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General Food Topics • Re: storing food without climate control

April 20, 2017 sageprice 0

Traditional food preserving such as salting, dehydrating and canning all store well in root cellar environments. Don’t think it take a full blown cellar to store preserved food. Larger cellars are good for seasonal crops such as cabbage, apples and squash, jugs of cider and beer store well in the approximate 45-50% degrees of root cellars. Build 2 and make one a cool spot in the summer. :)

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General Food Topics • Re: storing food without climate control

April 20, 2017 sageprice 0

Traditional food preserving such as salting, dehydrating and canning all store well in root cellar environments. Don’t think it take a full blown cellar to store preserved food. Larger cellars are good for seasonal crops such as cabbage, apples and squash, jugs of cider and beer store well in the approximate 45-50% degrees of root cellars. Build 2 and make one a cool spot in the summer. :)

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Guns • Re: Handgun recommendation requested

April 11, 2017 sageprice 0

Hey Bee I was looking for a hand gun for my wife. I was told that I should never pick a hand gun for my wife. This was most adamant among female shooters. I should take her to a gun shop and let her choose. The feel of the grip, the weigh of the pistol, the trigger pull and how it responds to her when she fire it, are all up to her. DO NOT let someone else decide for you. Their choice is ‘theirs’ alone and never yours. Who knows maybe you will want a 45 mag.

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

April 10, 2017 sageprice 0

Marriage is a mutual bonding not a land transfer or a bill of sale. If there is no mutual feeling then the marriage is over. You do posses a human.

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

April 10, 2017 sageprice 0

Marriage is a mutual bonding not a land transfer or a bill of sale. If there is no mutual feeling then the marriage is over. You do posses a human.

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Texas Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Why I Won’t Be Charitable When The SHTF

April 10, 2017 sageprice 0

The books by Linda Runyon indicated that she foraged for 15 years, 7 of which were as vegetarians. Meat is not necessary every meal and if you can’t trap or hunt you are not a prepper. It takes very little energy to set snares and they are very quiet. Be real and stuff your head to survive. Stupidity is not a survival factor.[/quote]

I assume that humor is not part of your intellect. Swamp[/quote]
Sorry swamp I only deal in irony, I find it ironic that people refuse to use their brain to prep. They have their hidden stores and arsenals but fail to think beyond the fact that those are finite. Eventually you run out. I admire those who know how to make gunpowder from scratch, and the difference wild carrot and hemlock. Ignorance is not a prepping excuse. I hope my survivor friends don’t cast a hungry eye my way just because I still have flesh. It will force me to run and wait till they to pass. Survival is a waiting game. He who is last survives, but he who thrives is an ancestor. :floppytongue::floppytongue:

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Texas Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Why I Won’t Be Charitable When The SHTF

April 10, 2017 sageprice 0
daaswampman wrote:
Could be of interest to any of those Real Preppers that might be out there!

New Study Fleshes Out the Nutritional Value of Human Meat

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Why did our early ancestors eat one another? Some scientists say it may have been because they were hungry. But as Nicholas St. Fleur reports for The New York Times, a new study suggests that humans aren’t particularly nutritious and speculates that ancient cannibals had other reasons for chowing down on their fellow bipeds.

At Gough’s Cave in England, for example, archaeologists found a large cache of human bones that showed evidence of defleshing and chewing, Becky Ferreira writes for Vice. The people who gnawed on those bones probably didn’t do so out of hunger; there were plenty of animal remains found within the cave, and some of the human bones appeared to have been marked with ritualistic etchings.

At the Gran Dolina cave in Spain, archaeologists found the butchered remains of 11 children and adolescents, who belonged to the species Homo antecessor. It is possible, writes Erika Engelhaupt for National Geographic, that the youths were “outsiders” and that the consumption of their remains served as a vicious warning to other groups.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new … 180962823/

Is it just me or does this group seem to be getting smaller and smaller? Swamp

The books by Linda Runyon indicated that she foraged for 15 years, 7 of which were as vegetarians. Meat is not necessary every meal and if you can’t trap or hunt you are not a prepper. It takes very little energy to set snares and they are very quiet. Be real and stuff your head to survive. Stupidity is not a survival factor.

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Texas Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Why I Won’t Be Charitable When The SHTF

April 10, 2017 sageprice 0
daaswampman wrote:
Could be of interest to any of those Real Preppers that might be out there!

New Study Fleshes Out the Nutritional Value of Human Meat

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Why did our early ancestors eat one another? Some scientists say it may have been because they were hungry. But as Nicholas St. Fleur reports for The New York Times, a new study suggests that humans aren’t particularly nutritious and speculates that ancient cannibals had other reasons for chowing down on their fellow bipeds.

At Gough’s Cave in England, for example, archaeologists found a large cache of human bones that showed evidence of defleshing and chewing, Becky Ferreira writes for Vice. The people who gnawed on those bones probably didn’t do so out of hunger; there were plenty of animal remains found within the cave, and some of the human bones appeared to have been marked with ritualistic etchings.

At the Gran Dolina cave in Spain, archaeologists found the butchered remains of 11 children and adolescents, who belonged to the species Homo antecessor. It is possible, writes Erika Engelhaupt for National Geographic, that the youths were “outsiders” and that the consumption of their remains served as a vicious warning to other groups.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new … 180962823/

Is it just me or does this group seem to be getting smaller and smaller? Swamp

The books by Linda Runyon indicated that she foraged for 15 years, 7 of which were as vegetarians. Meat is not necessary every meal and if you can’t trap or hunt you are not a prepper. It takes very little energy to set snares and they are very quiet. Be real and stuff your head to survive. Stupidity is not a survival factor.

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Reduce, Reuse, Recycle • Re: Tin Cans: Reuse Ideas

April 5, 2017 sageprice 0

If they are aluminum, put them in a large bottle with lye and produce hydrogen. In stealth situations hydrogen can be burnt without light or smoke. Thus a camp that can not be seen by campfire light or smoke to give away your location. Neat!

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Reduce, Reuse, Recycle • Re: Tin Cans: Reuse Ideas

April 5, 2017 sageprice 0

If they are aluminum, put them in a large bottle with lye and produce hydrogen. In stealth situations hydrogen can be burnt without light or smoke. Thus a camp that can not be seen by campfire light or smoke to give away your location. Neat!

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Top 50 Places To Find Supplies After SHTF

March 30, 2017 sageprice 0

Sheesh! I’m amazed at you guys. First of all, SHTF can be slow like a depression or fast like an EMP. Slow will drain the system dry well before anyone can loot or scavenge. Fast and people will die of dehydration or exposure. Second, removal of law enforcement will bring on chaos, removal of services (water, septic, fire fighters) will mean death by dehydration, disease, fire. Baby, you are on your own. Who you are you going to call when the phone doesn’t work. Can you rip out he plumbing for a PVC bow? Do you know how? True Twinkies will last for ever but who will have a infinite stock of them.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Top 50 Places To Find Supplies After SHTF

March 30, 2017 sageprice 0

Sheesh! I’m amazed at you guys. First of all, SHTF can be slow like a depression or fast like an EMP. Slow will drain the system dry well before anyone can loot or scavenge. Fast and people will die of dehydration or exposure. Second, removal of law enforcement will bring on chaos, removal of services (water, septic, fire fighters) will mean death by dehydration, disease, fire. Baby, you are on your own. Who you are you going to call when the phone doesn’t work. Can you rip out he plumbing for a PVC bow? Do you know how? True Twinkies will last for ever but who will have a infinite stock of them.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Spreading Prepper Mentality—Pros Vs. Cons?

March 29, 2017 sageprice 0

The prepper mentality is one of living well/ frugal and cheap. If your entire prep is in the closet and you talk the talk but not walk the walk. You are no more than closet prepper (that a cousin of the couch potato and the Monday morning quarter back). Where is your knowledge and proven skills. Can you walk out the door right now and survive? Is your grab and go stocked and up to date. Can you live for one season out of your pantry. If your water supply was cut today, could you survive with out begging the local government for a water truck. That is the prepper mind set. CAN YOU BE INDEPENDENT???!!
How do you teach lazy sloths this?

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Gardening • Re: How to best take advantage of forest fire damage

March 24, 2017 sageprice 0

While chemically getting the PH correct does only a little to correct soil fertility. There are several sites about “reclaiming depleted soil”, almost all of them rely on green fertilizer (cover crops tilled back in). The fact that there is plenty of minerals from ash (see “slash and burn agriculture”) means that there is only a little to be added.

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Hunting • Re: The Hunter/Warrior combo, how important is it?

March 15, 2017 sageprice 0

I’m not sure I got my point across. I believe is stealth over rapid fire, in defense over offense, guerrilla over formation.
You can spray the woods with your ARs but your just wasting ammo. Shoot and run means the enemy will waste their supplies, which will be limited by what they carry. Yours are in preplanned in small caches.
Even a 22 is deadly and locating the source is difficult, especially if you have been shooting in your territory at long distances. Remember a head shot is efficient. You are going after a kill not a trophy.
Even loose formations are easier to pin down than scattered guerrilla snippers. Vietnam taught us that, a very hard lesson.
In short, do not go looking for trouble, hide from trouble, and have the home field advantage.

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Knives and Multi-tools • Re: Why a Tactical knife is essential for extreme survivalis

March 12, 2017 sageprice 0

I pack a good heavy hunting knife, not a tactical. I need some thing to pound on and split wood. I never carry an ax or a machete. I’m not trying to build a camp for six people only myself. My pocket chain saw is enough for most large jobs and is quieter than an ax. Let the rambo/ machos run around with a lot of hardware. I’m older and wiser than my foolish younger me. I practice Keep It Simple Stupid. :D

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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: What Class is Your License?

March 7, 2017 sageprice 0

People tell me I have no CLASS. Still after forty years in electronic, I can analyze radio circuits with out a diagram, repair with out an O scope and still read code. My send speed is rusty but if there is a SHTF event the FCC will have a helluva time catching me. Learn the basics you’ll never go wrong.

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Food & Water • Re: how to keep bread fresh?

February 28, 2017 sageprice 0

Sheesh! Fresh bread doesn’t last around my house. It is eaten before it goes stale. I back every third day or so. Mostly I bake what is call turbo bread. It rises overnight and is baked fresh in the morning. I DO NOT need to store it as I do not over bake. Make only the amount you will eat in two days. If it’s a small loaf it’s your Fresh small loaf. If I want a firmer bread, It’s more non-wheat flour than wheat. There are also very good gluten free recipes. The grocery store GF sucks.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Food Chain Too Big To Fail

February 21, 2017 sageprice 0
Gunns wrote:
BS I repeat BS. This is Socialist Progressive nonsense. This planet can grow more food then the human population can consume. We grow more then enough food to sustain over 10 billion people. With improvements already being researched we could grow food for 20 billion easily.

Now just how delicate that balance is, is another discussion. Like stated previously, disruption to the fuel supply would curb that significantly. Our problems are not how we produce our food, its the people.

Gunns is correct. If it weren’t for corrupt politicians and government food would be more than enough for the world. Unfortunately the are alway some who wants to skim a little more profit off the top.

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First Aid & Medicine • Re: Anesthesia – How?

February 18, 2017 sageprice 0

Phzzt! There is a plethora of history of anesthesia. Instead of arguing about it, one should study it. Frequent pulse, Blood pressure, temperature and respiration need to be done when using anesthesia. This is group effort and CAN NOT be done by one lone person. Thus, a trained anesthesiologist. If you are going to pursue this line of thought you can’t just jump in and do it. Ether can kill, Chloroform is riskier than ether and most modern anesthesias are beyond survival capabilities.

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Economic Disasters • Re: So for investors who hold physical gold and silver, 2017

February 17, 2017 sageprice 0

You all think that there will be someone setting a market some where. Phzzt! the first trade will happen when you bump into another surviver like you. As your contacts widen you will agree to set up a meeting place to exchange goods and someone to maintain order. Already you are talking 5 to 10 years. Where are your kings. The bible tells you that KINGS take your wealth in taxes and steals your daughters. You better beware of attracting such a monster with you horde of gold, should you live that long.

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

February 17, 2017 sageprice 0
IceFire wrote:
I buy 50 lb bags of re-cleaned wheat for under $15. Same with oats and barley. Of course, that IS at the local feed store…..

Sheesh! feed wheat is perfectly edible. Learn how to clean and dry it. It makes a hearty loaf of bread and it is what you will be dealing with if we have a TEOTWAWKI event. There will be no special wheats, only what you can get. Learn how to deal with basic grains. Feed wheat can be had for around 10 to 15 dollars at most feed stores. It can be planted/ sprouted/or fed straight to chickens. Rotate it out and you won’t need to store it with special means.

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Economic Disasters • Re: So for investors who hold physical gold and silver, 2017

February 16, 2017 sageprice 0
rickdun wrote:
I’m not disagreeing with you CI, but what if you happen to get shot going into those abandon homes, stores. What if all your supplies are diminshed or die off or stolen and you have nothing for trade but PM’s. As far as change, to get a meal for me and family or get medical attention, etc., when I have nothing else to trade but PM’s, I’m not going to ask for change, I’m going to eat, get some medical supplies, ammo, etc., I’m not going to worry about change, it’s a tip for the ones that I get it from.

We have enough food, supplies, medical supplies, anti-biotics, clothing, coal, firewood, ammo, guns, seeds, chickens, cattle, etc. to last years, but I also have PM’s when it’s all gone or stolen. I may be wrong, but I’m trying to cover all bases.

If after a year and 90% of the population is dead (I’ve heard as high as 99%), then I’ll be one lonely rich guy, if I survive.

If they steal your supply, what to stop them from stealing your PMs or your life?
Gold and silver only have value if you can trade it. If the dollar fails then one gold coin is worth one gold coin. You are not protecting your future you are deluding your self. The value of PM is dependent on what value society place on it. 90% die off, no law, no paper money, very few people to trade with, and they are willing to kill you first. In a massive SHTF event, the three necessities come first. You can talk about getting shot looting, but ten years out when people finally come out from hiding people will trade for things that are not useless to survive with. A good ax, salt, ammo, fresh eggs and sewing needles. Gold will take up to a hundred years to regain its value. In reality gold and silver are only as good as the monetary system. No monetary no value.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: 5 gallon bucket or larger tote?

February 13, 2017 sageprice 0

Since I have chickens, my grain is in constant circulation. I use to have squirrel and rodent problems until I lazily left a bucket of used engine oil out before I re-bottled it to recycle. Next day I found a mouse in it. Disposed of the mouse and went to change the antifreeze. Still being lazy, I left it in an open bucket by the oil, found another mouse in the oil. Huh? A liquid mouse trap. Then I started to find dead squirrels. Were the drinking antifreeze? Well anyway I don’t have any squirrel or mouse problems.

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Economic Disasters • Re: Interesting article on the next few years!

February 9, 2017 sageprice 0

Just to put some ideas in your head;
1. How long will you hold Gold and silver before you can trade it in for the NEW economy.
2. What value will a barter marketer place on your PM when he knows you are hungry and he has no place to cash it in.
3. Will your PM’s gain or lose its value compared a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs. During a depression it gained during an inflation it lost.

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Economic Disasters • Re: A man of wisdom and truth

February 3, 2017 sageprice 0

I have nothing against gold or silver or any precious metal for short term financial disasters but find them wanting in long term TEOTWAWKI events. No mater how soft gold is it still is inedible. I rather have 25 acres of farm than 300 oz of gold. Gold gets radioactive during a nuclear war. During a a super volcano it doesn’t grow crops. You can’t burn it for heat. You can’t put it in a chain saw. When the power goes out during a Carrington event it won’t power your toaster. Yes, it does hold value in market swings, but so does a well stocked pantry. I’m 68 and if my great grand kids have to work for a living all the better that I have a farm. :evil:

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Economic Disasters • Re: A man of wisdom and truth

February 3, 2017 sageprice 0

I have nothing against gold or silver or any precious metal for short term financial disasters but find them wanting in long term TEOTWAWKI events. No mater how soft gold is it still is inedible. I rather have 25 acres of farm than 300 oz of gold. Gold gets radioactive during a nuclear war. During a a super volcano it doesn’t grow crops. You can’t burn it for heat. You can’t put it in a chain saw. When the power goes out during a Carrington event it won’t power your toaster. Yes, it does hold value in market swings, but so does a well stocked pantry. I’m 68 and if my great grand kids have to work for a living all the better that I have a farm. :evil:

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Medical Experts • Re: SHTF Pain Killers?

January 31, 2017 sageprice 0
Pedro wyoming wrote:

Major French wrote:For emergency surgery, you could use starting fluid to put somebody order. It has ether. You could use it for things like dental extraction.

No. starting fluid is MOSTLY ether but also has light aromatic hydrocarbons (VOCs) that are very hazardous to ones health. They target the liver and central nervous system primarily but also cause other problems.
However…
It can be easily manufactured using a variety of methods. The simplest is alcohol condensation. I checked as i was writing this and there are youtube videos on this very subject. The one i watched is simple, safe and straightforward…boil ethyl alcohol and pass the vapour through a hot sulphuric acid bath and then through a reflux condenser. Google reflux condenser, vigreux (sp?) column or packed column. this is the only specialised piece of equipment that is needed. One can easily make this as well once the design is understood.

The only caveat is that ALL heat sources MUST be oil bath electrical. Any spark or flame or even electric coil glowing any shade of red will likely result in disasterous conflagration.

pW

TRY this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z2oE8-uthU Make your own

Statistics: Posted by sageprice — Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:23 pm