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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 27, 2017 RayMac1963 0
terrapin wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:I’m not quite sure how i feel about that statistic.

Ray, I too am not quite sure…
since I don’t believe it. :shakeno:
1/3? :rofl: 1/3 of the entire value of the U.S.?
Is that what you’re saying?

Holy Moly! :crazy:

Well, the quote was actually “1/3 of the U.S. population, but the thread headline cut it off :ouch:

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 26, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Its the chicken and the egg Gunns. You work to “get” stuff, has turned into, you work to pay for the stuff you got. You’re now a slave to the property you think you own, but who is the master and who owns who? The only way to win is not to play.

Say what? I am slave to nothing and no one. I own my homestead. Not to play is to be the fool.

No Guns! i mean you DIDN”T play the consumer game, so you’re not a slave. Hence you retired and are scott free. You won.

Vocal inflection is completely lost on the internet.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich

January 26, 2017 RayMac1963 0
daaswampman wrote:
Money does not buy happiness, but neither does poverty!

I would be happy with a Gregory Baltoro 75 backpack, an Xventure trailer, a Springfield XDS in 9mm, a Honda EU2000 gen set, and a powerful 60 watt folding solar panel and since money can buy me those, I reject your statement Swamp, and adopt my “Alternative facts”. :p

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 25, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:I didn’t say the cant live. But in suburban Detroit a 4 bed room house will cost you 225k easy. Add all the darn property tax on that and you end up with a 1500 to 2000k a month mortgage. Add 500 bucks for lights, gas, water. Property and auto Insurance is gonna cost you 200 a month in a low crime suburb. A family of four cost what, 700 a month to feed. A working couple needs 2 cars, and even a rusty bucket will cost you in repairs so throw 400 in (thats 2 200 dollar car notes) plus 150 for gas.

Now that 98k turns into 8k a month before taxes the 2016 tax rates make that 98 into 69,200, thats 5766 a month. Take away those expenses and thats around 1800 dollars. Sounds great, but baby need shoes, kids need lunch money, save for collage, retirement, Christmas, vacation or something, and a host of other BS that life throws at you… Guess what? Thats middle class.

Its living, but it ain’t rich.

Ya I get that. The wife and I used to collect bottles and hand them in for popcorn dinner.

You gotta work for every penny saved, you’re clipping coupons and shopping sales, and you’re one good illness of a 90 day lay off away from being upside down. Anybody family from 50k to 100k is in that same boat. It gets easier and you can afford more “toys” as you get to that higher end, but thats still a working stiff. I know a lot of plumbers, carpenters, and electricians that are independent contractors that fall in that category, and nobody that drives a pickup truck, and takes a shower AFTER work would call themselves rich. Those families are the back bone of the country.

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January 25, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I didn’t say the cant live. But in suburban Detroit a 4 bed room house will cost you 225k easy. Add all the darn property tax on that and you end up with a 1500 to 2000k a month mortgage. Add 500 bucks for lights, gas, water. Property and auto Insurance is gonna cost you 200 a month in a low crime suburb. A family of four cost what, 700 a month to feed. A working couple needs 2 cars, and even a rusty bucket will cost you in repairs so throw 400 in (thats 2 200 dollar car notes) plus 150 for gas.

Now that 98k turns into 8k a month before taxes the 2016 tax rates make that 98 into 69,200, thats 5766 a month. Take away those expenses and thats around 1800 dollars. Sounds great, but baby need shoes, kids need lunch money, save for collage, retirement, Christmas, vacation or something, and a host of other BS that life throws at you… Guess what? Thats middle class.

Its living, but it ain’t rich.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 25, 2017 RayMac1963 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
“Not going back to women’s suffrage”?? Ray, women have the vote. Look up the meaning of “suffrage”.
Reb

:p I know what it means. But you would think Trump was ready to sign the bill the way some of the pink hats were screaming Saturday. There were a lot of normal Women with real issues looking to be heard, but the cameras found far too many of the extreme feminist. On that note, why did the organizers dis-invite the conservative women’s group just because they were pro life? In my mind, if we agree most of the issues, you’re more then welcome. Stand together! That bit just disappointed me. :shakeno:

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January 25, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I didn’t necessarily mean here Rick. But the radio call in shows amaze me. Its just both sad and funny watching people run to the end zones sometimes, when life really happens around the 50 yard line.

Regardless of what some numbskull son of an appointee says, we are not going back to women’s suffrage. But its true women get about 82 cents on he dollar to what men get, even if that same numbskull doesn’t know the fact. And the government probably shouldn’t be paying for abortions, but that doesn’t mean it should be outlawed. Sure cops stop and harass black men. why, they are programed to see an enemy and a suspect. But that doesn’t change the fact that its idiot a$$ Black men killing each other in Chicago like crazy giving cops good reason to jump to that conclusion. Is a 5 min LEO background check gonna stop any of us from buying that shiny new AR we want? No. Will it keep guns away from hardened criminals? no. But if you’re on the no fly list, I personally don’t want you buying 5.56 at my local Gander Mountain. Has Trump brought out the fringe wackos? of course. But they were quietly sitting in the same room with me when i worked for Bush 43 thinking the same thoughts anyway. Guess what, They are at the Democrat party meetings too.

The darn volume is just turned up way to high. Everyone should just calm down, put on their big boy pants, and work together. Nobody can talk or compromise because they are so busy yelling as loud as they can. Am I the only one that feels like reason has completely left the building…

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January 24, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Cast Iron wrote:
A lot of fear is getting spread around out there. Seemingly normal, rational people have lost all objectivity, and logic.

Man does that sound familiar. How many times in the last 8 years have i heard Obama’s gonna take our guns and make us all live under Sharia law because he is a Muslim.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 24, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:
The top 25% pays the majority and that wage is at $98,000. Top 10% which is still a vast majority of taxes is at $200,000.

So the poor really and majority of the middle class don’t contribute that much.

What is considered middle class? A couple both making 45k to 50k each is living, but they ain’t breaking down no bank doors.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 23, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Yes I have Guns. I backpack with em with the scouts. Don’t tell anyone i said it, but 13 year old boys cook horribly, and they eat anything, and they don’t clean up well. Its worse on the trails with rocket stoves. I usually end up eating a Mountain House if its a hiking camp out. They taste great by comparison.

They are also my only part of my long shelf solution, but all i can do is buy and store. Unlike you guys i, have no land to even begin to plan to grow on. Ya know all those picks of my gear in my yard with the nice greenery, and how i call em “fake woods”. Well THIS is what they look like this time of year. You can see how close my neighbors actually are. When its nice and green, its a good illusion. But its not real bud. SHTF, I’m eating caned goods, and MREs, and Mountain house.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 23, 2017 RayMac1963 0
daaswampman wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:I gave up on my weight set and moved it. That freed up a lot of room so i redid my Prepps room. Maybe i’ll take some pics after i finish.

Did you find them heavy, when you finally them up and moved them? For Sale Treadmill with very low milage! Swamp

Ha Ha, i put in an another room right in the middle of the darn way so i HAVE to start working out on it. :shakeyes:

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 20, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I did notice a spike in the price of mountain house’s buckets on Amazon. I keep em on my watch list, and anytime i need to add an item to get to free shipping i drop a bucket on my list. Yesterday morning I got a notice that they went from 60 to 67 dollars. You ca still get em for 60 bucks from the Walmart site with pick up in store.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Shall we play a game, II?

January 20, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Permafrost wrote:
Either way we would hit up some stores to top off supplies in the first few hours because they will see the usual limited traffic since the “protests” are many thousands of miles away from us, and doing a major resupply for the cabin for next year was on the agenda anyway. That’s actually why I am in town right now, and currently buying supplies. In reality I am sure we would pack up the snowmachines and freight sleds with all they could carry and beet feet out to our cabin. In some ways I am shameless like that and I will use any perceived advantage I have to get my wife to go out to the wilderness with me.

Snowmachines and freight sleds… :shakeno: This guys life right here, puts me shame. :D

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January 19, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Permafrost wrote:
Funny. I never thought of preparedness as a liberal or conservative trait, only a genetic survival mechanism that is stronger in some than in others. I think everybody has both “liberal” and “conservative” tendencies, and they have nothing to do with prepping.

HEY!!! Permas back in town. Hows the homestead! I thought about you when i bought this fleece Balaclava the other day.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 19, 2017 RayMac1963 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
You folks seem to think that all conservatives are nazi monsters. I give generously to worthy charities. I have helped many needy people by myself. Stick that in your liberal pipe and smoke it!
Reb

I don’t know about that Nazi monsters business, but there are a few surly characters in Virginia that served in the Navy that i might wanna keep a weather eye on. :p

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January 18, 2017 RayMac1963 0
handyman777 wrote:
There probably getting a little worried that the new PRESIDENT might cut them off, from all the free stuff and they’ll have to fend for themselves some day.
This should be interesting.

Thats not a good thing. they see something they don’t like just like we do, forget their political perspective. Don’t sell em short like all libs are on some government dole. You’re in Michigan too, I know a LOT of union guys who work darn hard for they’re money who lean left. IF they see something scary, i would keep my eye on it and ask “why”.

Remember who the biggest beneficiary has been of the expansion of the food stamp/welfare support system has been… WALMART!

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 RayMac1963 0
ReadyMom wrote:
4 from PA are NOT going:
Rep. Brendan Boyle (PA)
Rep. Robert Brady (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
Rep. Dwight Evans (PA)

Source: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/17/h … auguration

Somehow we need to turn down the rhetoric. The last 8 years has been way too much. Now, sure Dems have a every right to act a fool. Who can blame them. They can say “you republicans did it” and be absolutely right, can’t argue that fact. How do we ever get back on the same page? Politics made people act like 3rd graders. We all need to grow up and see the other side a little. And the new Commander an Tweet isn’t helping his or the parties cause.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 17, 2017 RayMac1963 0
anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:
Its on a blog made to look like a news site. :rolleyes:

I have no doubt that community organizations are out there rallying up to protest friday, but we don’t need to follow some guy down a rabbit hole with a made up bounty to prove it. There are enough real ones around to make the point.

Go back and look at the company’s website. It doesn’t look like a blog to me. You have to search for the name of the company. It’s chilling what they are doing.

The original link was on Gateway pundent or something. That was a blog. I the era of fake news i question all unknown sources. But the ad is real. Its on a local jobs board that appears to be related to a community paper or something. We have something similar here called the Metro Times. very left wing mostly in politics, but its more arts and entertainment.

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January 17, 2017 RayMac1963 0

THAT is absolutely ridiculous BK. How can they come up with that kind of money? and better yet why? I wouldn’t believe it in my rational mind without links, because it just doesn’t make sense. I humbly stand corrected. :crazy:

On the other hand, we do throw around money in other counties to stir up rebellions with the CIA and other black bag ops… could we be the victim of a larger plot?

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January 17, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Its on a blog made to look like a news site. :rolleyes:

I have no doubt that community organizations are out there rallying up to protest friday, but we don’t need to follow some guy down a rabbit hole with a made up bounty to prove it. There are enough real ones around to make the point.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Shall we play a game, II?

January 16, 2017 RayMac1963 0
daaswampman wrote:
“Oh, it ain’t that bad here. For the most part, if you know where NOT to go, and more importantly WHEN not to go there, you’re fine.”

Ray: Pause for a moment and think about that! “Oh it ain’t that bad here.” Really? Swamp

I didn’t say it was Shangri-La or anything, but its not “the purge” with armed gangs chasing you down the street trying to eat you. Thats all I’m saying. Media blows it out of proportion to sell papers and ad time.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Shall we play a game, II?

January 16, 2017 RayMac1963 0
daaswampman wrote:
I am hoping for something along the lines of the movie Purge! Although it would be just another day in places like Detroit and Chicago! Swamp

Oh, it ain’t that bad here. For the most part, if you know where NOT to go, and more importantly WHEN not to go there, you’re fine. Sure, you guys hear on the national news about shootings in Detroit or Chicago, or any of the other big cities, but what they rarely say is its at 1 am in some gas station in the hood, or the parties know each other. Smart people stay out of those places. I give you a prime example. We have a contract for fuel with a gas station on 8 mile near my job for the security trucks. Guess who is responsible for going by to pay them weekly? thats right ME! So do i go after work at 5:30 when the crack heads are up and hanging around asking to pump gas for change? HECK NO! I go a 7 am on the way in when the place is empty. Yes, I’m carrying, but the best way to win a gun fight is not to be in one in the first place. Now, breaking in your house or building, or stealing your stuff out of your car, thats a different story. That happens anytime.

But to Cast Iron’s question, any real protest will be limited in geographical scope no matter what. There simply aren’t enough people for it to be wide spread. Look back at the 68 riots. As scary as they were at the time for the country, you could fit all the “action” here in Detroit in less then a square mile. Detroit is about 150 square miles FYI… Thats the same for the other cities that had disturbances. 99% of us are in no real danger. What that WOULD be is a perfect opportunity for is some kind of martial law, and an excuse for a power grab by the feds. I wouldn’t would worry about the Snow flakes so much as i would worry that about a knock on the door and some police standing there with a sack of 4473’s with my signature on them.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Mollypup wrote:
No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

Molly, that is exactly what I’m hoping is the opportunity. This is “borrowed power”, and they all know it. In 4 or 8 years it goes back to the people to be interested to someone else. The ONLY way to have any lasting impact and to write you name in the record book is to do an amazing job and make things better for the people. Anybody know who Nixon’x education Sec was? or Bush 41s Commerce sec? how about Clintons Health and Humans Services? Its easy to get lost in history. I’m hoping ego will drive them to excellence.

But to be on the safe side, i’m doubling my food storage…

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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Mollypup wrote:
No, these ultra wealthy folks (I’m not including Ben Carson as he can’t be classified big business type) can’t be bribed with cash, but they can be bribed with power, which is what Trump just handed them.

I’m determined to give Trump a chance. But I’m going to be honest that I hope & pray we haven’t just hopped out of the pot straight into the fire. :blink:

Molly, that is exactly what I’m hoping is the opportunity. This is “borrowed power”, and they all know it. In 4 or 8 years it goes back to the people to be interested to someone else. The ONLY way to have any lasting impact and to write you name in the record book is to do an amazing job and make things better for the people. Anybody know who Nixon’x education Sec was? or Bush 41s Commerce sec? how about Clintons Health and Humans Services? Its easy to get lost in history. I’m hoping ego will drive them to excellence.

But to be on the safe side, i’m doubling my food storage…

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Prepper Clothing

January 13, 2017 RayMac1963 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I can vouch for 5.11……Really good fit, durable, mobility on the range in all sorts of courses/IDPA/3-gun/Kill house comp etc….Hiking too.

Lbs. for Lbs., fit for function, best spent $$$ IMHO…

Then again, they’re also know amongst lots of shooters as the “Shoot me first” pants…… If your in a gunfight and see someone in 5.11’s, you better shoot them first….lol

i second Driven’s statement. 5.11 is most of my training and SHTF clothes. I also would look hard at what the hikers and backpackers use. Been looking at what the thru hikers that do the Appalachian trail here use. They focus on light, durable, flexible gear and clothing. I kind of take a look at how i dress this issue here…

http://urbanprepperdiary.blogspot.com/2 … world.html

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Prepper Clothing

January 13, 2017 RayMac1963 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
I can vouch for 5.11……Really good fit, durable, mobility on the range in all sorts of courses/IDPA/3-gun/Kill house comp etc….Hiking too.

Lbs. for Lbs., fit for function, best spent $$$ IMHO…

Then again, they’re also know amongst lots of shooters as the “Shoot me first” pants…… If your in a gunfight and see someone in 5.11’s, you better shoot them first….lol

i second Driven’s statement. 5.11 is most of my training and SHTF clothes. I also would look hard at what the hikers and backpackers use. Been looking at what the thru hikers that do the Appalachian trail here use. They focus on light, durable, flexible gear and clothing. I kind of take a look at how i dress this issue here…

http://urbanprepperdiary.blogspot.com/2 … world.html

Statistics: Posted by RayMac1963 — Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:54 am