised with some deals on the side. Swamp

The video, it is just another waste of time, just like a preacher – who only preaches to the choir.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 15, 2017 Mollypup 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

Are you sure these people “made” their fortunes or did they inherit them? (I have no clue, I’ve been too busy lately to be up to date on this stuff) And well, honestly? I know of quite a few stupid exceptionally wealthy people. Money doesn’t necessarily make you smart.

On the other hand, while I have a high IQ, I’m poor. So there you go. Life happens in both directions. Enough bad turns with the right timing and you suddenly find yourself flat on your arse wondering what happened.

I will say that for conservatives to be so anti big business (you know that 1 percent thing) I’m surprised you’re not nervous over this development, whether these people are “smart” or not. I can’t say that I’m too fond of the idea and as for them not being able to do worse than the past 8 yrs?? Are you serious? They could do an awful lot of damage in those positions. What about Trumps promises to tax imports? Big business imports their own goods that are made elsewhere cheaper or parts to make their goods here to keep their profits high……..now how is that going to go over with big business? (or this cabinet)

No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

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January 14, 2017 sageprice 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

What about Michael Bloomberg?

Okay, okay, there are exceptions :D
Reb

There is also corruption even among the rich. I expect the honest ones to recognize a mouth politician when the hear one.

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January 14, 2017 Photon Guy 0
daaswampman wrote:

Photon Guy wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

What about Michael Bloomberg?

He is a globalist and a Bankster. He is anything but stupid, but believe anything you wish. All slaves are equal in their eyes! Be wary of anyone wanting to save you! Swamp

With lots of the stuff he says he comes across as a complete idiot. For example, go to 6:38 on the video which I link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9tov6A2DI

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January 14, 2017 Lynda1 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
I’m not quite sure how i feel about that statistic. I mean, if you’re looking to hire successful “get her done” type people, then he has done it. (if money is your measurement). Part of me is scared that people the amassed that kind of wealth may be greedy bastards and really screw us all over for their own benefit. Then on the other hand, how do you bribe a billionaire? I mean these folks have so much that you can’t sway them with partnerships and offers. It won’t change their life. So the may be immune. Honestly a lot of people go into these positions knowing its 4 years (8 at best) and they plan own feathering their nest and lining up stuff from day one. They want to get where these people are already.

For example, what can some text book or educational computer company offer Betsy DeVos? Not a d@mn thing. She has spent millions of her own money fighting to fix education outside the system because the system wouldn’t respond. Heck, she can drop the whole charter school thing now, because she IS the system. She runs the whole shooting match. You want her support, you better come correct with something that works. What is a real-estate developer going to offer Ben Carson. That dude wants to write his name on another page in the history books. Money won’t do it.

This could be very interesting.

I can’t see why this is relevant in terms of running a country. I’d guess the average lawmaker makes more money in a year than any of us, or most of us. Whether it’s a few hundred thousand or a few million or billion it’s still not within our financial reach, is it? How is this any different than the original Founding Fathers and representatives who, by yesterday’s standards, were wealthier than your average citizen?

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January 14, 2017 JC1 0

In some canneries have a sealer that can be “checked out”. I’m not sure if you get it if you’re not a member or if your local canneries have one. If that’s something you’re really interested in, let them know, I’m sure there’s a member that would get it and help you with your canning. You can purchase the #10 cans and the oxygen absorbers, then you can whatever you want. I love the quality and the price the LDS church provides for food storage.

Statistics: Posted by JC1 — Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:36 pm


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January 14, 2017 JC1 0

Start with the necessities: food (and a way to cook it – warm food is nice on a cold day but things you don’t have to cook works too), Shelter (and a way to keep it warm), something to drink (water is always good – whiskey :thumbsup: it’s not like you are driving anywhere).

Then look at the “that would be greats”: light (stay away from candles/open flame, battery or solar lanterns are great, something you don’t have to hold), entertainment (books, games, cards, etc). A generator is always great. Depending on the things you are using a a CO2 detector could be really important (know what you can use indoors and what you can’t) :caution: . If it’s cold enough you are worried about pipes freezing, leave a faucet running, just a little to keep the water moving.

We had a storm last weekend that was expect to be so bad I received calls from my neighborhood group, the city SERT team, and the county. We made sure our propane was full (didn’t need it), and pushed snow (for ourselves and neighbors). Make sure fire hydrants are clear (3′ all the way around) a few minutes in an emergency could be….. really bad) :eek:

Enjoy the down time! :sleep:

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January 13, 2017 Northern Freeman 0

I am sure glad I don’t have to worry about all this. The snow is waist deep and it about -54 wind-chill. About to snow up here is a daily fact starting about the end of Oct. As a matter of fact we look forward to the snowy days, that means it will have to warm up. Our standard routine up here is top off the gas tank and get a couple of gallons of milk, everything else is already stocked.

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January 13, 2017 Northern Freeman 0

I am sure glad I don’t have to worry about all this. The snow is waist deep and it about -54 wind-chill. About to snow up here is a daily fact starting about the end of Oct. As a matter of fact we look forward to the snowy days, that means it will have to warm up. Our standard routine up here is top off the gas tank and get a couple of gallons of milk, everything else is already stocked.

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January 13, 2017 Northern Freeman 0

I am sure glad I don’t have to worry about all this. The snow is waist deep and it about -54 wind-chill. About to snow up here is a daily fact starting about the end of Oct. As a matter of fact we look forward to the snowy days, that means it will have to warm up. Our standard routine up here is top off the gas tank and get a couple of gallons of milk, everything else is already stocked.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Relocation tips requested…

January 13, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Ladies…Thanks again. Water rights are going to be a major factor on a purchase….I’m prefering stream location and a fight with BLM creating a pond in a perfect world.

***Dirk…..What’s “a water call”?….I get the basic meaning I think but google search provided Merriam dictionary deff as “A buglers call to water the horses”….lol…I’m not thinking that your info.

Other article clearly show its some sort of restriction but its not clear……

Thanks again all.

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January 13, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Ladies…Thanks again. Water rights are going to be a major factor on a purchase….I’m prefering stream location and a fight with BLM creating a pond in a perfect world.

***Dirk…..What’s “a water call”?….I get the basic meaning I think but google search provided Merriam dictionary deff as “A buglers call to water the horses”….lol…I’m not thinking that your info.

Other article clearly show its some sort of restriction but its not clear……

Thanks again all.

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January 13, 2017 daaswampman 0
Photon Guy wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

What about Michael Bloomberg?

He is a globalist and a Bankster. He is anything but stupid, but believe anything you wish. All slaves are equal in their eyes! Be wary of anyone wanting to save you! Swamp

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January 13, 2017 daaswampman 0
Photon Guy wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

What about Michael Bloomberg?

He is a globalist and a Bankster. He is anything but stupid, but believe anything you wish. All slaves are equal in their eyes! Be wary of anyone wanting to save you! Swamp

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January 13, 2017 ajax727 0

Wonder if they will be as broke as the Clinton’s where when they left office ?
I can only hope they can get the spending under control , and that they have enough money that they don’t have to line there own pockets .
A statement on insider trading a few years ago by polofuallinkes you know the old demo crapper said it was ok for them and her to use inside information in stock trading . Drain the swamp and send most of them to jail if Trump will be true to his words .

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January 13, 2017 ajax727 0

Wonder if they will be as broke as the Clinton’s where when they left office ?
I can only hope they can get the spending under control , and that they have enough money that they don’t have to line there own pockets .
A statement on insider trading a few years ago by polofuallinkes you know the old demo crapper said it was ok for them and her to use inside information in stock trading . Drain the swamp and send most of them to jail if Trump will be true to his words .

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January 13, 2017 Blondie 0
Photon Guy wrote:

rebnavy1862 wrote:You don’t get rich by being stupid.

You don’t get poor by being smart.

Reb

What about Michael Bloomberg?

The vast majority of the world’s wealthiest people have inherited, not earned their wealth. While DJT didn’t start out poor, he has earned the majority of his wealth.

That said, most of us average folk can vastly better our lives by being smarter about life in general and $ in particular. Two of the smartest men I’ve ever known had nothing more that a HS diploma.

Statistics: Posted by Blondie — Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:07 am