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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 6, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6vSIOh7Sk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYkvZodBRuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD7QfC0Xjwk

Many more if you look.

“I suspect that there’s not a president in our history that hasn’t been subject to these protests,” he answered. “So, I would not advise people who feel strongly or who are concerned about some of the issues that have been raised during the course of the campaign, I wouldn’t advise them to be silent.” – Obama

No other president in my memory has had riots and violence like this. Read between the lines, he is endorsing violence.

OK the first two are absolutely nuts and should be locked up. Hell, i’ll stand guard. The third, isn’t advocating killing anyone, But i guess you never got so frustrated with someone that you thought or said “lord help me not strangle the sh-t outta this fool”… but yes its in poor taste. The forth is Oprah… Seriously? And she is talking about change in society and how some old people are so steeped in racism and prejudice that there is no changing them even, and the ONLY way for the country to move beyond is for them to die because they will never change.

This man is Bull Connor, and YES he was a Democrat and a segregationist, he was head of Public Safety in Alabama, and was famous for turning dogs and fire hoses on black civil rights protestors. He is the kind of person Oprah was talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor

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Ya want me to pull up some KKK vids for ya? We all know there are extremes. I’m talking about people at least somewhere near the bell curve.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 6, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:
Then you are blind. I see the left saying it all the time on videos. Resist, fight, kill, all whites must die, etc, etc, etc.

What do you think Loretta Lynch’s last video is really saying? Its saying to fight, rise up, destroy and riot. She doesn’t use those words because she is a lawyer. But that is what she means.

Bottom up Top down and I still think you don’t see it yet. But you will, but I hope its in time.

OK, i have NEVER seen that anywhere. I sure some wack job somewhere might say it, but that would have the same legitimacy as James Yager, or any of a dozen more i’ve seen ready to go to war over a simple background check.

And Lynch was clearly speaking in reference to the civil rights movement. Its simple, what did she say, not what some conspiracy theorist wants to make her words into with code word talk and suppositions on his radio show…. “all whites must die” :rofl::rofl::rofl: Seriously ? Find someone saying that, and i’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with you to put a stop to that bullsh-t!

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 6, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Cast Iron wrote:
The civil rights movement at the time was a good and just cause.

This?

What to make of it?

As Mollypup stated, both sides can be just as bad when caught up in the mob mentality.

As for Trump rallies or support? It seems there are Trump supporters who have grown tired of the Left and their protests.
On one hand that is their right, both the Left and the Right to protest or rally respectively.
On the other, is it adding anything constructive to the situation?
Probably not.

Loretta Lynch’s statement only exacerbates the problem.
And reaffirms my previous statement about both sides believing their cause is just and right.

Nothing good will come of this.

People said the same thing about civil rights movement at the time. Its only good now. In retrospect. But read through this thread, and you see what i mean by “out over our skis”. Other then the same black hood guys that show up a protests (who appear to be paid, bussed in, and could very well be paid by the right wing as early as Soros’ crowd) there hasn’t been any real violence. Protest, resistance, disruption at town halls, marches… OK, Democracy is advance science. It ain’t easy, and it takes work. But I see the same on Facebook i do here, all my conservative friends are batshit waiting for armed revolution ready to pull out their modern muskets and go to work, but i don’t see the left saying that. Just us. Folks need to keep prospective… “oh the left is just use they are losing control”. The same thing was said about the RNC not to long ago. Politics is an ebb and flow game. I’m betting we’re distracted with BS, while some real things are happening below the surface.

Just like Patriot radio on satellite radio has Mark, Rush, and the rest, there is a Progressive station down the dial. Both are WAY to the right/left of Fox or CNN. It just seems were so stuck in our own echo chambers we can’t hear each other anymore. THATS the true danger.

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Guns • Who else has a Hipoint 995?

March 5, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I know someone else besides me has one of these butt ugly planet of the apes guns, I just don’t remember who. Anyway in late night wanderings on the WWW i came across these guys. https://www.redballsports.net Apparently they made a 20 round mag that is actually approved by Hipoint and won’t void your lifetime warranty. Not the prettiest girl at the dance, but neither is the 995 sooo….

Anyway, i pulled the trigger on some.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 5, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Cast Iron wrote:
The Left calls them fascists.
The Right calls them snowflakes.

And both sides think they are right.
Or fighting for America.

That is actually a point that seems to been lost today. People get so caught up in thinking from their view point that they come to believe the opposing view is evil.

People that support the ACA don’t want to take everyones money. They just think that in the most advanced and powerful country on the planet healthcare would be something everyone would have. Simultaneously, people who want the ACA repealed and think they can best manage their money and health and simply want small unobtrusive government actually don’t want to actually see people suffer and die. Somehow its become the thought that if we don’t agree you must be evil. What happened to the era of a civil disagreement of ideas with the knowledge that we all wanted good.

I do find it ironic that the same people who are anti abortion and say life begins at conception and all life is precious, are completely ok with people who die from things we have prescriptions for but can’t get because of access to healthcare. :bored:

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Guns • Re: Remington 700’s

March 3, 2017 RayMac1963 0

That show/investigation (call it what you want) was on again last night. I only caught the last 5 min, but i set my DVR to get an upcoming showing. I think it was going to be on CNBC Saturday or Sunday if anyone is interested. The important part is they give the code to know which trigger kit was used in the gun. Thats important because apparently they were making both types for a number of years, so you can’t just go by the production date. I still want a 700, i just want to be able to make sure i get the right X-Pro trigger.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 3, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Cast Iron wrote:
During the past administration, I have seen a number of people claim they are ready to fight.
Fight who? was my first question.
Fight how? was my second.
My one co-worker ranted and raved about the “gun grabbers,” coming for everyone’s guns.
He could never tell me who these people were, other than Obama, as if Obama was personally coming for his guns.

:shakeyes: Talk like that got James Yager in a whole heap of trouble. I bet they STILL are watching him.

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Guns • Re: The 9 vs 40 debate

March 2, 2017 RayMac1963 0

9 wins. Why? Because i already have 9s and a whole bunch of stored 9mm ammo, so i’m too far down the 9 path to even listen to your rational argument. so 9 wins…

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Gardening • Re: Less than legal plants

February 26, 2017 RayMac1963 0

SHTF the LAST thing you want to be is impaired in any way shape or form. Alcohol, drugs, pot, whatever… Yeah, some people are going to have a hard time dealing with the stress. But it will be “deal with it and adapt, or dig a hole”.

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Gardening • Re: Less than legal plants

February 26, 2017 RayMac1963 0

SHTF the LAST thing you want to be is impaired in any way shape or form. Alcohol, drugs, pot, whatever… Yeah, some people are going to have a hard time dealing with the stress. But it will be “deal with it and adapt, or dig a hole”.

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Guns • Re: Remington 700’s

February 20, 2017 RayMac1963 0
donba wrote:
Don’t sweat it RayMac Buy another Glock…. :D:D

You joke, but i have to fight myself not to got to the gun show this weekend. Glock 17s are my Catcher in the Rye :unsure:

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Guns • Re: Remington 700’s

February 20, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I remember seeing this on TV. I thought it was old news and they were showing a rerun. I need to add a bolt action and the 700 was on my short list. Maybe i need to scratch it off…

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Economic Disasters • Re: So for investors who hold physical gold and silver, 2017

February 19, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Swamp, you point out a significant divergence in this discussion. There are clearly two situations. One is a common man, day to day application of metals as part of prepping. Then there is the “investment” (for lack of a better word) side. If you want safe harbor for years of labor or wealth protection, then you have to hold some metal. And not the crap gold certificates in some fund, i mean silver and gold in your possession. I would even go so far as to say some in a back vault, but some in your OWN safe or vault. IF i had a few mill, you can bet you last can of beans some of it is going to be in gold. And not in gold coins or bars the government knows about, so they can’t confiscate in with some emergency action crap.

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Economic Disasters • Re: So for investors who hold physical gold and silver, 2017

February 16, 2017 RayMac1963 0
Gunns wrote:
Its not about the allure. Its about those people that have a life times of savings to protect. You can only buy so much prepper stuff. Bullets fail, rifles rust, food goes bad, water gets old and medicines age. But PM’s will always maintain there worth.

I would adjust that to “some” worth. Anyway, i kind of agree with Cast on this one. The only metal i have are Roosevelt dimes. They are trade-able, not easily counterfeited so most people agree on their value, and they are a nice size/value for exchange. I am always adding to my stock, but they are mainly to barter for fuel if i headed south. SHTF, i’m not trusting some joker trying to trade me a gold ingot for a case of MREs.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: What is the first thing a beginning needs to do ?

February 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0

The variety of answers indicates the complexity of this question and how its impacted by your situation. Prepping is like shoes, what fits you perfect may be all wrong for me. IMHO, a beginner needs to take a stock of their situation (of course this will change as they’re knowledge base grows)

Are you urban? Are you rural? whats your disposable income? What are the most likely events you are prepping for? Whats your current skill level in outdoor survival, shooting and self protection, first aid, hunting trapping fishing agriculture, etc… There are some crucial questions and soul searching that need to be asked when someone begins to prep. Sadly, you don’t learn the questions until you’re well on the road. that usually results in wasted time money and effort, but lessons learned.

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Michigan Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everybody

February 15, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Well my HOA ARE evil, but thats not because they are liberal. They are just jerks :p . And you are 100% right there are some very judgmental a$$ hats on that side, who don’t mind calling you out of your name. I mostly get into fights about gun rights, but the “how can you be a Republican?” fight is a close second. I never understand how you can agree with someone on 99 precent of the issues, 95% of the solutions, and the other 5% is just in the “How we solve them”, and they be still be so mad at you they can’t listen.

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Michigan Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everybody

February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Reb, i was speaking from a “day to day” political view point. Don’t confuse that with my ideas of what happens in a crisis. Now most liberals i know are generally nice people, but they just don’t see the threats i do, and are not prepared to knuckle up. They aren’t evil, they just honestly think a great big government doing stuff is the answer.

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Michigan Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everybody

February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
Cast Iron, Trump is not the one acting in a fascist manner. It is the far left. Don”t forget, it is their financier, Soros, who collaborated with the
Nazis. The left is trying to link Trump with Russia.

Thats a broad brush you’re painting with there Reb. Saying that is like saying the whole TEA Party was financed by the Koch Brothers. There are a lot ideological people on both ends of the spectrum going to marches and rallies and listening to talk radio out there. And i would venture to say most of them consider themselves patriots wanting the United States to live up to their interpretation of what a great country should be. BOTH ends have been manipulated by a power hungry elite group of people with agendas. THATS who the fight is with. Not the little lady with the picket sign regardless if that sign says “Life” or “Choice”.

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Michigan Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everybody

February 14, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Apache, I was channel surfing and came across a news story on one of those bunker companies out in Texas. The guy said his sales went up 250% when Obama got elected. He said there was a slight lull, but now his sales are up 500%. I think rich people are eagerly anticipating changes on a national level and a roaring economy, but still hedging their bets.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: 5 gallon bucket or larger tote?

February 13, 2017 RayMac1963 0
NJMike wrote:
Ah…1999. I wasn’t a full on prepper then. I was only hoarding champagne for an anticipated shortage. I didn’t have the red wheat issue. All bottles were drank. :)

Pfffft… In 99 i was closer to Tyler from American Preppers then the zen type cat i am now. ;) Getting ready for y2k I have about 5 or 6k into a gas genny system in my garage that completely ran my basement and kitchen (no visible lights above ground, I had ammo and water stacked up but mainly food for a short term siege. I had wood panel barricades for my first floor windows with gun slots, and had glass blocked all my basement widows for security. Time has a way of mellowing your concept of what a crisis would look like. I’m not looking for a fight like i use to.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: 5 gallon bucket or larger tote?

February 12, 2017 RayMac1963 0

Jeff, you got some good advice above. The only thing that you didn’t say that impacts your decision is whats your plan. If you’re rural and are storing to have long term inventory, or is this pre-packed in case of evac? Also, whats your transport in case of evac?

Personally, i use mylar zip bags in 5 gal buckets with gamma lids for long term dry goods. Toss some bay leaves and O2 scavengers in and i’m set. I also use 20 gal totes for survival gear and MREs/Mountain house and other food specifically pre staged in case of evac. I drive a truck so i can carry them, and i only use the 20gal size because i can still carry them from my basement no mater how full. (hence Watcher’s question). My advice, make your plan as flexible as possible based on what you think you may face.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 RayMac1963 0
anita wrote:
Here’s the reality: the democrats slow-walked Jeff Sessions’ vote, so the Dept of Justice didn’t have Trump’s person at the helm when they had to support the order. They ended up with two lower-level attorneys representing them (who knows how they were picked) but my guess is that they were actually obama hacks, with no interest in supporting Trump’s order. Those opposing the order judge-shopped–the 9th is the most liberal court in the country, and overturned about 80 % of the time. What’s chilling is how political the judicial branch has become. Sure, maybe the Trump folks should have realized what would happen, how politicized all of washington and the courts are. I think they are having a bit of a tough time realizing that those within the government don’t want to do what is best for the country.

That ad was sympathetic to immigrants. Sure there might have been a big door, but you didn’t see that in the ad on TV, you had to go to the website to see that. What was on TV was a “poor illegals” message.

Its chess, not checkers. IF you have to wait a week for your guy to get there and properly vet your plan rather then have all this, isn’t that worth it? Heck, get outside lawyers to review it. These mistakes shake confidence world wide when done at the hand of the POTUS. Reality is they F-ed up. Like it or not we have 3, branches of government, you have to play the long game.

And the 84 guys said they meant for the ad to support Trump. He talked about a “big beautiful door”. They had an ad with a big beautiful door. I just telling you what their rep said. Google it.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 11, 2017 RayMac1963 0
anita wrote:

RayMac1963 wrote:Ready fire aim…

Ray, This shows how much the judicial branch has been infiltrated by the left-wing ideologues. This is chilling.

Also, I called 84 Lumber to complain about that ad, BK. I could not believe that 84 Lumber–from Western PA— was promoting illegal immigration.

Chilling my (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth). If you KNOW the enemy is waiting, you don’t walk into the trap. Just a little better planing could have prevented this whole mess. Don’t just blame it on liberals. That a lazy excuse. Trump’s folks didn’t do the work. Its that simple. Of course there was going to be a legal challenge. Who didn’t see it coming.

and why are you complaining to 84? They were trump supporters. Their folks were on TV talking about the ad was in support of the wall and having a “big beautiful door for people to enter the right way” just like Trump said. THATS was the point of the ad. for people to come here right and they would be welcomed.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Newly Imposed Immigration Ban

February 7, 2017 RayMac1963 0

I think what bothers me most about it is I feel like its a ready, fire, aim, move. What good is a temp ban, if the real problem is we need better investigative processes and an integrated background system to vet through. Even worse, were going to stop these people(for a while as Defcon pointed out) but let Saudis just come walking in? Its the Saudi equivalent of snowflakes that pulled off 911, and were the original leadership for these terrorist groups. The ban sounds nice, but its not dealing with the real problem because we like their light sweet crude. And what about enemies who have bounced through two and three European countries first and season themselves, then come here. These are homegrown and seasoned combatants hitting euro cities.

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