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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0
ForwardPreppers wrote:
Something else would be a pickled relish such as chow chow, pickled peppers or stewed tomatoes. I had a lot of tomatoes this year so I pickled some. In reading recipes from blogs, pickled veggies were/are popular in places such as Russia. They’re good for digestion and offer some of your summer bounty in the winter. My son and I figured all that would be good with beans and rice.
The hubs recently started a Tbsp. Of Braggs vinegar each night in a small glass of water. Says it helps his gut. I’m thinking it would help gut issues should a diet change be necessary. Any all natural vinegar with the “mother” would work. Braggs is very popular but there are other brands.

Mrs. FP

I like this idea. Finally got my wife interested canning our tomatoes this year. Easing her into canning again. I can do it myself but if she isn’t interested she won’t want the jars around.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:55 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0
ForwardPreppers wrote:
Something else would be a pickled relish such as chow chow, pickled peppers or stewed tomatoes. I had a lot of tomatoes this year so I pickled some. In reading recipes from blogs, pickled veggies were/are popular in places such as Russia. They’re good for digestion and offer some of your summer bounty in the winter. My son and I figured all that would be good with beans and rice.
The hubs recently started a Tbsp. Of Braggs vinegar each night in a small glass of water. Says it helps his gut. I’m thinking it would help gut issues should a diet change be necessary. Any all natural vinegar with the “mother” would work. Braggs is very popular but there are other brands.

Mrs. FP

I like this idea. Finally got my wife interested canning our tomatoes this year. Easing her into canning again. I can do it myself but if she isn’t interested she won’t want the jars around.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:55 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0
ForwardPreppers wrote:
Something else would be a pickled relish such as chow chow, pickled peppers or stewed tomatoes. I had a lot of tomatoes this year so I pickled some. In reading recipes from blogs, pickled veggies were/are popular in places such as Russia. They’re good for digestion and offer some of your summer bounty in the winter. My son and I figured all that would be good with beans and rice.
The hubs recently started a Tbsp. Of Braggs vinegar each night in a small glass of water. Says it helps his gut. I’m thinking it would help gut issues should a diet change be necessary. Any all natural vinegar with the “mother” would work. Braggs is very popular but there are other brands.

Mrs. FP

I like this idea. Finally got my wife interested canning our tomatoes this year. Easing her into canning again. I can do it myself but if she isn’t interested she won’t want the jars around.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:55 am


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General Food Topics • Re: Electric vs Gas Operated Stoves and Ovens

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0

When we got our homestead it was all electric. What we did cost a bit but we thought it was necessary not just for prepping but for living day to day.

We had 2, 1,000 gallon LP tanks buried, installed a whole house gen, ran gas to the house and had the range and water heater changed to gas.

Our first year here we lost power 13 times and I made a living online so I had to go outside and set up the Honda 2000 gen in the rain and storm. Got sick of that real fast. Since we did the whole house gen we lost power several times and its kicked on every time. Last summer during a particular nasty hot spell we lost power for 3.5 days while our neighbors down the road suffered we had everything working.

Now we understand that during SHTF scenario I will have to shut down the whole house gen, but I would still have a gas stove and water heater. I have a well and it wouldnt be difficult to hook back into the house and run the pump on the Honda when we wanted water pressure and hot water. Looking to install a solar system for the pump.

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General Food Topics • Re: Electric vs Gas Operated Stoves and Ovens

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0

When we got our homestead it was all electric. What we did cost a bit but we thought it was necessary not just for prepping but for living day to day.

We had 2, 1,000 gallon LP tanks buried, installed a whole house gen, ran gas to the house and had the range and water heater changed to gas.

Our first year here we lost power 13 times and I made a living online so I had to go outside and set up the Honda 2000 gen in the rain and storm. Got sick of that real fast. Since we did the whole house gen we lost power several times and its kicked on every time. Last summer during a particular nasty hot spell we lost power for 3.5 days while our neighbors down the road suffered we had everything working.

Now we understand that during SHTF scenario I will have to shut down the whole house gen, but I would still have a gas stove and water heater. I have a well and it wouldnt be difficult to hook back into the house and run the pump on the Honda when we wanted water pressure and hot water. Looking to install a solar system for the pump.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:51 am


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General Food Topics • Re: Electric vs Gas Operated Stoves and Ovens

July 29, 2017 Gunns 0

When we got our homestead it was all electric. What we did cost a bit but we thought it was necessary not just for prepping but for living day to day.

We had 2, 1,000 gallon LP tanks buried, installed a whole house gen, ran gas to the house and had the range and water heater changed to gas.

Our first year here we lost power 13 times and I made a living online so I had to go outside and set up the Honda 2000 gen in the rain and storm. Got sick of that real fast. Since we did the whole house gen we lost power several times and its kicked on every time. Last summer during a particular nasty hot spell we lost power for 3.5 days while our neighbors down the road suffered we had everything working.

Now we understand that during SHTF scenario I will have to shut down the whole house gen, but I would still have a gas stove and water heater. I have a well and it wouldnt be difficult to hook back into the house and run the pump on the Honda when we wanted water pressure and hot water. Looking to install a solar system for the pump.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 15, 2017 Gunns 0
IceFire wrote:

Gunns wrote:

IceFire wrote:Being in the Southwest, rice and beans are pretty much “staple” items here. Not only that, but mixing beans and rice form a complete protein. We eat them frequently. I’ve never noticed the combination to clog me up.

Well bless your heart. I was brought up meat and potatoes. Guess my insides are geared that way.

I was brought up meat and potatoes, too, Gunns. I’ve adapted since marrying someone from the Southwest, and then moving here. Your insides CAN adjust, it’s just easier on you if you ease them into it.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 14, 2017 Gunns 0
IceFire wrote:
Being in the Southwest, rice and beans are pretty much “staple” items here. Not only that, but mixing beans and rice form a complete protein. We eat them frequently. I’ve never noticed the combination to clog me up.

Well bless your heart. I was brought up meat and potatoes. Guess my insides are geared that way.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 14, 2017 Gunns 0
IceFire wrote:
Being in the Southwest, rice and beans are pretty much “staple” items here. Not only that, but mixing beans and rice form a complete protein. We eat them frequently. I’ve never noticed the combination to clog me up.

Well bless your heart. I was brought up meat and potatoes. Guess my insides are geared that way.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 12, 2017 Gunns 0
Genevieve wrote:

Gunns wrote:

Genevieve wrote:add your greens hon “roughage” makes the world go round

Agreed and I do. However, if SHTF roughage won’t last long.

why not? :?

lambs quarters, dandelion, land cress, etc will still be around and you can harvest their seeds to grow them yourself

I hope you are right. I am just thinking we may not have time to go around harvesting anything at first. You may be on a diet of what you have stored for months before wanting to venture around outside.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Grooming

July 12, 2017 Gunns 0

I got plenty of razor blades, scissors for the hair. I will try to at least shave twice a week. Keeping as clean as possible is important.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • UK’s Run Hide Tell video

July 12, 2017 Gunns 0

So pretty much in the UK they say you should run away from the attackers, hide and call for help. Now granted, that is not entirely bad advice it does breed a victim hood populace and says that terror attacks are just a part of everyday life and should be expected.

I did however leave them a comment about if the victims run away from the attack, they may be running smack into a trap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VrwYJawxc

“Whilst the chances of being involved in a terror attack remain extremely rare, holidaymakers travelling abroad this summer are being urged to watch a new video designed to help keep them safe in the event of an incident.

With millions of sun-seekers expected to jet off over the coming months, counter terrorism police – in association with the Foreign Office and ABTA The Travel Association – have launched a new four minute film outlining what to do if caught up in an attack.

There is no specific intelligence that British holidaymakers will be targeted this summer but the launch of the film and supporting information is part of a general campaign to raise awareness among the public. It highlights the steps people can take to minimise the impact of an attack – including knowing the local emergency services number.

This innovative new approach encourages everyone to be prepared should the worst happen.

The central message is Run, Hide, Tell and was first launched by UK police in December 2015 after attacks in Paris. It was recently re-issued to the public by officers during London’s Borough Market incident.”

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: The truth about Rice and Beans

July 12, 2017 Gunns 0
daaswampman wrote:

Gunns wrote:Thanks for the responses. Brown rice doesn’t store long does it? I thought you could only get about 5 years of storage on it.

Apricots are a good idea. Freeze dried should store well plus the make great snacks. ( almost typed snakes)

I have read that brown rice does not store as well as white rice, but I have never had any that (went bad) or would know how to tell if it was bad! What I have noticed, is the older stuff needs to be soaked longer.

Perhaps I should try eating more white rice so I could experience that problem once? Nah I think I will just stay with soft and fluffy! Swamp

Great answer. How old is the brown rice you are eating? What kind of brown rice did you put up? I have to admit I am very ignorant when it comes to rice.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Nomadic People

July 12, 2017 Gunns 0

No. Abandoning your BOL and moving around makes you a bigger target. This isn’t some third world where no one has guns. Too many armed people in this country for nomadic living.

Now if a Mad Max scenario played out and most people were dead then maybe. But too few can live off the wild to make this a go. Even nomadic peoples have goats and other live stock they take with them.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
rickdun wrote:
Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

I bet. Only time I really sweat it was when I was in South Korea and facing me across the DMZ was a bunch of NK tanks. My zone was about 160 degrees. Was during the “Ax Murder incident”. Nothing happened of course but we were not amused.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
rickdun wrote:
Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

I bet. Only time I really sweat it was when I was in South Korea and facing me across the DMZ was a bunch of NK tanks. My zone was about 160 degrees. Was during the “Ax Murder incident”. Nothing happened of course but we were not amused.

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General Homesteading Topics • Re: Type of lime for an outhouse

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
Permafrost wrote:
I use wood ash. I have considered getting lime but the ash from my wood stove is free and needs to be dumped somewhere. It works somewhat, I guess. I still have a stalagmite/stalactite (whatever) in the outhouse come spring, but nothing works in the winter because everything is froze solid.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I imagine everything outside stays frozen in the winter where you are at.

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General Homesteading Topics • Re: Type of lime for an outhouse

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
Permafrost wrote:
I use wood ash. I have considered getting lime but the ash from my wood stove is free and needs to be dumped somewhere. It works somewhat, I guess. I still have a stalagmite/stalactite (whatever) in the outhouse come spring, but nothing works in the winter because everything is froze solid.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I imagine everything outside stays frozen in the winter where you are at.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
Permafrost wrote:
As much as I hare libs and would love to discount the idea all together, I do think it is a outside possibility if things get bad enough for them. Don’t get me wrong I hate them, they are trying to end my way of life because “fur is murder” and everyone should only eat imported plants instead of meat.

Two things chill my blood when I think of this.

One, there are a lot of these “people”. It is simple numbers, a group of 10 heavily armed men or women will not stand a chance against 1000 scrawny emaciated tree huggers. Granted the losses would be astronomical but in the end the numbers would overpower the heavily armed people. It would become a war of attrition, and it takes no time to become vegetarian cannon fodder but it takes months to train soldiers.

Two, there are a lot of fence sitters and they are armed. I even have to consider myself part of this group. These are the people who are actually in the middle on most issues. Most of these people could care less about gay rights or abortion or any of it, they like the status quo and do not want to rock the boat. My fear is that these people will throw their lot in with the liberals as soon as the conservatives go to far, and then it is not just the numbers but it is also armed people. For each one it will be a different trigger, a family member coming out or a rape that results in a abortion, but slowly they will align with the far left as politicians push to the right.

This gets compounded with the “moral” dilemma that will plague those who could care less but are expected to follow orders. How many people could pull the trigger on a unarmed (at least no firearms) person when they are ordered to protect some bank that foreclosed on their brother-in-laws house. This is why the occupy wall street people were allowed to go as far as they did, the people who were supposed to stop them had themselves been wronged by the institutions that needed protecting. Nobody wanted to shoot some guy throwing rocks at a bank because that bank had similarly screwed all the people that it needed to protect it. I imagine that a “new revolution” would go down the same way, and many could not stomach killing unarmed civilians. Look at the revolution in Ukraine, there may be a civil war now but at the time that power changed hands it was relatively bloodless as far as these things go.

On some level I think it might be good to have a limited confrontation, but once it starts I don’t think it will stop. If it was limited it would keep people from straying to far left or right, and the extremists on both sides would probably die. But again I don’t think it would be limited, and I’m sure there are many other angles I’m not seeing.

A very interesting thought exercise, thanks.

Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don’t recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
Permafrost wrote:
As much as I hare libs and would love to discount the idea all together, I do think it is a outside possibility if things get bad enough for them. Don’t get me wrong I hate them, they are trying to end my way of life because “fur is murder” and everyone should only eat imported plants instead of meat.

Two things chill my blood when I think of this.

One, there are a lot of these “people”. It is simple numbers, a group of 10 heavily armed men or women will not stand a chance against 1000 scrawny emaciated tree huggers. Granted the losses would be astronomical but in the end the numbers would overpower the heavily armed people. It would become a war of attrition, and it takes no time to become vegetarian cannon fodder but it takes months to train soldiers.

Two, there are a lot of fence sitters and they are armed. I even have to consider myself part of this group. These are the people who are actually in the middle on most issues. Most of these people could care less about gay rights or abortion or any of it, they like the status quo and do not want to rock the boat. My fear is that these people will throw their lot in with the liberals as soon as the conservatives go to far, and then it is not just the numbers but it is also armed people. For each one it will be a different trigger, a family member coming out or a rape that results in a abortion, but slowly they will align with the far left as politicians push to the right.

This gets compounded with the “moral” dilemma that will plague those who could care less but are expected to follow orders. How many people could pull the trigger on a unarmed (at least no firearms) person when they are ordered to protect some bank that foreclosed on their brother-in-laws house. This is why the occupy wall street people were allowed to go as far as they did, the people who were supposed to stop them had themselves been wronged by the institutions that needed protecting. Nobody wanted to shoot some guy throwing rocks at a bank because that bank had similarly screwed all the people that it needed to protect it. I imagine that a “new revolution” would go down the same way, and many could not stomach killing unarmed civilians. Look at the revolution in Ukraine, there may be a civil war now but at the time that power changed hands it was relatively bloodless as far as these things go.

On some level I think it might be good to have a limited confrontation, but once it starts I don’t think it will stop. If it was limited it would keep people from straying to far left or right, and the extremists on both sides would probably die. But again I don’t think it would be limited, and I’m sure there are many other angles I’m not seeing.

A very interesting thought exercise, thanks.

Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don’t recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0

You are asking hypothetically as in fiction?

Liberals will never do a Coup. A failed one maybe. They are trying to legitimatize the current president but they are failing in that regard as well.

Liberals would never allow Russia to help or drop onto our soil. Now they might allow Muslim countries to help them.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0

You are asking hypothetically as in fiction?

Liberals will never do a Coup. A failed one maybe. They are trying to legitimatize the current president but they are failing in that regard as well.

Liberals would never allow Russia to help or drop onto our soil. Now they might allow Muslim countries to help them.

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Gardening • Re: “Mittleider Method” Anyone doing this?Is it really worth

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0
kappydell wrote:
Looks like a way to use a surfeit of sawdust, and I don’t have that issue. Anything requiring that much amendment and tinkering is too complicated for me to depend on it. I’ll stick to dirt & compost, thank you. It never ceases to amaze me though, the new techniques someone dreams up. I always wonder how much money they make off that stuff. But then again I am a life long cynic.

No tinkering needed. Simple, safe and productive.

By the way this is NOT a new way. Its been used for over 100 years in one form or another. MGM does not discount using dirt as the medium. This methods feeds millions world wide that live in desolate places where organics are not as available. Like desert and rocky mountain areas. You should look up Dr Mittleider and the work he did for the poor.

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Gardening • Re: “Mittleider Method” Anyone doing this?Is it really worth

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0
kappydell wrote:
Looks like a way to use a surfeit of sawdust, and I don’t have that issue. Anything requiring that much amendment and tinkering is too complicated for me to depend on it. I’ll stick to dirt & compost, thank you. It never ceases to amaze me though, the new techniques someone dreams up. I always wonder how much money they make off that stuff. But then again I am a life long cynic.

No tinkering needed. Simple, safe and productive.

By the way this is NOT a new way. Its been used for over 100 years in one form or another. MGM does not discount using dirt as the medium. This methods feeds millions world wide that live in desolate places where organics are not as available. Like desert and rocky mountain areas. You should look up Dr Mittleider and the work he did for the poor.

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Gardening • Re: “Mittleider Method” Anyone doing this?Is it really worth

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0
kappydell wrote:
Looks like a way to use a surfeit of sawdust, and I don’t have that issue. Anything requiring that much amendment and tinkering is too complicated for me to depend on it. I’ll stick to dirt & compost, thank you. It never ceases to amaze me though, the new techniques someone dreams up. I always wonder how much money they make off that stuff. But then again I am a life long cynic.

No tinkering needed. Simple, safe and productive.

By the way this is NOT a new way. Its been used for over 100 years in one form or another. MGM does not discount using dirt as the medium. This methods feeds millions world wide that live in desolate places where organics are not as available. Like desert and rocky mountain areas. You should look up Dr Mittleider and the work he did for the poor.

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Gardening • Re: “Mittleider Method” Anyone doing this?Is it really worth

June 29, 2017 Gunns 0
kappydell wrote:
Looks like a way to use a surfeit of sawdust, and I don’t have that issue. Anything requiring that much amendment and tinkering is too complicated for me to depend on it. I’ll stick to dirt & compost, thank you. It never ceases to amaze me though, the new techniques someone dreams up. I always wonder how much money they make off that stuff. But then again I am a life long cynic.

No tinkering needed. Simple, safe and productive.

By the way this is NOT a new way. Its been used for over 100 years in one form or another. MGM does not discount using dirt as the medium. This methods feeds millions world wide that live in desolate places where organics are not as available. Like desert and rocky mountain areas. You should look up Dr Mittleider and the work he did for the poor.

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Gardening • Re: “Mittleider Method” Anyone doing this?Is it really worth

June 26, 2017 Gunns 0
daaswampman wrote:
I use this system in my greenhouse garden, it does work, but I feel it is too problematic and intensive for survival gardening. Deep mulch gardening is far simpler, less work, and can be used for larger scale and gorilla applications.

I would suggest finding a copy of The Ruth Stout No-Work Garden Book as a primer and then explore permaculture in general. My Armageddon Garden is now over six years old (maybe more-time flies), costs nothing to maintain and NEVER requires fertilizer or water! A good deal of up front work hauling mulch, but the rest is time and nature.

The best part is you can prepare a garden site years in advance and it just sits there unnoticed until needed. It’s how nature does it, but people still think they can improve on perfection. Swamp

I would argue in a SHTF scenario you may find yourself starving from plants diseases and insects. But thats just me. :innocent:

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:03 am