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General Family Preparedness • Re: How do preppers keep from losing their minds?

April 19, 2017 IceFire 0
arkieready wrote:
Do you really think any of these primitive memory devices will still be around or working in ten years? Swamp

Exactly! Electronic entertainment is great for a short short term issue. Snowstorm, t-storm that takes out power. Until everyone’s stuff needs charging all at once….
Look at the “catastrophe” for some when dishnetwork cuts out. Or Facebook won’t do whatever it does.

Get weaned off the electronic tit, ok?

We “old farts” who grew up WITHOUT the electronic umbilical cords will undoubtedly have a MUCH easier time of it than the youngsters who never knew life without their electronic toys. I noticed that the kids at the High School where I subbed couldn’t even make it through a single class period without their devices.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: How do preppers keep from losing their minds?

April 19, 2017 IceFire 0
arkieready wrote:
Do you really think any of these primitive memory devices will still be around or working in ten years? Swamp

Exactly! Electronic entertainment is great for a short short term issue. Snowstorm, t-storm that takes out power. Until everyone’s stuff needs charging all at once….
Look at the “catastrophe” for some when dishnetwork cuts out. Or Facebook won’t do whatever it does.

Get weaned off the electronic tit, ok?

We “old farts” who grew up WITHOUT the electronic umbilical cords will undoubtedly have a MUCH easier time of it than the youngsters who never knew life without their electronic toys. I noticed that the kids at the High School where I subbed couldn’t even make it through a single class period without their devices.

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Michigan Meetups • Re: Northern Lower Peninsula Meet Up

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Michigan preppers (heck, preppers in EVERY state!) are probably like preppers here in my corner of Arizona. 99.9% of preppers here are NOT on the forums. There are a whole lot more of them out there than you know. Many don’t even CALL themselves “preppers”, but that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing. Use your powers of observation, and learn to listen for “key words and phrases” that will give them away. They’re out there…you just need to learn how to “find” them.

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Michigan Meetups • Re: Northern Lower Peninsula Meet Up

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Michigan preppers (heck, preppers in EVERY state!) are probably like preppers here in my corner of Arizona. 99.9% of preppers here are NOT on the forums. There are a whole lot more of them out there than you know. Many don’t even CALL themselves “preppers”, but that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing. Use your powers of observation, and learn to listen for “key words and phrases” that will give them away. They’re out there…you just need to learn how to “find” them.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:13 pm


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Guns • Re: Rusty AR barrel

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Glad to see you back, longrifle! Truck/motorcycle “disagreements” can be VERY nasty, with the MC usually losing the argument. Hope you’re fully recovered, or at least mostly so.

Some ammo is “dirtier” than others, and needs more serious cleaning of the bore than with “cleaner” ammo, or corrosion can definitely be an issue. Whenever we shoot, (especially with the “dirtier” ammo) we take our guns OUTSIDE (because this is MESSY and you do NOT want to be doing it in the house!) spray Break-Free CLP down BOTH ends of the barrel until it is DRIPPING, then let is “set for several minutes to soak in. After that, we use the copper wire “brush” rod attachment, and scrub it REALLY well, follow up with bore snake/wool mop, then run a patch through. If it comes out dirty, repeat until the patch comes out clean.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:05 pm


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Guns • Re: Rusty AR barrel

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Glad to see you back, longrifle! Truck/motorcycle “disagreements” can be VERY nasty, with the MC usually losing the argument. Hope you’re fully recovered, or at least mostly so.

Some ammo is “dirtier” than others, and needs more serious cleaning of the bore than with “cleaner” ammo, or corrosion can definitely be an issue. Whenever we shoot, (especially with the “dirtier” ammo) we take our guns OUTSIDE (because this is MESSY and you do NOT want to be doing it in the house!) spray Break-Free CLP down BOTH ends of the barrel until it is DRIPPING, then let is “set for several minutes to soak in. After that, we use the copper wire “brush” rod attachment, and scrub it REALLY well, follow up with bore snake/wool mop, then run a patch through. If it comes out dirty, repeat until the patch comes out clean.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:05 pm


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Introduce Yourself • Re: Hello everyone!

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from SE Arizona. Get out of “Commiefornia” as fast as you can! Arizona is MUCH more “prep friendly”, PLUS we are VERY gun-friendly. “Constitutional Carry” state means you don’t NEED to have a CCW, but if you want to get one, you can, unless you are a “prohibited person”…felon, not US citizen, etc. AND, if you DO have a CCW, when you go to purchase a firearm, instead of calling in and waiting for a NICS check, they put your CCW number in the approval line. Without one, you go through the NICS check every time.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Hello everyone!

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from SE Arizona. Get out of “Commiefornia” as fast as you can! Arizona is MUCH more “prep friendly”, PLUS we are VERY gun-friendly. “Constitutional Carry” state means you don’t NEED to have a CCW, but if you want to get one, you can, unless you are a “prohibited person”…felon, not US citizen, etc. AND, if you DO have a CCW, when you go to purchase a firearm, instead of calling in and waiting for a NICS check, they put your CCW number in the approval line. Without one, you go through the NICS check every time.

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Check In Here California Preppers • Re: Hello Everyone!

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from SE Arizona. Why in the WORLD would you leave Arizona for “Commiefornia”? Come back to AZ…MUCH more “prep” friendly here, PLUS we have Constitutional Carry, and if you want to get a CCW, you CAN! (Unless you’re a felon, that is.)

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Check In Here California Preppers • Re: Hello Everyone!

April 18, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from SE Arizona. Why in the WORLD would you leave Arizona for “Commiefornia”? Come back to AZ…MUCH more “prep” friendly here, PLUS we have Constitutional Carry, and if you want to get a CCW, you CAN! (Unless you’re a felon, that is.)

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New to APN, not to prepping, but here I am.

April 16, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome from SE Arizona! Yes, the majority of us here understand that when the excrement hits the oscillating device, things are going to get UGLY, and the main part of that ugly will be from our fellow human beings. Just look at how idiotic people act near Christmas, fighting over the latest “hot” toy for the kiddos. Now, multiply that by a factor of 1,000. NOT pretty.

A lot of us are trying to prepare for ourselves and our families, and even trying to form a community of like-minded people. Some of us have already relocated to a more rural area (I wouldn’t want to be anywhere NEAR a large city, or even a small one, when “it” happens) and are working on developing “homesteads” that are as self-sufficient as possible. Others are in more urban areas, but are preparing to the best of their ability. Everyone’s situation is different, but it STARTS with having a PLAN.

Hopefully, we’ll never *need* to put that plan into action, but I’m not holding my breath.

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Okie’s Law • Re: How do preppers keep from losing their minds?

April 16, 2017 IceFire 0
arkieready wrote:
Realizing all the work to be done, and setting it aside for to answer OP’s question:
Cards, dominos, real books, pens and paper, textile arts ( knitting, crocheting, sewing, weaving) for quiet times.
A good assortment of acoustic instruments like guitars, mandolin, fiddle, Irish (tin) whistle, harmonicas, glockenspiel (really!) and a small accordion for times when we can make a joyful noise unto The Lord!! Plus music books.

THIS! I also have a good supply of art supplies (paint–oils, acrylic; pastels; charcoal and charcoal pencils; colored pencils; sketchbooks/sketchpads; canvas pads; brushes; etc.) books (both “homesteading/gardening/livestock” books, as well as classics, novels, music books, cookbooks, etc) musical instruments (guitar, harmonica, Native American flutes, clarinet) LOTS of fabric for sewing/quilting (also a working treadle machine, for sewing without electric power)

However, I figure I’ll be so busy with the garden, livestock, canning whatever I harvest, etc. I won’t have TIME to be bored. By the time I get done with all the WORK, I’ll be ready to fall into bed, just to get up and start over again the next day.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: April 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep Todayhis Week?

April 11, 2017 IceFire 0

When we got home from work today, we spent about 3 hours re-doing the fence around the “dog yard”, since I got a call at work this morning from Animal Control…seems my “Houdini dog” first climbed the fence around the dog yard, THEN got out of the fence around the property. Animal control picked her up, then called me, so I ended up having to leave work to go meet up with the ACO back at the house to retrieve the miscreant. NOT what I had planned on doing this evening.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: April 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep Todayhis Week?

April 11, 2017 IceFire 0

When we got home from work today, we spent about 3 hours re-doing the fence around the “dog yard”, since I got a call at work this morning from Animal Control…seems my “Houdini dog” first climbed the fence around the dog yard, THEN got out of the fence around the property. Animal control picked her up, then called me, so I ended up having to leave work to go meet up with the ACO back at the house to retrieve the miscreant. NOT what I had planned on doing this evening.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: April 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep Todayhis Week?

April 9, 2017 IceFire 0

Congrats on the weight loss, Cin!

We got more of the uprights and crossbeams done on the stable…one more upright/crossbeam to go for the first half of the stable, then we’ll start with roofing and siding before starting on the other side….the way we’re doing it, we have two stalls on each side, with a corridor down the middle, so we can do it in halves. Today after church, husband plans on roofing the middle part that connects the two sides of the greenhouse, then I can “wrap” the whole thing with the ag plastic. After that, the only thing left to finish it off will be the door and the area on the ends under the peak…easy enough to do.

My broody hen is sitting on about 2 dozen eggs….every time she gets off the nest in the morning to go eat, the other hens start adding more eggs to the pile! I think I’m going to end up cleaning out the pen in the garden where I had the turkey and moving the two roosters over there, then moving the broody and her clutch over to the separate area, just so that the rest stop adding more eggs to the pile! Hopefully, once we get the stable up, I’ll be able to get the new coops built, which will alleviate the problem.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: April 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep Todayhis Week?

April 8, 2017 IceFire 0

Cin, not trying to “outshine” anyone, but I’ve been feeling such a “pressure” as it were to get as much accomplished as possible that I’ve been scrambling to try to get things moving along. The horse/stock trailer was a lucky find…we went to the ranch store after dinner, and husband saw the ad…he told daughter to pull the phone number for me. The size was exactly what I had been looking for (ever since we got the horses a year and a half ago), the price was right, and I had the funds, so I jumped on it.

Now if I can just get everything ELSE on my horrendously long list accomplished, I’ll feel MUCH better!

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0

Hard wheat has a higher protein content than soft wheat and rises better, which is why it is preferred for bread. “All-Purpose” flour is a combination of hard and soft wheats. In order to make all-purpose or soft wheat more suitable for making bread, you can add “Vital Wheat Gluten” to boost the protein content and allow it to rise better.

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0

Hard wheat has a higher protein content than soft wheat and rises better, which is why it is preferred for bread. “All-Purpose” flour is a combination of hard and soft wheats. In order to make all-purpose or soft wheat more suitable for making bread, you can add “Vital Wheat Gluten” to boost the protein content and allow it to rise better.

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0
kappydell wrote:
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YES! I have red wheat & whole dent corn from feed stores…I think what decided me is when one of the feed store employees ‘confessed’ he (as well as other employees) were feeding their own families from the feed store grain. (We swapped recipes…)
Of course not all feed stores carry the same things so you might have to ask around….I had to go to a more rural area to get wheat. It was as good as the health food store stuff, just smaller kernels.

I go to 2 different feed stores (haven’t checked what the other feed stores carry–we have a LOT of feed stores in my area) one carries wheat, barley, corn, and milo; the other carries the oats. Most of it is pretty clean…just the occasional piece of chaff, and I’ve sometimes found a bit of corn in the oats, since the mills process/store multiple types of grain. It’s easy enough to pull out the “UFOs” (“unauthorized” foreign objects.) Paying in the neighborhood of $12-$15 for 50 pounds and picking out an occasional UFO and putting it in buckets myself definitely beats paying well over $1 per pound for the pre-packaged grains any day, in my book.

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Food & Water • Re: WHEAT – Price per pound?

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0
kappydell wrote:
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YES! I have red wheat & whole dent corn from feed stores…I think what decided me is when one of the feed store employees ‘confessed’ he (as well as other employees) were feeding their own families from the feed store grain. (We swapped recipes…)
Of course not all feed stores carry the same things so you might have to ask around….I had to go to a more rural area to get wheat. It was as good as the health food store stuff, just smaller kernels.

I go to 2 different feed stores (haven’t checked what the other feed stores carry–we have a LOT of feed stores in my area) one carries wheat, barley, corn, and milo; the other carries the oats. Most of it is pretty clean…just the occasional piece of chaff, and I’ve sometimes found a bit of corn in the oats, since the mills process/store multiple types of grain. It’s easy enough to pull out the “UFOs” (“unauthorized” foreign objects.) Paying in the neighborhood of $12-$15 for 50 pounds and picking out an occasional UFO and putting it in buckets myself definitely beats paying well over $1 per pound for the pre-packaged grains any day, in my book.

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Livestock and more • Re: Guinea pigs as livestock??????

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0
Cast Iron wrote:

IceFire wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:Thank you very much for that information.

I am actually looking at getting a buck this week.

Make sure you keep him well downwind! When we brought our little buckling home, he stank from the two bucks in the herd. After a couple of days, however, the “billy goat funk” was gone (thankfully) Once the hormones kick in, however, the stank will return. Bucks have two sets of “scent” glands…one set where you’d expect it…near the “nether portions.” To make sure that their scent will “surround” them so as to attract the “ladies”, a buck will pee on the backs of his front legs, as well as on his beard! The OTHER billy goat scent glands are located at the back of the head, behind the horns. Those scent gland pretty much are inactive until a buck goes into rut. Then the stink will begin. A wether (castrated male) will NOT develop the stink as long as you get the deed done BEFORE he gets old enough to develop those hormones.

If you do decide to castrate a buckling, it is really easy. There is a tool that has 4 prongs, over which you place the bands. Then, just open it up to stretch the band, then place it over the sac, close to the body (just make sure that you don’t catch the vestigial teats in there) close it enough to get the band off the prongs, and that’s it. The bank will cut off the circulation, to the testicles, and in a couple of weeks, they will fall off (much like a baby’s umbilical cord does.) The best thing about that method is that you don’t have the risk of infection like you would if they were cut off. He’ll just walk a little funny for a few days. :p

Ok.
Now I get the smell.

The upside, he is already trying to service two of the girls.
This is what we bought him for so all is well.

It’s great that he’s already trying to do what you bought him for. One other thing…if you plan on milking the does after the kids are born, then DEFINITELY keep the buck well downwind…the “billy goat funk” can actually taint the milk. That’s why goat milk frequently tastes funky. If you watch what the girls eat (I give mine alfalfa and a grain mix of wheat, oats, milo, and sunflower seed) they are a breed with a high butterfat content (LaManchas and Nubians have a good butterfat content) and keep the buck far, FAR away from the girls, the milk should just taste like really rich cows milk. “Funky” taste is a good indication that the buck is in too close proximity. Unless, of course, you LIKE the taste of billy goat funk…. :p

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Livestock and more • Re: Guinea pigs as livestock??????

April 6, 2017 IceFire 0
Cast Iron wrote:

IceFire wrote:

Cast Iron wrote:Thank you very much for that information.

I am actually looking at getting a buck this week.

Make sure you keep him well downwind! When we brought our little buckling home, he stank from the two bucks in the herd. After a couple of days, however, the “billy goat funk” was gone (thankfully) Once the hormones kick in, however, the stank will return. Bucks have two sets of “scent” glands…one set where you’d expect it…near the “nether portions.” To make sure that their scent will “surround” them so as to attract the “ladies”, a buck will pee on the backs of his front legs, as well as on his beard! The OTHER billy goat scent glands are located at the back of the head, behind the horns. Those scent gland pretty much are inactive until a buck goes into rut. Then the stink will begin. A wether (castrated male) will NOT develop the stink as long as you get the deed done BEFORE he gets old enough to develop those hormones.

If you do decide to castrate a buckling, it is really easy. There is a tool that has 4 prongs, over which you place the bands. Then, just open it up to stretch the band, then place it over the sac, close to the body (just make sure that you don’t catch the vestigial teats in there) close it enough to get the band off the prongs, and that’s it. The bank will cut off the circulation, to the testicles, and in a couple of weeks, they will fall off (much like a baby’s umbilical cord does.) The best thing about that method is that you don’t have the risk of infection like you would if they were cut off. He’ll just walk a little funny for a few days. :p

Ok.
Now I get the smell.

The upside, he is already trying to service two of the girls.
This is what we bought him for so all is well.

It’s great that he’s already trying to do what you bought him for. One other thing…if you plan on milking the does after the kids are born, then DEFINITELY keep the buck well downwind…the “billy goat funk” can actually taint the milk. That’s why goat milk frequently tastes funky. If you watch what the girls eat (I give mine alfalfa and a grain mix of wheat, oats, milo, and sunflower seed) they are a breed with a high butterfat content (LaManchas and Nubians have a good butterfat content) and keep the buck far, FAR away from the girls, the milk should just taste like really rich cows milk. “Funky” taste is a good indication that the buck is in too close proximity. Unless, of course, you LIKE the taste of billy goat funk…. :p

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Construction Cornerstone • Re: Hide in plain sight OR Wall around home

April 4, 2017 IceFire 0

Either one has drawbacks.

The problem with the walled home is that people know the home is there, and will figure that if you’ve bothered to put that kind of a wall around your home, you MUST have something that would make it worth their attempt to breach said wall.

As for the bunker in the woods, WHO owns the woods where said bunker would be located? Also, having the traps everywhere could be a liability issue pre-SHTF, and whether you do (or especially if you DON’T own the property,) you’d be in deep doo-doo if anyone stumbled across your bunker or got hurt by your traps.

Statistics: Posted by IceFire — Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:42 pm