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Food & Water • Re: Powdered Milk…Your Favorite Brand?

October 1, 2017 jean11 0

Augason Farms has a #10 can of Swiss Whey D’Lite – milk flavored Whey Protein Drink that tastes great! It tastes just like milk. There is 83 servings per can. Hubby is lactose intolerant and this milk is perfect for him. We went through the first can and liked it so well that we ordered another 12 cans which are put away in our stash.

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Food & Water • hot water sprinkling composite flooring

August 14, 2017 qizhen0809 0

solid wood composite flooring as far as possible to avoid contact with water for a long time, especially can not contact with hot water, therefore, once there is hot water sprinkling on the solid wood composite floor, should promptly dry, to prevent the emergence of dry problems. 4, the local board wood to heat the floor accidentally contaminated stains should be removed promptly, if there is oil, use cloth dipped in warm water with a small amount of detergent scrub, if the drug or pigment, must be removed in the dirt does not penetrate the wood surface before.

In short, regular cleaning work is a solid foundation for solid wood flooring maintenance work, only in this way can better play the role of geothermal floor, as well as extend its service life. Clean maintenance coup to heat the floor of the small house, temporarily is here to share, I hope to help you Home Furnishing maintenance for more geothermal floor knowledge,

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

May 17, 2017 ReadyMom 0
IceFire wrote:
Hard wheat has a higher protein content than soft wheat and rises better, which is why it is preferred for bread. “All-Purpose” flour is a combination of hard and soft wheats. In order to make all-purpose or soft wheat more suitable for making bread, you can add “Vital Wheat Gluten” to boost the protein content and allow it to rise better.

Didn’t know what Vital Wheat Gluten was, so looked it up: -k

How Long Will Vital Wheat Gluten Last?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/34071 … uten-last/

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

May 17, 2017 ReadyMom 0
IceFire wrote:
Hard wheat has a higher protein content than soft wheat and rises better, which is why it is preferred for bread. “All-Purpose” flour is a combination of hard and soft wheats. In order to make all-purpose or soft wheat more suitable for making bread, you can add “Vital Wheat Gluten” to boost the protein content and allow it to rise better.

Didn’t know what Vital Wheat Gluten was, so looked it up: -k

How Long Will Vital Wheat Gluten Last?
http://www.livestrong.com/article/34071 … uten-last/

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Food & Water • Re: Storing dry dog food

May 1, 2017 Cin 0

We tried storing dry dog food and it went rancid in a few months. We now store canned dog food.

I also made homemade dog food for 12 years. One of our dogs had a gluten intolerance and I couldn’t afford the expensive food. I simply looked at the ingredients in the pet store, and then went home, read up on it, and created my own concoction.

2 cups uncooked rice
4 cups water
5 pounds of meat (I use the chub at Walmart 70/30 fat ratio)
2 cups frozen mixed vegetables

Cook the rice in the water. Brown the meat, do not drain. Add the cooked rice and the frozen veggies to the meat and cook until the veggies are done. Portion out in plastic sandwich containers (about 12 ounces each). Keep in fridge, freeze the rest. You can also can it in pint jars, but do NOT overfill the jars.

You can add other stuff, too – depends on what your dog likes. Not sure about canning the other stuff, I understand canning pumpkin is frowned upon.

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Food & Water • Re: Storing dry dog food

May 1, 2017 MoosePath 0
IceFire wrote:
Dry dog and cat foods tend to start going rancid after a couple of months, because of the oils.
I’ve quit using commercial dog foods, since they make one of my dogs VERY sick–she gets pancreatitis. Now, I make my own dog food once a week (I keep it in the refrigerator), so all I need to store is rice (50 pound bag at Costco is just a bit over $14, and it lasts for months) beef kidney, canned pumpkin, and mixed vegetables (all things I store anyway, except for the kidneys). The eggs I put in the dog food I get from my own chickens, so always have a good supply.

The dogs LOVE it, there are no unpronounceable ingredients, artificial colors, preservatives, etc., and best of all, the dogs haven’t been sick ONCE since I’ve been making their fool. Not only that, but it costs less that the commercial dog food.

We also had a black lab that was prone to pancreatitis. Most of the time when she was fine we fed her a good American made brand of dog food with no grain like Taste of the Wild but when it would flare up we would boil very lean hamburger and mix it with the white rice and that worked well for her and she loved it. Another thing she really liked and it was very good for her was boiled small chunks of sweet potatoes. In a pinch she would also eat then out of the can from the grocery store after we drained off the liquid.

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Food & Water • Re: Storing dry dog food

April 30, 2017 Stahlrosen 0

You will get about a year from production if stored properly on dry dog food. Beyond that you should have enough time to raise / hunt something to feed them. We can only feed the retired dogs raw, but if SHTF we won’t be working our dogs anyway, at least not in their current capacity, so feeding them long term shouldn’t be a problem. We raise rabbits and chickens and can hunt / fish for them. You can also dehydrate for long term storage various meats, and then add to it to feed them. We only store about 3 mo. dry dog food at a time because that’s all we have room for, about 400lbs.
The food we get rarely has a year exp. date on it, and we order it from the company, so likely because of the very high fat content, like Icefire mentioned, it would go rancid before then. We have never had the space to store it longer than we do.

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Food & Water • Re: Storing dry dog food

April 30, 2017 IceFire 0

Dry dog and cat foods tend to start going rancid after a couple of months, because of the oils.
I’ve quit using commercial dog foods, since they make one of my dogs VERY sick–she gets pancreatitis. Now, I make my own dog food once a week (I keep it in the refrigerator), so all I need to store is rice (50 pound bag at Costco is just a bit over $14, and it lasts for months) beef kidney, canned pumpkin, and mixed vegetables (all things I store anyway, except for the kidneys). The eggs I put in the dog food I get from my own chickens, so always have a good supply.

The dogs LOVE it, there are no unpronounceable ingredients, artificial colors, preservatives, etc., and best of all, the dogs haven’t been sick ONCE since I’ve been making their fool. Not only that, but it costs less that the commercial dog food.

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Food & Water • Re: Storing dry dog food

April 30, 2017 MoosePath 0

We used to get Taste of the Wild dry dog food and I once contacted the company here in the US and asked them about storage life of their food and basically they claim a year from the date on the back if it is kept in a cool dry place (no special packing). I don’t think you will get much beyond that, at least as far as I have been able to find. Like you said, the oil in the food would be the limiting factor. It would probably go rancid and I don’t think short of freezing it you won’t get much longer then that. I would love to hear if anyone here has a good recipe for storing dog food myself.

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Food & Water • Storing dry dog food

April 29, 2017 david80123 0

I am starting to work my preps again and have come up against, How to store dry dog food long term. I am thinking mylar bags with oxygen absorbers, then stack the bags in a resealable plastic barrel. I am wondering how long that would stay usable, giver all the oil in the food. Anyone got some ideas on the matter. How do you prep for the pups?

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Food & Water • Re: Ghee???

April 25, 2017 ReadyMom 0

I’ve read that Ghee can still go rancid, because it’s an oil. Only has a couple of years for shelf life. Here’s two contradictory links. I don’t know which direction to go regarding storing ghee. -k

Ghee Buyer’s Guide
http://www.pureindianfoods.com/ghee-buy … -a/283.htm

Shelf Life: This information applies to all of our ghee products, which includes ghee, cultured ghee, coconut ghee, spiced ghee, and Coffee++. The shelf life of unopened jar is one year, with or without refrigeration.

Ghee (“clarified butter”) for Long-Term Storage
http://doablesurvival.blogspot.com/2012 … -term.html

Ok, this is where it gets sticky. I’d love to tell you the shelf-life of ghee, but there is a lot of conflicting information out there! There are “prepper” type sites that sell canned ghee and say it has a shelf-life of 20-30 years. I read in other places that it has a 10-15 year shelf-life and still in other places that it is good “indefinitely” and “nonperishable”. (I’ve seen recipes for canning regular butter that is supposed to be good for 2-3 years, but the government warns against this as not being safe; but, if there are people out there canning regular butter for 2-3 years then, certainly, properly prepared and stored ghee should be good for AT LEAST that long.) I’m no expert and you need to use your own discretion on this; but after all the reading I’ve done on it, (and I did a lot) I’m confident it should be good (properly) canned and stored for at least a few years, possibly decades. Someone on a message board claimed that 1,000-year-old ghee was found in a grave and was still good. Well, I don’t know about that. lol

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 9, 2017 Murby 0
rickdun wrote:

Murby wrote:From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

Murby, I order mine off of ebay, packfreshusa.com, is the manufacturer. I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve been dealing with them for years.

Like I said in a previous post, your company would be on my do not order list.

When I look at their ebay ad for their 5 gallon + 2000cc absorbents, their stock photo shows a mylar bag sticking out of the bucket with a definite fold crease in it. The same ad also shows the bags folded in at least 4 parts for shipping.

Have you ever actually checked your bags? I mean, have you ever taken one and held it up to the sun outdoors and looked inside for holes where the bag is folded?

I bookmarked their website and am going to give them a ring on Monday to see what they have to say…

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 9, 2017 Murby 0
rickdun wrote:

Murby wrote:From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

Murby, I order mine off of ebay, packfreshusa.com, is the manufacturer. I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve been dealing with them for years.

Like I said in a previous post, your company would be on my do not order list.

When I look at their ebay ad for their 5 gallon + 2000cc absorbents, their stock photo shows a mylar bag sticking out of the bucket with a definite fold crease in it. The same ad also shows the bags folded in at least 4 parts for shipping.

Have you ever actually checked your bags? I mean, have you ever taken one and held it up to the sun outdoors and looked inside for holes where the bag is folded?

I bookmarked their website and am going to give them a ring on Monday to see what they have to say…

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 9, 2017 rickdun 0
Murby wrote:
From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

Murby, I order mine off of ebay, packfreshusa.com, is the manufacturer. I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve been dealing with them for years.

Like I said in a previous post, your company would be on my do not order list.

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 9, 2017 rickdun 0
Murby wrote:
From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

Murby, I order mine off of ebay, packfreshusa.com, is the manufacturer. I’ve never had any problems with them and I’ve been dealing with them for years.

Like I said in a previous post, your company would be on my do not order list.

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0
101airborne wrote:

rickdun wrote:If it were me, I’d send them back for a refund of my money and that company would be on my do not order from list.

I have several companies on that list, they will not get another order from me.

I agree. Every time I’ve ordered them they come rolled up and then wrapped in bubble wrap.

From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0
101airborne wrote:

rickdun wrote:If it were me, I’d send them back for a refund of my money and that company would be on my do not order from list.

I have several companies on that list, they will not get another order from me.

I agree. Every time I’ve ordered them they come rolled up and then wrapped in bubble wrap.

From what supplier? Who packs them with such care?

Statistics: Posted by Murby — Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:55 pm


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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0

I just got the following email from MylarPro:

Thank you for your photo and response.

We tried calling you to talk, but left a message.

Yes, and they do show up in random places as well. But, light shinning through a bag does not make it a defective bag. If it did, then 3.5 mil bags won’t be sold at all, since they all have multiple pinholes. They are like looking at the stars on a clear night. We don’t even sell them, because we think it would lessen the quality of our line of bags, just because of the appearance. People buy them like it’s going out of style just to keep their cost of prepping down.

Now the reason for the foil layer is to protect your food from the light. So unless you plan to store your food in the sunlight or an area that has a lot of light, these and other bags with pinholes would have very little effect on storing your food. A bag with many pinholes, may reduce the length of storage from 25 – 30 years down to maybe 23 – 28 years. Now these numbers have a lot of factors in them, like where you store them (climate, light, ect…), what you are storing, and the thick of the bags. So again, if it is not punctured the bags are fine to use and will last you for years. Please remember, that there 2 – 4 layers of material in these bags protecting your food.

We fold our bags to it keep the cost down for our customers. Instead of sending them cheaper low quality bag, we send our customers extremely high quality bags at great price. If we didn’t fold them, the cost of shipping would raise the price $5 to $15 per order depending on location it’s traveling to. Now if you order 3 or more of these packages with us, then they are shipped in a Large Flat Rate Box, and then the fold is more of a roll over and not a hard fold.

Huh What? “The reason for the foil layer is to protect your food from light” !!! Seriously?

While I realize that light can harm food, the reason for the aluminum is to stop oxygen molecules from penetrating the plastic… If light was the issue, they’d just use an opaque plastic later.

This leaves me wondering if this guy is just trying to pull the wool over my eyes or if he really is ignorant of the purpose of the aluminum barrier?

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0

I just got the following email from MylarPro:

Thank you for your photo and response.

We tried calling you to talk, but left a message.

Yes, and they do show up in random places as well. But, light shinning through a bag does not make it a defective bag. If it did, then 3.5 mil bags won’t be sold at all, since they all have multiple pinholes. They are like looking at the stars on a clear night. We don’t even sell them, because we think it would lessen the quality of our line of bags, just because of the appearance. People buy them like it’s going out of style just to keep their cost of prepping down.

Now the reason for the foil layer is to protect your food from the light. So unless you plan to store your food in the sunlight or an area that has a lot of light, these and other bags with pinholes would have very little effect on storing your food. A bag with many pinholes, may reduce the length of storage from 25 – 30 years down to maybe 23 – 28 years. Now these numbers have a lot of factors in them, like where you store them (climate, light, ect…), what you are storing, and the thick of the bags. So again, if it is not punctured the bags are fine to use and will last you for years. Please remember, that there 2 – 4 layers of material in these bags protecting your food.

We fold our bags to it keep the cost down for our customers. Instead of sending them cheaper low quality bag, we send our customers extremely high quality bags at great price. If we didn’t fold them, the cost of shipping would raise the price $5 to $15 per order depending on location it’s traveling to. Now if you order 3 or more of these packages with us, then they are shipped in a Large Flat Rate Box, and then the fold is more of a roll over and not a hard fold.

Huh What? “The reason for the foil layer is to protect your food from light” !!! Seriously?

While I realize that light can harm food, the reason for the aluminum is to stop oxygen molecules from penetrating the plastic… If light was the issue, they’d just use an opaque plastic later.

This leaves me wondering if this guy is just trying to pull the wool over my eyes or if he really is ignorant of the purpose of the aluminum barrier?

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 daaswampman 0

Sorry to hear of your problems. I have not had any issues, but it could be because I buy in bulk and only order thick bags. They have always been shipped flat or with one fold in the five gallon bags. I tried thin bags, but they seemed way too flimsy to trust.

I don’t buy that holes in the metal is normal, even the super thin Mylar bags that chips and snacks come in, rarely have holes and they can be reused! Swamp

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 daaswampman 0

Sorry to hear of your problems. I have not had any issues, but it could be because I buy in bulk and only order thick bags. They have always been shipped flat or with one fold in the five gallon bags. I tried thin bags, but they seemed way too flimsy to trust.

I don’t buy that holes in the metal is normal, even the super thin Mylar bags that chips and snacks come in, rarely have holes and they can be reused! Swamp

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0

So I ordered some bags from MylarPro and just received them today…

They are damaged in the exact same way the Walmart bags were damaged. In fact, Walmart did a better job packing them as their envelope was larger and the bags weren’t so tightly folded.

See photos.. And that’s just one side.. there are holes on the other side of the bag too.

You all better check your bags! I wonder how many people are out there who didn’t bother to check the integrity of their bags and packed their food away.

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 8, 2017 Murby 0

So I ordered some bags from MylarPro and just received them today…

They are damaged in the exact same way the Walmart bags were damaged. In fact, Walmart did a better job packing them as their envelope was larger and the bags weren’t so tightly folded.

See photos.. And that’s just one side.. there are holes on the other side of the bag too.

You all better check your bags! I wonder how many people are out there who didn’t bother to check the integrity of their bags and packed their food away.

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 6, 2017 Murby 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
the outer metal coating layer is everything when it comes to these multi-layer cross laid type bags – that’s where the air re-infiltration battle is fought – it’s why built in creases aren’t permissible either – no deep scratches – no denting or cratering ….

again – if you’re using damaged bags or tossing the filled bags around like a beach ball – you might as well not bother with using the bags … you take a factory fresh bag off your pile and spread it out into the bucket – make sure your hands are clean – keep the bag interior as clean & sterile as possible – they are manufactured to a food grade level …

The only thing I did with these 5 gal bags was to take them out of the flimsy envelope they arrived in, unfold one, open it, and hold it to the light to check for holes. There where at least 10 holes.. right where the bags were folded for shipping.

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Food & Water • Re: Mylar Bag Fiasco… What is going on??

April 6, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Murby wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:
the entire purpose of using a mylar bag is having an totally enclosed envelope – with theI need to clear this up so there’s no confusion. The vacuum integrity is still there.. its only the thin aluminum that is broken.. the plastic membrane is still intact.. Light can shine through the clear plastic because the opaque aluminum layer has been broken. holes the vacuum integrity is shot
– might as well just use a bare food grade bucket … a mylar bag has almost the same air impenetrability as a solid container like glass or metal – a remarkable piece of technology ….

if you’re one of the people that packs incorrectly and don’t use a bucket – you’re totally screwed & tattooed ….

So far, the only mylar bags I’ve used are the 1 gallon size.. but it was quite apparent that loading 40 or 50 pounds of material into an unsupported bag would be a bad idea. I had planned on putting the bag into the bucket before loading it.. This stuff isn’t complicated to me, but the pin-holes are an issue so far as I can tell..

if the guy you’re talking to at Discount is shipping out junk mylar bagging – he needs to be put on a “Do Not Buy List” ….

I’ve actually heard good things about them.. but it makes me wonder if people ever bother to check their bags against a light bulb. I learned of the pinhole problem with the 1 gallon bags. You can crease and pinch them once.. if you pinch the same spot twice, pinholes show up.

Mylar bags are not very strong when it comes to the aluminum layer integrity.

the outer metal coating layer is everything when it comes to these multi-layer cross laid type bags – that’s where the air re-infiltration battle is fought – it’s why built in creases aren’t permissible either – no deep scratches – no denting or cratering ….

again – if you’re using damaged bags or tossing the filled bags around like a beach ball – you might as well not bother with using the bags … you take a factory fresh bag off your pile and spread it out into the bucket – make sure your hands are clean – keep the bag interior as clean & sterile as possible – they are manufactured to a food grade level …

Statistics: Posted by Illini Warrior — Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:43 am