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General Family Preparedness • Re: I saw that Trump’s Cabinet’ net worth is = to a third of

January 23, 2017 Gunns 0
anita wrote:

PatrioticStabilist wrote:I always remember the tax laws are made by and for the rich. That’s how they get, keep, and increase their wealth.

We were on the fringes of high income for quite a few years and the tax laws available to shelter income were unbelievable at that time even for us. And the more you made the better it got. That’s why people say oh the wealthy are paying 39% of their income in taxes, oh please, they are likely paying nothing and getting huge refunds or carryforwards. It makes a huge difference when all your w2 income is fully taxed and theirs is not.. No wonder they get and keep their wealth. Plus the tax planning people fix it so they can take advantage of all that.

I think we are in a world of hurt and even in the next 4 years will see the poor get poorer. I believe the wealthy he has selected are a power hungry bunch and will only line their pockets even more. Would be nice to believe they care about us, if that were true the people that work for them would be rich or very well off too. But once any of them get that high up its all about number 1 anyway, there may be a few exceptions but likely rare.

PS, Please share your tax strategies that allowed you to shelter income. We’d all like to do the same. My husband, as a small business owner, made significant income, and we experienced no such advantage in taxes. The only reason we got a refund is because he over-withheld because he didn’t want to get hit with penalties. (In other words, we got our own money back that we shouldn’t have paid in the first place.)

Also, please share the details on how you know what wealthy people are paying on their taxes. Are you their accountant??

Interesting fact:

In 2012, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers (69.2 million filers) paid 97.2 percent of all income taxes while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.8 percent.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:45 am

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General Family Preparedness • Re: A new day, a new leader, a direction less traveled

January 23, 2017 Gunns 0

I did not support Trump either. My choices were Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.

I am for small government. I mean really dang small. I am also for slashing the military. The military spends nearly 600 Billion a year. I would slash that to 1/3rd or less.

Concentrate on keeping R&D, a few of each of the best and promise the world we would use our Nukes if provoked. OK OK I am a vet and liked the service but its time we worry about the budget.

I would also slash Social Security. I would look at the persons personal wealth and if they have the money, stop their SS payments. Tough choice to make but what the heck. I have two brothers that don’t take theirs and those same two could get disability from the Military and do NOT.

Welfare would be mandatory drug testing. You fail the test, you don’t get the money. Also it would require retraining for the job market, fail that, lose the money.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:37 am

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Horse diapers

January 23, 2017 Gunns 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
You are driving along the interstate. You pull off at a rest stop to relieve yourself. You go into the bathroom only to find a horse and owner at the diaper changing station. You can’t get around the horse, so you go outside to use the doggie relief station. You get arrested for indecent exposure and being off your leash.
And this isn’t the only legal problem. Are mares supposed to only use the ladies’ room. What if the owner (diaper changer) is a man?
What if the horse is a gelding? Will the Supreme Court have to rule on this?

Just say NO to horse diapers!! Sounds like a load of horse sh-t to me.


What about horse bathrooms only? Male, Female and other?

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:26 am

Guns • Re: LaserLyte?

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
JC1 wrote:
I got an ITarget for Christmas and love it. I can’t wait to see if it’ll help improve my shooting with live rounds. If nothing else it’s great entertainment (specially when the closest range is outdoor with 3 feet of snow.) :gunshooting:

Well I set up my itarget. The laser shoots high, I mean like 7 inches high. It is misaligned big time. Have to send it back. Dang.

Oh by the way, my shot groups in real life are just a bit low and left of center.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:48 pm


Growing food indoors • Re: Indoor gardening

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
jean11 wrote:
Angela, I think if it was my decision to make I wouldn’t do it. I don’t think the small amount of window area is going to give you much of a return in vegetables. If you cannot garden in the backyard, I’d try the front yard or side yard, although I don’t know your living situation, house or apartment, etc. Also you might look into a community garden in your area.

She could grow all the herbs and spices she ever needs in window gardens.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:31 am


Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
Cast Iron wrote:

PatrioticStabilist wrote:Because the non disclosure stuff sounds exactly like tactics he has used before. He has been way out there on all the stuff he does, I can see him doing something like this. I don’t trust him anymore then any of them. He supposedly is making all kinds of plans, the repubs don’t have a clue what he is planning, he is going to need the people of his party to do anything, he is alienating way to many people. Maybe he has a lot of dirt on them and can make them vote his way.

Still no matter who does any destruction, I do not agree with that.

I signed NDAs when I left the military, and most jobs.

Does that make them all Trump supporters? This was many years ago by the way.

Your logic is lacking.

But your speculation is great.

Man a year never goes by that I don’t sigh an NDA.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:50 am


General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
Hope some do, everyone should be prepared for financial issues, health issues, weather events, or just unexpected problems that go with life.

It’s not as easy as it sounds, takes commitment, unless like me, I grew up prepping before it was called prepping, for us it was a matter of survival and it just continues. My husband’s family did not live like we did though they were very frugal. We were much more self reliant from necessity. So both of us brought parts of prepping to our marriage, DIY, saving money, planning for the future, having skills to keep us going instead of depending on others, living a life with deferred gratification, that’s why we are so late doing a lot. But it did work, now if we can live to enjoy what we sowed. We can survive pretty much anything long as we can maintain our health, at our age that is one variable you can’t control.

Frugal. That’s a word used to describe me and my wife. Guess that is why we have no debt now. We never collected stuff for the sake of stuff. Only what we needed in most cases.

Can’t control your age either. I am finding that out first hand.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:44 am

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 17, 2017 Gunns 0
RayMac1963 wrote:
THAT is absolutely ridiculous BK. How can they come up with that kind of money? and better yet why? I wouldn’t believe it in my rational mind without links, because it just doesn’t make sense. I humbly stand corrected. :crazy:

On the other hand, we do throw around money in other counties to stir up rebellions with the CIA and other black bag ops… could we be the victim of a larger plot?

Soros. Has spent billions on destroying capitalism and western society.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:39 am