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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 26, 2017 TRex2 0
Missile or no missile?

All of these scenarios assume North Korea sets off a thermonuclear device in a controlled way – via aeroplane, barge, balloon, or some kind of stationary platform.

But the risk to people also largely depends on whether or not North Korea launches a nuclear warhead on an intercontinental ballistic missile or a shorter-range rocket, such as one launched from a submarine.

If successful, such a missile test would show North Korea has miniaturised its weapons. And if the blast appears to be caused by a hydrogen bomb, it would show North Korea could pull off a devastating thermonuclear strike on US soil.

But missiles are prone to failure in multiple ways, especially those in early development. A North Korean ICBM tipped with a nuclear warhead might miss its target by a significant distance, or explode en route.

This could lead to detonation in an unintended place and altitude.

I believe this, and the possibility that the warhead itself might become a dud (rocket launches are fairly rough, it isn’t smooth like taking off in a jet airliner), are the main reasons Crazy Fat Kid is delaying attacking us.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:18 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 15, 2017 TRex2 0
Straydog wrote:

TRex2 wrote:
After he does those things,
it’s pretty much just a matter of time till he starts
(or restarts, depending on how you look at it) the war.

I think you are on the right path. I’m just not convinced that he is going to emp us uniess we do something major first. If he does i think he understands we can and will respond. We likely would not take the path of an emp as they dont appear to have enough grid to bother with. Interesting times for sure.

If you don’t think he will “EMP” us, what do you think he is going
to do with those nukes and his variety of ballistic missiles?

Equivilant:
Right now, you are in a large room that is very full of school children, and there is a madman who has been talking about blowing all of you up. He has a bomb big enough to do it and merely needs to pick up and plug in a couple of wires to detonate it. You cannot reach him to stop him, but you have a gun in your hands that is more than enough to stop him.

Your move. Are you convinced he won’t blow up the room full of school children if you don’t shoot him?
What do you think he will do, instead?

Now, granted, the bullet from your gun will overpenetrate him and probably hit one of the chlldren.
But the ball is in your court.

Your move.
(This is this situation Omama left Trump with.)

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:19 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 15, 2017 TRex2 0

Since this thread is about EMP-Korea Concerns, I will discuss North Korean behavior, its threat towards us, rather than what we may or may not do to stop him.

I don’t have time, this morning to link to all of the appropriate source material, but I have been studying this guy for a while and I think he needs to do:
at least one more nuclear detonation test, and
at least two more test flights for Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles
(not medium or intermediate range),
before he will launch on us.

I think he needs to do at least one more submarine launched ballistic missile also,
but maybe not.

After he does those things,
it’s pretty much just a matter of time till he starts
(or restarts, depending on how you look at it) the war.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:57 am


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Water • Re: Banned Pesticides Showing Up in California Water

September 13, 2017 TRex2 0
Gunns wrote:
Contaminated water in Ca is the plan. Feminizing of the American male is the goal.

They could have started with San Francisco and Portland and Seattle, but then that would have been redundant. :rofl:

Seriously, though, there are some chemicals that standard filters won’t remove. Fortunately Carbofuran, Diazanon, and most other pesticides is easily done with charcoal filters.

Zinc phosphide is a rodent killer, toxic to fish and anything that eats the fish. But it is practically insoluble in water, and breaks down after a few years in the environment, so I don’t think anyone has to worry about it, unless there are locally contaminated areas (It is dispersed in tablets).

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Water • Re: Banned Pesticides Showing Up in California Water

September 13, 2017 TRex2 0
Gunns wrote:
Contaminated water in Ca is the plan. Feminizing of the American male is the goal.

They could have started with San Francisco and Portland and Seattle, but then that would have been redundant. :rofl:

Seriously, though, there are some chemicals that standard filters won’t remove. Fortunately Carbofuran, Diazanon, and most other pesticides is easily done with charcoal filters.

Zinc phosphide is a rodent killer, toxic to fish and anything that eats the fish. But it is practically insoluble in water, and breaks down after a few years in the environment, so I don’t think anyone has to worry about it, unless there are locally contaminated areas (It is dispersed in tablets).

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General Food Topics • Re: Storing food in a basement

September 13, 2017 TRex2 0
Fullmoon wrote:
Basement floors are notorious for this kind of thing, the concrete will wick moisture from the ground below it which remains wet from all that rain. I don’t know if a dehumidifier will help with the floor problem. They are designed to remove water vapor from the air but as long as the cement floor wicks water it may be a lost cause. All food items should be placed on 2x4s or shelving, never directly on the floor. Even the buckets should be up off the floor just to be safe. Too much work and money invested to have this happen to your stuff.

Sorry to hear that you had to learn this the hard way. I think this is something we need to address a little more frequently when teaching new preppers how to keep stuff safe and secure.

The wicking of moisture from the ground is known to people who design reinforced concrete, although I was taught that it is only significant for a couple of inches. We were taught to make sure the rebar was at least two and a half inches from the surface of the concrete to prevent corrosion. Cement block walls are a different animal. I have seen water wick through 10 inch cement blocks at such a rate it ran down the walls, and when we tried to coat them with sealant, it eventually pushed the sealant off of the blocks. Of course, that basement had totally saturated soil outside of the walls (design flaw).
Lesson:
Be sure not to overlook any contact points between stuff and the walls.

When I worked in logistics, we were taught never to put anything that could mold in contact with concrete, but that was because, unless the air is desert dry, the point where anything comes into contact with concrete will attract moisture like a magnet. Every thing went on pallets. In my own storage system, I just use an expendable piece of wood between the stuff and the floor.

The dehumidifier will just about (but not completely, unless you already live in a dry climate) cure the problem with moisture in the totes. But, while the dehumidifier will help with the moisture from the floor, but it won’t cure it, so lessons 4, 5, and 6 never go away.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:36 am


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General Food Topics • Re: Storing food in a basement

September 13, 2017 TRex2 0
Fullmoon wrote:
Basement floors are notorious for this kind of thing, the concrete will wick moisture from the ground below it which remains wet from all that rain. I don’t know if a dehumidifier will help with the floor problem. They are designed to remove water vapor from the air but as long as the cement floor wicks water it may be a lost cause. All food items should be placed on 2x4s or shelving, never directly on the floor. Even the buckets should be up off the floor just to be safe. Too much work and money invested to have this happen to your stuff.

Sorry to hear that you had to learn this the hard way. I think this is something we need to address a little more frequently when teaching new preppers how to keep stuff safe and secure.

The wicking of moisture from the ground is known to people who design reinforced concrete, although I was taught that it is only significant for a couple of inches. We were taught to make sure the rebar was at least two and a half inches from the surface of the concrete to prevent corrosion. Cement block walls are a different animal. I have seen water wick through 10 inch cement blocks at such a rate it ran down the walls, and when we tried to coat them with sealant, it eventually pushed the sealant off of the blocks. Of course, that basement had totally saturated soil outside of the walls (design flaw).
Lesson:
Be sure not to overlook any contact points between stuff and the walls.

When I worked in logistics, we were taught never to put anything that could mold in contact with concrete, but that was because, unless the air is desert dry, the point where anything comes into contact with concrete will attract moisture like a magnet. Every thing went on pallets. In my own storage system, I just use an expendable piece of wood between the stuff and the floor.

The dehumidifier will just about (but not completely, unless you already live in a dry climate) cure the problem with moisture in the totes. But, while the dehumidifier will help with the moisture from the floor, but it won’t cure it, so lessons 4, 5, and 6 never go away.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:36 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 12, 2017 TRex2 0

Of Interest (for those whose threat profile is gangs that have acquired police riot gas):

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/02/numb_and_coke.html
Does this really work?

No one knows for sure. Both Coca-Cola and Pepsi are acidic, and insurgents and protesters around the world have used acids to minimize the impact of tear gas for decades. Communist Salvadoran guerrillas, for example, used lemon juice in the 1980s, while anti-globalization activists soaked bandanas in vinegar at the Free Trade Association of the Americas summit in 2001. (In terms of pH, Coke and Pepsi are similar to lemon juice, with a pH level of about 2.5. Other types of soda are more basic.) The practice might help prevent the irritant from entering the respiratory system. “Tear gas” isn’t a gas at all, but a cloud of suspended particles that don’t dissolve easily in water, and any kind of wet rag could serve as a filter. It’s possible (but unproved) that an acid-soaked rag would be advantageous given the chemical properties of tear gas. Either way, the tactic has become commonplace among rabble- rousers, and a Pentagon-funded report on nonlethal weapons from 2009 noted in its chapter on tear gas that “a handkerchief soaked in lemon juice can mitigate the weapons’ effects.” That said, no serious medical researchers have tried to demonstrate its efficacy.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:33 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 12, 2017 TRex2 0

Of Interest (for those whose threat profile is gangs that have acquired police riot gas):

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/02/numb_and_coke.html
Does this really work?

No one knows for sure. Both Coca-Cola and Pepsi are acidic, and insurgents and protesters around the world have used acids to minimize the impact of tear gas for decades. Communist Salvadoran guerrillas, for example, used lemon juice in the 1980s, while anti-globalization activists soaked bandanas in vinegar at the Free Trade Association of the Americas summit in 2001. (In terms of pH, Coke and Pepsi are similar to lemon juice, with a pH level of about 2.5. Other types of soda are more basic.) The practice might help prevent the irritant from entering the respiratory system. “Tear gas” isn’t a gas at all, but a cloud of suspended particles that don’t dissolve easily in water, and any kind of wet rag could serve as a filter. It’s possible (but unproved) that an acid-soaked rag would be advantageous given the chemical properties of tear gas. Either way, the tactic has become commonplace among rabble- rousers, and a Pentagon-funded report on nonlethal weapons from 2009 noted in its chapter on tear gas that “a handkerchief soaked in lemon juice can mitigate the weapons’ effects.” That said, no serious medical researchers have tried to demonstrate its efficacy.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 12, 2017 TRex2 0

Of Interest (for those whose threat profile is gangs that have acquired police riot gas):

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/02/numb_and_coke.html
Does this really work?

No one knows for sure. Both Coca-Cola and Pepsi are acidic, and insurgents and protesters around the world have used acids to minimize the impact of tear gas for decades. Communist Salvadoran guerrillas, for example, used lemon juice in the 1980s, while anti-globalization activists soaked bandanas in vinegar at the Free Trade Association of the Americas summit in 2001. (In terms of pH, Coke and Pepsi are similar to lemon juice, with a pH level of about 2.5. Other types of soda are more basic.) The practice might help prevent the irritant from entering the respiratory system. “Tear gas” isn’t a gas at all, but a cloud of suspended particles that don’t dissolve easily in water, and any kind of wet rag could serve as a filter. It’s possible (but unproved) that an acid-soaked rag would be advantageous given the chemical properties of tear gas. Either way, the tactic has become commonplace among rabble- rousers, and a Pentagon-funded report on nonlethal weapons from 2009 noted in its chapter on tear gas that “a handkerchief soaked in lemon juice can mitigate the weapons’ effects.” That said, no serious medical researchers have tried to demonstrate its efficacy.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:33 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
filsgreen wrote:
Across the pond in Liverpool and have been watching it on CNN; I can’t believe the attitude of some people. Watching people queuing to get into the shelters, a lot of them had nothing with them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, thinking they had been advised not to bring anything, this was not the case. Furthermore, the reporter said that some of them were complaining of the conditions inside the shelter :? The reporter noted that they had plenty of cigarettes though.

Welcome to American Prepper Network, and congrats on posting your first view of non-preppers.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:53 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
filsgreen wrote:
Across the pond in Liverpool and have been watching it on CNN; I can’t believe the attitude of some people. Watching people queuing to get into the shelters, a lot of them had nothing with them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, thinking they had been advised not to bring anything, this was not the case. Furthermore, the reporter said that some of them were complaining of the conditions inside the shelter :? The reporter noted that they had plenty of cigarettes though.

Welcome to American Prepper Network, and congrats on posting your first view of non-preppers.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:53 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
LOL….Well, if this just doesn’t beat all… :shakeno:
Another massive X flare is currently popping…Way to early to analyse so NO WORRIES for now.
I may have to start a new thread :surrender:

Still the same subject, so I don’t see any need for a new thread.

“NO WORRIES”
You starting to use the Assie Threat Level Scale?
https://www.humoretc.com/mhcontent/threat-levels.php

Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be right, mate”. Three more escalation levels remain: “Crikey!’, “I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend” and “The barbie is canceled”. So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
LOL….Well, if this just doesn’t beat all… :shakeno:
Another massive X flare is currently popping…Way to early to analyse so NO WORRIES for now.
I may have to start a new thread :surrender:

Still the same subject, so I don’t see any need for a new thread.

“NO WORRIES”
You starting to use the Assie Threat Level Scale?
https://www.humoretc.com/mhcontent/threat-levels.php

Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be right, mate”. Three more escalation levels remain: “Crikey!’, “I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend” and “The barbie is canceled”. So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
ReadyMom wrote:

Floridaclipper wrote:There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. …

Yea. The Weather Channel can get one of those awards, too! Was watching Fox, this morning, and as the reporter is talking about the 2ft of water that was rolling down the street, a SUV came rolling through …

Is this the same Fox Reporter that was standing in water above his knees next to rushing water going down the street as the storm surge rolled in? And then walked out, several steps, towards the moving water…

I think several of them are taking way too much risk.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:47 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 10, 2017 TRex2 0
ReadyMom wrote:

Floridaclipper wrote:There will always be contenders for the Darwin awards. …

Yea. The Weather Channel can get one of those awards, too! Was watching Fox, this morning, and as the reporter is talking about the 2ft of water that was rolling down the street, a SUV came rolling through …

Is this the same Fox Reporter that was standing in water above his knees next to rushing water going down the street as the storm surge rolled in? And then walked out, several steps, towards the moving water…

I think several of them are taking way too much risk.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:47 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: gas storage question

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
jimLE wrote:
i always keep my gas cans in the garage.no matter if their full of gas or not..in which the garage is attached to the house…

I grew up doing it that way, but it isn’t the safest thing to do, and gasoline isn’t what it used to be. Today’s gasoline is much more likely to cause an accident than the stuff we had in the 60’s and 70’s. Of course, gas cans are different too. Mine, back then, were not air tight.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: gas storage question

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
jimLE wrote:
i always keep my gas cans in the garage.no matter if their full of gas or not..in which the garage is attached to the house…

I grew up doing it that way, but it isn’t the safest thing to do, and gasoline isn’t what it used to be. Today’s gasoline is much more likely to cause an accident than the stuff we had in the 60’s and 70’s. Of course, gas cans are different too. Mine, back then, were not air tight.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:24 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
I don’t know if this would give us any protection, a couple years back I was losing computers and appliances so had
the electric utility put a whole house surge protector on our house, its $2.99 a month, have had no problems since.

Would this help or is it beyond something like that?

Nothing is guaranteed, but it should work for any solar storm kind of event.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
I don’t know if this would give us any protection, a couple years back I was losing computers and appliances so had
the electric utility put a whole house surge protector on our house, its $2.99 a month, have had no problems since.

Would this help or is it beyond something like that?

Nothing is guaranteed, but it should work for any solar storm kind of event.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:55 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

TRex2 wrote:They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. …

Well that is the simple answer.

I was thinking more along the lines of:
“get all the gas you can get, and get on I-95 North, and go as far as you can.
Then go West for an hour. Wait until Jose gets past Florida before going back South.”

Anyways, that is what I would have told them.

I always tell any of my family or friends that are “of means” (I am, but, just barely)
to bug out to twice the distance you think you need to. Or three times.
Let the ones who cannot go that far have the closer places.

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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

TRex2 wrote:They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

The answer is simple: North. They are no different than anyone else in Florida. …

Well that is the simple answer.

I was thinking more along the lines of:
“get all the gas you can get, and get on I-95 North, and go as far as you can.
Then go West for an hour. Wait until Jose gets past Florida before going back South.”

Anyways, that is what I would have told them.

I always tell any of my family or friends that are “of means” (I am, but, just barely)
to bug out to twice the distance you think you need to. Or three times.
Let the ones who cannot go that far have the closer places.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:34 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

The storm isn’t supposed to go through that area so,
unless they are going towards Montgomery AL, they should be OK.

OTOH, they may have a problem finding fuel in some areas.
I think this storm is going to cause more spot shortages throughout the Carolina’s.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:44 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 9, 2017 TRex2 0
Mollypup wrote:
Oldest daughter & family may be fighting evacuee traffic to get home from Myrtle Beach.

The storm isn’t supposed to go through that area so,
unless they are going towards Montgomery AL, they should be OK.

OTOH, they may have a problem finding fuel in some areas.
I think this storm is going to cause more spot shortages throughout the Carolina’s.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:44 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 8, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:So, what happens to the people who are already at the hotel in Disney World? I know a lot of moms in my Facebook group, who live in Florida, were evacuating to Disney because they are so sure they will be well taken care of.

I take it these women aren’t preppers. “They are so sure they will be well taken care of,” is not the mindset of preppers. Sounds more like sheeple to me!

They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:55 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Atlantic (Hurricane Irma)

September 8, 2017 TRex2 0
anita wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:So, what happens to the people who are already at the hotel in Disney World? I know a lot of moms in my Facebook group, who live in Florida, were evacuating to Disney because they are so sure they will be well taken care of.

I take it these women aren’t preppers. “They are so sure they will be well taken care of,” is not the mindset of preppers. Sounds more like sheeple to me!

They may not be preppers, but right now, they need to be told where to go. (That doesn’t sound right) If they haven’t found a place to ride this out, the nearest place may be outside of Florida, and it is already past time to be gone.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:55 pm


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: gas storage question

September 7, 2017 TRex2 0

Illini Warrior is half right.

I don’t know you, so this may be low balling your skill level.

If your mylar bags are properly sealed (with a thermal seal and completely air tight, not just taped) , and the gas is in an air tight container (approved gas storage cans, that don’t “hiss” when near full, and physically squeezed), then you would be OK. But if anything goes wrong, then yes, it will taint your food stores.

If your packaging and gas cans meet the above, and if you have no other place to keep the gas, keep the gas and food separated, and insure the building is ventilated.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 7, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
There are a lot of facts that I have checked over time, fox never covers or reports it. I don’t know why, they
don’t want you to know or just afraid if folks hear the truth they may abandon them. It’s probably different
reasons but I want to actually know whats going on, right, left, or middle.

There may be things on the right that they may think the public is not ready to hear, and therefore omit, but if they ignore something on the left, it is more likely than not, fake news.

Here is how I think the MSM comes up with stories that aren’t on Fox:
How do the Chicago Tribune, Huffington Post. NYTimes, Washington Post, CNN and NBC each come up with a story to embarrass the Trump administration, each with 5 anonymous sources?
Well, it starts with a representative from each all in one room, making up stories…

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:12 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 7, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
There are a lot of facts that I have checked over time, fox never covers or reports it. I don’t know why, they
don’t want you to know or just afraid if folks hear the truth they may abandon them. It’s probably different
reasons but I want to actually know whats going on, right, left, or middle.

There may be things on the right that they may think the public is not ready to hear, and therefore omit, but if they ignore something on the left, it is more likely than not, fake news.

Here is how I think the MSM comes up with stories that aren’t on Fox:
How do the Chicago Tribune, Huffington Post. NYTimes, Washington Post, CNN and NBC each come up with a story to embarrass the Trump administration, each with 5 anonymous sources?
Well, it starts with a representative from each all in one room, making up stories…

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:12 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 7, 2017 TRex2 0
theoutback wrote:
I agree, it’s a little too early to get too exercised, but I did hedge my bets. Went down to home depot and bought another metal trash can, some more batteries, more water and some chlorine. I had bought a new weather radio and another Boefeng radio I want to (try) to protect. I had to take this pretty serious as Ben does not normally say some of the things he said, quite a departure from his normal daily feeds.

Our daughter came by, so we went though things w/ her and texted our son. She did get the implications should this turn out to be bad and took things very seriously. We sent her home w/ a 1 week bucket and a case of water. I also sent Ben’s feed to others.

Great dry run if nothing else!

Metal trash can is way overkill for protection from a CME (only threat to a Boefeng radio would be if it were plugged into a charger, on commercial power, and even that is only a mild threat). But the upsides are that you now also have basic protection from a nuclear EMP, and if that doesn’t happen, you definitely know where your electronics are stored :D

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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 7, 2017 TRex2 0
theoutback wrote:
I agree, it’s a little too early to get too exercised, but I did hedge my bets. Went down to home depot and bought another metal trash can, some more batteries, more water and some chlorine. I had bought a new weather radio and another Boefeng radio I want to (try) to protect. I had to take this pretty serious as Ben does not normally say some of the things he said, quite a departure from his normal daily feeds.

Our daughter came by, so we went though things w/ her and texted our son. She did get the implications should this turn out to be bad and took things very seriously. We sent her home w/ a 1 week bucket and a case of water. I also sent Ben’s feed to others.

Great dry run if nothing else!

Metal trash can is way overkill for protection from a CME (only threat to a Boefeng radio would be if it were plugged into a charger, on commercial power, and even that is only a mild threat). But the upsides are that you now also have basic protection from a nuclear EMP, and if that doesn’t happen, you definitely know where your electronics are stored :D

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:54 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
Not EMP and not Korea. DIL just talked to her aunt in Russia. Her mom was getting ready to take a
trip here to visit she and her sister. Well as of last night apparently no Russians are being allowed to
come to the US. No further information other then she has to turn her tickets back in and its a no
go. Have heard nothing on the news about this. Makes one wonder if its in prep for something little
fat boy is going to do.

She is going to talk to her mom and others and see if that is what is happening.

Lousy to be physically on the wrong side of a war, no matter where your heart is.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:17 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
According to many, the listeners of fox news are the most uninformed in the country.
Big division in Murdocks family, they said when he is gone his kids and wife will not
support all the far right stuff he is. They are fighting it now apparently.

Listeners of Fox News are less likely to swallow the cool aid of lies,
fake news and hateful rhetoric of the Criminal Left,
so the Criminal Left labels them as “uninformed.”

Makes sense to me.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:13 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0

I was looking at the diagram of the solar system in the GIF showing the flares.
I notice the Osiris, Spitzer, and Stereo satellites are on the same
orbital distance as we are. Are they also on the same orbital plane?

Also, Osiris looks like it is in our gravity well. Is it Geosynchronous?

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:37 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0

I was looking at the diagram of the solar system in the GIF showing the flares.
I notice the Osiris, Spitzer, and Stereo satellites are on the same
orbital distance as we are. Are they also on the same orbital plane?

Also, Osiris looks like it is in our gravity well. Is it Geosynchronous?

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:37 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
OK guys…Pretty big update here. Important….

Don’t let it get you worked up too much until we have additional info.

So, by popular request for large bold print…lol…
.WE DONT THINK THIS IS EVEN CLOSE
TO A KILL SHOT FOR NOW…

…Please understand this is not reliable info yet.

I will update ASAP with any credible info…
..For your sanity, please, any videos where you here someone
talking urgently, over-excitedly, screaming, frothing at the mouth, etc..
.Do not let their emotions dictate yours.

Sorry i cant be more specific than that for now but this is an important update
that I had to post….Anything less would be negligent on my part at this point.

Hang in there guys and I’ll update ASAP today.

~D
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:clap:
You are now the #1 Sunspot and CME updater on the Internet! :thumbsup:
:wave:

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:04 pm


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
OK guys…Pretty big update here. Important….

Don’t let it get you worked up too much until we have additional info.

So, by popular request for large bold print…lol…
.WE DONT THINK THIS IS EVEN CLOSE
TO A KILL SHOT FOR NOW…

…Please understand this is not reliable info yet.

I will update ASAP with any credible info…
..For your sanity, please, any videos where you here someone
talking urgently, over-excitedly, screaming, frothing at the mouth, etc..
.Do not let their emotions dictate yours.

Sorry i cant be more specific than that for now but this is an important update
that I had to post….Anything less would be negligent on my part at this point.

Hang in there guys and I’ll update ASAP today.

~D
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:clap:
You are now the #1 Sunspot and CME updater on the Internet! :thumbsup:
:wave:

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:04 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
rickdun wrote:
Whether North Korea can cause an EMP is unknown and is anybodies guess, just like they said North Korea was years away from developing an ICBM capable of reaching the U.S., but here’s an article posted yesterday on the possibility of them delivering an EMP:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/05 … -grid.html

Worthy of the MSM, that report is disappointing, even disheartening from Fox News. She plays fast and loose with wording and the article is designed to whip up hysteria more than to inform.

She makes this statement, but then provides absolutely nothing to support it:

According to Kazianis, an EMP delivered by a nuclear weapon would not just fry power grids but also carry the destructive power of an atomic device.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at an undisclosed location inspecting the loading of a hydrogen bomb into a new intercontinential ballistic missile. (Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP)
“That in it of itself is going to kill thousands if not millions depending on the size of it and where it is dropped.

And the statement “depending on the size of it and where it is dropped” is just nonsense, since and EMP is the result of a nuclear weapon that isn’t “dropped.”

Also, this statement, while true, is extremely deceptive:

Also, nuclear weapons carry radioactive fallout that would be spread thousands of miles through the atmosphere and oceans,” he continued. “We would be adding to such a casualty count sadly for decades thanks to cancer cases that would arise many years later.”

The effect of the EMP on our society would be millions of casualties,
and the cancer, years later, would add a few dozen more casualties.
In fact, depending on the solar winds at the time, maybe none.

I could go on for another three paragraphs, but the point is made.
Fox in no longer as reliable as it should be. They aren’t wholly
communist propaganda, like CNN and NBC, but they are not a good
source for technical subject matter.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:08 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
angie_nrs wrote:
I did a search and didn’t really find much here about the topic of gas masks. I plan on going to a military surplus store later in the week. I don’t have gas masks and am considering a purchase. So I have a few questions that i’m hoping someone here can answer…..

1. What specifically do I look for?
2. What is a reasonable price?
3. How many filters would be prudent?
4.. What types of disasters would a gas mask be used for?

Wow, I didn’t read your opening post very well. My bad.
The acronym I learned was “NBC”
(the Army has, since gone on to a newer, and less useful acronym).
Nuclear – a true NBC mask, filter, and suit will prevent radioactive dust from touching you and keep it out of your lungs. Since your lungs are the most vulnerable, in the short term, a mask with an extra fine dust filter (N95 or better) will give significant protection.
Biological – The primary means for biological agents to enter your body are through eyes, nose, mouth, and damaged skin. The same thing can be said for this as for Nuclear contamination.
Chemical – the difference here is that, while all civilian agents are dispersed as either a mist or a dust (either of which can be filtered out by a N95 mask) certain military agents can be released as a true gas, thus a true activated charcoal filter is a must, when dealing with these.


I also don’t want to “stand out” so to speak. I will pay with cash and I’m hoping the cashier doesn’t ask too many questions as I don’t like making face to face purchases such as this but I also don’t really want to buy online either. How do I make the purchase without drawing attention? Thankfully it is far enough away that they likely won’t know me, but close enough that I may know someone there too.

I don’t know about your neck of the woods, but if you were in a military surplus store here, and were not interested in all sorts of prepper supplies, they would regard you with suspicion :rofl:
On the other hand, your bank has no “need to know” about your preps, so cash is king.

… Anything else I need to consider purchasing while I’m there?

All depends on your threat profile.
(What you expect to have to defend against)
And what you already have.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:56 am


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Natural Disasters • Re: Sun update…CME incoming…Very active sunspot.

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
Just general awareness right now…Not enough info yet.

The southern group has developed very rapidly the last day and intermixing grew fast. Earth facing and has had 3 flares in the M class range today so far and will continue to be active for the next few hours at least.

One CME for sure and most likely not too big but E-spire is not updated yet.

More to come later if significant or watch worthy….

(image clipped)

~D

The trouble is, as best I can tell, that most people were attracted to the image, and let that first statement slip out of their mind. Most people here are not science majors, so, not understanding much of what was written in between, they took this as a warning, rather than just info.

You might want to add the bottom line, in big letters:
This poses a minor to moderate threat to long range communications,
and some satellites, but should give us some beautiful Northern Lights.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:06 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
Straydog wrote:

Bottom line, the satellites cannot be an EMP threat.

Well, maybe. It is clear he has had some help with developing his current “toys”. Who is to say one of the usual players didn’t donate him a few things to play with back then. My thought is your likely correct but part of war is psychological so again, whose to say? :?

Certainly, psychology, and dirty psychology at that, is part of war, which is why I wish I could get my economics guy to stay away from the subject. He is great at economics, but doesn’t understand the games we play. (Well, I used to, anyway. I am retired now.)

While anything is possible, not everything makes sense if you draw the game out to a reasonable conclusion. On the other hand, mutually assured suicide isn’t beyond certain people, one of whom is KJU, and that is why we are concerned about them having nuclear weapons.

Let’s be clear. The only player who owns miniaturized nuclear
weapons and who is not an adversary of N. Korea is China,
so that is the only other player I will address here.

China has been playing this to destabilize our foreign policy, but they know if it actually goes down, they will not emerge intact. So while their game is reckless, I don’t think they are suicidal. China has been giving this guy lots of leash to play with, but they still think they have this under control. I am concerned, because I am not so sure they do have it under control. WW1 was started by a diplomatic blunder (in the months following the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife), among powers that did not want war at all.

For China to remain in control of the game, they must give KJU weapons that keep the region on edge, but they must keep him from actually precipitating war. They know that if KJU actually precipitates nuclear war, they stand to lose half their economy (more or less, and along with, perhaps, a million of their people) which is why they told KJU that if he starts a war with us, he is on his own.

Now, with that last idea in mind, it would make no sense to provide KJU with orbital nuclear weapons. In addition to the above argument, KJU’s launch vehicles were, at the time, unreliable, and that is another reason China wouldn’t have given him such weapons. Had they crashed and we recovered the debris, it would have pointed to them.

Now, maybe we can explore what might precipitate into a real EMP scenario.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:19 am


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 6, 2017 TRex2 0
TRex2 wrote:

This is a thread that is supposed to be about EMP, and I have totally failed to address that here. :shakeno:
Maybe in another post.

Just to get back on the subject of EMP, I have been thinking that the idea that the satellites being EMP devices is pretty far fetched, so I weeded my way thought this (not the first time):
http://ece-research.unm.edu/summa/notes/TheoreticalPDFs/TN368.pdf
And my inclinations are right. To provide a reasonably powerful (from a military viewpoint) pulse requires a relatively powerful nuclear device. When he put those satellites in orbit, he didn’t have a device powerful enough to justify attempting to use it as an EMP weapon. This latest thermonuclear device is powerful enough, but it is the first device powerful enough to be useful at the altitude those satellites are orbiting. In addition, his warheads have all weighed more than three times as much as those satellites are estimated to weigh, since he just didn’t have the miniaturization technology to make them any smaller, until this year.

Bottom line, the satellites cannot be an EMP threat.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:00 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 TRex2 0

If regular tear gas from criminal gangs is your main concern, you might not need a real WMD mask. There are cheaper solutions.

If you are concerned about real NBC warfare, you should know the mask will only be good for a few hours. I always said your best bet is to “mask up” and move out of the contaminated area.

Your experience with your masks in a room full of tear gas means the trainers didn’t know what they were doing. The whole point of the gas chamber is to teach you to quickly put it on correctly, and seal it. Then you go into the chamber, where you stand around talking with one another with no ill effects. Then each of you takes their mask off and gets to experience proof that the mask was working. If your mask didn’t work, the whole exercise was a waste.

Statistics: Posted by TRex2 — Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:44 pm