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September 26, 2017 PatrioticStabilist 0

I remember when hubs worked half way around the world for 15 years, I worried about that.
We pretty much concluded if something really serious happened he likely could never make
it back though he would try. I would have been on my own. He would have been with a group
of expats and they likely would be pretty resourceful but big limits too on what they could do.

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September 26, 2017 mizery0317 0

There’s a couple of different things you can do to make the commute more prepper efficient.
1. Place caches I understand the concrete jungle not the most ideal place but I’m sure there is something you can do. Park or something similar.
2. Plan and plan thoroughly you definitely are doing a bug out level movement, which can be done. Plan how many miles you can cover in a day/night and be realistic about it. Also look into maybe a good bike or some sort of compact device to cover more ground.
3. As far as your cross country plan, you need to start thoroughly networking my longer term bug out plan also takes me cross country so I am currently networking to make that more feasible.
-loved the post really got me thinking so thank you, also thanks everyone for the responses already posted.

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September 26, 2017 mizery0317 0

There’s a couple of different things you can do to make the commute more prepper efficient.
1. Place caches I understand the concrete jungle not the most ideal place but I’m sure there is something you can do. Park or something similar.
2. Plan and plan thoroughly you definitely are doing a bug out level movement, which can be done. Plan how many miles you can cover in a day/night and be realistic about it. Also look into maybe a good bike or some sort of compact device to cover more ground.
3. As far as your cross country plan, you need to start thoroughly networking my longer term bug out plan also takes me cross country so I am currently networking to make that more feasible.
-loved the post really got me thinking so thank you, also thanks everyone for the responses already posted.

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September 25, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

I’m curios as to why you say a firearm is obviously impossible?

Even without a CA CCW its a snap to get 32 states as non-resident….Take the class(just put a single gun on the ticket as your travel gun), pay about another $100 for the 3 states(AZ,FL,UT) and reciprocity gets you the rest of the states.

You can play with the map here to determine which states work best for you on reciprocity…https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

Just sayin’….Of course I don’t know what states you travel to back east and you may not have it there, but just making sure you looked into it as its really simple.

And as others have stated here, a small get-home bag is easy but be prepared for extra security delays at the gates…it happens with those items but no big deal.

Better than storage would be Geo-Caches….Take a trip by car one day….plan out a return route from your most often traveled to area and do the drops accordingly along the way back.

I honestly think its overkill, but who knows…..It would be a fun trip at the very least….

Good luck.

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September 25, 2017 idahobeef 0

Do you have family? Do you REALLY have to get back home of the SHTF? If not, consider sheltering in place. Grab whatever food and water you can in your local area, and HIDE. You wouldnt be safe for very long travelling on the highways and roads, especially by yourself. If you do have to get home, at least travel with a group. That dude that blogs about having survived the Yugoslav Civil War back in the 1990s always stressed moving and working in groups; on your own you are dead meat. I read this one SHTF book where the survivors took RVs and booked, travelling in somewhat comfort. They hid out for a few months out in the middle of no where and then came out once all the dying was done. Just a thought….

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September 25, 2017 North County Guy 0

I always travel with a small kit.
It fits in red shaving kit.

Mylar Blanket
rain poncho
dust masks
lightsticks
hand cranked radio/flashlight
Whistle
$$$
Handle Ham radio (always put it back on to top off the charge when I get there)
ham repeater book
Small and I mean small first aid kit.
6 Millennial food bars

When I get to my vacation/business location I grab bottles of water

My 2 cents.

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September 25, 2017 Liverchip 0

Indeed getting back home is the primary focus in any situation. Just thinking of a mini prep bag of some kind. I normally pack a medium sized suitcase s well as a second empty bag backed away in the case as secondary as I occasionally return with more crap than I left with. I am a runner, so I always have a good pair of running shoes packed at all times.

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September 25, 2017 Liverchip 0

Indeed getting back home is the primary focus in any situation. Just thinking of a mini prep bag of some kind. I normally pack a medium sized suitcase s well as a second empty bag backed away in the case as secondary as I occasionally return with more crap than I left with. I am a runner, so I always have a good pair of running shoes packed at all times.

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September 24, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

if you haven’t done the mental exercises – of building an impromptu long distance BOB from various retail sources – it’s something to run thru the system occasionally … hiking home trans-continental post serious SHTF is almost in that impossible category – it would be years and a series of seasonal sessions … but there’s always the possibility of another 911 type transportation shutdown that could strand passengers partway home – with no foreseeable resumption ….

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September 24, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

if you haven’t done the mental exercises – of building an impromptu long distance BOB from various retail sources – it’s something to run thru the system occasionally … hiking home trans-continental post serious SHTF is almost in that impossible category – it would be years and a series of seasonal sessions … but there’s always the possibility of another 911 type transportation shutdown that could strand passengers partway home – with no foreseeable resumption ….

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September 24, 2017 Rosemead 0

I like the storage Idea.

Money maybe your biggest problem, is there a scenario where the banks don’t close, ATM’s don’t stop working? Flying around with rolls of silver dollars is sure to get you strange looks (allthough quarters in a sock can make a weapon), take something that can be sold or traded. Rolex watches come to mind.

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September 24, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I’ve thought about this before when going on vacation somewhere far away. Usually I only go far away on vacation during the winter months, which would throw another wrench into the mix. I refuse to let fear rule my life so I go where I want to go, prepare as well as I can, and hope for the best. Clearly when you travel on a plane, your options are greatly reduced as far as what you can take with you.

If I ever got stranded somewhere far from home I would do what I could to make my way back home. It may take a very long time, but what else are ya gonna do? Getting home would be my ultimate goal and I would just have to improvise along the way. I could only hope my skills would get me there.

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September 24, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I’ve thought about this before when going on vacation somewhere far away. Usually I only go far away on vacation during the winter months, which would throw another wrench into the mix. I refuse to let fear rule my life so I go where I want to go, prepare as well as I can, and hope for the best. Clearly when you travel on a plane, your options are greatly reduced as far as what you can take with you.

If I ever got stranded somewhere far from home I would do what I could to make my way back home. It may take a very long time, but what else are ya gonna do? Getting home would be my ultimate goal and I would just have to improvise along the way. I could only hope my skills would get me there.

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September 24, 2017 Fullmoon 0

If the bad thing happens you will be in a world of hurt whether in L.A. or 2000 miles away in a different state. There will be no escape from L.A. so it doesn’t really matter where you are, both scenario’s are not to your advantage. If you go to the same location every time you travel you could rent a room or a small storage locker and store some supplies there. Big expense to equip a second location but if you ever need it at least you’ll have something to fall back on.

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September 24, 2017 Fullmoon 0

If the bad thing happens you will be in a world of hurt whether in L.A. or 2000 miles away in a different state. There will be no escape from L.A. so it doesn’t really matter where you are, both scenario’s are not to your advantage. If you go to the same location every time you travel you could rent a room or a small storage locker and store some supplies there. Big expense to equip a second location but if you ever need it at least you’ll have something to fall back on.

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September 24, 2017 Liverchip 0

Not really a California topic as it could affect most of us. I work in an office in the Los Angeles area and live about 90 miles away. (Yes I am considered a super-commuter.) I have my get home bag in the trunk and am semi-prepared to make it home come hell or high water.

My job also involves occasional travel to other states, including the East Coast. I have been thinking what to do if the poo poo hits the fan and I am 2000 miles away. I am thinking of a mini get-home bag that can be packed in my luggage. Obviously a firearm is not an option.

Just wondering what others opinions are on this matter. No, changing jobs is not an option.

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September 24, 2017 Liverchip 0

Not really a California topic as it could affect most of us. I work in an office in the Los Angeles area and live about 90 miles away. (Yes I am considered a super-commuter.) I have my get home bag in the trunk and am semi-prepared to make it home come hell or high water.

My job also involves occasional travel to other states, including the East Coast. I have been thinking what to do if the poo poo hits the fan and I am 2000 miles away. I am thinking of a mini get-home bag that can be packed in my luggage. Obviously a firearm is not an option.

Just wondering what others opinions are on this matter. No, changing jobs is not an option.

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September 24, 2017 Liverchip 0

Not really a California topic as it could affect most of us. I work in an office in the Los Angeles area and live about 90 miles away. (Yes I am considered a super-commuter.) I have my get home bag in the trunk and am semi-prepared to make it home come hell or high water.

My job also involves occasional travel to other states, including the East Coast. I have been thinking what to do if the poo poo hits the fan and I am 2000 miles away. I am thinking of a mini get-home bag that can be packed in my luggage. Obviously a firearm is not an option.

Just wondering what others opinions are on this matter. No, changing jobs is not an option.

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September 17, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
Cin wrote:
Good idea. I have the big Aqua-tainers from WM, but the smaller gallon ones would be a better idea at the bathroom sinks. Another good idea is the wet-wipes, I use those for camping,but I guess I need to invest in some for home use during power outages.

Gunns wrote:This is good information thanks folks.

I have two take aways.

1 – Get water dispensers by each sink. Good idea.

I’m starting to sound like a damn sales rep here since I think this is at least the 5th post I have mentioned these, but I swear to you all I have no connection with the company….lol.

2 words—–WATER BRICKS!

Worth their weight in gold….interlocking/stackable….. 3-1/2 gallons/easy to carry/refill…Spickets can be transferred from one to another.

With the disclaimer that I have not had to be tested yet, from the sounds of things here, this will be my best investment to date.

Thank you all so much for relating your experiences….So happy ya’ll are safe. :thumbup:

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September 17, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
Cin wrote:
Good idea. I have the big Aqua-tainers from WM, but the smaller gallon ones would be a better idea at the bathroom sinks. Another good idea is the wet-wipes, I use those for camping,but I guess I need to invest in some for home use during power outages.

Gunns wrote:This is good information thanks folks.

I have two take aways.

1 – Get water dispensers by each sink. Good idea.

I’m starting to sound like a damn sales rep here since I think this is at least the 5th post I have mentioned these, but I swear to you all I have no connection with the company….lol.

2 words—–WATER BRICKS!

Worth their weight in gold….interlocking/stackable….. 3-1/2 gallons/easy to carry/refill…Spickets can be transferred from one to another.

With the disclaimer that I have not had to be tested yet, from the sounds of things here, this will be my best investment to date.

Thank you all so much for relating your experiences….So happy ya’ll are safe. :thumbup:

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September 17, 2017 conjomen 0

Sorry to be so late responding! And I’m also just here to drop a quick line to let everyone know I didn’t forget my promise to write up the pros! And I’m throwing in the cons…and asking for help! We are working our tails off down here just trying to get everyone safe and comfortable. My church is a relief center and we don’t have enough volunteers. Dawn to dusk 6 days a week. I feel like I’m on a mission!
So my food/cooking preps worked absolutely flawless. I follow that old school KISS method…as in Keep It Simple Stupid…bbq grill, camp stove/portable propane stove and sun oven. Stored food was everything we actually liked so no need to go fight the crowd at the grocery stores. I did go buy fresh fruit and vegetables because we really like them. On a regular day I have 6 months of pantry and frozen food and over a year of LTS on hand. Weather channel said a hurricane was coming we started eating meat and veggies from the fridge first then the freezer. After the freezer completely thawed we still had 24 hours of refrigerator temps and I was able to can everything before it was even close to spoiling. No explanation needed here.
Lighting was a combination of homemade candles,flashlights, lanterns, store bought candles and solar lights. Also no need for explanation unless some very new prepper wants me to. I’ll be glad to give further information via PM or here. LMK.
H2O: after our week without water last year I figured a few things out. Tip from someone on APN worked perfectly! I started buying those laundry soap bottles with the pour spout and saving them when they were empty. When the storm was coming I pulled them out and filled em up. 1 went on the side of each sink in the house. The spout was great to wash our hands after using the restroom. It was also perfect to wash dishes in the kitchen and clothes in the laundry room sink. Drinking water was the same as we always use cause our city water is garbage. Combination of my big berkey if I’m using faucet/@ home and store bought bottled. We have a camp shower that went outside in the sun to warm up and we used our regular shower as a hook. Not to terrible. I like my showers unusually hot because I have stupid arthritis and I was comfortable…the bathtub got filled up before the storm to flush with. Although we were only without water for a couple of days so we didn’t run out. I have giant fixed h2o storage so we just filled the smaller containers from the big ones…not to tough.
Energy/power…I don’t have a generator here in town. We have a BOL out in the sticks with solar/wind we are working on so no extra funds to put in a generator here. I do have a couple of crank/solar chargers for our cell phones,radios and tablets. Also a pretty good solar charger for batteries.They worked pretty good! It was slower than wall chargers but hey it worked! Pretty happy with them! Thanks AMAZON for the cheap solar chargers!
Now the big disappointment! Communication! We had a couple of battery opperated am/fm radios. While the storm was raging we got 0/zero reception. As in nada! After the storm was over we were able to get a few stations in the first day and then more and more until we were back to normal. Our NOAA weather radio was garbage. Absolute trash. Nothing but static. You know how that stupid thing goes off everytime there’s a thunderstorm? Ya cat 4 hurricane and we got nothing! No joke folks…not even the warning chime. I’ve got to invest in some better equipment for news.
Cell phones got text messages only during the storm and spoty service for the first couple of days afterwards. Our very cheap walkie talkies worked fine the whole time and believe me we treated this like a dry run for the big one. So equipment was being tested constantly. The more expensive walkie talkies did good as well. No problems noted with either.
It was a true learning experience. I didn’t realize I would want constant news! I wanted the play by play I usually ignore in normal circumstances. I had no idea I would want news like that! And we were safe and knew what was going on. I can’t imagine how hard it would be if we didn’t know what was going on. I used to read fictional stories that said stuff like that and I never paid it any mind…let me tell y’all I’m open to all advice from everyone about radios/communication!
All said and done we made it through relatively well. Some roof damage and a bunch(read 12 very old) downed trees. My husband and our family made quick work of them with a couple chainsaws and just plain muscle power. I still have 1 uprooted tree that I’m waiting on the insurance to take care of cause it’s tangled up in cables/lines.
I have to say while I wouldn’t wish this on anyone I’m glad to have been through it. I think there is always something we can improve on and there’s no way to know what unless something like this happens. It was an eye opener for sure! Our family was safe and pretty comfortable(except the mosquitos they’re the size of helicopters) through the storm and afterwards. I ended up cooking for the whole neighborhood for a couple of days cause a bunch of them had no way to cook. And it was easier to cook the meat and veggies out of their freezer than have to can them for them.We found a couple of people who literally had no supplies(I’m a Christian so I’m not allowed to say what I was thinking about them) and we were able to give them a hot meal and enough groceries to get by for a few days. Times like these bring out the best in some people and it warms my heart to see. I think sometimes these tough times can be a blessing. I’ve met and talked to people I would have never crossed paths with before. I’ve prayed with and held the hand of some of the toughest looking bikers you’ll ever meet… I also have prayed with and been huged by the sweetest little old ladies… I get to brag a little bit and say I was part of the very first relief center in Rockport… I got to witness people come together and work their tails off and not complain…actually enjoy it! I know it is going to take us years to rebuild and clean up but there’s something about everyone coming together to help that I can’t explain. I feel blessed to have been able to help in some small way. I feel blessed to have been able to witness it. I thank God that we were safe and comfortable and Pray to Him for the souls of those we lost and for the swift healing and comfort of the ones who are still here and hurting.
Thanks APN! For listening to my long winded self!

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September 17, 2017 Floridaclipper 0

Another survivor still in survival mode in north central FL

Locally gas was tough to come by a couple of days before the storm. Non ethanol was the first to go. The traffic getting out of the area was terrible. If one didn’t allow days they would be stuck on the road in the parking lot of death. Many cars couldn’t make it due to the lack of fuel. They ended up in shelters. The shelves were cleared in the stores. Many were complaining that the stores and gas stations should have been better prepared. I held my tongue. I rode it out at home. I’m 30 miles inland from the west coast. I didn’t get out of work until 11:30 PM on Saturday night so leaving wasn’t really an option. I did have safe options to ride it out so I wasn’t too worried.

I did all the usual prep securing outdoor items, staging items I would need for the expected power outage, double checking the generator etc. I did multiple loads of laundry, cleaned the house, and all the other things that are more difficult to do without power/water. All phone service land line and cell went out early in the day. As I was watching the the storm crawl up the west coast and turn inland pointing in my direction the power went out. It’s still out. From there I stayed informed through HAM radio. I did manage to get a few hours sleep. I rode it out solo just me and my kitties so I didn’t have anyone to trade off with to keep watch. The next morning it was loosing steam. I managed to make it out and do a damage assessment for myself and the neighborhood to report in. Nothing too serious in my neighborhood, We were lucky. When I went to report in I was unable to make contact using my base, mobile, or HT. Turns out the repeater suffered some damage. Fortunately I knew the other frequencies that were being monitored.

After the storm the generator was working for everything but the well. I had the power line replaced a couple months ago and they forgot to tie it in to the transfer panel. The past 2 days he’s promised to come out and fix that. No worries. I have plenty stored and it rained yesterday so I actually have more water stored now than when the storm started. I used up almost everything in the refrigerator before the storm. It will not hold temp for any length of time without power. The freezers however are just fine. My biggest challenge is getting the yard clean. My yard equipment is electric (I have trouble getting the gas ones started). I’ve been dragging everything to the curb. When the power comes back I can take care of the twigs and leaves. I did as much raking as I could but I tore my hands up even with gloves. With the heat and humidity it wasn’t surprising to see an infection starting. Medihoney took care of that. I do a little at a time to avoid heat exhaustion. I passed out earlier this summer from it. Being solo I have to be more careful.

Yesterday fuel was readily available. The shelves in the stores are still thin. Comments such as “did they forget to place an order” could be heard. I did cheat today and went to a salon to get my hair washed. I have church tomorrow and it’s a special occasion. I had planned a trip to a church in Hollywood but Irma changed my plans. The power company says power will be restored by midnight Sunday. I’m good with my set up for quite a while if they miss their deadline. I use oil lamps for light or a camp light called Seige by streamlight. It will light up a room and is easy on batteries. O2 Cool is my fan of choice. The generator come in at night to prevent it from getting stolen. There are bright spots of people helping each other but there is a lot of complaining as well. So far no security issues in my area.

Going forward Gas powered tools would have been helpful, heavier gloves, more gas cans, and possible supplies for any repairs are the only things I can think of to add. More lights and fans would be a nice convenience. When moving things from place to place things would get out of place/misplaced. I need to reinforce the garage door.

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September 17, 2017 daaswampman 0
Genevieve wrote:
Not being a smart azz here but why didn’t people set containers outside when it was raining to get water for flushing? Its only common sense.
I scratch my head every time I see where someone didn’t have any way to flush but it was raining outside…….what?…..seriously?

I live in an area that gets its share of severe storms. Unless you make plans, it may not be easy to collect a significant amount of water during a storm, nor would it be a good idea to be outside unless it is only raining.

On the other hand, it is very easy and cheap to set up a system for rain catchment. Something as small a a garden shed can fill a barrel in a few minutes. Even urban folks could set up quick systems with items on hand!

Thank You for bringing up a good point! Swamp

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September 16, 2017 Cin 0

Good idea. I have the big Aqua-tainers from WM, but the smaller gallon ones would be a better idea at the bathroom sinks. Another good idea is the wet-wipes, I use those for camping,but I guess I need to invest in some for home use during power outages.

Gunns wrote:
This is good information thanks folks.

I have two take aways.

1 – Get water dispensers by each sink. Good idea.

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September 15, 2017 ForwardPreppers 0

Gunns – what is your best estimate on how long you could go on your LP should the SHTF?
Our friends down the way we’re going to get a dedicated tank just for their generator.

In regards to the question about putting out buckets to catch storm rain – concern that they would blow away maybe. We left one bucket out because I always do to water my plants on my front porch.

On a funny note, as I stated, it doesn’t take long to form a routine and I was still going into the bathroom and pantry yesterday with no lights! :p

Mrs FP

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September 15, 2017 Gunns 0

This is good information thanks folks.

I have two take aways.

1 – Get water dispensers by each sink. Good idea.
2 – Rain catchment. That is still high on my list.

I got the power thing fixed. Whole house gennie with 2 1000 gallon LP tanks buried. Stove and water heater use LP too. Have a way to hook the well back into the house so with the gennie and well I should be set there. Of course I have fall back plans like 2 portable gennies with gas safely stored.

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