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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #3 (JUNE 2017)

June 20, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Gunns wrote:

Mollypup wrote:We’ve no idea who is funding NKs nuclear program. The country is not wealthy. It’s citizens are in really bad shape……… So, has anyone wondered & looked into who could be funding this?

NK funds its own nuclear program. There is no conspiracy here.

1. China buys all sorts of minerals from NK.
2. Overseas slave labor. NK is big time slaver of its people to other nations.
3. Weapons sales. Money from above is transferred to their weapons manufacturing which is done my slave labor. Big money in weapons sales.
4. Drugs. Huge. Biggest provider of Viagra on earth.
5. Cyber-crime. They make hundreds of millions of dollars every year.

And I’m willing to bet once NK feels like they have advertised their nuclear capability enough that they’ll be making a few devices available to select, well funded groups. :eek:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: OK: lets Talk About the Nasty Stuff-Hygiene

June 20, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Hand washing with a hand cloth is my plan until infrastructure comes back. Just enough water to wet the body and suds up, then rinse off with as little water as possible. Hauling water by hand is hard work, so I’m not about to commit 20+ gallons to a bathtub, at least not until things settle down…then maybe do it Japanese bathhouse style…wash first with minimal water then soak in a tub AFTER you’re clean.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 18, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Thanks trex, I’ll check out those links. I was just being paranoid and trying to say that pool water would be my last choice for a water source not that I’d tell people to not use it if that’s all you have.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 18, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Thanks trex, I’ll check out those links. I was just being paranoid and trying to say that pool water would be my last choice for a water source not that I’d tell people to not use it if that’s all you have.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
TRex2 wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

Well, that was part of the reason I said that, for drinking,
you should use a quality filter.
I can’t find any definite statement, but I would bet,
the Berkey filters use charcoal, or something like charcoal.

None of the chemicals listed as algicides in the wikpedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algaecide were listed on the black Berkey filter spec page I linked above. That makes me concerned.

The one thing I do know for sure about the black Berkey filters is that they aren’t just filled with activated charcoal like some filters (like the Brita filters.) Here is part of a FAQ I found on the filters:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/he … urces/faq/

What are the Black Berkey elements made out of and how do they work?

Without getting too complex, several methodologies are utilized by the Black Berkey purification elements. The elements are composed of a formulation of more than a half dozen different media types constructed into a very fine matrix creating millions of micro-fine pores. The pores are so small that pathogenic bacteria, cysts, parasites, sediment and sedimentary minerals are not able to pass through them. The media formulation both “absorbs” some contaminates and “adsorbs” other contaminates. Next, heavy metals ions (mineral molecules) are extracted through an Ion exchange process where they are essentially electrically bonded to the media. Finally, our filter elements are designed such that each water molecule can take several minutes to pass through the filter elements whereas these molecules passing through other filtration systems pass through those filters in literally microseconds. The longer the water molecules are in contact with any media, the greater the removal of the various contaminates.

So while it’s probably safe to drink pool water filtered by a black Berkey filter, since it’s not listed I’m not willing to risk it in all but the worst circumstances. I’ve got access to a river and other water sources that aren’t treated at all that I do trust the black Berkey filters to work with.

But if the pool water is your only source then you have to weigh the risks unless someone can find information that it will remove the algicides, or that there is another filter that says it definitely will remove them.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
TRex2 wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

Well, that was part of the reason I said that, for drinking,
you should use a quality filter.
I can’t find any definite statement, but I would bet,
the Berkey filters use charcoal, or something like charcoal.

None of the chemicals listed as algicides in the wikpedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algaecide were listed on the black Berkey filter spec page I linked above. That makes me concerned.

The one thing I do know for sure about the black Berkey filters is that they aren’t just filled with activated charcoal like some filters (like the Brita filters.) Here is part of a FAQ I found on the filters:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/he … urces/faq/

What are the Black Berkey elements made out of and how do they work?

Without getting too complex, several methodologies are utilized by the Black Berkey purification elements. The elements are composed of a formulation of more than a half dozen different media types constructed into a very fine matrix creating millions of micro-fine pores. The pores are so small that pathogenic bacteria, cysts, parasites, sediment and sedimentary minerals are not able to pass through them. The media formulation both “absorbs” some contaminates and “adsorbs” other contaminates. Next, heavy metals ions (mineral molecules) are extracted through an Ion exchange process where they are essentially electrically bonded to the media. Finally, our filter elements are designed such that each water molecule can take several minutes to pass through the filter elements whereas these molecules passing through other filtration systems pass through those filters in literally microseconds. The longer the water molecules are in contact with any media, the greater the removal of the various contaminates.

So while it’s probably safe to drink pool water filtered by a black Berkey filter, since it’s not listed I’m not willing to risk it in all but the worst circumstances. I’ve got access to a river and other water sources that aren’t treated at all that I do trust the black Berkey filters to work with.

But if the pool water is your only source then you have to weigh the risks unless someone can find information that it will remove the algicides, or that there is another filter that says it definitely will remove them.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Who Will Be Your Doctor?

June 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Don’t forget that in addition to who is going to be the medic in your group, you need to know who is the backup medic in case the primary person becomes injured or sick and can’t treat themselves let alone others.

I know it’s useful that I have medical preps, but I also keep basic instructions by each set of tools, tablets, etc so if I’m unable to provide care to our group that my wife or other competent adult has a clue. Doesn’t matter how much ORS powder, how many bottles of OTC meds, or how well my pet medicine cabinet is stocked if the backup medic doesn’t know what to use when….

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

???? ‘- lucky you if you EVER have that much to haul during a SHTF – target that big is hard to miss …. how’s a heavy garden cart taking you 5 miles down the road to Bartertown Flea Market for exchanging a few pounds of goods for another few pounds in return …. and like most people – hard to store – innocuous – SHTF only items aren’t going to cut it for preppers … you’re an anomaly having current day to day use – we use a thing called a truck ….

I am pretty lucky that I have room for occasional use only items. The garden cart gets used only a few times a year for moving things around during planting season and for fall cleanup. But it’s durable enough that I really got it to haul water. I’m not as young as I used to be and I don’t want to have to haul water by hand from the river every day if the SHTF. By having the cart I can haul 25 gallons back from the river and not have to worry about going back for a few days to a week depending on how many folks make it to my place.

And sure, if I was going to the local post SHTF flea market then I’d be a fool to bring a cart fully loaded with barter supplies, but I’m not a fool and have backpacks and smaller carts too. I plan on blending in and not being a juicy target – although a large part of that will be not going to any trading markets until well after things have stabilized. No reason to advertise I have more than others.

I just wanted folks to think about carts as well as bikes. Bikes give you range, but carts let you haul heavy stuff around – water, rocks/bricks, wood, or whatever.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

???? ‘- lucky you if you EVER have that much to haul during a SHTF – target that big is hard to miss …. how’s a heavy garden cart taking you 5 miles down the road to Bartertown Flea Market for exchanging a few pounds of goods for another few pounds in return …. and like most people – hard to store – innocuous – SHTF only items aren’t going to cut it for preppers … you’re an anomaly having current day to day use – we use a thing called a truck ….

I am pretty lucky that I have room for occasional use only items. The garden cart gets used only a few times a year for moving things around during planting season and for fall cleanup. But it’s durable enough that I really got it to haul water. I’m not as young as I used to be and I don’t want to have to haul water by hand from the river every day if the SHTF. By having the cart I can haul 25 gallons back from the river and not have to worry about going back for a few days to a week depending on how many folks make it to my place.

And sure, if I was going to the local post SHTF flea market then I’d be a fool to bring a cart fully loaded with barter supplies, but I’m not a fool and have backpacks and smaller carts too. I plan on blending in and not being a juicy target – although a large part of that will be not going to any trading markets until well after things have stabilized. No reason to advertise I have more than others.

I just wanted folks to think about carts as well as bikes. Bikes give you range, but carts let you haul heavy stuff around – water, rocks/bricks, wood, or whatever.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 6, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 6, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another Orlando Shooting

June 5, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

A few details at:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/bre … t12aH-3la1

The Orange County Sheriff’s Office is reporting this morning that the are “multiple fatalities” in a shooting on North Forsyth Road near Hanging Moss Road in Orlando. There is not an active shooter, however. “OCSO working shooting scene that has stabilized. Multiple fatalities. Situation contained….

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 30, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
ReadyMom wrote:
-sigh- … is it me …or do things seem to be getting worse instead of better & ratcheting up between the US & N.K? -k

It’s not just you. I’ve been feeling my anxiety ratchet up as the heat turns up between US and NK. I’ve been topping off my preps, keeping my ready electronics shielded overnight, and making room to squeeze even more preps in…just in case. I know I’m better prepared than most folks locally, but an EMP attack will have such long term devastating results that it would be really ugly.

And there has been some talk that NK is already attacking the west with cyber weapons.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ … rity-chief
North Korea top suspect for WannaCry attack, says ex US security chief
Methods used in ransomware attack on NHS and in up to 100 countries similar to those used by Pyongyang in the past, says Michael Chertoff

Although more recent reports attribute it to China:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2 … perts-say/
WannaCry cyber hackers linked to China not North Korea, experts say

But the mere news report, whether it is true or fake, is enough to keep adding to the pressure between US and NK.

And so I sit here wondering if I can squeeze another case of Yoder’s bacon out of my supply budget…

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Explosion at Manchester England concert

May 26, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:What really needs to happen is to have police patrolling in the soft zones outside of secured areas to try and deter or if possible catch suicide bombers before they can blow everyone up, like happens in Israel (our security forces really need to reach out and get some lessons from the IDF.) And before anyone suggests moving the security zone out further- that just moves the soft targets further out and means more security is needed to have a chance of catching folks since the unsecured perimeter becomes that much larger.

As if we don’t already live in a police state, you think it should be worse? It is already impossible to go anywhere without being put under surveillance, and illegally searched at any location the “authorities” deem important. Now you want even more cops harassing innocent people on the off chance they might catch someone.

Perhaps the answer is to recognize that the world is not a safe place, and it never has been. The answer is not more security, it is less security and a change in mentality. People die, if they didn’t there would be even worse overcrowding than there already is. To expect absolute safety is unrealistic. Perhaps it would be better to just live every day as if it was your last and get people to actually enjoy their lives so that when they die it is not such a big deal. It doesn’t matter if it is a car crash or a bear attack or cancer or falling through the ice or a terrorist attack, eventually everyone will die. On the day this attack happened more people died in car accidents worldwide than terrorist attacks, but nobody is suggesting that every car come with a cop to keep you safe. A free society is not a safe society, and a safe society is never free.

I wasn’t as precise in my wording as I should have been. :blush:

What I was trying to get across is the idea that these large venue events need to be treated like Airports, with a soft perimeter that is patrolled by police before you get to the actual security checkpoints and into the secure zone.

I was not trying to say random stops and searches anywhere are ok. I definitely think they are a violation of our rights.

But large venue events need to have an outer layer of security to reduce the risk of a mass casualty event. Nothing will eliminate risk, and it’s worth carefully balancing any need for safety against freedom of movement and personal liberty.

To circle back to the main topic, I suspect that if Manchester police had been patrolling an outer perimeter that they weren’t expecting an attack AFTER the concert, when in hindsight it provided a soft target. I think security plans for large events will be updated accordingly.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Explosion at Manchester England concert

May 25, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Photon Guy wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:Gun rights are important to protect, but this is the wrong incident to use in their defense.

Unless someone had noticed he was carrying a bomb then the first sign of a bad guy would be the flash, boom and then the moans of the injured and dying.

Similar situation with someone burning down a bar. I certainly wouldn’t waste time trying to shoot at someone setting fire to the building I was in – getting out is job one. Then you can make decisions on the best course of action. Of course if you’re in an illegal social club with only one way in and out, you’re making poor choices that might reduce your life expectancy….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

Well the main point I was trying to make is that both in this recent atrocity in Manchester and the act of arson back in 1990 in NY that in both cases they didn’t need guns to do what they did. There are many other cases and examples of people causing mayhem and killing multitudes without the use of guns, most notably 9/11. You are right that even if they had security with guns in Manchester they wouldn’t know or be able to do anything about the bad guy with the bomb until it was too late. If you ask me what they should have is better security for people entering such events. People should have to go through those same machines that they’ve got at airports and their belongings should be searched for anything dangerous, much like what you have to go through at an airport, or what I had to go through in Atlanta, GA.

That sounds great, but in this incident (and the prior one in France with multiple bombers) the bomber didn’t get inside the venue. He attacked a soft target outside the security perimeter, but where large numbers of people would be congregating at least for a short time. It’s similar to the attack at the airport in Brussels where the bombers exploded their devices in a departure hall, outside of the secure zone.

What really needs to happen is to have police patrolling in the soft zones outside of secured areas to try and deter or if possible catch suicide bombers before they can blow everyone up, like happens in Israel (our security forces really need to reach out and get some lessons from the IDF.) And before anyone suggests moving the security zone out further- that just moves the soft targets further out and means more security is needed to have a chance of catching folks since the unsecured perimeter becomes that much larger.

ref:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40008389
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Brussels_bombings

Photon Guy wrote:
The other point Im making is that there are bad people in this world and if they’re allowed to run loose they are going to find ways to harm innocents somehow or another no matter what they have or don’t have access to.

I barely know where to start on this statement, since it’s one heck of a slippery slope. It’s easy to tell bad guys AFTER they’ve done something bad, but telling who’s bad versus someone disgruntled or just someone spouting off garbage online is one heck of a task. Are you really for giving TPTB carte blanche to lock up folks who haven’t done anything more than talk? Or why stop there, what’s the mercenary phrase? Kill them all and let God sort them out. :eek:

I know it’s still early in the investigation, but it appears that the bomber just came back from Libya AND he was known to authorities. That should have prompted more action since Libya is basically a failed state these days and while his trip might have been an innocent one to visit relatives, it could also have been to get training for this attack. I suspect this was a missed opportunity to stop an attack before it happened. Hopefully all the security forces both in the UK and USA are paying attention and learning from others mistakes.

ref:
http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/07/ … m-out.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40008389

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Explosion at Manchester England concert

May 25, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Photon Guy wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:Gun rights are important to protect, but this is the wrong incident to use in their defense.

Unless someone had noticed he was carrying a bomb then the first sign of a bad guy would be the flash, boom and then the moans of the injured and dying.

Similar situation with someone burning down a bar. I certainly wouldn’t waste time trying to shoot at someone setting fire to the building I was in – getting out is job one. Then you can make decisions on the best course of action. Of course if you’re in an illegal social club with only one way in and out, you’re making poor choices that might reduce your life expectancy….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

Well the main point I was trying to make is that both in this recent atrocity in Manchester and the act of arson back in 1990 in NY that in both cases they didn’t need guns to do what they did. There are many other cases and examples of people causing mayhem and killing multitudes without the use of guns, most notably 9/11. You are right that even if they had security with guns in Manchester they wouldn’t know or be able to do anything about the bad guy with the bomb until it was too late. If you ask me what they should have is better security for people entering such events. People should have to go through those same machines that they’ve got at airports and their belongings should be searched for anything dangerous, much like what you have to go through at an airport, or what I had to go through in Atlanta, GA.

That sounds great, but in this incident (and the prior one in France with multiple bombers) the bomber didn’t get inside the venue. He attacked a soft target outside the security perimeter, but where large numbers of people would be congregating at least for a short time. It’s similar to the attack at the airport in Brussels where the bombers exploded their devices in a departure hall, outside of the secure zone.

What really needs to happen is to have police patrolling in the soft zones outside of secured areas to try and deter or if possible catch suicide bombers before they can blow everyone up, like happens in Israel (our security forces really need to reach out and get some lessons from the IDF.) And before anyone suggests moving the security zone out further- that just moves the soft targets further out and means more security is needed to have a chance of catching folks since the unsecured perimeter becomes that much larger.

ref:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40008389
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Brussels_bombings

Photon Guy wrote:
The other point Im making is that there are bad people in this world and if they’re allowed to run loose they are going to find ways to harm innocents somehow or another no matter what they have or don’t have access to.

I barely know where to start on this statement, since it’s one heck of a slippery slope. It’s easy to tell bad guys AFTER they’ve done something bad, but telling who’s bad versus someone disgruntled or just someone spouting off garbage online is one heck of a task. Are you really for giving TPTB carte blanche to lock up folks who haven’t done anything more than talk? Or why stop there, what’s the mercenary phrase? Kill them all and let God sort them out. :eek:

I know it’s still early in the investigation, but it appears that the bomber just came back from Libya AND he was known to authorities. That should have prompted more action since Libya is basically a failed state these days and while his trip might have been an innocent one to visit relatives, it could also have been to get training for this attack. I suspect this was a missed opportunity to stop an attack before it happened. Hopefully all the security forces both in the UK and USA are paying attention and learning from others mistakes.

ref:
http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/07/ … m-out.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40008389

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Explosion at Manchester England concert

May 24, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Photon Guy wrote:
So I was thinking, had this happened in the USA and had the bad guy used guns instead of a bomb that there would be yet another fit of hysteria with people calling for more gun control. This happened in England which has among the tightest gun control in the world and the bad guy didn’t need a gun to cause the carnage he caused. This was done with a homemade bomb that was made from stuff that could no doubt be purchased at most hardware stores. The point is, bad people who want to harm others are going to find ways to do it. Limiting the availability of guns wont help as it didn’t in this case. Back in 1990 there was a case where somebody lit up a dance club in New York using gasoline purchased from a nearby gas station, 87 people were killed. By making guns harder to get for good people all it does is limit their rights and their ability to fight back against the bad guys while the bad guys will find a way to cause harm with or without guns as in this case.

Gun rights are important to protect, but this is the wrong incident to use in their defense.

Unless someone had noticed he was carrying a bomb then the first sign of a bad guy would be the flash, boom and then the moans of the injured and dying.

Similar situation with someone burning down a bar. I certainly wouldn’t waste time trying to shoot at someone setting fire to the building I was in – getting out is job one. Then you can make decisions on the best course of action. Of course if you’re in an illegal social club with only one way in and out, you’re making poor choices that might reduce your life expectancy….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Safety of house on Vacation

May 19, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
handyman777 wrote:
One other thing, DON”T make it obvious when you leave and packing up…

Years ago a friend of mine was going on vacation, had a pizza delivered just before they left, well you know where i’m going with this….they where broke into….but the crook was eventually caught—pizza guy.

And while it’s harder with kids…don’t post your plans on social media and don’t check into locations when you’re in another state. Wait until you’re back to post any pictures of your trip….

All too often my wife will run across posts from her FaceBook “friends” that they’re heading to Florida, Cancun, etc.

Oh another thing. While it seems smart to tell the post office to hold your mail, when I was growing up it was a regular occurrence to hear about a family who had their mail held only to come back to a house that was broken into. Maybe the USPS has gotten better about security, but it used to leak like a sieve.

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Personal Safety and Home Security • Re: Safety of house on Vacation

May 19, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
handyman777 wrote:
One other thing, DON”T make it obvious when you leave and packing up…

Years ago a friend of mine was going on vacation, had a pizza delivered just before they left, well you know where i’m going with this….they where broke into….but the crook was eventually caught—pizza guy.

And while it’s harder with kids…don’t post your plans on social media and don’t check into locations when you’re in another state. Wait until you’re back to post any pictures of your trip….

All too often my wife will run across posts from her FaceBook “friends” that they’re heading to Florida, Cancun, etc.

Oh another thing. While it seems smart to tell the post office to hold your mail, when I was growing up it was a regular occurrence to hear about a family who had their mail held only to come back to a house that was broken into. Maybe the USPS has gotten better about security, but it used to leak like a sieve.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Massive Cyper Attack

May 17, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:
We must be behind the times here, because the last time I went to the hospital I checked in on a paper form and the nurse/doctor filled out a paper chart. Information is later entered into a computer to comply with regulations but the info is all taken on paper here.

I find it hard to believe that there would not be a paper record of medical records there, the info is just to important to not have it backed up in a physical form. I wonder if this will be a wake up call to people in the cities about their dependence on tech.

Paper takes up physical space and has to be shuffled around, so it’s terribly inefficient when dealing with multiple departments. Modern hospitals have gone to digital records and aren’t looking back. Sure, paper records are more robust in a disaster, but electronic records are easier and cheaper to deal with. And if done properly, nothing would be lost even in a major natural disaster – offsite backups and the ability to rent cloud servers to get back into operations if a location was physically damaged or destroyed are all part and parcel of enterprise level IT.

And the Federal Government has been pushing medical centers into electronic medical records by reducing Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement for doctors that still use paper. But to hear of medical centers that start with paper and only do electronic records for reimbursement seems a bit odd to me…it can’t be terribly cost effective for them and it would still be just as prone to wrong information due to illegible forms (doctors aren’t exactly known for the legibility of their handwriting.)

And sure, I know EMP can wipe out all the electronics, but if the electric utilities aren’t protecting their system, then there is no chance that hospitals or doctors offices are going to worry about that disaster scenario. Too much cost for what is perceived as a minor risk. That said, I should sign into my doctor’s office record system and print out my medical records just in case. :whistling:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Massive Cyper Attack

May 17, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:
We must be behind the times here, because the last time I went to the hospital I checked in on a paper form and the nurse/doctor filled out a paper chart. Information is later entered into a computer to comply with regulations but the info is all taken on paper here.

I find it hard to believe that there would not be a paper record of medical records there, the info is just to important to not have it backed up in a physical form. I wonder if this will be a wake up call to people in the cities about their dependence on tech.

Paper takes up physical space and has to be shuffled around, so it’s terribly inefficient when dealing with multiple departments. Modern hospitals have gone to digital records and aren’t looking back. Sure, paper records are more robust in a disaster, but electronic records are easier and cheaper to deal with. And if done properly, nothing would be lost even in a major natural disaster – offsite backups and the ability to rent cloud servers to get back into operations if a location was physically damaged or destroyed are all part and parcel of enterprise level IT.

And the Federal Government has been pushing medical centers into electronic medical records by reducing Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement for doctors that still use paper. But to hear of medical centers that start with paper and only do electronic records for reimbursement seems a bit odd to me…it can’t be terribly cost effective for them and it would still be just as prone to wrong information due to illegible forms (doctors aren’t exactly known for the legibility of their handwriting.)

And sure, I know EMP can wipe out all the electronics, but if the electric utilities aren’t protecting their system, then there is no chance that hospitals or doctors offices are going to worry about that disaster scenario. Too much cost for what is perceived as a minor risk. That said, I should sign into my doctor’s office record system and print out my medical records just in case. :whistling:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Massive Cyper Attack

May 17, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:
Maybe I just spend to much time in the woods, but I just don’t see what the big deal was. So some people lost a few pictures or some music, so what. All records are backed up on hard copy for anything important, either privately or by the companies. Land records, medical records, bank statements are all on paper so why all the press on this? Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal.

Because some businesses relied on those infected machines to do day to day business. Worse yet, were the hospitals in the UK that had to turn patients away because medical records weren’t available (they haven’t used paper records in years.)

Sure, for a home user it’s not the end of the world, although losing pictures of dead loved ones is traumatic they will survive. But most businesses can’t run on paper anymore, so when the machines go down, most work stops.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Massive Cyper Attack

May 17, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:
Maybe I just spend to much time in the woods, but I just don’t see what the big deal was. So some people lost a few pictures or some music, so what. All records are backed up on hard copy for anything important, either privately or by the companies. Land records, medical records, bank statements are all on paper so why all the press on this? Could someone please explain to me why this is such a big deal.

Because some businesses relied on those infected machines to do day to day business. Worse yet, were the hospitals in the UK that had to turn patients away because medical records weren’t available (they haven’t used paper records in years.)

Sure, for a home user it’s not the end of the world, although losing pictures of dead loved ones is traumatic they will survive. But most businesses can’t run on paper anymore, so when the machines go down, most work stops.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: They know Who You Are

May 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

And no sooner had I sent my message, then I ran across this article:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/15/the … -learning/

The Pentagon is hunting ISIS using big data and machine learning
Its newly-minted Algorithmic Warfare Cross Functional Team is taking the lead.

Military and civilian intelligence analysts “overwhelmed” by the sheer volume of video surveillance data recorded over the America’s numerous military incursions against ISIS will soon get some relief. The Pentagon announced on Monday that it is tasking its newly-minted Algorithmic Warfare Cross Functional Team (AWCFT), dubbed Project Maven, with using big data and machine learning to accelerate the process of discovering actionable intelligence in all that aerial imagery.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: They know Who You Are

May 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Cast Iron wrote:
What is “normal” nowadays?

They investigated the Orlando club shooter. Failed to prevent that.

There is so much information out there, there is not enough computing power or analysts to scrutinize every American. Not that the average American would even pop on a suspect list.
I guess we should thank those antifa loons, the far left, as a lot of their rhetoric I find mildly alarming.
I would think the government has a lot more potential homegrown loonies to watch than some goat farmer in the sticks.

I would be careful about assuming that there is too much information to be analyzed properly. Big Data is a real thing, data storage prices are dirt cheap, and computer processing power is increasing all the time, so the algorithms that figure out which online ads to show to you today may be updated to pull out persons of interest for whatever reason deemed important at the moment. Man-power to track down additional info in the real world is the only impediment at the moment, but as cash goes away and with online ordering tied to physical addresses increase, there can be more computerized analysis and less emphasis on boots on the ground, so to speak.

Lets take a hypothetical person of interest. If he buys in cash at local stores he can still be tracked as a frequent shopper if LEO has placed license plate cameras in the area. If he buys online, it’s even worse…when UPS, Fedex, etc deliver they know the shipper and the recipient address. If certain stores are listed as potentially problematic, then anyone receiving packages from them can be added to a suspect list. Worse, all shipments sent to the suspect address can be traced back to businesses who could be forced to give up their business records for that address, giving a very detailed list of items purchased.

Or along the idea of license plate cameras, do you travel on toll roads? Transponders are required for a lot of toll roads these days and there is no reason that additional transponder readers can’t be installed wherever TPTB want them. And of course, the toll roads themselves are a wealth of info of where people move, when and how often.

Does this happen wholesale? Probably not, but there is nothing in current law or legal precedent stopping any of this. I’m probably on some lists because of my online shopping habits, but I’m also a good little consumer and don’t rock the boat.

Big Brother is here and he’s improving his data collection all the time….

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Pandemic Preparedness • Re: EBOLA-News & Discussion-WORLD-(Continued Reports)

May 12, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

And from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39899406

Ebola: WHO declares outbreak in DR Congo

The World Health Organization (WHO) has declared an Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
At least one person has died after contracting the virus in the country’s north-east, the WHO says.
The Congolese health ministry had notified the WHO of a “lab-confirmed case” of Ebola, it added on Twitter.

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Full article at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39899406

Time to recheck your medical preps and see if anything needs replacing….

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
ReadyMom wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Rod wrote:All they have to do is get a device, that can be remotely detonated, into low orbit.

Like in a satellite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyŏngsŏng_program

Yeah, they have two up there right now…but who knows what’s actually in those satellites. Hopefully if President Trump decides to take military action in NK that he has the air force destroy the satellites at the same time…hit them with a missile, fry them with x-rays, put a bucket of nails in a crossing trajectory, doesn’t matter how, just that they are disabled in case they have an EMP device in them…otherwise things could get quite ugly here in the homeland. :eek:

You need to listen to Dr. Peter Fry’s interview here: http://scotthelmer.com/radioshow/shows/2017/05/07

OR … did your read the latest thing I posted just 2 posts up? -k

I was just pointing out that NK might not need to loft anything new, they may already have a bomb in orbit awaiting a signal to start the countdown.

The fact that the secretive air force shuttle just landed just adds to my concern, but adds some hope. Maybe they are outfitting it with something to deal with rogue satellites on the sly? No reason to break more treaties than we have to, but the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 leaves a lot of wiggle room for weapons in space.

I hadn’t listened to the radio show, and I’m trying to get through it but almost 3 hours is a bit much to listen to while I’m at work. :blush: That said, I have read your messages. I was just trying to point out to Rod that NK has already shown its ability to loft items of the required size and to the required altitude, or that they may have already done so.

reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
ReadyMom wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Rod wrote:All they have to do is get a device, that can be remotely detonated, into low orbit.

Like in a satellite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyŏngsŏng_program

Yeah, they have two up there right now…but who knows what’s actually in those satellites. Hopefully if President Trump decides to take military action in NK that he has the air force destroy the satellites at the same time…hit them with a missile, fry them with x-rays, put a bucket of nails in a crossing trajectory, doesn’t matter how, just that they are disabled in case they have an EMP device in them…otherwise things could get quite ugly here in the homeland. :eek:

You need to listen to Dr. Peter Fry’s interview here: http://scotthelmer.com/radioshow/shows/2017/05/07

OR … did your read the latest thing I posted just 2 posts up? -k

I was just pointing out that NK might not need to loft anything new, they may already have a bomb in orbit awaiting a signal to start the countdown.

The fact that the secretive air force shuttle just landed just adds to my concern, but adds some hope. Maybe they are outfitting it with something to deal with rogue satellites on the sly? No reason to break more treaties than we have to, but the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 leaves a lot of wiggle room for weapons in space.

I hadn’t listened to the radio show, and I’m trying to get through it but almost 3 hours is a bit much to listen to while I’m at work. :blush: That said, I have read your messages. I was just trying to point out to Rod that NK has already shown its ability to loft items of the required size and to the required altitude, or that they may have already done so.

reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Rod wrote:
All they have to do is get a device, that can be remotely detonated, into low orbit.

Like in a satellite?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyŏngsŏng_program

Yeah, they have two up there right now…but who knows what’s actually in those satellites. Hopefully if President Trump decides to take military action in NK that he has the air force destroy the satellites at the same time…hit them with a missile, fry them with x-rays, put a bucket of nails in a crossing trajectory, doesn’t matter how, just that they are disabled in case they have an EMP device in them…otherwise things could get quite ugly here in the homeland. :eek:

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Water • Re: Lifesaver Cube Water Filtration Review and Thoughts

May 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

IIRC, the Berkey Black filters remove 95+% of lead. The PF2 filters are for removing Arsenic and Fluoridation, and I’m pretty sure it further reduces heavy metals, but the black filters do a good job all by themselves. Oops, my bad, looks like the black filters do an amazing job by themselves on lead:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/bl … gory/lead/

The Big Berkey range of drinking water filters fitted with Black Berkey filters can reduce lead and other heavy metals by 99.9%+, and can also remove trihalomethanes and many other drinking water contaminants to ensure your family’s safety.

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First Aid & Medicine • Re: Book Needed: All About Antibiotics

May 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
daaswampman wrote:
I would go online and print out information specific to the drugs you have! There are resources with many in layman’s terms. I work in a Trauma Center and have not seen a PDR in use since the advent of the smartphone!

I would also check out Doom and Bloom for information that is actually useful! The PDR make an excellent doorstop or might be useful if you run out of TP. Swamp

https://www.doomandbloom.net/

Buying a lightly used PDR from a couple of years back (PDR 2014) on Amazon set me back less than $6.50. So while printing out things for your specific medicines might make sense, if you have room for the book in your library, it’s not a budget buster.

Of course I also have The Survival Medicine Handbook as the first stop for information on treatment post SHTF, but for the money I couldn’t resist getting the PDR too.

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First Aid & Medicine • Re: Book Needed: All About Antibiotics

May 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
daaswampman wrote:
I would go online and print out information specific to the drugs you have! There are resources with many in layman’s terms. I work in a Trauma Center and have not seen a PDR in use since the advent of the smartphone!

I would also check out Doom and Bloom for information that is actually useful! The PDR make an excellent doorstop or might be useful if you run out of TP. Swamp

https://www.doomandbloom.net/

Buying a lightly used PDR from a couple of years back (PDR 2014) on Amazon set me back less than $6.50. So while printing out things for your specific medicines might make sense, if you have room for the book in your library, it’s not a budget buster.

Of course I also have The Survival Medicine Handbook as the first stop for information on treatment post SHTF, but for the money I couldn’t resist getting the PDR too.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 4, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Another sign of deteriorating situation in the region:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/n … 39856.html
North Korean state media lashes out at main ally China
In rare rebuke, N Korean news agency accuses China’s media of ‘dancing to the tune of the US’ amid rising tensions.

North Korea has lashed out against its main ally, China, over criticism of its nuclear weapons programme, accusing “ignorant politicians and media persons” of undermining decades of close relations to side with the United States.

With tensions rising on the Korean Peninsula as a US aircraft carrier strike group conducts war games with South Korea’s navy, North Korea’s state media took its Chinese counterpart to task on Wednesday over “absurd and reckless remarks” that are “dancing to the tune of the US”.

“The DPRK will never beg for the maintenance of friendship with China,” the commentary on the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said, using the acronym for the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

The report chided China for its “insincerity and betrayal on the part of its partner”.

China’s state-run Global Times newspaper retorted on Thursday that the nuclear-armed North was in the grip of “some form of irrational logic” over its weapons programmes.
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full article at http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/n … 39856.html

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Pandemic Preparedness • Mystery illness in Liberia

May 1, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

As if we don’t have enough to worry about, an article on CNN talks about an unknown disease that both the WHO and the CDC are looking into:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/health/li … index.html

11 dead so far with 21 hospitalized. Ebola and Lassa fever have been ruled out. Samples have been sent to Atlanta for the CDC to analyze.

Maybe nothing, but it’s a reminder to keep up to date with medical preps while the news keeps us focused on other threats. I really need to check on fish to see if they have enough antibiotics just in case. :whistling:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP and Stored Data

May 1, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
daaswampman wrote:
I wonder what a solar storm like a Carrington Event would have a stored data?

On Saturday, September 3, 1859, the Baltimore American and Commercial Advertiser reported:

Those who happened to be out late on Thursday night had an opportunity of witnessing another magnificent display of the auroral lights. The phenomenon was very similar to the display on Sunday night, though at times the light was, if possible, more brilliant, and the prismatic hues more varied and gorgeous. The light appeared to cover the whole firmament, apparently like a luminous cloud, through which the stars of the larger magnitude indistinctly shone. The light was greater than that of the moon at its full, but had an indescribable softness and delicacy that seemed to envelop everything upon which it rested. Between 12 and 1 o’clock, when the display was at its full brilliancy, the quiet streets of the city resting under this strange light, presented a beautiful as well as singular appearance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

Shouldn’t have any effect on offline data, since a geomagnetic storm causes induced currents in long wires. So cable TV, old copper telephone lines, antennas, and oh yes, the power grid are all vulnerable. But if you unplug your gear from the grid, and retract or remove any antennas you should be fine.

In some areas the ground currents could be high, so that could be a problem for folks using an earth ground (long metal rod pounded into the ground and connected electrically to your home.) But again, unplugging your gear will protect it.

And as long as the solar observation satellites are working we’ll have hours to days of warning before any impending storm. This gives grid operators and satellite owners time to implement their mitigation plans before a storm hits. One geeky note – for a CME to be effective, it has to have the correct polarity, and while the solar observation satellites can see a plasma cloud head towards us (the plasma cloud is what gets ejected), we don’t know the polarity until it reaches another satellite which is a LOT closer to earth. So basically, each storm warning could be false alarm, but failure to act means until certain means there won’t be enough time to do much if any mitigation…. :smartass:

Sorry if I got too professorial…it’s a bad habit of mine that is more pronounced on Mondays. :floppytongue:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP and Stored Data

April 28, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I’m not worried about gamma ray damage to my electronics in an EMP scenario. The estimated altitudes for an EMP nuclear burst are all over the place, but the lowest I’ve seen is 40km, so I’ll use this as a worst case scenario. Half value layer of air depending on energy level of the gamma rays ranges from 35.55m to 61.89m, so again going worst case, I’ll say the HVL is 62m. Dividing 40000 by 62 gives 645 half value layers, assuming no other material between your gear and the blast…just 40km of air. So the amount of gamma rays reaching you from a nuclear EMP blast will be so close to zero, you’re at more risk from granite countertops than an EMP blast…

That said, I keep my USB thumb drives in an Altoids tin at night just in case, to prevent damage from induced currents from the EMP itself.

Reference material:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Basic_Phy … Gamma-Rays

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: April 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep Todayhis Week?

April 24, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Sealed up some of my moderate use electronics in expedient faraday shielding. Separately wrapped old iPhone, a portable DVD player, a Kindle that has my prepping library in it, plus my wife’s old Kindle in paper, then foil, then another layer of paper before placing into an aluminum chafing pan, then covered that with heavy duty aluminum foil. Hopefully that’s enough if NK’s weight challenged leader :crazy: really does have an EMP device….

Oh, and I sealed my last trash can faraday cage with aluminum tape, again same reason. Other cans had been sealed for months, but last one had battery packs that I charge periodically. Sealed for now, until latest crisis blows over or the balloon goes up.

Heading to market on way home to top off some canned goods I used this weekend. I want to be as buttoned up as I can be for April 25th, since it’s a military holiday for NK.

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:16 am


Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: If a Nuclear Bomb Hit NYC

April 18, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Emp effects from a ground burst are pretty much limited to areas impacted by thermal and pressure waves. Air bursts have longer ranges but it depends on the height. I’m on the road now so can’t find my notes, but basically it’s line of sight for emp effects, so whatever the horizon is for a given height is the likely emp zone.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Dallas emergency siren system hacked

April 13, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Found an updated article on the hack:

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec … y-manager/

Seems it was done via radio signals and NOT a network hack. That explains how they knew it was someone local doing the hacking, but still leaves open the possibility that all similar systems can be hacked as easily unless things get fixed.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Dallas emergency siren system hacked

April 13, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Found an updated article on the hack:

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec … y-manager/

Seems it was done via radio signals and NOT a network hack. That explains how they knew it was someone local doing the hacking, but still leaves open the possibility that all similar systems can be hacked as easily unless things get fixed.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Dallas emergency siren system hacked

April 10, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Late Friday evening the Dallas emergency siren system was hacked and was set off multiple times by hackers:

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/0 … zen-times/

While not technically a disaster, it certainly riled things up and the 911 call centers got overloaded with more than double the usual amount of Friday night calls, but in just a few hours.

Yet another issue to plan for…fake emergencies set off by hackers that could get the sheeple all riled up. Here’s hoping the emergency text alert system is a bit better protected…

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:58 am