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Emergency Communications • Re: Are CB radios still an option?

September 19, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Vetmike wrote:
All well and good but remember that anything you transmit can be picked up by anybody with the right equipment. There was entity called the Army Security Agency and it had the capability to listen in on any sort of electronic emission as well as DFing it. Per FCC regulations, it is illegal for you to encode or otherwise conceal your message so using something like PGP or any other cryptography is illegal. It is also illegal to use brevity codes (eg 6256 means ‘met at Sam’s Place’)
The safest way to use any form of communication is to always act as if someone was listening to your every word. So don’t broadcast: “Joe, you and your convoy meet us at the intersection of Highways 90 and 15 and we’ll go on to the bug out site.” cause someone with illintent will be waiting for you.

I am going to call BS on this one VetMike…. not out of disrespect but with great respect.

I so state because for those who know …there applies a certain amount of “OPSEC” on many things we do and in which we are interested in as preppers.

How much OPSEC is up to the individuals themselves.

There is another aspect to Preppers and thinkers which is not often spoken about …and that is that Preppers as a whole do not like or want to be
“herded” in with the rest of the two legged wildlife….in anything to do with prepping or SHTF…TEOTWAWKI. We will make up our own mind and conduct ourselves accordingly.

Now governments…and what I call…government “whoredom” is exactly the opposite. Governments tend towards constantly “Herding” people while they themselves work to a different tune and standard. History is replete with this evidence and or tale. One size fits all…except for them…government.
This is done by constantly “Herding People.” Crisis management…dissonance…manufacturing a bad guy on which to focus publically manufactured wrath. Fear and insecurity techniques through whoring out the media to control peoples fears and insecurities.

We are talking here in the extreme about survival..not necessarily legal or illegal.

I know sufficient to understand certain aspects of government as “whoredom” ..institutional whoredom in good times or bad. The real read of history indicates that government will barter, sell, or trade anyone’s soul to keep and maintain power and control….full scale insecurity.

We have been told by our founders never to trust government…by binding them with the Chains of the Constitution.

In a SHTF or TEEOTWAWKI…all that legal and illegal stuff goes right out the window. True enough about being monitored or DF’d. I understand that.

I just wanted to put a certain perspective on that..with respect to your position about being monitored and DF’d.

I have been told by certain Olde Timers ..that the safest manner of secure communications is a light and morse code…at night. However that has severe line of sight limitations. But radio..yes…it can be monitored.

We have experimented here with home made horizontal directional antennas…for covering long distances using horizontal polarity and it works well but is not entirely monitor proof.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:30 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Are CB radios still an option?

September 17, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Very interesting post WillProspector,

I have never used these frequencies…for which you have listed here in the MURS band.

151.820 MHz
151.880 MHz
151.940 MHz
154.570 MHz
154.600 MHz

I did, however, plug these frequencies into my Baofeng BF F8HP walkie talkie and they work fine as I cross checked between two of the BF F8P radios. Both of them transmit and receive fine on these frequencies.

What I have done is to program the FRS/GMRS frequencies from storage space 106 to 127 with these GMRS/FRS frequencies.

I am now considering also manually programming into these five MURS frequencies From 100 to 105 storage space/channel.

The limitation of these rigs is that they are FM line of sight transmission. The VHF bands will occasionally go long or “skip/DX” as the term is used..but not for very long and it is not a good thing to count on this for help.

I personally like VHF frequencies and often hook up with my friend across the river wherein we switch to the lower end of the 2 meter ham band to work SSB modes.

But these Baofeng radios put out a bit more power than does the MURS type radios. I do not concern myself about that as Mostly I monitor the FRS/GMRS frequencies and soon the MURS Frequencies as well.

You have me thinking also about putting these frequencies into my VHF/UHF rig which is a Wouxan UV920 p radio.

https://www.amazon.com/Wouxun-KG-UV920P … Fvhf+radio

I ve not used this radio in some time now ..opting instead for using my Icom 706 MK II and also my Yaesu FT 890.

Both this Icom and Yaesu radio have been modified to transmit straight through all the bands including the CB bands. I particularly wanted the CB bands accessable in all the modes available on these radios.

But I have never considered the MURS bands …but now that you have provided the frequencies I will program them accordingly. Mostly I will monitor them as do I also on the GMRS/FRS frequencies. Here locally the GMRS frequencies seem want to be used by the schools and also some Hotels and olde folks homes.

I have built my own J pole antennas to use on the VHF/UHF frequencies and they work fine. Also I have the adapters for these walkie talkies that I can hook them up to a dual band magnetic base mobile antenna in my cars, truck, and van. This works out fine verses a full sized VHF/UHF Mobile radio.

Nonetheless …thanks for the frequencies. I did not know that information’s prior to your post.

A very 73 to you and your house,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:18 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

August 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Follow up to the op..from back in February.

My friend out in Tennessee and I have hooked up many many times since and work both the 160 and 80 meter bands. Of current…the 160 meter band tends to have more static crashes that 80 meters and we planned for this.

The last time …Saturday…for which we worked 80 meters the static crashes and noise level got bad there and we ran a bit of power from our amplifiers. I stuck to about 200 watts..and he to about 400 watts. This got us above the noise level which was all we needed. We have more power but this was sufficient for our needs and we are also working in the lower end of the Phone spectrum in the Extra class portion of the frequency allocation on 80 meters. This gets us away from most of the traffic out there. We are not into bumping heads with other Hams.

It has been great being able to hook up so and not run up our phone bills. I was at first doubtful as to how well it would work but my friend was not.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:34 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

August 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Follow up to the op..from back in February.

My friend out in Tennessee and I have hooked up many many times since and work both the 160 and 80 meter bands. Of current…the 160 meter band tends to have more static crashes that 80 meters and we planned for this.

The last time …Saturday…for which we worked 80 meters the static crashes and noise level got bad there and we ran a bit of power from our amplifiers. I stuck to about 200 watts..and he to about 400 watts. This got us above the noise level which was all we needed. We have more power but this was sufficient for our needs and we are also working in the lower end of the Phone spectrum in the Extra class portion of the frequency allocation on 80 meters. This gets us away from most of the traffic out there. We are not into bumping heads with other Hams.

It has been great being able to hook up so and not run up our phone bills. I was at first doubtful as to how well it would work but my friend was not.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:34 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

August 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Follow up to the op..from back in February.

My friend out in Tennessee and I have hooked up many many times since and work both the 160 and 80 meter bands. Of current…the 160 meter band tends to have more static crashes that 80 meters and we planned for this.

The last time …Saturday…for which we worked 80 meters the static crashes and noise level got bad there and we ran a bit of power from our amplifiers. I stuck to about 200 watts..and he to about 400 watts. This got us above the noise level which was all we needed. We have more power but this was sufficient for our needs and we are also working in the lower end of the Phone spectrum in the Extra class portion of the frequency allocation on 80 meters. This gets us away from most of the traffic out there. We are not into bumping heads with other Hams.

It has been great being able to hook up so and not run up our phone bills. I was at first doubtful as to how well it would work but my friend was not.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:34 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

August 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Follow up to the op..from back in February.

My friend out in Tennessee and I have hooked up many many times since and work both the 160 and 80 meter bands. Of current…the 160 meter band tends to have more static crashes that 80 meters and we planned for this.

The last time …Saturday…for which we worked 80 meters the static crashes and noise level got bad there and we ran a bit of power from our amplifiers. I stuck to about 200 watts..and he to about 400 watts. This got us above the noise level which was all we needed. We have more power but this was sufficient for our needs and we are also working in the lower end of the Phone spectrum in the Extra class portion of the frequency allocation on 80 meters. This gets us away from most of the traffic out there. We are not into bumping heads with other Hams.

It has been great being able to hook up so and not run up our phone bills. I was at first doubtful as to how well it would work but my friend was not.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:34 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Are CB radios still an option?

June 30, 2017 orangetom1999 0

A suggestion , If I might…..

A peaked and tuned radio is fine…for sure.

However…there might come conditions in a SHTF situation where you do not want to leave a peaked and tuned fingerprint…or running so much power that you stand out all across the country or country.

With this in mind it is often nice and convenient to have a variable resistor installed in line by which you can adjust your out put power up or down as needed. This no matter how powerful your final transistor puts out the watts. In this manner it us up to you as to how big a fingerprint your rig leaves in the airwaves.

This is common on most HF Ham radios and I have seen CB’ers who have incorporated this feature into the backs of their rigs.

You might not want everyone to know you are there by leaving a huge amount of power…a huge fingerprint …to let everyone know you are there.

For those of you who know how…a directional antenna and adjustable power are optimal….and for those who know even more….the ground plane of your vehicle and how to use it to your best advantage helps as well…with adjustable output power. In otherwords the transmitting pattern of your mobile set up..how and in what direction your mobile antenna transmits the best.

This no matter what bands on which one operates.

Just a passing thought.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:57 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Are CB radios still an option?

June 30, 2017 orangetom1999 0

A suggestion , If I might…..

A peaked and tuned radio is fine…for sure.

However…there might come conditions in a SHTF situation where you do not want to leave a peaked and tuned fingerprint…or running so much power that you stand out all across the country or country.

With this in mind it is often nice and convenient to have a variable resistor installed in line by which you can adjust your out put power up or down as needed. This no matter how powerful your final transistor puts out the watts. In this manner it us up to you as to how big a fingerprint your rig leaves in the airwaves.

This is common on most HF Ham radios and I have seen CB’ers who have incorporated this feature into the backs of their rigs.

You might not want everyone to know you are there by leaving a huge amount of power…a huge fingerprint …to let everyone know you are there.

For those of you who know how…a directional antenna and adjustable power are optimal….and for those who know even more….the ground plane of your vehicle and how to use it to your best advantage helps as well…with adjustable output power. In otherwords the transmitting pattern of your mobile set up..how and in what direction your mobile antenna transmits the best.

This no matter what bands on which one operates.

Just a passing thought.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:57 am


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Guns • Curved verses Straight triggers for the AR Platform

June 9, 2017 orangetom1999 0

I just found out, via some fellows at work, that there is a straight type drop in trigger assembly available for the AR platform.

I have been reading some of the comments and experiences with this kind of trigger verses the curved triggers and decides that with such a good cross section of experienced shooters and reloaders on tis board that I would pose the question here…as was the case with the inquiring and finally the purchase of my Rock Chucker extra heavy duty reloading press.

By the way ..I have zero regrets with the purchase of the Rock Chucker press and it has turned out to be as advertised. The moniker fits perfectly for this press.

Now…If any of you have or have had experiences with these new fangled straight triggers….I would be interested in your experiences and preferences..why and so forth.

While I am in no hurry to make this purchase…I would like to know what are the experiences and thoughts on this product.

I currently have the standard issue trigger on my platform.

However..I have used both rifles and pistols with good triggers and I can tell you …such can ceratainly spoil you and it is noticeable when one returns back to a standard military grade trigger.

I should tell the members that the most sensitive trigger I have ever used was on a 30.06 caliber hunting rifle …a sporterized WW2 Mauser modified with double set triggers. When you click the set trigger…it sets up the firing trigger somewhere incredibly light. If you are not very very careful…you will have a premature discharge because you are not prepared for how incredibly light the set trigger pull really is. Now that is a bit too light for me..but it illustrates what can be done with a trigger. Even my double set 50 caliber black powder trigger is not that sensitive.

Well…nonetheless …any members with experience and opinions in the new fangled flat triggers???

My thanks in advance…

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:54 am


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Guns • Re: The internet is our greatest ally

May 28, 2017 orangetom1999 0

CNN…..Wow!!

For over 30 plus years now…some of us have called CNN…..Chicken Noodle News. We knew what it was way back then.

While Fox is better than most…I still do not trust them…as I know there are certain avenues of thinking for which they dare not go ..or allow..encourage. So too it is with the El Rushbo..and others in the talk show genre.

As to the news networks becoming soap operas…some of us have begun to describe this eroding of the networks at becoming Tabloid like. Very much like the Pulp magazines and cheap thrill newspapers at the check out stands at the drug store or Wally World.

More and more tabloid like….Jerry Springer like…Phil Donahue like….and less and less true reporting.

Point noted here Rickdun.

Well said (actually) Swamp, we’re our worst enemy. A lot of the internet is fake, like the hair color and teeth in the mouths of our politicians.

Here too Swamp

For every bit of truth there is an ocean of lies! We are seeing it in the endless commentary about Trump. I believe in free speech and I believe you should be held accountable for every word you say.

Considering our current behavior, we will soon loose the First for our own survival! Swamp

Gentlemen,

I too like Hickok 45 and his videos. I did not however…know that he was at one time under censorship..by the web. Thanks to the poster who brought this up. I am apparently not up to speed on these events.

I do not like censorship though I know that there is a lot of pure 24 carat garbage out there. I don’t want anyone telling me what I can or cannot watch, listen to, or read. My main problem is that someone out there wants to herd me into the dead, inert, blandness which passes for knowledge and entertainment today. Not interested. In particular I do not like the PC which is trying to pass for thinking, knowledge, and even entertainment. I will do my own thinking and make up my own mind…thank you.
I am just not interested in being herded as such…or if you prefer….”Gaslighted as such!!”

Talk about a whole load of “Flatulence!!” That is what I think of much of the news, public education, much of leadership today…and both political parties. Also much of what is trying to pass for history.

You readers don’t have to buy into that but it is my personal view.

My mad musings and personal .02,

Orangetom

A post script here …

I am a licensed ham radio operator..but for many many years and before getting my license I operated a short wave listening radio by which I was able to tune in the world from an olde copper wire strung out back to my clothes line pole.
When foreign radio stations would broadcast in English I was to learn bits and pieces of news and information which never got into the main stream news here in the states.
This was before home computers and what happened was that I was , over time , able to realize a mosaic big enough to see that there was even back then a heavy paper curtain over this country and a supposedly free people. Most Americans did not have a clue that this was going on.

I had also a friend who went to work for the Richmond Ledger and RichmondTimes Dispatch in their night maintenance while he went to school in the daytime for his degree. He told me how many of the stories which came in via independent reporters or over the wires …never were printed or allowed out into the public because of the slant of the editors.
This further confirmed my suspicions about the rigged news and information markets.

I continue to carry, in my daily BOB, a small portable short wave set, battery operated, with Single Sideband Capabilities. Also spare batteries for that radio daily. A ham walkie talkie as well. 2 meter/70 CM. When I am not busy and away from my base station I listen to this radio world wide…as well as what many of the hams are thinking.

Many of the hams out here are disgusted with the MSM and are also in support of that fellow in Montana who body slammed that reporter.

Short wave listening has not ceased with me even though I have this computer. With continued censorship I think it will become even more important.

Talked to my friend out in Tennessee for about 45 minutes on my ham radio this evening. Hope to hook up with him again tomorrow night…distance of some 400 miles from here. We talked about what happened in Montana.

Again my .02,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 9:07 pm


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Guns • Re: The internet is our greatest ally

May 28, 2017 orangetom1999 0

CNN…..Wow!!

For over 30 plus years now…some of us have called CNN…..Chicken Noodle News. We knew what it was way back then.

While Fox is better than most…I still do not trust them…as I know there are certain avenues of thinking for which they dare not go ..or allow..encourage. So too it is with the El Rushbo..and others in the talk show genre.

As to the news networks becoming soap operas…some of us have begun to describe this eroding of the networks at becoming Tabloid like. Very much like the Pulp magazines and cheap thrill newspapers at the check out stands at the drug store or Wally World.

More and more tabloid like….Jerry Springer like…Phil Donahue like….and less and less true reporting.

Point noted here Rickdun.

Well said (actually) Swamp, we’re our worst enemy. A lot of the internet is fake, like the hair color and teeth in the mouths of our politicians.

Here too Swamp

For every bit of truth there is an ocean of lies! We are seeing it in the endless commentary about Trump. I believe in free speech and I believe you should be held accountable for every word you say.

Considering our current behavior, we will soon loose the First for our own survival! Swamp

Gentlemen,

I too like Hickok 45 and his videos. I did not however…know that he was at one time under censorship..by the web. Thanks to the poster who brought this up. I am apparently not up to speed on these events.

I do not like censorship though I know that there is a lot of pure 24 carat garbage out there. I don’t want anyone telling me what I can or cannot watch, listen to, or read. My main problem is that someone out there wants to herd me into the dead, inert, blandness which passes for knowledge and entertainment today. Not interested. In particular I do not like the PC which is trying to pass for thinking, knowledge, and even entertainment. I will do my own thinking and make up my own mind…thank you.
I am just not interested in being herded as such…or if you prefer….”Gaslighted as such!!”

Talk about a whole load of “Flatulence!!” That is what I think of much of the news, public education, much of leadership today…and both political parties. Also much of what is trying to pass for history.

You readers don’t have to buy into that but it is my personal view.

My mad musings and personal .02,

Orangetom

A post script here …

I am a licensed ham radio operator..but for many many years and before getting my license I operated a short wave listening radio by which I was able to tune in the world from an olde copper wire strung out back to my clothes line pole.
When foreign radio stations would broadcast in English I was to learn bits and pieces of news and information which never got into the main stream news here in the states.
This was before home computers and what happened was that I was , over time , able to realize a mosaic big enough to see that there was even back then a heavy paper curtain over this country and a supposedly free people. Most Americans did not have a clue that this was going on.

I had also a friend who went to work for the Richmond Ledger and RichmondTimes Dispatch in their night maintenance while he went to school in the daytime for his degree. He told me how many of the stories which came in via independent reporters or over the wires …never were printed or allowed out into the public because of the slant of the editors.
This further confirmed my suspicions about the rigged news and information markets.

I continue to carry, in my daily BOB, a small portable short wave set, battery operated, with Single Sideband Capabilities. Also spare batteries for that radio daily. A ham walkie talkie as well. 2 meter/70 CM. When I am not busy and away from my base station I listen to this radio world wide…as well as what many of the hams are thinking.

Many of the hams out here are disgusted with the MSM and are also in support of that fellow in Montana who body slammed that reporter.

Short wave listening has not ceased with me even though I have this computer. With continued censorship I think it will become even more important.

Talked to my friend out in Tennessee for about 45 minutes on my ham radio this evening. Hope to hook up with him again tomorrow night…distance of some 400 miles from here. We talked about what happened in Montana.

Again my .02,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 9:07 pm


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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

May 27, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Wow Dan,

($26.99 for 20 rounds was the cheapest I could find…)

Yeah….that is what I found with this 41 Magnum. Locally ammo is in the high 20s to some 35 bucks for twenty rounds.

Once I found out where to get the brass locally I was ok rolling my own.

But that 50 Beowulf is a very unique type of brass In the manner it is made.

Enjoy shooting it. It is indeed a powerful round close up..in close.

Keep them in the X ring,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 2:04 pm


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Guns • Re: .50 Beowulf

May 27, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Wow Dan,

($26.99 for 20 rounds was the cheapest I could find…)

Yeah….that is what I found with this 41 Magnum. Locally ammo is in the high 20s to some 35 bucks for twenty rounds.

Once I found out where to get the brass locally I was ok rolling my own.

But that 50 Beowulf is a very unique type of brass In the manner it is made.

Enjoy shooting it. It is indeed a powerful round close up..in close.

Keep them in the X ring,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat May 27, 2017 2:04 pm


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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: Just returned from the mountain cabin…

May 25, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Gunns,

I like this post. I need to get my crap together and get up to speed on this. I used to have my 1st class license but let it expire decades ago.

Yeah Gunns,

I have renewed my license one time now.

My friend out in Tennessee…and I started out on the CB bands many years ago and have maintained contact. When we both got our Ham Tickets…we discovered that we had both been working on Prepping..and the thinking behind the same.

He knew that when he retired he would be wanting to move back out to the mountains…he never got the mountains out of his blood.

Hence he also got his Extra class ticket. And so too of recent has his wife.

We wanted to know if we could make the trip outside of a computer and or a telephone…land line.

This has been incorporated now into our preps…in particular working the extra portion of the bands wherein it is often less crowded…fewer pile ups.

The cabin experience was more or less a remote experiment away from the base here on the Chesapeake Bay.

The next step is to try it here using an olde car battery and carry on for about 40 minutes…and on the lowest possible setting and also using that same G%RV antenna.

Then again another time using a gas powered generator…to a 13.8 volt power supply. Again on the lowest possible power settings.

I do not foresee any problems but you never know until you try It out and see what adjustments need be made.

Best to try it out now and know for sure..in good times rather than under the gun in hard times.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Thu May 25, 2017 10:11 am


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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: Just returned from the mountain cabin…

May 25, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Gunns,

I like this post. I need to get my crap together and get up to speed on this. I used to have my 1st class license but let it expire decades ago.

Yeah Gunns,

I have renewed my license one time now.

My friend out in Tennessee…and I started out on the CB bands many years ago and have maintained contact. When we both got our Ham Tickets…we discovered that we had both been working on Prepping..and the thinking behind the same.

He knew that when he retired he would be wanting to move back out to the mountains…he never got the mountains out of his blood.

Hence he also got his Extra class ticket. And so too of recent has his wife.

We wanted to know if we could make the trip outside of a computer and or a telephone…land line.

This has been incorporated now into our preps…in particular working the extra portion of the bands wherein it is often less crowded…fewer pile ups.

The cabin experience was more or less a remote experiment away from the base here on the Chesapeake Bay.

The next step is to try it here using an olde car battery and carry on for about 40 minutes…and on the lowest possible setting and also using that same G%RV antenna.

Then again another time using a gas powered generator…to a 13.8 volt power supply. Again on the lowest possible power settings.

I do not foresee any problems but you never know until you try It out and see what adjustments need be made.

Best to try it out now and know for sure..in good times rather than under the gun in hard times.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Thu May 25, 2017 10:11 am


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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: Just returned from the mountain cabin…

May 23, 2017 orangetom1999 0

In case I have not posted this as far as equipment updates…

I have picked up a new Ameritron 811H linear Amplifier. This amplifier is capable of boosting the radio output from 100 watts PEP to some 800 watts PEP.

I wanted to have it on hand in case conditions between me and my friend out in Tennessee get verily rough with static crashes and other noise thusly blocking out his signal.

So far, outside of initially trying it out, I have not used it. We have mostly been running only the power in the radios we have …100 watts or less.

We have even dialed down our power to some 50 watts and still made the trip ..but we think that with the weather warming up….the atmosphere will produce more static crashes along with more summer storms, lightening, thunder etc…all across this nation.

I have this power on tap..but so far we have been trying to use the minimum power we need to make the trip. We have, in particular, been working along these avenues…minimum power needed…but both of us have extra power/linear amplifiers on tap if needed.

We try to find the quieter portion of the Ham Radio bands in which to operate..thus needing less power. We try to avoid the heavily trafficked bands.

Thanks,
Orangetom

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Guns • Re: The internet is our greatest ally

May 23, 2017 orangetom1999 0

While the internet helps many people in their thinking….there is an additional point which was extensively driven home to me during the Obama Administration.

Though this has been forming unto todays position for a long long time..and seems somewhat to be taking a back seat now during the Trump Administration….do not let your guard down…this will return with a vengeance under the logic and reason of todays educated, enlightened, illuminated leaders trying to substitute …ala the olde political shell game….for our rights as Americans.

My point to keep in mind…always…is this…

Internet or not…

If you cannot be trusted with a gun and or ammunition…you will never be trusted with a vote….they will try under “enlightened thinking” to scam the public out of both..and keep them in “Name only. You can translate that as rigging both systems..gun ownership as well as the vote.

In name only you cannot be trusted with your religion…

In name only …you cannot be trusted with your own monies.

In name only …you cannot be trusted with your children…to teach your beliefs and thinking patterns to your children.

Here are five indexes in which you cannot be trusted… and must therefore be properly herded like cattle into the right chutes…programmed…controlled regulated…no independent thinking or actions allowed…only Xerox copies of the same pabulum.

These American principles took a very fast and deep dive into the toilet under the Obama Admininstration…do not ever think that this kind of thing will not come back ..particularly under the pseudo leadership of “Enlightened Educated Illuminated Men.”

I am talking here about standard issue “Herd Mentality” used and misused to rig the whole system against the American People…one size fits all.

It is quickly reaching the point where you cannot be trusted with the internet..and steps are being taken to control and regulate this as well…because it is so obvious that the MSM is not working sufficiently to properly herd the publics beliefs and actions.

To many people are now going to the internet for their news and information..not the Television and Radio..but their phones and computers.
Someone horribly miscalculated the impact of the internet in the last election. Trump like, Jessie Ventura, was not supposed to win.

This is why controlling the internet is so important today.
They are even trying successfully today to break and Herd Fox News. Knowing this for some time….I have not trusted Fox News.

Pay attention and be careful..even of the internet.
Keep in mind what I have outlined as to the obvious items with which you as an American cannot be trusted in your own country…while demanding tolerance from you….as well as your children/grandchildren.

This pattern of operation I am describing by government is a 180 degree flip flop of what the founders envisioned and wanted for the American People.
This pattern of operation I am describing by “Enlightened, Illuminated, Educated Men” is in its reversed nature..run amok..also called by some people in the know..as Demonic. Insane…a reversal of anything and everything…American.

The other proper name for thusly herding Americans against their will and over their objections….in every avenue of thinking and actions…is bondage….involuntary servitude.

And these people now want the internet too….the Deep State.

My .02,

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Tue May 23, 2017 8:51 am


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April 24, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Just got back from a week in a rented cabin up in the mountains near Waynesboro, Virginia.

This cabin is some 12 miles outside of the city of Waynesboro, Virginia …close enough to come to town for the stores and far enough out to be out of cell phone range. No cable tv here. Beautiful up there in the mountains with a stream flowing downhill behind the cabin.

Stopped by the local country store and bought some .22 long rifle. Five boxes …250 rounds. It was some $3.50 per 50 rounds . Later in the week I returned for 5 more boxes and have put them all away.

Carried two short guns with me and carried concealed the whole time we were about town or anywhere. This group at the cabin had three men and one woman who had concealed carry permits. We carried steel with us every time we went about. Not looking for trouble…but this is also black bear country. They occasionally come down and raid the trash cans at the local picnic areas. The trash cans are usually and immediately ceded to them…the picnic areas shut down by wildlife management. But now days we are more concerned with the nature of two legged wildlife…of all kinds…and there were young children with the group.

Carried my favored Ruger GP 100 in four inch barrel…357 Mag….and alternated on occasion with a S & W Model 57 six inch 41 Mag. Speed loaders for both.

The rest preferred to carry 9MM autos of some kind.

I did not see any .22 long rifle in the case at the local Wal Mart. Same thing here locally for years now…back at home…at the local Wal Mart. Haven’t seen any in years here. Occasionally at Bass Pro..but not at Wal Mart.

Wondering if it will become more locally available than in the last 8 years.

Had a great time in the mountains and are planning next years trip to the cabin. Caught some trout and had them for dinner. Trout make for a great meal. Like them even for breakfast with eggs.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:35 am


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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Just returned from the mountain cabin…

April 24, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Just returned from a week in the Mountain Cabin up in the Shenandoah…near Waynesboro, Virginia.

As we rented the cabin for a whole week, I decided to bring a temporary Ham Radio set up.

I brought my switching power supply, a small tuner, and my Icom 706 Mk II G radio….and a G5RV antenna and a roll of RG8 coaxial cable. Also I brought a small fishing pole to cast up and thread a small light nylon rope through the trees by which to hang the G5RV antenna. This antenna was cut for 80 to 10 meters.

We would meet on the Virginia Phone net at 3.947 MHZ LSB and check in …then after the net would go down to the lower end of 75 meters and work in the Extra portion of the band to get away from most of the traffic…somewhere from 3.610 to 3.625 MHZ. This worked out well…and the copy was good.

Later in the week I raised my feed point up about 10 feet and thus got a bit more received signal on my friend out west. He is in Tennessee near Johnson City.

From the cabin I reckon the distance at some 250 plus miles. From my home base station I estimate some 400 miles. Decent copies from both locations. All traffic was at night and after the days events and get togethers had quieted down.
Also let the children see how the rig worked…they are not accustomed to something other than a telephone or remote controller…so it was a learning experience for them.

Oh..and I tried this G5RV on 160 meters but it would not work well..though it tuned up fine. But 75 meters …it worked great.

Rig is now back home on the base station and working fine.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:11 am


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Emergency Communications • Built two roll up J pole antennas yesterday

March 12, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Was intending to re adjust my long wire..Loop antenna for HF bands yesterday but got sidetracked and wound up fabricating two roll up J pole antennas to replace the ones I had given away to new hams who had no external antennas and were using Walkie talkies in their apartments’/homes.

It worked out to be a starter antenna to help them get out and receive better.

I made my antennas out of 300 ohm twin lead…that olde type flat line television antenna wire and also sometimes you would see it as FM stereo wire.

It is fed with RG 8 mini coaxial antenna wire.

The first one I made as strictly a 2 meter J pole tuned in the 144-148 MHZ band and it tuned up well.

I have been meaning to try a twin lead J pole for a dual band purpose ..2 meter and 70 CM…or what also called the 440 MHZ band.

I followed the instructions on U Tube and it worked out well. It is only a few different but critical differences verses the 2 meter only antenna.

Both antennas were able to get into local repeaters..from a height of only 8 feet above the ground.

Here is a photo of the 2 meter only antenna. Going to have a go later on today in adjusting my long wire loop for the HF bands.

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And here is a photo of the same roll up antenna inserted into a PVC tube for more permanent outdoor set up.

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Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:39 am


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

March 6, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Mountain wrote:
My old buddy I grew up with in Nor-Cal have had this plan for awhile ourselves. He was waiting on me to get my General, which I just did. Now I need a radio.
73
KK6MOE

Yeah..Mountain,

Years ago when I had earned my General and Advanced Ticket at the testing session …I too did not even have an HF radio. I only had a two meter walkie talkie and a 10/11 meter rig. It took me some 9 more months to scrape up the funds to get a used Yaesu FT 890. I still have the rig but am running a Icom 706 currently.

Looked you up in the book…you are up there in them thar Hills.

I work in a shipyard and my friend to whom I am speaking retired from there. All the big nuclear carriers are born here in this shipyard. Submarines too.

Getting ready now and headed to the radio roomto try to contact my friend again on 160 meters. Perhaps if you have a receiver…shortwave…with SSB..capabilities you can pick us up. We will be operating somewhere in the 1900 to 2.000 MHZ range…wherever we can find a quiet spot…LSB Mode.

Thanks,
Orangetom

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March 6, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Mountain wrote:
My old buddy I grew up with in Nor-Cal have had this plan for awhile ourselves. He was waiting on me to get my General, which I just did. Now I need a radio.
73
KK6MOE

Yeah..Mountain,

Years ago when I had earned my General and Advanced Ticket at the testing session …I too did not even have an HF radio. I only had a two meter walkie talkie and a 10/11 meter rig. It took me some 9 more months to scrape up the funds to get a used Yaesu FT 890. I still have the rig but am running a Icom 706 currently.

Looked you up in the book…you are up there in them thar Hills.

I work in a shipyard and my friend to whom I am speaking retired from there. All the big nuclear carriers are born here in this shipyard. Submarines too.

Getting ready now and headed to the radio roomto try to contact my friend again on 160 meters. Perhaps if you have a receiver…shortwave…with SSB..capabilities you can pick us up. We will be operating somewhere in the 1900 to 2.000 MHZ range…wherever we can find a quiet spot…LSB Mode.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:45 pm


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March 5, 2017 orangetom1999 0
MrDanB wrote:
After much reading and the opinions expressed here… I’ve decided to wait until a little later this year. If I still want it in the fall, I will go all in with a rifle and a good amount of ammo. No ammo = an expensive club… Thanks for the thoughts on this guys!

Dan,

I’ve done the same thing …waited until the fever burned less hot. It was the case with this 41 Magnum revolver. I took my time and not let it burn all that hard into my conscience so to speak. Once I found out I could get brass locally …that is what got me going.

This one is a very unusual design in that the brass in that the case rim at the primer is smaller than the diameter of the case at the powder charge.

But no doubt about it being a freight train when you need just such close in effects/potential.

Yup …Yup!!! No ammo…just an expensive club. Quite correct!!

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:41 pm


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Emergency Communications • Re: Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

March 5, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Thanks Mountain.

Follow up on my OP. Last night we hooked up again on 1.920 MHZ…LSB….or on 160 meters.

What was different this time is that we decided to check out how low we could take the output power and still maintain communication.

We started at 100 watts, the maximum the rig puts out. We wound up and decided on 25 to 30 watts. Any lower and we realized we would occasionally fade back into the noise level or weeds as it is sometimes referred.

I did not think we would be able to keep comms at that low a power setting but that was a very interesting “lessons learned” last night.

Should we switch to Morse Code when the noise level is much much higher….we now have a sort of reference line off which to follow.

160 meters, for now, has turned out to be quite a surprise.

Now we will be checking out other bands….75 and 60 meters and running the same pattern of power tests.

I have ordered some fuses for my Ameritron 811H amplifier. Plans are to try to keep it around 200 Watts if I can get it once again Q5. I’ve not run it in some years now. I suspect it has a serious case of “Arthritis” from being so long stagnant/dormant.

I discovered that for most of what I want to do 200 Watts is sufficient to get me above the noise level…and that is all I want. And it is plenty for most of the bands using CW or Morse Code.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:27 pm


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March 4, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Exactly Dirk,

Was taking me back imto odd and unusual calibers, something I’ve been trying to get away from.

That was my concern in learning to roll my own for the 41 magnum…the end costs. But I found out I can get the brass locally at the BASS Pro and occasionally get a bag and put it away. Buy bullets in bulk…and also reload Hornady Hollow points and cast lead gas checks. Brass availability was the deciding factor for me here. I’ve put back about 1200 cases to date…Starline.

It is a type of freight train up close, the 41 Mag… but not like the .458…or the .50 Beowulf.

Costs are indeed a big factor…in these types of tools. But when you badly need the freight train….the costs are secondary or not at all.

I can understand why SF would want them close up and personal…for that very freight train effect.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:03 pm


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February 27, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Cast Iron wrote:
I took a look at it when it first came out. Back then there was not as many bullets available.

Brass is not common, but then again neither are the .45Thumper, or the .458SOCOM.
Not sure if you can use other brass to make those.

While looking around, some mentioned it was likely easier to find 45-70govt than any of the above.

It is a good looking round. I can understand your interest.

Good point Cast Iron about using other brass to form this case.

I don’t think so as I recall this case has a rim on the end of it which is smaller than the case where in the powder resides.

This is a very unusual case in the manner it is manufactured.

I can convert 30.06 to 7.7mm Japanese…to .308…to .243..and also .223 to 7mm TCU. But this one .50 Beowulf is a very unusual case.

Best to try to buy this brass in bulk where possible.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:54 am


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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: Got my General ticket

February 27, 2017 orangetom1999 0
Mountain wrote:
I passed my General exam yesterday. Yee Haw.

FBOM Mountain…nice going

Fine Business Olde Man…well done.

A very 73 to you and your house. Catch you on the bands.

Hey Mountain….looking at your post…you were in the Navy?? What did you do for the Navy??

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:42 am


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February 26, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Yeah…this is an expensive round. I found this out with .41 Magnum…expensive. Hence I am learning to roll my own ammo in this calibration.

Were I to own a .50 Beowulf…It would be the same thing…rolling my own. That Brass is more uncommon than .41 Magnum.

But .50 Beowulf is a powerful close up round with heavy penetration. One would verily need such penetration and energy delivery to justify such a rifle.

I would myself, for that expense, prefer 12 gauge slug…up close.

The interesting thing about the AR platforms is the variation of calibers in which it can be found.

Thanks,
Orangetom

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HAM Radio Open Discussions • Re: Passed the Tech class last night!

February 25, 2017 orangetom1999 0
eochief66 wrote:
I passed my General exam last week. Waiting for the spring to get a hf rig and decide what type of antenna will work best for my requirements.

Yeah..Eochief66….way back when I passed the general and the advanced test in the same session… I too did not even have an HF rig on which to operate my newly earned license privileges. I took me some 11 months to save enough to save for my first HF radio…a Yaesu FT 890. I still have it.

Congratulations on passing the General class….and catch you eventually on the bands.

73,
Orangetom

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February 21, 2017 orangetom1999 0

danthman114 is correct..no matter what system one is using. I use a RCBS hand primer with the primers in a plastic feeding magazine. I don’t prime cases with powder out in the open. Simple safety. I prime cases as a total separate step unto itself even though my press is set up to load primers as part of the sizing sequence. I still prime by hand…and as a separate step.

I’ve had primers go off using the mallet technique. Fortunately I did not have an powder out. It gives one a serious pucker ride when you realize what just happened.

It is your time, your monies , and your risk.

I just don’t prime with powder out and loose. I also wear safety glasses. My safety glasses are prescription safety glasses but still I wear them.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:37 pm


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February 20, 2017 orangetom1999 0

There are some excellent posts by members on reloading here.

I have used the Hornady reloading books for years before I suddenly realized that they area using only Hornady bullets in their tables.

Also there is some variation between loading tables for different posters..on line.

Hence your taking it slow is a good idea …read and study.

I began learning to reload 41 Magnum ammo…intending to download my charges as I did not like the high power of factory ammo.

It has been a real learning experience very different from loading .38 Specials, 357 Magnums, or 45 ACPs.

Caution is the order of the day here…

Reload Pistol as well as rifle here.

Oh..and I started with a single stage RCBS press….now I have upgraded to a Lee turret press with four positions and also have upgraded to a RCBS Rock Chucker press for specifically the heavy duty job of resizing one sized brass to another size…or using a parent case to change it to another size or caliber. This often requires a heavy duty press.
This resizing of brass from one caliber to another was a learning experience in itself…

Oh…and I asked opinions from the members on here concerning this resizing of brass from one caliber to another…and this is what decided me on getting the heavy duty single stage RCBS Rock Chucker. I had broken my previous light duty Lee reloading press in working this specific task.
Since purchasing this RCBS Rock Chucker …and occasionally taking opinions of those with experience with it..I have heard few complaints and mostly compliments on the Rock Chucker press for this kind of resizing. The RCBS Rock Chucker has been a sound investment…and an excellent name for this press.
I am grateful to the members here for their views and opinions on this product.

Oh…and I am not pushing the Rock Chucker here…

Your number one consideration in getting into reloading is finances….the initial investment can be expensive once you get going.

I started reloading with these little Lee loaders in the boxes…no press involved. Reloading 30.06. and .30 Carbine and with a rubber hammer.. This is how I economically began reloading. Only later did I graduate to a press.

Thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom

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February 18, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Trigger question here folks.

I have a Colt AR To which On occasion I install a heavy barreled upper. It shoots well but the rifle has the stock military trigger.

It is fine for a military trigger but the problem is I have been spoiled with decent triggers…in accurate rifles/pistols.
I don’t even shoot this rifle much anymore…because I have been spoiled by good triggers. I use it mostly with the heavy barreled upper now days.
I like accurate rifles and pistols and have learned over time how much difference a decent trigger makes in performance.

I am interested in a trigger somewhere between the military set up and a target rifle..Not ultra light on the pull.

The best trigger I’ve used is one on my Thomson Contender pistol. It has little to no take up slack with a light crisp pull…then release of the hammer and then little to no over travel. This pistol has severely spoiled me with triggers on my other guns.

I have also been privileged to use some custom bolt action rifles with double set triggers. I was astonished at how light a trigger pull can be had with the setting of the rear trigger. These were some very nice custom bolt actions but a bit to light on the trigger pull for me. Very fine workmanship in these rifles..even beautiful scroll work on them but they are not for me.

I do not know what is out there but I expect many of you have much more experience and knowledge in this arena than myself. I also expect that with the multitude of after market parts this arena can be a mine field as the expression goes.

My thanks for any help and advice in this.

No hurry for now but eventually I will decide but as Dirk aptly states..information is always a good thing …examining the options and knowledge out there.

My thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:27 pm


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Emergency Communications • Hooking up with my friend via HF radio..

February 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Last December my friend of many many years retired and moved to Tennessee way out in the mountains…and far up at the end of a country lane.

He has been moving his household trip by trip as he is no longer on the clock as are so many of us.

We are both Hams and having started so many years ago on the CB bands and once we got our tickets we continued to carry on via radio rather than phones. We are both not phonaholics so to speak.

With all the other complexities of moving and setting up a household…setting up his radio station has not been a priority.

But the last two days he managed to shoot his antenna up high in the trees…a 160 meter dipole…via a home made air cannon.

Last night and for the first time since he moved..we managed to hook up on the 160 meter band on lower sideband.

He is out near Johnson City, Tennessee and we figure the distance is some 400 miles.

Copy was good with some static crashes in there.

His signal was 9 to 10 over and audio quality was good. We were running barefoot with only the 100 watts in the radio.

It was good to know that our systems were so capable…and I am making plans to get my Ameritron 811 H back on line. I’d like to be able to bring my signal up to some 200 watts when the static is thick and get just above the static level.

Also we will be exploring 75 and 60 meters.

He is trying to brush up on his morse code skills to have this option to put into place should conditions get very bad on the airways.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:22 am


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February 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Last December my friend of many many years retired and moved to Tennessee way out in the mountains…and far up at the end of a country lane.

He has been moving his household trip by trip as he is no longer on the clock as are so many of us.

We are both Hams and having started so many years ago on the CB bands and once we got our tickets we continued to carry on via radio rather than phones. We are both not phonaholics so to speak.

With all the other priorities of moving and setting up a household…setting up his radio station has not been a priority.

But the last two days he managed to shoot his antenna up high in the trees…a 160 meter dipole…via a home made air cannon.

Last time and for the first time since he moved..we managed to hook up on the 160 meter band on lower sideband.

He is out near Johnson City, Tennessee and we figure the distance is some 400 miles.

Copy was good with some static crashes in there.

His signal was 9 to 10 over and audio quality was good. We were running barefoot with only the 100 watts in the radio.

It was good to know that our systems were so capable…and I am making plans to get my Ameritron 811 H back on line. I’d like to be able to bring my signal up to some 200 watts when the static is thick and get just above the static level.

Also we will be exploring 75 and 60 meters.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:22 am


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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0
IceFire wrote:
Orangetom,

Magnum Research is the company that makes the Desert Eagle, mini Eagle, etc., among others.

Ahhhhh…ok…I believe you are correct. I did not recognize the name as such. Thanks also for reminding me.

Orangetom

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February 15, 2017 orangetom1999 0
IceFire wrote:
Orangetom,

Magnum Research is the company that makes the Desert Eagle, mini Eagle, etc., among others.

Ahhhhh…ok…I believe you are correct. I did not recognize the name as such. Thanks also for reminding me.

Orangetom

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Guns • Re: Taurus Judge

February 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

rj5156,

I’ve never heard of that company…Magnum Research..nor that they produced a gun capable of .410 and .45 calibration.

That is indeed a heavy gun.

A 1911 Colt is heavy enough…wow…that surely is a heavy gun to carry. Probably best to carry such on a chest rig….underarm rig.

I expect at that weight the recoil would not be as bad.

Yes it is a bit pricey.

Thanks for waking me up to this firearm by Magnum Research.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:21 pm


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Guns • Re: Cast reloads for .223?

February 14, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Knowing how to cast is indeed a great skill..and I don’t mean only bullets. I know many people here on the Chesapeake Bay who cast their own lead fishing weights even though they are plentiful in the stores.

Danthman is correct about paper patches in the olde days of Black Powder. It is still a good piece of knowledge to have..paper or gas check.

I figure that if it becomes bad enough our semi guns may become single shots…if we cannot get them to correctly feed with whatever we have to feed them.

Hardness of the lead sort of reminds me of the juggling act that Knife makers have in hardness or edge keeping characteristics of certain metals.

Hard knives tend to have brittle blades …due to the hardness. They can keep an edge much better..but they tend to be brittle and not sufficiently elastic…or over all…strong and take a beating without breaking.

If you go to elastic…you lose the edge keep qualities.

It is sort of a race for the magic do all blend of metals…and so too in lead qualities for bullets.

I had two Gerber knives years ago…which had blades made from L7 tool steel. I noted that the steel in these knives was similar to that in a good thread cutting tap. Very hard. But it was brittle. It would hold an edge wonderfully ..but if you damaged the edge it was difficult to get it back ..the metal was so hard. At the same time the blade was not one you would use to pry as so many do with a knife or a screwdriver…it would break because it was so hard..and thus brittle.

A trade off. But I did admire it’s ability to keep an edge verses the cheap disposable stainless steel knives I take to work because I can afford to lose them.

Those L7 tool steel knives were fixed blades and also expensive. I would never take them to work. To many people there have no appreciation for good steel knives. I get aggravated at the number of people who will not get a knife but have the latest cell phone and must needs always borrow someone else’s knife. Shoot!! ..they cannot even keep a ball point pen…and must constantly borrow a simple pen. Heck ..the cant even bring a spare cell phone battery and must often borrow someone else’s charger.

I get similar with people who want me to reload ammo for them…not happening.

The race for harder or softer lead bullets for specific applications is similar.

Sorry for the rant…but I think some get the idea.

Orangetom

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Guns • Re: Cast reloads for .223?

February 13, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Wow Kappydell,

Paper patch bullets…for sure.

That is exactly how they used to do it in the olde days before gas checks.

Thanks for reminding me.

Not sure , however, if it would work well in a magazine fed rifle.

But if you have little else…you can single feed said ammunition…in whatever you have.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:30 am


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February 13, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Gentlemen..and Ladies,

TO my surprise I did not know that Smith and Wesson had also entered this marketplace of the .410/.45 Long Colt market …and also enabled their pistol to shoot 45 ACP rounds.

This is how my Taurus Tracker in .45ACP is set up with the moon type clips to hold the .45ACP bullets in place.

I do like the idea of also being flexible sufficient to handle .45 ACP as well..but do not think it as powerful close up as the .45 Long Colt. The Long Colt has a heavier bullet ..I think…some 250/255 grains.

Were I to make this purchase of a Judge I would prefer the 6 inch barrel….longer sight radius.
Wonder if Taurus will eventually adapt their newer line of Judges to accommodate the .45ACP cartridge??

Thanks rj5156 for making me aware that Smith and Wesson as well ..has entered this marketplace.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:43 pm


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Guns • Re: Cast reloads for .223?

February 13, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Oh….goodness me….My apologies from this end…no offense was intended or taken here.

I am just agreeing with you in that I do not think you to far out there in your thinking or rationale behind your thinking.

I have had this experience for myself with people who think I am crazy for doing prepping verses watching sports or the Kardashians ..et al…particularly at work. They tend to think I am out there.

I do not speak of this topic with anyone at work anymore except those with a similar understanding or mind set.

I even have a small rotating stash of food and medicines ..even non phone communications in my locker at work should I be stuck there for some time and due to some calamity. Same in my daily BOB. I even keep potassium Iodide in my daily BOB.

Agree totally about the feeding problems with different kinds of bullets.

I have reloaded loaded .223 bullets for a heavy barreled bolt action rifle and tried to seat the bullets out closer to the lands in the rifling. I was not thinking it through at the time but when I tried these bullets in an AR platform…the over all length was to long….and would not properly feed unless loaded by hand…one at a time. Yes definitely ..bullet shape and seating can be critical in a semi auto. I think this is called OAL or Over All Length.

You are spending and investing your time, monies, etc ….you decide and don’t let others dissuade you from learning and thinking things through now..before a SHTF or even God Forbid…a TEOTWAWKI. Just be safe. If you have a family for which you are the Shepard…you have a significant load on your shoulders to consider….factor in.

The learning time is now …during good times and plenty.

Many a person/family has found this out in this area as it is hurricane country. Since the last significant hurricane to come through here…Isabelle….more people have been thinking outside the box and the Kardashians/Cowboys…et al…and buying generators…just in case.
I salute them for thinking in that direction and not depending on FEMA and others any more than they need so do.

You are doing the same or similar thing here…expanding your thinking/ knowledge and by this your “Options.”

I salute you as well for this out of the box thinking. Glad to be of some help and there are some good thoughts by other members on this thread.

Orangetom

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Guns • Re: Cast reloads for .223?

February 12, 2017 orangetom1999 0

Cast Iron,

It is good to know I am not too out there in my thinking of the logistical necessities required for loading cast, possible issues and limitations. And, having a black powder back up.
I should look into bows too.

Negative ….absolutely not.

You are spending your monies and your time. Do not let others put limitations on you …when you are spending your time and monies….your sweat.

Mind you now…just don’t get to where you are impractical and or dangerous..or stupid.

For example..I have a copy of “The Anarchist Cookbook ” which I have had for over 30 years. I have no ambition to do some of the crazy wild and dangerous things in that book. I have enough practical real life experience to not do something so dangerous..or stupid. Particularly if you have family close by.

But it is interesting reading.

I have taught myself to pick locks….and even fabricate my own picks and tension levers. I do not open locks for other people in my neighborhood….for practical reasons…nor rescue them in like manner. People are so dumb and ignorant …the first time they are missing something …where will they be looking?? I do not advertise this skill to people in my neighborhood…but it has saved me monies when I have locked myself out of my house, garage, or truck and cars.

There are practical limitations as well as safety limitations to any plan…but it is your time and your monies..your sweat.

Just weight your decisions out practically and safely…but it is your decision, your time, and your monies, and also your responsibility. I have no ambition to become a Xerox copy of what most people think is normal or at times acceptable today.

And that is the problem in a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI…all bets are off….no PC acceptable in SHTF OR TEOTWAWKI.

Obviously I am not into PC…or what I often tend to call…”herd mentality.” I do not want to be carrying the herd on my back and or expense/risk in SHTF or TEOTWAWKI.
And I have little use or respect for most of what passes for Herd Mentality today…ie..PC.

Again my .02,
Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:35 am