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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: MARCH 2017 – What Did You do To Prep This Week/Month?

March 24, 2017 NJMike 0

I enjoyed the Kindle version of Survival Medicine so much I bought the paperback.

And that led to several other medical purchases.

My fish will be safe at least. ;)

Also completed the indoor seeding/transplanting to larger pots that I wanted to get done. I’ll be picking up remnants from two older portable greenhouses that have seen better days. I’m going to re-purpose just the shelf portions of the frame for stacking seed and pot trays for better vertical space use indoors.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 am

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California Meetups • Re: Idea for a rendevous

March 24, 2017 NJMike 0
pathowes88 wrote:
So I have an idea to do a meet up with classes but I have no idea how to organize it. I would like some help with it. It would mainly be for South Bay Area people, but others would welcomed.
I don’t want to do anything big, maybe around thirty to forty people or so. For venue I’d go for a building like a community center or something that could hold the amount of people I’m looking for. Maybe just a single day event just to see if it would go well. Dollar admission to help with the costs. I’d like it to have some classes so people can learn hands on but not entirely sure though.

Sounds like a number of events I’ve attended or helped out with in the Northeast. Try using Meet Up, website version or App. You’ll cast a wider net in getting attendance. Meet Up does have a fee. You can ask for donations in the meeting to recoup the cost just like recovering the venue cost. You want to see an example, look up group “Survive and Thrive Philadelphia”.

Do you already have topics that you’re a subject matter expert on, that you can share? Any other co-organizers with other skills? First thing is to get a meeting planned with a useful or compelling (but not controversial) topic, then start up the group. That first meeting sets the tone, so be prepared to solicit ideas, and ask for people to participate.

Have the chairs out before people arrive if at all possible. That avoids people with different ideas on chair placement causing delays with re-arranging things.

Plan time for introductions. Some people will just give a name, some will want to lay out all their concerns. Allow a little time for that, if you’ve got that time budgeted.

Set some ground rules on use of photography or video that everyone is happy with.

Steer away from politics if you’re looking for inclusiveness.

Anyone providing a demo should ideally provide handouts. Finding a venue with a whiteboard, or projector is a bonus.

Understand and follow the venue’s rules on things like open fire, weapons, etc. that may curtail certain preparedness activities.

Run a giveaway of something useful, make it fun like a knowledge trivia contest.

See if there’s interest in book swaps, seed exchanges, etc.

If you’re not using Meet Up, you may want to set up a voluntary signup to be contacted for future meetings.

On class ideas, things that have happened locally across several different groups- water treatment, solar power, aquaponics, long term food and storage, fire starting, making alcohol stoves, canning and preserving, chicken raising, firearm basics and range time, making natural cordage, wild edibles, first aid, situational awareness, and communications.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:49 am

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Gardening • Re: How to best take advantage of forest fire damage

March 23, 2017 NJMike 0

Not a farmer here, but some random suggestions…

If your focus of effort is mainly the one acre area for fruit trees, I’d suggest getting the soil tested in several spots to see what nutrient amendments are needed.

See if the local agriculture department has guidance. Example online resource: … RDB1259629

Do a cost/benefit analysis of investment to yield.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:19 am

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Financial Issues • Re: Cryptocurrency for investments?

March 23, 2017 NJMike 0 … 017-2017-3

It can be manipulated or influenced by larger entities just like today’s currencies (ref:PBOC and SEC in link above).

It’s electronic and even easier for a nation state to freeze or seize assets, just like a bank account. (ref:PBOC in link above)

Governments can shut down exchanges or shutdown or isolate Internet traffic if/when/where they choose.

It’s more imaginary than physical fiat paper and coin currency.

In following several linked articles this one is interesting too. China plays a big role in Bitcoin. … ibi-2017-1

To each their own. Personally, I’m a big No.

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Vacuum Sealing • Re: Hand Pump Vacuum Sealer

March 21, 2017 NJMike 0
SSPrep wrote:
I didn’t look at the price, but a $20 brake bleeder works fine.

Yes. And they often have a gauge too.

Another option are manual pumps used for Chinese cupping sets, but I think the brake bleeders would be better.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:59 pm

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Spreading Prepper Mentality—Pros Vs. Cons?

March 20, 2017 NJMike 0

My philosophy is I’ll tell people, if I’m comfortable with telling them. I’ll share information with them If I think it will be fruitful. 9/11 and Hurricane Sandy had local impacts. I know many people in different social circles who don’t or won’t self-identify as Preppers, but who definitely prepare to some degree. Curiously we don’t talk prepping in a formal manner. Most people only discuss preparedness in vague general terms. I think many prefer not to disclose too much information. I can respect that, given I’ve been outed by family to other family and their friends on things I kept in the house. I’ve even had a Prepper from a group out me in front of others as a Prepper at a non-prepping public event.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: What are you doing on this first day of spring?

March 20, 2017 NJMike 0

I have to container garden this year until I move again. However, it’s a bit cold today to do much outside, plus melting snow and ice, and then there’s being at work…

This past weekend, I started transplanting healthier seedlings from tray positions up to larger 3″ pots. I also split some existing Aloe into fresh pots with fresh soil.

Stopping by the old place tonight, so will probably pick up some more containers. Later I’ll probably do more seedling transplanting to 3″ pots. I have some lemon balm seeds to start as well.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:56 am

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: MARCH 2017 – What Did You do To Prep This Week/Month?

March 14, 2017 NJMike 0

Picked up some more canned goods.

A recent Home Depot trip had the grow your own mushroom kits for half off. I picked up two and will be starting one of them next week. I added some flashlights from the clearance section too.

I also finally began using the Kindle I’d picked up on a Black Friday sale. I’ve been downloading free books on various prepping topics. It’s another backup to the paper books and the PDFs I have on other electronic media.

One of the Kindle books I’ve added is the Survival Medicine Handbook. It’s been a good read so far. Excellent information for some medications needed for my fish.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:23 pm

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Food & Water • Re: Ghee???

March 14, 2017 NJMike 0

I have a small case.

Reminds me I’ll need to get some canned crab and lobster as carrying devices for the butter.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:59 pm

General Family Preparedness • Re: Great Augason Farms LTS Food SALE!

March 10, 2017 NJMike 0

I received my two orders Wednesday and Thursday. My first order included someone else’s packing slip instead of mine, with a name and partial address. I suppose someone out there may have got my packing slip in their delivery. Not too worried as it was a small order. Besides,Walmart, my CC company, and by extension the .Gov already know. :whistling:

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:20 am

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: MARCH 2017 – What Did You do To Prep This Week/Month?

March 8, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve got some seedlings growing in flats. Just basil and peppers. The rest of my planting will be direct sow or plants. Picked up some purslane seeds too. I’m going to plant in containers, save some, and spread the rest about outside to see where if it will take.

Paid down some cc divorce debt. Lawyers are doing well in this at least.

With that progress I put in a modest order for some additional LTS foods.

Three batches of mead to rack into new carboys between now and the weekend.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:49 pm

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Drying, Dehydrating, & Smoking • Re: Testing our dehydrator

March 8, 2017 NJMike 0

Sounds great. Good idea to concentrate on items you want that could be difficult to get in the future. Out of curiosity how are you storing these when you’re done?

I’ve got a small dehydrator that hasn’t been used in years. I have some bananas that are ripe so perhaps I’ll see if it’s still working. Otherwise, I picked up a newer one for the GF around the holidays and she’s using it. I may be outsourcing my dehydrating…lol.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:32 pm

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Congress told to brace for ‘robotic soldiers’

March 7, 2017 NJMike 0
ajax727 wrote:
What is funny as hell is people willingly bring it home so they can be spied upon and information filled about all aspects of there life .

It’s going to be difficult when most folks have these. You’ll have to think about what you’re saying visiting friends who have them. Think about when these devices get put into stores in the place of live salespeople, or in parks and public places to provide a public information service.

While the country is divided, the machines and their corporate overlords take over. Big Brother is watching.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:45 pm

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: They Are Playing With A Revolution

March 3, 2017 NJMike 0

I suppose I’ll speculate. It’s Friday.

I look at several events that this country has survived – Civil War, Dust Bowl, Great Depression, Kent State, various riots (Watts, Newark), etc. I’m optimistic that the country will eventually weather almost anything that doesn’t put us back into the 18th C. or make everything glow with radiation, or both.

Aside from an economic meltdown, the most likely event we could see would be a Snowflake Revolution at the voting booth. If it happens it will be reactionary and based on political spin and the exaggerated consequences of a Trump presidency. It would resemble a Left version of the Tea Party or the Silent Majority of Trump Supporters. But hey, that’s democracy in action.

I feel our education system and news outlets are creating generations of stupid people who aren’t critical thinkers and allow themselves to be manipulated into actions. Thus I’m worried some misguided soul will try to be the next Hinckley, or even worse be successful.

I’m also concerned about a government being knee jerk reactionary to events (violent protests, singular acts) and we end up with the same types of overreach and controls on peoples lives that were feared the past 8 years.

On that last point I’m going to present a Chicago example. What if, in order to reduce the outrageous inner city gang violence, high murder rate, and drug epidemic we see Chicago getting a Boston Bomber like government response or worse? What if the National Guard is brought in, there’s neighborhoods lock-downed and door to door treatment to remove illegal guns, illegal drugs, illegal aliens, and round up anyone with outstanding warrants? What if a confiscation includes guns or other property of law abiding Americans out of expedience? What if services are turned off (Cell coverage, Internet, Electric, Water) to ensure compliance? What if people die in this operation? What if the actions taken are considered overall to be legal? What if the nation decides the ends justifies the means and expands this systematically to other cities, then suburbs, then elsewhere?

This article was an interesting read on Boston. … n-bombing/
Here’s an interesting 6 min video of what door to door looks like: … ut-window/

Some interesting topics many people may not be aware of when considering the 4th Amendment:

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:41 am

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

February 28, 2017 NJMike 0
Cast Iron wrote:
NJMike, thank you very much for your input. I really appreciate it.
Based off your critique and observations I clearly did not convey the relationship dynamic as well as I thought I did.
The first draft went more into detail about Claire, her parents, the relationship with Jason and how it all started . . . but it felt like I was going down a rabbit hole and questionable if it was adding to the overall storyline or not.

And to be honest, some of it felt like a cliche: mousey, verbally/emotionally abused young lady, limited options, marries a, to use your most excellent words, bonehead who is nearly carbon copy of her father.
There is a lot of psychology there.
After years and years of continued verbal/emotional abuse, during the SHTF, she snaps.
Again, feels like a cliche.

You have given me something to think about for future posts.

Thank you again.

You’re welcome. I enjoyed the read. I’d say cliches are cliches because they happen often enough to resonate with people and past experiences. That doesn’t mean a cliched character is bad in the story if done properly. If I drew an incorrect cliched conclusion from your intent, that’s based on my life experiences. You still created a character in Claire deep enough in a few short passages to get a reaction out of me.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:29 pm

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMPs (Electro Magnetic Pulse)

February 28, 2017 NJMike 0


I’m curious on this:

It should be noted that putting electronics in a Faraday cage for a solar storm is a waste of time.

Is this due to the duration of a massive solar storm and someone taking their electronics out of the box prematurely?
Is this due to construction/materials of the Faraday cage vs. shorter wavelengths’ penetration?
Inducted energy within the Faraday Cage, or something else?

Also, Any difference if the Faraday Cage is non-screen and grounded?


Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:07 pm

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CERT • Re: Comminucations Breakdown

February 28, 2017 NJMike 0

My prior community’s CERT team were almost all radio licensed and a number of them had been operating for some time. They all had their own equipment at home in addition to what the OEM provided. I was involved with them post-Hurricane Sandy, so not sure if there was some course correction needed in their case, as identified in the OP situation. I did learn that CERT is handled differently at the town and county levels depending.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:26 am

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

February 28, 2017 NJMike 0

If I may offer my feelings on Claire.

First, I don’t have Jason’s perspective to weigh, but will give him some benefit of doubt. He came across as being stubborn and a bonehead. His shelter in place isolation and stored food may have kept them both alive in the early part of SHTF. His follow up ideas were bad, but he was protective of her by standing watch and having OPSEC concerns for both of their benefits. There’s no mention of him being violent with her, just being ignorant of her ideas and reminding her of her father.

Those traits may make surviving harder, but they are not punishable by death.Thus, I don’t think Claire needed to kill Jason.

She had options. She could have left with her own stuff, as she did the first time on the bike. She had gardening skills to offer for room and board. She could have approached the situation with Jason using different conflict management methods, such as demonstrating new options and reward. The meal she cooked was an example, but she didn’t put any further effort into turning their dynamic around positively in a subtle fashion. Her switch had already gone off.

The murder was a disproportionate response. Her motivation was better tasting food? More social interaction? Being a character from one of her books? Escape from someone? She cast Jason as worthless and he should have been easy to escape from. She saw other people, other options and in her calculus his company was now no longer necessary. She internalized their arguments and that’s on her holding onto past demons. She was projecting past anger of her father issues onto her partner, and making him out to be more of a villain with herself as a blameless victim, all in order to rationalize a greater crime. As I noted before, very much a realistic possibility. It happens without SHTF.

With that said, I think her character reads as selfish, an opportunist, perhaps bipolar or otherwise cray cray. She lacks a moral compass and represents a future danger to the community, more so if she encounters conflict with her world view. I wouldn’t trust her.

I think the community, if intent on law and order, would and should hold her accountable for murder.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:14 am

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Food & Water • Re: mushrooms …

February 27, 2017 NJMike 0
Inmar wrote:
let’s start discussion with the well-known mushroom ..

Russian “lisickka” (маленькая лиса) “small fox”… :)
English – Cantharellus (I wonder: Americans uses only Latin? I have not seen the English:D )[/b]

That mushroom is called Chanterelle in restaurants.

Mushroom foraging is something I’d like to learn. Thank you for the other forum link. A coworker is very involved with collecting Morel mushrooms. Unfortunately he lives on the other side of the country (West Coast), so I’m unable to forage with him. I’m going to find a local group here.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:04 pm

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Books and Entertainment for a BOB/Home..SHTF/Grid down

February 24, 2017 NJMike 0

I’m a fan of physical books. I go to a rummage sale twice a year and always come home with at least one bag of books. I have 2 full bookcases worth of books related to survival, prepping, gardening, first aid, etc. Plus maps. Have to have maps. And I’m sure others here on APN have more than what I have…lol.

Even with all the physical books, I don’t dismiss the idea of electronic media as a backup and as a source of information when evacuating. My books would have to remain behind in some scenarios.

My current electronic backup is use of PDF and other files stored on thumb drives. I find myself downloading maps and articles (farming, gardening, etc.) from a computer and straight to thumb drives. The thumb drive sticks are more portable than a tablet, can be more easily protected from shock/the elements, and will work across many more devices. They are also concealable. I have one that’s really small, about the size of a quarter. And they are cheap. I just picked up a 32G for under $10 at a KMart store closing sale. They had more so I might be going back. For $50 one could duplicate information or records across 5 of these, encrypt the files, and keep them in 5 separate locations (e.g.- home, work, vehicle, person, and out of state at family or friend’s place). That’s more pricey to do with 5 Kindles.

That said, I do have a Kindle Fire HD 16GB that I picked up during Black Friday sales for $60. I also have a solar panel that I’ll be working into a kit to be able to keep the Kindle charged. So I’m not far off from eventually having something similar to what DR1VEN suggests.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:27 am

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Physical Fitness • Re: 1 in 3 Adult Americans are obese

February 22, 2017 NJMike 0

This is in part the fault of the Nixon administration and his Agriculture Secretary Earl Butz. There are many articles on this. Here’s one focusing on some of the policies: … n-20120627

And that article’s excerpt of a passage from The Guardian:

The story begins in 1971. Richard Nixon was facing re-election. The Vietnam war was threatening his popularity at home, but just as big an issue with voters was the soaring cost of food. If Nixon was to survive, he needed food prices to go down, and that required getting a very powerful lobby on board — the farmers. Nixon appointed Earl Butz, an academic from the farming heartland of Indiana, to broker a compromise. Butz, an agriculture expert, had a radical plan that would transform the food we eat, and in doing so, the shape of the human race.

Butz pushed farmers into a new, industrial scale of production, and into farming one crop in particular: corn. U.S. cattle were fattened by the immense increases in corn production. Burgers became bigger. Fries, fried in corn oil, became fattier. Corn became the engine for the massive surge in the quantities of cheaper food being supplied to American supermarkets: everything from cereals, to biscuits and flour found new uses for corn. […]

By the mid-70s, there was a surplus of corn. Butz flew to Japan to look into a scientific innovation that would change everything: the mass development of high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), or glucose-fructose syrup as it’s often referred to in the UK, a highly sweet, gloppy syrup, produced from surplus corn, that was also incredibly cheap. HFCS had been discovered in the 50s, but it was only in the 70s that a process had been found to harness it for mass production. HFCS was soon pumped into every conceivable food: pizzas, coleslaw, meat. It provided that “just baked” sheen on bread and cakes, made everything sweeter, and extended shelf life from days to years.

Bottom line- the changes put in by Butz created bigger butz in the end.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:33 am

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: FEBRUARY 2017- What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

February 19, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve not been as industrious as everyone else. A week of travel out of state and the week after with sinusitis will do that. On the bright side, I managed to get through the sickness without having to take the AB that was prescribed. Guess I’ll save that for a rainy day. ;)

Harvested my first fresnel lens out of a huge 50″ projection TV someone left by a dumpster. It was surprising easy to remove. I’ve left it in the plastic TV bezel for now, and will try it out on another weekend. Removed a few other items to find a use for as well (3 sets of magnifying lenses, speakers, and a large trapezoidal mirror).

I also started some seeds indoors. I skipped doing a garden last year. I’m doing containers this year until I move again.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:10 pm

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Prepper Fiction • Re: The Fall

February 17, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve been enjoying your storyline. I have to admit you almost lost me in the paragraph of the above with all the tacti-cool brand placement…lol. I liked the direction it ultimately went in though.

Thanks for posting! :thumbup:

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:02 am

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions

February 17, 2017 NJMike 0

I’m no more concerned currently than I was previously. I can’t trust what’s communicated to the populace vs. reality. It’s still likely in my mind that Russia, China, or someone else could EMP the U.S. just as much as N. Korea could or would. I also doubt the WH, our military, or intelligence agencies would even know of an impending attack. We won’t have warnings.

That said, the Grim Reaper is waiting in the shadows every day. Think I’m more likely to die in my commute to work and home than some of the things we discuss here. Of course that doesn’t stop me from preparing to deal with any type of plausibly survivable scenario. When something happens, and if I’m left standing in the opening minutes, I’ll definitely take a quick mental calculus of how optimistic or dead I’ll be. Happy Friday :)

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:03 am

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Tattler Lids Question

February 16, 2017 NJMike 0

I’ve got one box of tattler lids. Haven’t used them yet. Sorry to hear about the spoilage.

I do as the others with regard to ring tightness (or lack of…). I also inspect the rings well for distortions as I’ve had a few leave indents in the lids during processing.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:54 pm

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Shall we play a game, IV?

February 14, 2017 NJMike 0

1st- If SHTF in December, I’ve hopefully relocated below the snow line well before February, or I’ve become a mole person crouched around a small heat source. Anyway…

3 miles in thick snow will be slow slow going. My local group had someone volunteer their own experience hiking a trail in snow. Itwas eye opening that an experienced hiker with top of the line winter gear was not able to make his daily travel rates and abandoned his hike after a few days in. He dealt with fire/stove failures, thick drifts to hike and being stuck in a sleeping bag with frozen zippers. So ideally I don’t go out for a 3mile hike in thick snow and consider this a very risky endeavor and not a walk in the park.

What I might bring in general terms-
Warm Clothing, hand, foot, face protection. Including sunglasses to avoid snow blindness
Homemade snowshoes.
A compass and map with routes marked. Ideally I know the area I’m traveling in already. I doubt the 3 miles will be a straight line, so perhaps a longer hike.
A makeshift sled with some shelter in place supplies, some gifts for my visit (probably food), plus second change of clothing in dry bag
Frame backpack with first aid, insulated propane tank & stove (because butane is not as cold weather friendly), solid fuel stove as backup, fire starting x3 methods (assuming difficulty in cold weather), emergency blankets, hand warmers, some food/water filter, and a portable shovel to make shelter in the snow. Essentials are on the frame pack and not on the sled in case I have to ditch or decide to stash the sled somewhere along the route.
Personal protection would be something I can use with gloves that operates well in the cold. and of course a knife and/or small hatchet
White sheets or similar as makeshift winter camouflage on both sled and self.
Hand radio because I assume I’ve established communications with my destination via radio to be trekking 3 miles in snow to them during SHTF.
Walking sticks, also useful to test snow depth of drifts

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:26 pm

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For Sale & Trade • Re: More about military field phones.

February 13, 2017 NJMike 0

I don’t have any sound powered phones. I do have 4 German Field Telephones. I believe the Germans may have been among the last in NATO to use them. They use very common D batteries and can be useful for point to point communications if you have the cabling handy. You can also make your own cheap field phone-Lite with an old corded handset, a 9V battery and a resistor (around 300ohm). Google how to make your own intercom.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:37 pm

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Introduce Yourself • Re: 5 gallon bucket or larger tote?

February 13, 2017 NJMike 0

Ah…1999. I wasn’t a full on prepper then. I was only hoarding champagne for an anticipated shortage. I didn’t have the red wheat issue. All bottles were drank. :)

One suggestion about lots of small mylar bags in a large container is to think about what’s inside the bags and how they’re packed in that larger container. If contents are coarse and/or many bags stacked, by rubbing together one could end up with a few bags tearing or getting pinholes.

I store a variety of things, but mostly in 5gal buckets or #10 can cases, as they are portable enough with a hand truck. I recently moved and had to relocate my food stores. I was able to do this in one truckload, however…that was just the food. If I had to bug out with all my food and gear, my vehicle would look like one of those overladen 3rd world trucks.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:02 am

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Natural Disasters • Re: CA: Oroville dam collapse feared

February 13, 2017 NJMike 0

I hope and pray the people in the affected area are all safely evacuated and that they’ll be able to stop a dam failure from washing away people’s homes and businesses. I hope none of our CA APN friends are in the threat area.

I’m monitoring this and thinking about how I’d evacuate. One vehicle, limited notice, and the possibility that anything left behind is gone forever. Do you give yourself 2 minutes, 20 minutes, 2 hours to pack up a vehicle?

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:36 am

General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Not just bug-out bags

February 3, 2017 NJMike 0

Some additional thoughts on airports/travel.

I figure I’ve got a 50% chance of being at my home airport. In that case I can eventually get to my vehicle, since as a practice I always long term park the vehicle rather than get dropped off. My GHB is available if I can leave the building and access the lot.

Otherwise, I have no desire to lose tool items or get in trouble over bringing extra things on the plane. However, I also do bring a little food in my carry on like protein bars, as well as charging items. I keep a flint/starter with blade and some paracord in my checked bag, but may not have access to it.

I’m working on carrying additional electronic versions of important documents. That’s in case I’m traveling to one part of the country and things go bad suddenly in any extreme but localized event back home.

Statistics: Posted by NJMike — Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:46 am