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September 13, 2017 daaswampman 0

I grew up in Northern Nevada and it was like Permafrost’s world! The difference from then and now is borrowing was a necessity and not greed. I can remember taking a neighbor’s truck to get my uncle to the hospital, it was not stealing, I intended to return it and pay if needed. The neighbor was not surprised , grateful it helped, and refused any payment!

No different than my boats were recently borrowed by the neighbors when I was at work! Should I have been angry that locks were cut, because kids were missing on the lake? There is a difference between men’s laws and what is morally right and wrong! Swamp

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 13, 2017 daaswampman 0

I grew up in Northern Nevada and it was like Permafrost’s world! The difference from then and now is borrowing was a necessity and not greed. I can remember taking a neighbor’s truck to get my uncle to the hospital, it was not stealing, I intended to return it and pay if needed. The neighbor was not surprised , grateful it helped, and refused any payment!

No different than my boats were recently borrowed by the neighbors when I was at work! Should I have been angry that locks were cut, because kids were missing on the lake? There is a difference between men’s laws and what is morally right and wrong! Swamp

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 13, 2017 Permafrost 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
so if someone has a flat and no spare – OK to ”borrow” a tire off your vehicle and leave you stranded ? … rummage thru someone’s garage for a tool you don’t happen to have … I’m guessing it’s all OK until it happens to U – that’s usually the way it is

Think it depends on your location and frame of mind. I don’t lock my cabin because someone may need something, just about everybody I know does the same as long as they are out of the major cities. Many villages I have lived in people will borrow tools without asking and then bring them back later. I have left my truck at trailheads and come back to find a note saying someone has grabbed one of the three spare tires I carry, they leave contact info and drop it off to me as soon as I am in town to contact them. It is a whole different mentality here. I’ve even seen a state trooper grab a loader off of a construction site to clear a landslide, because it was going to be days for a state crew to get out to do a hour of work.

Different mentality Illini. In a urban or suburban area a breakdown or road blockage is a inconvenience, in a rural area it can be life or death. Get trapped on a drifted in highway (granted ours are 2 lane gravel) at 50 below zero that only gets 4 or 5 vehicles on it in a week and it will kill people if it is not opened to get to those that are trapped in the middle. Even cops & judges understand this here and make allowances for the grater good, just like other everyday folks that own cabins or construction companies. We even have laws on the books that say it is illegal to pass hitchhikers if it is colder than 35 below zero, because if you do they will die. Like I said it’s a different mentality here.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 13, 2017 Permafrost 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
so if someone has a flat and no spare – OK to ”borrow” a tire off your vehicle and leave you stranded ? … rummage thru someone’s garage for a tool you don’t happen to have … I’m guessing it’s all OK until it happens to U – that’s usually the way it is

Think it depends on your location and frame of mind. I don’t lock my cabin because someone may need something, just about everybody I know does the same as long as they are out of the major cities. Many villages I have lived in people will borrow tools without asking and then bring them back later. I have left my truck at trailheads and come back to find a note saying someone has grabbed one of the three spare tires I carry, they leave contact info and drop it off to me as soon as I am in town to contact them. It is a whole different mentality here. I’ve even seen a state trooper grab a loader off of a construction site to clear a landslide, because it was going to be days for a state crew to get out to do a hour of work.

Different mentality Illini. In a urban or suburban area a breakdown or road blockage is a inconvenience, in a rural area it can be life or death. Get trapped on a drifted in highway (granted ours are 2 lane gravel) at 50 below zero that only gets 4 or 5 vehicles on it in a week and it will kill people if it is not opened to get to those that are trapped in the middle. Even cops & judges understand this here and make allowances for the grater good, just like other everyday folks that own cabins or construction companies. We even have laws on the books that say it is illegal to pass hitchhikers if it is colder than 35 below zero, because if you do they will die. Like I said it’s a different mentality here.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 10, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
Permafrost wrote:

PatrioticStabilist wrote:But I sure wouldn’t be trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!

Nice thing about Alaska, there just isn’t that many cops. In the 300 mile stretch between North Anchorage (Wasilla) and Fairbanks I think there are like 3 or 4 state troopers for the whole road. That and it is not uncommon for people to “borrow” equipment from road construction sites on the side of the highway to clear accidents or move the moose that get hit, as long as the site is within 30 miles or so of where the equipment is needed. Although that always freaks out the tourists when you tell them you have to go 10 or 20 miles down the road to grab a loader to pull them out of the ditch, and then show up a hour later in a loader that has random company or state markings on it.

so if someone has a flat and no spare – OK to ”borrow” a tire off your vehicle and leave you stranded ? … rummage thru someone’s garage for a tool you don’t happen to have … I’m guessing it’s all OK until it happens to U – that’s usually the way it is – kind of Robin Hood but only helping yourself – in this country we just lock Robin up – other countries chop off a hand – and then there’s good old one-on-one firing squad for the countries that have their poo poo together …

if that piece of equipment you ”borrow” was intentionally parked for needed servicing – you blow the engine or ruin the drivetrain – cause damage to other property sometime during your ”borrow” – you just leave your name & address and $10,000 on the seat to start the repairs?

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 10, 2017 Permafrost 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
But I sure wouldn’t be trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!

Nice thing about Alaska, there just isn’t that many cops. In the 300 mile stretch between North Anchorage (Wasilla) and Fairbanks I think there are like 3 or 4 state troopers for the whole road. That and it is not uncommon for people to “borrow” equipment from road construction sites on the side of the highway to clear accidents or move the moose that get hit, as long as the site is within 30 miles or so of where the equipment is needed. Although that always freaks out the tourists when you tell them you have to go 10 or 20 miles down the road to grab a loader to pull them out of the ditch, and then show up a hour later in a loader that has random company or state markings on it.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 10, 2017 Permafrost 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
But I sure wouldn’t be trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!

Nice thing about Alaska, there just isn’t that many cops. In the 300 mile stretch between North Anchorage (Wasilla) and Fairbanks I think there are like 3 or 4 state troopers for the whole road. That and it is not uncommon for people to “borrow” equipment from road construction sites on the side of the highway to clear accidents or move the moose that get hit, as long as the site is within 30 miles or so of where the equipment is needed. Although that always freaks out the tourists when you tell them you have to go 10 or 20 miles down the road to grab a loader to pull them out of the ditch, and then show up a hour later in a loader that has random company or state markings on it.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 9, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I keep old keys that we have from equipment we don’t have just for this reason. I have a key box for those mis-placed, unused, etc. keys that we will likely never use. Snowmobiles were the same way and all took the same key. I don’t know if they updated those or not. But we do have keys for snowmobiles that we don’t even have anymore.

I kinda chuckled thinking about someone trying to steel BIL’s equipment. Unless you have a key, shake this wire twice, pull on that cord, and lean on that lever all at the same time…..you’re not getting it started. :rofl: Ha, he can’t even get it started half the time. :shakeno: A “would be” thief would probably know better than to try and steel his crappy equipment. But it would be fun to watch them try….. :evil:

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September 9, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I keep old keys that we have from equipment we don’t have just for this reason. I have a key box for those mis-placed, unused, etc. keys that we will likely never use. Snowmobiles were the same way and all took the same key. I don’t know if they updated those or not. But we do have keys for snowmobiles that we don’t even have anymore.

I kinda chuckled thinking about someone trying to steel BIL’s equipment. Unless you have a key, shake this wire twice, pull on that cord, and lean on that lever all at the same time…..you’re not getting it started. :rofl: Ha, he can’t even get it started half the time. :shakeno: A “would be” thief would probably know better than to try and steel his crappy equipment. But it would be fun to watch them try….. :evil:

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 9, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

just had an incident the other week – kid stole a bulldozer from a construction site one nite – little joyride thru the retail area – took out a squad car and almost squished the cop – got an idea he got a key from a family member ….

in regard to equipment and a SHTF – if you go and rent the equipment just prior to the crunch – have paperwork – can’t return it – that’s all legit and a situation between you and the rental outfit ….

stealing equipment – that’s using it without permission – whole different animal …. might get away with it if means that you basically landed up safeguarding the equipment when the jobsite/rental lot got ravaged by looters – no matter what the SHTF scenario I’d definitely leave a message at the jobsite/rental lot that couldn’t be missed – get my azz back over there ASAP when things clear up – looters could be lined up & shot in some cases ….

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September 9, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

just had an incident the other week – kid stole a bulldozer from a construction site one nite – little joyride thru the retail area – took out a squad car and almost squished the cop – got an idea he got a key from a family member ….

in regard to equipment and a SHTF – if you go and rent the equipment just prior to the crunch – have paperwork – can’t return it – that’s all legit and a situation between you and the rental outfit ….

stealing equipment – that’s using it without permission – whole different animal …. might get away with it if means that you basically landed up safeguarding the equipment when the jobsite/rental lot got ravaged by looters – no matter what the SHTF scenario I’d definitely leave a message at the jobsite/rental lot that couldn’t be missed – get my azz back over there ASAP when things clear up – looters could be lined up & shot in some cases ….

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Heavy Equipment Escort

September 9, 2017 Permafrost 0

So I was driving back to town today and I passed a construction site on the side of the highway. Lots of shiny stuff just sitting around. It got me thinking. I have a Caterpillar key on my keychain(among others like Honda and Yamaha outboard motor keys, Volvo, Case, IR, Hitachi, John Deere, and Polaris snowmachines), so I figured I would see if Cat has updated their locks in the last 10 years. They have not. It’s not like I stole it or anything, I just made sure my key still worked. Then I started thinking, does anyone else carry a key?

There are a lot of places a loader can get to that most other vehicles can not, including fording small rivers. The average “highway” speed is about 25 MPH on flat ground, and they will pull most hills around 20 MPH. I’ve gotten a zoom boom up to 35 MPH on the highway, but that is the exception because it is a telahandler instead of a true loader. The nice thing about heavy equipment is that it is so big nobody in their right mind is going to try to steal it under normal circumstances, so they all take the same key for each manufacturer. A Cat 299 skidsteer key will start up a 966 loader or a D8 bulldozer, same goes for Case and Volvo and Ingersoll Rand. The point I’m making with this is that if the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles or storm damage has made travel impossible, all one needs to do is hit up your local construction site and fire something up to clear a path. Granted it is probably a little far fetched to envision bulldozing down a highway through gridlock in a mass exodus from a city with a convoy behind you. On the other hand I’ve “borrowed” equipment sitting at the boat landing to pull stuck vehicles out of the river or smooth out the launch ramp, I even leave a couple of bucks taped to the seat for the fuel I’ve used so nobody will complain or call the cops. If worse comes to worse, I make a point of knowing where the equipment in my area is so that I have more options if I need them.

For anyone who has not considered this, a few heavy equipment keys (along with other universal keys) will add some flexibility to your preps and your bug out plans.

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September 9, 2017 Permafrost 0

So I was driving back to town today and I passed a construction site on the side of the highway. Lots of shiny stuff just sitting around. It got me thinking. I have a Caterpillar key on my keychain(among others like Honda and Yamaha outboard motor keys, Volvo, Case, IR, Hitachi, John Deere, and Polaris snowmachines), so I figured I would see if Cat has updated their locks in the last 10 years. They have not. It’s not like I stole it or anything, I just made sure my key still worked. Then I started thinking, does anyone else carry a key?

There are a lot of places a loader can get to that most other vehicles can not, including fording small rivers. The average “highway” speed is about 25 MPH on flat ground, and they will pull most hills around 20 MPH. I’ve gotten a zoom boom up to 35 MPH on the highway, but that is the exception because it is a telahandler instead of a true loader. The nice thing about heavy equipment is that it is so big nobody in their right mind is going to try to steal it under normal circumstances, so they all take the same key for each manufacturer. A Cat 299 skidsteer key will start up a 966 loader or a D8 bulldozer, same goes for Case and Volvo and Ingersoll Rand. The point I’m making with this is that if the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles or storm damage has made travel impossible, all one needs to do is hit up your local construction site and fire something up to clear a path. Granted it is probably a little far fetched to envision bulldozing down a highway through gridlock in a mass exodus from a city with a convoy behind you. On the other hand I’ve “borrowed” equipment sitting at the boat landing to pull stuck vehicles out of the river or smooth out the launch ramp, I even leave a couple of bucks taped to the seat for the fuel I’ve used so nobody will complain or call the cops. If worse comes to worse, I make a point of knowing where the equipment in my area is so that I have more options if I need them.

For anyone who has not considered this, a few heavy equipment keys (along with other universal keys) will add some flexibility to your preps and your bug out plans.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: My Bug Out Bag

June 18, 2017 risky buisness 0

I’m thinking that this thread is probably getting an awful lot more important than we allow. As our world seems to be on some collision course with any number of disasters looming, the importance of being able to sustain our selves even for a brief period is very important. If we fall into a normalcy bias thought process and believe that a change of political climate will cure all that is wrong, I suggest that were destine to fail, and that failure could be a permanent one. If I may suggest, for those who lament the weight of the items they presuppose they need to actually survive some event, to go to self-reliance outfitters.com , and watch Dave Canterburys take on some topics that we could all relate to,

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: My Bug Out Bag

June 18, 2017 risky buisness 0

I’m thinking that this thread is probably getting an awful lot more important than we allow. As our world seems to be on some collision course with any number of disasters looming, the importance of being able to sustain our selves even for a brief period is very important. If we fall into a normalcy bias thought process and believe that a change of political climate will cure all that is wrong, I suggest that were destine to fail, and that failure could be a permanent one. If I may suggest, for those who lament the weight of the items they presuppose they need to actually survive some event, to go to self-reliance outfitters.com , and watch Dave Canterburys take on some topics that we could all relate to,

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Mid Size or Full Size SUV

June 3, 2017 IceFire 0

It all depends on what you need it to do, what kind of conditions you will be driving it in, etc.

For example, I needed a “daily driver” to commute 20-30 minutes to work, so needed good gas mileage; at the same time, I live out in the sticks on a dirt road, so AWD/4wd capability was mandatory. I also need cargo capacity for hauling horse/goat/chicken feed/grains, groceries, dogs/goats in crates, plants/supplies for the garden, etc., and some light towing capability (for hauling a motorcycle on a trailer, when needed.) We’ve also had 2 cars totaled by inattentive/moron driers, so wanted something with great crash-test ratings. Given those parameters, I went with a Subaru Forester, as it fit with my needs.

Moral of the story is first determine what type of conditions you will be driving in, what kind of hauling/towing capacity you need, range/gas mileage, how many passengers you plan on carrying, etc. THEN determine what vehicle best fits within those parameters.

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June 3, 2017 IceFire 0

It all depends on what you need it to do, what kind of conditions you will be driving it in, etc.

For example, I needed a “daily driver” to commute 20-30 minutes to work, so needed good gas mileage; at the same time, I live out in the sticks on a dirt road, so AWD/4wd capability was mandatory. I also need cargo capacity for hauling horse/goat/chicken feed/grains, groceries, dogs/goats in crates, plants/supplies for the garden, etc., and some light towing capability (for hauling a motorcycle on a trailer, when needed.) We’ve also had 2 cars totaled by inattentive/moron driers, so wanted something with great crash-test ratings. Given those parameters, I went with a Subaru Forester, as it fit with my needs.

Moral of the story is first determine what type of conditions you will be driving in, what kind of hauling/towing capacity you need, range/gas mileage, how many passengers you plan on carrying, etc. THEN determine what vehicle best fits within those parameters.

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June 2, 2017 Odin Gray 0

Is this a daily driver with some bug-out capability OR a BOV with some daily driver capability?

I am not a fan of SUVs as BOVs as a pickup is more versatile especially carrying non-enclosed cargo like fuel, firewood, oversized or odiferous cargo, etc.

I had a 2002 Dakota pickup (4 doors and fiberglass bed topper) that I loved: it was largely unsupported in the aftermarket industry however.

One of the things to consider in any vehicle is fuel range when loaded: a large fuel tank and/or the ability to carry extra fuel is vital.

Consider ALL the things that you would like this vehicle to do and then buy a newer Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and kit it out with offroad accessories.

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June 2, 2017 Odin Gray 0

Is this a daily driver with some bug-out capability OR a BOV with some daily driver capability?

I am not a fan of SUVs as BOVs as a pickup is more versatile especially carrying non-enclosed cargo like fuel, firewood, oversized or odiferous cargo, etc.

I had a 2002 Dakota pickup (4 doors and fiberglass bed topper) that I loved: it was largely unsupported in the aftermarket industry however.

One of the things to consider in any vehicle is fuel range when loaded: a large fuel tank and/or the ability to carry extra fuel is vital.

Consider ALL the things that you would like this vehicle to do and then buy a newer Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and kit it out with offroad accessories.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Mid Size or Full Size SUV

May 31, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
guardsman79 wrote:
Looking to add another vehicle to the stable. I’ve already got a ram 1500 4×4 with some nice additions for survival. Looking at getting a SUV next. What’s everyone’s thoughts on mid size vs full size SUV’s? I’m mainly looking between a hummer h3/durango or a tahoe/suburban.

Do you have a consumer reports membership?

If not, I pay monthly….List the things important to you specifically you want and I’ll be glad to break them down for you there….IMHO it is one of the most reliable resources out there for car purchases.

I’d need a list of importance in order for things like—reliability, luxury, towing capacity, safety, etc….

Again, I’d be happy to help there if you want…..here or in PM….no bother for me as I do this for all my friends.

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May 31, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0
guardsman79 wrote:
Looking to add another vehicle to the stable. I’ve already got a ram 1500 4×4 with some nice additions for survival. Looking at getting a SUV next. What’s everyone’s thoughts on mid size vs full size SUV’s? I’m mainly looking between a hummer h3/durango or a tahoe/suburban.

Do you have a consumer reports membership?

If not, I pay monthly….List the things important to you specifically you want and I’ll be glad to break them down for you there….IMHO it is one of the most reliable resources out there for car purchases.

I’d need a list of importance in order for things like—reliability, luxury, towing capacity, safety, etc….

Again, I’d be happy to help there if you want…..here or in PM….no bother for me as I do this for all my friends.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Mid Size or Full Size SUV

May 31, 2017 Blondie 0

GM didn’t get on board with rear fold flat seats until 2015. So if you’re looking for cargo space that may weigh on your decision. Older models you have to physically remove rear seats and some have rear consoles between rear seats. I wanted something I could sleep in comfortably if used to bug out.

Fold flat seats were a must for me as was true 4WD which is necessary up here. I also read about roof strength and measured the roof cargo area to see what will fit.

While I don’t tow anything with mine, it does have a good tow capacity and trailering pkg.

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May 31, 2017 Blondie 0

GM didn’t get on board with rear fold flat seats until 2015. So if you’re looking for cargo space that may weigh on your decision. Older models you have to physically remove rear seats and some have rear consoles between rear seats. I wanted something I could sleep in comfortably if used to bug out.

Fold flat seats were a must for me as was true 4WD which is necessary up here. I also read about roof strength and measured the roof cargo area to see what will fit.

While I don’t tow anything with mine, it does have a good tow capacity and trailering pkg.

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May 31, 2017 guardsman79 0

Looking to add another vehicle to the stable. I’ve already got a ram 1500 4×4 with some nice additions for survival. Looking at getting a SUV next. What’s everyone’s thoughts on mid size vs full size SUV’s? I’m mainly looking between a hummer h3/durango or a tahoe/suburban.

Statistics: Posted by guardsman79 — Tue May 30, 2017 8:11 pm


BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Tools

April 14, 2017 daaswampman 0

Good post and a great reminder! I don’t carry everything you list, but I do believe in carrying supplies and tools. However my list is from my experiences stranded on the side of the road! I am open to learn from others, as I would rather not learn by being on the side of the road.

I carry at least two spares when going off pavement, radiator hoses, belts, bulbs, fuses, replacement fluids, a hi-lift jack, appropriate tools, and a couple good tarps. A tarp sure beats kneeling in the mud and a bumper jack is much better than crawling on the ground to place a crappy factory jack on the frame!

I would also immediately replace plastic or decorative bumpers with something that can be used as a bumper! Many Thanks! Swamp

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April 13, 2017 Cin 0

I had one of those plastic cat litter containers in my vehicle with bungee cords, ratchet straps, jumper cables, a net, and some tools. Jack and tire iron were stored in a lift-up portion in the trunk. Somehow, in the move, the whole box disappeared. Not quite sure where it went.

I was just telling Husband that we need to get a tool kit for the 2 vehicles we drive a lot. The truck is our “farm truck” and has all kinds of tools in it, but it isn’t driven on a daily basis.

Last week, one of our neighbors needed a jump and we took our battery charger down to help her out. Turns out with her big SUV, the charger wasn’t enough. We ended up having to use my Dad’s jumper cables (because we couldn’t find ours). So last week, I bought Husband a set of jumper cables to put in the car.

I’ll be stocking the car tool box soon.

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April 13, 2017 MoosePath 0

Every vehicle I have owned the first thing I do is buy a rim and full size spare tire to fit that vehicle. We do a lot of gravel road driving and those cheap donuts they give with the vehicle are worthless. Another valuable tool is a good flashlight that stays in the vehicle 24/7, nothing sucks more then have to change a flat in the dark without light.

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April 13, 2017 Permafrost 0

I’ll second what Illini said.

My wife has a cordless 1/2″ impact wrench and a floor jack in her ride, takes longer to drop the tire from underneath her ride than it does to actually change her tire. She also has a plug in 12V air compressor and a tire plug kit so tires can be repaired & inflated on the vehicle. Makes all the difference on bad gravel roads where you loose at least 1 tire per trip, she can’t get heavy duty tires (load range E) in her size.

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April 13, 2017 Illini Warrior 0

if you don’t do anything else for your vehicle emergencies – check over your tire changing capabilities – wouldn’t recommend just the standard OEM package that comes with the vehicle …. you definitely can use better leverage on those lugnuts – a 4way +wrench and a combo 18 inch breaker bar/pipe can get even the worse loose … a simple 6′ X 8′ blue tarp makes the job cleaner … and a better jack like a hydraulic bottle jack and a some wood blocking makes a non-pavement tire changing even possible ….

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April 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0
Blondie wrote:

Gunns wrote:Good post. I don’t have any of those things in my truck.

Father’s Day is coming. ;)

Which means some great sales!! Actually Home Depot has some good spring sales too. Got a new tool cart for hubby and saved $100….he’s been eyeing it for a long while now.

Also make sure you have ratchet straps too. I can’t tell you how many times they’ve come in handy for us.

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April 13, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Yep…Been meaning to stock up my new truck and just haven’t gotten around to it…I’ll jump off here and do it now since I cant sleep……Ahhhhh, E-commerce. :)

Thanks for the reminder Permafrost.

I probably don’t need to remind you, but…Thermometer.:)

Say safe up there sir.

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April 13, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

Yep…Been meaning to stock up my new truck and just haven’t gotten around to it…I’ll jump off here and do it now since I cant sleep……Ahhhhh, E-commerce. :)

Thanks for the reminder Permafrost.

I probably don’t need to remind you, but…Thermometer.:)

Say safe up there sir.

Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:24 am


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BOB’s & BOV’s • Tools

April 12, 2017 Permafrost 0

Was not sure where to put this, but it involves vehicles so I figured this was as good a place as any.

I recently got back to town from the cabin and yesterday I decided to finally fire up my old diesel truck and go into town. Needless to say I broke down. Shredded the serpentine belt, probably because it has not been used in forever and I should have checked before I left. Normally this is not a big deal. I carry a spare belt along with a extra alternator and power steering pump, tensioner & idler pulleys, fluids and filters, and even a spare mechanical fuel injection pump & fuel tank lift pump. It was when I went to change it that I ran into problems, all of my tools (and there are a lot of them) are still packed on my snowmachine & freight sled. I got running by buying some cheep wrenches & double wrenching (pales in comparison to a serpentine belt tool) to get the new belt on, but it was a wake up call about my memory. I had enough parts in the back seat of my truck to fix most common problems, but I had forgotten to switch the tools over from my winter transport to my spring ride.

I figured I would post this as a reminder to all to make sure they have their vehicles fully stocked when they use them. I know I am looking at getting triple sets of tools now (boat, snowmachine, truck) so that this does not happen again, even cheep yard sale tools are better than none.

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:28 pm


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BOB’s & BOV’s • Tools

April 12, 2017 Permafrost 0

Was not sure where to put this, but it involves vehicles so I figured this was as good a place as any.

I recently got back to town from the cabin and yesterday I decided to finally fire up my old diesel truck and go into town. Needless to say I broke down. Shredded the serpentine belt, probably because it has not been used in forever and I should have checked before I left. Normally this is not a big deal. I carry a spare belt along with a extra alternator and power steering pump, tensioner & idler pulleys, fluids and filters, and even a spare mechanical fuel injection pump & fuel tank lift pump. It was when I went to change it that I ran into problems, all of my tools (and there are a lot of them) are still packed on my snowmachine & freight sled. I got running by buying some cheep wrenches & double wrenching (pales in comparison to a serpentine belt tool) to get the new belt on, but it was a wake up call about my memory. I had enough parts in the back seat of my truck to fix most common problems, but I had forgotten to switch the tools over from my winter transport to my spring ride.

I figured I would post this as a reminder to all to make sure they have their vehicles fully stocked when they use them. I know I am looking at getting triple sets of tools now (boat, snowmachine, truck) so that this does not happen again, even cheep yard sale tools are better than none.

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:28 pm


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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Trail 90 bug out bike

March 21, 2017 ejlogging3709 0

Like the trail 90’s got one, dead battery during wither storage. Made two canvas saddle bags for mine and leather rifle scabard to go on bike like on a saddle with butt sticking out the back. works great while dear hunting on the bike. Have taken it on lots of dirt roads and off the road camping twice. Would like to do that again. I live in ca 95695 area if you live close to that zip in ca would like to see your bike

    :thumbsup:

    Statistics: Posted by ejlogging3709 — Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:51 pm


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    BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Survival Bucket

    February 8, 2017 theoutback 0

    I just put 3 together this weekend, but they are more food based buckets though. Some things like tuna and such will need to be rotated, so it will be part of the 1st of the year to do list, like changing batteries in smoke alarms.

    Statistics: Posted by theoutback — Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:28 am