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Gardening • Re: Garden 2017

January 28, 2017 IceFire 0
Stahlrosen wrote:
Who knew rabbits ate onions? Sigh……

Stahlrosen, about the ONLY thing in my garden that the rabbits DIDN’T eat was the asparagus. They absolutely devoured everything else, but the asparagus they didn’t touch.

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Pandemic Preparedness • Re: Proliferation of bird flu outbreaks raises risk of human

January 28, 2017 IceFire 0
Cast Iron wrote:
I never get the flu shot. Well, not since the military.

Will I have developed an immunity to a future bug?

I do not know.

But I like to think my body is that much more robust than the next guy.

I’ve only had ONE flu shot in my life…also in the military. Let’s just say that anaphylaxis is an experience I do NOT wish to repeat. (Not to mention that needed to post a guard over someone’s body for an hour to make sure they keep breathing takes away nursing resources that can better be used elsewhere.) Whenever flu shot time rolled around after that, they told me to get the heck out of there.

Funny thing is, except for after that shot, when I got a raging case of the flu (they were using us as guinea pigs to test out a “live virus” vaccine that year–after which they decided that live virus vaccine was NOT a good idea) I’ve NEVER had the flu, even when everyone around me got it.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: The American Dream

January 28, 2017 IceFire 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
The American Dream is something you were expected to work for. You achieve satisfaction and pride by working for it, by making an effort.
Reb

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A.N.T.S. • Re: The American Dream

January 27, 2017 IceFire 0
Cast Iron wrote:
I think it also varies on what the American Dream is nowadays.

Used to be a good paying job with job security, home ownership, stable family, good schools for the kids, the annual family vacation, that kind of thing.

Now, depends on whom you ask.

I have lived in urban areas, sub-burbs, rural and even a war zone. In order of preference: Rural, urban, war zone, sub-burbs.

In a lot of cases, urban and suburbs ARE war zones!

That’s why we moved out to a rural area.

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Gardening • Re: Garden 2017

January 27, 2017 IceFire 0
cellengrac wrote:
I carried my little rabbit garden gifts down to the planter box yesterday. This will be my third year in our stepping stone house. It is on a steep hill have had a lot of problems figuring out how to garden on a hill. I am relocating to the front yard this year which isn’t as steep. I am ordering some peet pellets to start next week. I am also ordering some extra to use next year.
I tried the potato cage last year using wheat straw and it didn’t work either. After if listening to The video on the other post this may be my forever house. Any tips on gardening on a hill would be very much appreciated. I have always had a level to gently rolling yard. After tilling the first time most of my good dirt washed over the cliff so I am saving all my animals gifts kitchen scraps leaves and what not to compost but that will be another year before I have enough.

We used to live on what I referred to as “the hill from he!!” Over a period of a couple of years, I terraced it, to give me some level planting areas, and keep everything from washing down the hill every time it rained. You can use cinderblocks, those “castlewall” blocks, rock walls, etc. as retaining walls to hold the soil in place. Start from the bottom, build a retaining wall (it can be as low as 6 inches to a foot or more, depending on the steepness of your hill) then level the ground back a couple of feet. At the back of that terrace, do another wall, and repeat. People in many cultures around the world have used terracing in order to farm on steep hills.

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Gardening • Re: Garden 2017

January 27, 2017 IceFire 0

Let’s put an END to the political BS in a NON-political thread RIGHT NOW! The OP was strictly a GARDENING thread, and there was NO REASON to introduce ANYONE’S political leanings into it! I don’t care if anyone leans red, blue, or pink with purple polka dots! This is NOT the place for it! Now behave, or I’ll take you all out to the woodshed!

OK, moderator/mom voice off.

I’ve got peas coming up, and just waiting for the spinach, lettuce, parsley, scallions, and carrots to start coming up.

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Gardening • Re: Frozen pipes

January 26, 2017 IceFire 0

Last year, we had our water pipe freeze at the well one night. So, we wrapped the exposed pipes with heat tape, and hung a heat lamp (one of my extra brooder lamps for the chickens), as well as adding insulation in the well house. The lamp gets plugged in when temps are expected in the low teens. Since we’ve done that, haven’t had any more freeze-ups.

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Ladies Section • Re: WOOL (and other fiber) ALLERGIES *whimpers*

January 26, 2017 IceFire 0
Anna wrote:
Since you’re having a breathing reaction rather than a local skin reaction, I’d bet its some sort of “dust” from the fibers — that’s why its an issue will all the different products. Have you tried washing them before you handle them? Also, after washing and drying I’d store them in a sealed container to keep them from getting dusty again.

I have asthma and allergies and am very allergic to wool, but its a contact allergy not breathing. My dh used to wear wool socks and I would get an itchy rash when I darned them. I cannot wear wool next to my skin or I get hives. I currently have on a wool sweater with a cotton turtleneck underneath and no problem. I also wear other wool items as long as there is no direct skin contact.

I had the same problem before I tried Merino wool. I can wear that next to my skin with NO problems (in fact I’m wearing merino wool socks right now) where all other types of wool make me break out in hives.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:56 pm


General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 25, 2017 IceFire 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
The darn volume is just turned up way to high. Everyone should just calm down, put on their big boy pants, and work together. Nobody can talk or compromise because they are so busy yelling as loud as they can. Am I the only one that feels like reason has completely left the building…

No, Ray, you’re not. Reason left the building years ago. Everyone is so busy trying to find things to be offended by, screaming about those manufactured offenses, and infringing on other people’s rights so that they aren’t “offended” (Sorry, but the last time I looked at the Constitution, neither the right NOT to be offended, nor the right to force others to go against their religious or moral beliefs in order to accommodate one’s own particular “peculiarities” is listed there) that they can’t be bothered to stop their screaming, much less TRY to work together.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Horse diapers

January 24, 2017 IceFire 0
Cast Iron wrote:
The ones I have seen in big cities, for carriage rides, there is a large leather bag, just behind and under the horses rump. Manure goes in the bag. Once full, the operator has to empty it.

They use the same ones for the horses and mules that pull the “stagecoaches” in Tombstone. Of course, a few “horse apples” DO miss the bags, but MOST of it is contained. Then again, the people who ride their horses into town DON’T have “diapers” on their horses, so you STILL need to watch your step (ESPECIALLY when you’re wearing long skirts–some with a slight “train”–and several layers of pettioats.)

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General Family Preparedness • Re: A new day, a new leader, a direction less traveled

January 21, 2017 IceFire 0
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
…Never in my entire life have I seen an elected official fulfill a campaign promise on their first day…..Hoping with a watchful eye on this guy.

That’s because he’s a businessman, NOT a politician. He’s approaching governing more like a CEO runs a business, which is a refreshing change: for FAR too long, the politicians have been running the country in a way that, if it were a business, would have caused it to go bankrupt and fail. Trump wants to see our country succeed.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 21, 2017 IceFire 0
Blondie wrote:

oldasrocks wrote:The real question is: Will people finally figure out which bathroom to use?

Depends if you need the one with a tampon dispenser or not.

Anyone who wants to transition to female should be required to endure 30 years of PMS.

And after that, they should be required to endure 10 years of MENOPAUSE!

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New here- and the story of how I got started

January 21, 2017 IceFire 0
nico wrote:
Thanks guys! Not feeling belittled about the mud slide lol. It was Colorado. It’s been burn or flood for us the past few years.

Sounds like California…first burn, then the rains come, and the mudslides. The whole time I was growing up there, it happened EVERY year several times a year. As far as I know, it’s STILL an annual occurrence.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 21, 2017 IceFire 0

Isn’t it great when they first start to lay? And those little pullet eggs are SO cute! They will gradually get larger in size, ESPECIALLY after your “girls” go through their first molt. Then the eggs will be much larger.

Since today was payday, I stopped off and got another 1/4 oz of shiny yellow stuff. Eventually I’ll get back up to where I was BEFORE I cashed it in to come up with the down payment for this place. (I’m already halfway there) I figure it was well worth it, to get the acreage and move us closer to self-sufficiency.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: A new day, a new leader, a direction less traveled

January 21, 2017 IceFire 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
I didn’t like Trump. I didn’t support Trump. I voted for him in order to keep an immoral crook out of the White House.

I can say that I am now proud of my country and her leadership. I am very optimistic about the future.

Reb

Same here, Reb. His Inauguration speech gave me hope. If he can do HALF of what he plans, we will be WAY ahead of where we are now. Let’s pray he succeeds. I especially like how he called out the politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle…he made them ALL uncomfortable, and rightly so! I’m hoping that he can heal some of the deep divisions in this country.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: From the north Georgia Appalachian foothills

January 20, 2017 IceFire 0
kappydell wrote:
Yep-yep. And I like canning my own food, I know what is in it that way!

Absolutely! Not only fruits/jams/jellies and veggies, but I also can meats, broths/stock, soups, stews, and home-made spaghetti sauce (I can’t stand all the stuff they put in the commercially prepared sauces!)

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Alaska Discussion, News, and Weather • Re: Finally a winter to be proud of

January 20, 2017 IceFire 0
Permafrost wrote:
I can tell you all with my heroic journey to town if you tell me where to post it. It was actually a tough go and I was not sure I would make it at one point.

You can always post your heroic journey in the “Stories and Fiction” area…sounds like a good story that needs to be told! Besides, we LIKE stories…they help keep us entertained.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 20, 2017 IceFire 0
BK in KC wrote:
Also, the MSM doesn’t get to filter the message. It’s straight from Trump to the people. The MSM is notorious for not reporting things that don’t fit the narrative they’re trying to spin and Trump just bypasses them and gets his message out whether the MSM wants to report it or not.

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ROFL! The Blue Bird of Happiness crapping on the heads of the LameStream media. LOVE it!

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 IceFire 0

My bet on their funding would be Soros, as well…he seems to like throwing so me of his billions at funding causes meant to destroy our rights and fundamental liberties that make our country what it is. He’s also an out-and-out socialist globalist bent on promoting the “new world order”. Of course, in order to make THAT happen he needs to destroy our country first.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Brand new to this forum

January 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Chickens aren’t difficult at all. Personally, I prefer the dual-purpose (both meat and eggs) heritage breed chickens, as they tend to be a bit hardier, although not “optimized” for producing one or the other. Breeds that are “optimized” for egg-laying are egg-laying machines, but usually not very meaty, while the Cornish cross chickens are optimized for meat production; however, they need to be butchered at 6-8 weeks old (believe me, at that age they are HUGE) or they will die of heart attacks, as their hearts and blood vessels can’t keep up with their growth rate. Do some research. I would suggest the “Storey’s Guide to Raising Chickens”. They also have guides to raising beef cattle, milk cows, pigs, sheep, dairy goats, meat goats, bees, rabbits, horses, etc. The Storey’s guides cover EVERYTHING: different breeds, housing (including different types of housing and how to build it), feed requirements, veterinary care, etc.

Chickens don’t require much room; rabbits and goats can also be kept on a smaller amount of land, but if you are planning on cattle as well as garden area to sustain your group, as well as pasture/hay production, grain fields, etc., as well as housing needs for your group, you should probably consider more than just 2-5 acres.

For food production, you might also want to look into aquaponics to help maximize your yields. in aquaponics, you are raising fish in tandem with plants in a series of “grow beds”; the fish waste water feeds and waters the plants, which in turn filter and clean the water, which is then returned to the fish tank. It’s a very efficient system, and uses less water than traditional gardening. Your main “inputs” (after the initial startup) are water to “top off” the water lost to evaporation and transpiration (housing the system in a greenhouse can help to reduce evaporation loss), food for the fish, and electricity to run the pump and tank heater (depending on fish species, and mainly in winter)

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JANUARY 2017 – What did you do to prep this week/month?

January 17, 2017 IceFire 0

Spent the day today pounding in T-posts and expanding the fencing to include the new garden area. Had to pull up some of the old thinner t-posts (others were broken, due to the wind) and move the existing fencing from the back of the original garden area to incorporate the new area; then wired on additional fencing (the old fencing from the corral that we’d had to replace because the horses were SITTING on it and pulling it down) to finish the area. Husband used the backhoe on the tractor to remove the two mesquite stumps I found while working. Only thing left to do now is to add in the additional “rabbit guard” fencing to the bottom where I had run out, and to use one of the old, broken t-posts on the loose section to make a gate. (I left a 14-foot wide space so that we can drive the tractor in or a truck with building supplies for building the greenhouses. The space is currently temporarily closed with the overlapping wire fencing, but it needs a post at the end so that I can secure the closure but still open it easily when needed.)

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: Shall we play a game, II?

January 17, 2017 IceFire 0

Protesters wouldn’t bother coming down to our area. First, because it’s WAY too far off the beaten path; second, because there are WAY more conservatives than libs around here; and third, because they’d probably get LOST just trying to find their way here. Lastly, since there are so many people who do carry (gotta LOVE being in a “Constitutional Carry” state!) and openly at that, they’d probably wet their britches before running back to their “safe spaces”.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New to forum

January 17, 2017 IceFire 0

Mountain mama, perterjoe was a spammer. He AND his spam have been removed.

Welcome, Daisychicky! Hang in there…it took my husband quite a while to come around, but he’s FINALLY on board now. It just took BOTH of us losing our jobs at the same time for him to finally understand WHY I prep, and to realize that BECAUSE I prep, we were able to get through until we were working again. Fortunately, our oldest daughter (who is TOTALLY on board) now has a guy who is ALSO totally on board, so that gives us extra hands for getting things done.

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Check In Here Oregon Preppers • Re: New to Springfield, Oregon

January 16, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome to APN, and Thank You for your service! For information on getting started check out the “Getting Started – the Basics” subforum here. There is a LOT of good information there to help get you started. Food and water are always the best place to start (you can’t live long without either one), and starting your preps there WON’T break the bank! For food, you don’t have to buy a lot of expensive stuff…just get a little extra of things that you usually eat every time you shop…rice, beans, pasta, canned goods, etc. all store well and your body is already used to eating them. Don’t forget the spices. One of the WORST things you can do when things go south is to all of a sudden start eating things that you’re not used to…good way to get a bad case of the runs.

For water, I rinse out the flat-sided juice bottles (like the ones that cranberry juice come in), run them through the dish washer, then re-fill with filtered tap water. The flat sides means that they can be laid on their side in the back of a closet, and even stacked. GREAT way to store water inexpensively. There are further tips in the “Getting Started” section.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 16, 2017 IceFire 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

Gunns wrote:These aren’t protesters. They are rioters and should be put down. Plain and simple.

Do you say the same thing about college football celebrations?

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Any time a “celebration”, “protest” or other event turns from a peaceful assembly to destruction of property, physical harm to others, etc., it is a RIOT, and needs to be addressed as such, with the “participants” arrested and thrown in jail, NOT coddled and given their ‘safe spaces”. Where is everyone ELSE’s “safe space”?

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Greetings from Texas!

January 14, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from “Baja” Arizona! There are quite a few sub-forums here that may answer some of your questions. I suggest starting in the “Getting Started – the Basics” section, and then move on from there. There are plenty of us on here who have been at it for quite a while, so by all means, if you can’t find answers to your questions, then ASK!

Welcome aboard.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:57 pm