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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #5 (Aug 2017)

August 21, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

To add to the uncertainty, our Aegis missile defense destroyers seem to be dropping like flies in the Pacific. One yesterday, another back on June 17th, and a third in late January. At least the January one just ran aground rather than running into tanker ships. :whistling:

The McCain is missing sailors after this latest crash and I fear those missing won’t be found alive. And with the repairs that will be needed, this is the third Aegis destroyer in the Pacific to be out of commission for a while. I have to wonder how many can be in repair dock and we still have an effective ABM defense. :nervous:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/20/asia/us-n … index.html

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #5 (Aug 2017)

August 21, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

To add to the uncertainty, our Aegis missile defense destroyers seem to be dropping like flies in the Pacific. One yesterday, another back on June 17th, and a third in late January. At least the January one just ran aground rather than running into tanker ships. :whistling:

The McCain is missing sailors after this latest crash and I fear those missing won’t be found alive. And with the repairs that will be needed, this is the third Aegis destroyer in the Pacific to be out of commission for a while. I have to wonder how many can be in repair dock and we still have an effective ABM defense. :nervous:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/20/asia/us-n … index.html

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: August 2017 – What Did YOU Do To Prep this Week/Month?

August 20, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Put 70 lbs of rice into gallon Mylar bags, then sealed into three buckets with 2 pounds of salt and two spam cans each. Just received some #10 cans of turkey tetrazzini and FD beef cubes. Also got a bunch of small cans of FD sliced cherries – opened one up to test and both the wife and I enjoyed them – makes a nice snack as is, no rehydration needed. Will try rehydrating and cooking with them later.
Organized basement to make room for more stuff later if news reports on hot spots makes me too nervous.

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General Food Topics • Re: Store fruitcake

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I suspect it lasted that long because it was basically in a freezer all that time based on where it was found….

For those if us living outside the artic we need to take more active steps to preserve fruitcake. Decent article about that covers shelf life extension of fruitcake:

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/fruitcakesec.htm

That said, I’m not planning on storing fruitcake at all, let alone long term. Store what you eat and all that… :evil:

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General Food Topics • Re: Store fruitcake

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I suspect it lasted that long because it was basically in a freezer all that time based on where it was found….

For those if us living outside the artic we need to take more active steps to preserve fruitcake. Decent article about that covers shelf life extension of fruitcake:

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/fruitcakesec.htm

That said, I’m not planning on storing fruitcake at all, let alone long term. Store what you eat and all that… :evil:

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General Food Topics • Re: Store fruitcake

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I suspect it lasted that long because it was basically in a freezer all that time based on where it was found….

For those if us living outside the artic we need to take more active steps to preserve fruitcake. Decent article about that covers shelf life extension of fruitcake:

https://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/fruitcakesec.htm

That said, I’m not planning on storing fruitcake at all, let alone long term. Store what you eat and all that… :evil:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Reserve Currency

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
DIL, says in S Korea they don’t use pennies now.

Canada hasn’t used pennies in years…they stopped minting them in 2012. Instead, folks now round to the nearest nickel. No sign of a push for all electronic payment up there – they just realized it costs more than a penny to mint a penny, so it was silly to keep making them.

I wouldn’t be too sad to see the US do the same thing since I don’t see myself using buckets of pennies in a home made forge post SHTF.

What I consider more problematic are places that say they won’t take any bill larger than $20. That’s more dangerous since it forces folks to carry lots of small bills (looks suspicious to any LEO looking to add to their coffers via asset forfeiture) or switch to credit/debit cards.

BTW, I try to avoid the slang terms of plastic for credit/debit cards or paper for cash, since some countries use plastic “paper” currency…Canada for example (why, yes, I do vacation up in Canada once a year – polite folks, good exchange rate and I can drive up there with only minimal hassle at the border each way.) :smartass:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Reserve Currency

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
DIL, says in S Korea they don’t use pennies now.

Canada hasn’t used pennies in years…they stopped minting them in 2012. Instead, folks now round to the nearest nickel. No sign of a push for all electronic payment up there – they just realized it costs more than a penny to mint a penny, so it was silly to keep making them.

I wouldn’t be too sad to see the US do the same thing since I don’t see myself using buckets of pennies in a home made forge post SHTF.

What I consider more problematic are places that say they won’t take any bill larger than $20. That’s more dangerous since it forces folks to carry lots of small bills (looks suspicious to any LEO looking to add to their coffers via asset forfeiture) or switch to credit/debit cards.

BTW, I try to avoid the slang terms of plastic for credit/debit cards or paper for cash, since some countries use plastic “paper” currency…Canada for example (why, yes, I do vacation up in Canada once a year – polite folks, good exchange rate and I can drive up there with only minimal hassle at the border each way.) :smartass:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Reserve Currency

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
DIL, says in S Korea they don’t use pennies now.

Canada hasn’t used pennies in years…they stopped minting them in 2012. Instead, folks now round to the nearest nickel. No sign of a push for all electronic payment up there – they just realized it costs more than a penny to mint a penny, so it was silly to keep making them.

I wouldn’t be too sad to see the US do the same thing since I don’t see myself using buckets of pennies in a home made forge post SHTF.

What I consider more problematic are places that say they won’t take any bill larger than $20. That’s more dangerous since it forces folks to carry lots of small bills (looks suspicious to any LEO looking to add to their coffers via asset forfeiture) or switch to credit/debit cards.

BTW, I try to avoid the slang terms of plastic for credit/debit cards or paper for cash, since some countries use plastic “paper” currency…Canada for example (why, yes, I do vacation up in Canada once a year – polite folks, good exchange rate and I can drive up there with only minimal hassle at the border each way.) :smartass:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Reserve Currency

August 14, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
DIL, says in S Korea they don’t use pennies now.

Canada hasn’t used pennies in years…they stopped minting them in 2012. Instead, folks now round to the nearest nickel. No sign of a push for all electronic payment up there – they just realized it costs more than a penny to mint a penny, so it was silly to keep making them.

I wouldn’t be too sad to see the US do the same thing since I don’t see myself using buckets of pennies in a home made forge post SHTF.

What I consider more problematic are places that say they won’t take any bill larger than $20. That’s more dangerous since it forces folks to carry lots of small bills (looks suspicious to any LEO looking to add to their coffers via asset forfeiture) or switch to credit/debit cards.

BTW, I try to avoid the slang terms of plastic for credit/debit cards or paper for cash, since some countries use plastic “paper” currency…Canada for example (why, yes, I do vacation up in Canada once a year – polite folks, good exchange rate and I can drive up there with only minimal hassle at the border each way.) :smartass:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: The Fun Stuff

August 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Depending on ages of who gets here – books, board games, dice games, card games or singing and storytelling. And a well hidden supply of comfort foods including chocolate, hard candies and popcorn for occasions that need something extra special.

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General Food Topics • Re: Electric vs Gas Operated Stoves and Ovens

August 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned here are folks with natural gas stoves piped into the utility system. I have one and I know that’s it’s not going to work as an oven when the power goes out, even if natural gas keeps flowing because of the safety systems in the stove. The stove top WILL work as long as I can light it manually with a match or lighter. So anybody piped into natural gas should flip a circuit breaker and test their stoves now before a real emergency just so you can be aware of what works and what doesn’t…if you’re lucky and have an old style non-electric gas oven, I’m jealous!

And I almost have too many ways to cook post-SHTF – solar oven, propane grill, camping stove, Kelly kettle, a few rocket stoves, a few small charcoal grills, and a bunch of cast iron cookware if I have to fall back to campfires. Solar oven will be my go-to whenever the sun is out since it doesn’t use a limited fuel source, but I have layered backups just in case….

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General Food Topics • Re: Electric vs Gas Operated Stoves and Ovens

August 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned here are folks with natural gas stoves piped into the utility system. I have one and I know that’s it’s not going to work as an oven when the power goes out, even if natural gas keeps flowing because of the safety systems in the stove. The stove top WILL work as long as I can light it manually with a match or lighter. So anybody piped into natural gas should flip a circuit breaker and test their stoves now before a real emergency just so you can be aware of what works and what doesn’t…if you’re lucky and have an old style non-electric gas oven, I’m jealous!

And I almost have too many ways to cook post-SHTF – solar oven, propane grill, camping stove, Kelly kettle, a few rocket stoves, a few small charcoal grills, and a bunch of cast iron cookware if I have to fall back to campfires. Solar oven will be my go-to whenever the sun is out since it doesn’t use a limited fuel source, but I have layered backups just in case….

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Pandemic Preparedness • Post-Ebola Syndrome

July 19, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Scientists have been studying the survivors of the last mass Ebola outbreaks and have found that in some cases the virus hides in some immune cells and other spots in the body that the immune system doesn’t touch much.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07 … une-cells/

“Post-Ebola syndrome” is something else to keep you up at night
Researchers are only beginning to understand this and may now have monkey model.

The hardest part of their research is that:

Most animal models of Ebola infections result in nearly 100-percent fatalities in short order—nixing the chance of developing persistent infections. But Zeng and his colleagues are hopeful that their data can lead researchers to a model of persistence using medically treated rhesus monkeys. The researchers say they’ve already begun work on developing such a model.

So even when someone has recovered, it doesn’t mean that they are not infectious anymore…

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Pandemic Preparedness • Post-Ebola Syndrome

July 19, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Scientists have been studying the survivors of the last mass Ebola outbreaks and have found that in some cases the virus hides in some immune cells and other spots in the body that the immune system doesn’t touch much.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07 … une-cells/

“Post-Ebola syndrome” is something else to keep you up at night
Researchers are only beginning to understand this and may now have monkey model.

The hardest part of their research is that:

Most animal models of Ebola infections result in nearly 100-percent fatalities in short order—nixing the chance of developing persistent infections. But Zeng and his colleagues are hopeful that their data can lead researchers to a model of persistence using medically treated rhesus monkeys. The researchers say they’ve already begun work on developing such a model.

So even when someone has recovered, it doesn’t mean that they are not infectious anymore…

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Pandemic Preparedness • Post-Ebola Syndrome

July 19, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Scientists have been studying the survivors of the last mass Ebola outbreaks and have found that in some cases the virus hides in some immune cells and other spots in the body that the immune system doesn’t touch much.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07 … une-cells/

“Post-Ebola syndrome” is something else to keep you up at night
Researchers are only beginning to understand this and may now have monkey model.

The hardest part of their research is that:

Most animal models of Ebola infections result in nearly 100-percent fatalities in short order—nixing the chance of developing persistent infections. But Zeng and his colleagues are hopeful that their data can lead researchers to a model of persistence using medically treated rhesus monkeys. The researchers say they’ve already begun work on developing such a model.

So even when someone has recovered, it doesn’t mean that they are not infectious anymore…

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Grooming

July 12, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I’ve already got a pony tail so no worries on hair, but for beard I have a LOT of razor blades, since my gas mask needs a good seal which means no beard at least where the mask touches the face…if you have a beard you either need to remove it or get a powered air purifier which are way more expensive than I can afford…

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JULY 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

July 11, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
Tip: Keep an old rotary phone on hand. If power goes out you can plug it into your
landline and still have a phone. We use it if we have outages, only way to call it in
from out here.

Any hardline phone will work during a power outage, just not the wireless ones (unless you have backup power for your base.) So old touchtones phones will work too, assuming:

However, this is only true for folks still connected to copper phone lines. Anyone who has been switched to VoIP or fiber lines into the house will have trouble unless ALL devices between the home and the central office have backup power. In other words, don’t count on it…

I get my landline from Xfinity, so I know it’s not trustworthy during a power outage. Doesn’t matter that I have backup power if the local nodes between my house and the central office run out of juice, which tends to happen within a few minutes of a utility outage. :thumbdown:

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: JULY 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

July 11, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
Tip: Keep an old rotary phone on hand. If power goes out you can plug it into your
landline and still have a phone. We use it if we have outages, only way to call it in
from out here.

Any hardline phone will work during a power outage, just not the wireless ones (unless you have backup power for your base.) So old touchtones phones will work too, assuming:

However, this is only true for folks still connected to copper phone lines. Anyone who has been switched to VoIP or fiber lines into the house will have trouble unless ALL devices between the home and the central office have backup power. In other words, don’t count on it…

I get my landline from Xfinity, so I know it’s not trustworthy during a power outage. Doesn’t matter that I have backup power if the local nodes between my house and the central office run out of juice, which tends to happen within a few minutes of a utility outage. :thumbdown:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: September is Prepper Month

July 3, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

You’re more than a decade behind on government action….

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa … ness_Month

Since its inception in 2004,[1] National Preparedness Month is observed each September in the United States of America. Sponsored by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) within the Department of Homeland Security, National Preparedness Month encourages Americans to take steps to prepare for emergencies in their homes, businesses, schools, and communities.

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Re: Please Help by posting forum errors here.

June 28, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I know this isn’t very helpful, but when I see a failure I am using the login link from the top level portal. I enter my credentials and hit login, and the screen refreshes and asks me to enter my credentials again. Next time I’ll try to grab the code in the URL related to my attempted login session.

Normally I just try twice then go off and do something else and check back in a few hours. Almost every time just waiting a few hours I can get right in without clearing cache or cookies. So unless you have a really short TTL on cookies, I suspect it’s not on the user end of the equation.

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Re: Please Help by posting forum errors here.

June 28, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

I know this isn’t very helpful, but when I see a failure I am using the login link from the top level portal. I enter my credentials and hit login, and the screen refreshes and asks me to enter my credentials again. Next time I’ll try to grab the code in the URL related to my attempted login session.

Normally I just try twice then go off and do something else and check back in a few hours. Almost every time just waiting a few hours I can get right in without clearing cache or cookies. So unless you have a really short TTL on cookies, I suspect it’s not on the user end of the equation.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: radiological prep ?

June 24, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

For budget conscious folks who don’t want to build their own Kearney meters check out eBay. I’ve gotten a good selection of civil defense meters, dosimeters and chargers on the cheap. I then splurged on getting some of that gear calibrated by ki4u. As my budget permits I’ll get the rest calibrated, but if an event happens before then I can use the calibrated gear to see if the uncalibrated gear is close enough.
I also keep the gear in some faraday cages (galvanized trash cans sealed with aluminum tape) so they should survive an emp. I figure I’m most likely to need the gear after an emp when the nuclear power plants start having issues en masse.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: radiological prep ?

June 24, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

For budget conscious folks who don’t want to build their own Kearney meters check out eBay. I’ve gotten a good selection of civil defense meters, dosimeters and chargers on the cheap. I then splurged on getting some of that gear calibrated by ki4u. As my budget permits I’ll get the rest calibrated, but if an event happens before then I can use the calibrated gear to see if the uncalibrated gear is close enough.
I also keep the gear in some faraday cages (galvanized trash cans sealed with aluminum tape) so they should survive an emp. I figure I’m most likely to need the gear after an emp when the nuclear power plants start having issues en masse.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #3 (JUNE 2017)

June 20, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Gunns wrote:

Mollypup wrote:We’ve no idea who is funding NKs nuclear program. The country is not wealthy. It’s citizens are in really bad shape……… So, has anyone wondered & looked into who could be funding this?

NK funds its own nuclear program. There is no conspiracy here.

1. China buys all sorts of minerals from NK.
2. Overseas slave labor. NK is big time slaver of its people to other nations.
3. Weapons sales. Money from above is transferred to their weapons manufacturing which is done my slave labor. Big money in weapons sales.
4. Drugs. Huge. Biggest provider of Viagra on earth.
5. Cyber-crime. They make hundreds of millions of dollars every year.

And I’m willing to bet once NK feels like they have advertised their nuclear capability enough that they’ll be making a few devices available to select, well funded groups. :eek:

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A.N.T.S. • Re: OK: lets Talk About the Nasty Stuff-Hygiene

June 20, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Hand washing with a hand cloth is my plan until infrastructure comes back. Just enough water to wet the body and suds up, then rinse off with as little water as possible. Hauling water by hand is hard work, so I’m not about to commit 20+ gallons to a bathtub, at least not until things settle down…then maybe do it Japanese bathhouse style…wash first with minimal water then soak in a tub AFTER you’re clean.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 18, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Thanks trex, I’ll check out those links. I was just being paranoid and trying to say that pool water would be my last choice for a water source not that I’d tell people to not use it if that’s all you have.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 18, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Thanks trex, I’ll check out those links. I was just being paranoid and trying to say that pool water would be my last choice for a water source not that I’d tell people to not use it if that’s all you have.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
TRex2 wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

Well, that was part of the reason I said that, for drinking,
you should use a quality filter.
I can’t find any definite statement, but I would bet,
the Berkey filters use charcoal, or something like charcoal.

None of the chemicals listed as algicides in the wikpedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algaecide were listed on the black Berkey filter spec page I linked above. That makes me concerned.

The one thing I do know for sure about the black Berkey filters is that they aren’t just filled with activated charcoal like some filters (like the Brita filters.) Here is part of a FAQ I found on the filters:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/he … urces/faq/

What are the Black Berkey elements made out of and how do they work?

Without getting too complex, several methodologies are utilized by the Black Berkey purification elements. The elements are composed of a formulation of more than a half dozen different media types constructed into a very fine matrix creating millions of micro-fine pores. The pores are so small that pathogenic bacteria, cysts, parasites, sediment and sedimentary minerals are not able to pass through them. The media formulation both “absorbs” some contaminates and “adsorbs” other contaminates. Next, heavy metals ions (mineral molecules) are extracted through an Ion exchange process where they are essentially electrically bonded to the media. Finally, our filter elements are designed such that each water molecule can take several minutes to pass through the filter elements whereas these molecules passing through other filtration systems pass through those filters in literally microseconds. The longer the water molecules are in contact with any media, the greater the removal of the various contaminates.

So while it’s probably safe to drink pool water filtered by a black Berkey filter, since it’s not listed I’m not willing to risk it in all but the worst circumstances. I’ve got access to a river and other water sources that aren’t treated at all that I do trust the black Berkey filters to work with.

But if the pool water is your only source then you have to weigh the risks unless someone can find information that it will remove the algicides, or that there is another filter that says it definitely will remove them.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
TRex2 wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

Well, that was part of the reason I said that, for drinking,
you should use a quality filter.
I can’t find any definite statement, but I would bet,
the Berkey filters use charcoal, or something like charcoal.

None of the chemicals listed as algicides in the wikpedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algaecide were listed on the black Berkey filter spec page I linked above. That makes me concerned.

The one thing I do know for sure about the black Berkey filters is that they aren’t just filled with activated charcoal like some filters (like the Brita filters.) Here is part of a FAQ I found on the filters:

http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/he … urces/faq/

What are the Black Berkey elements made out of and how do they work?

Without getting too complex, several methodologies are utilized by the Black Berkey purification elements. The elements are composed of a formulation of more than a half dozen different media types constructed into a very fine matrix creating millions of micro-fine pores. The pores are so small that pathogenic bacteria, cysts, parasites, sediment and sedimentary minerals are not able to pass through them. The media formulation both “absorbs” some contaminates and “adsorbs” other contaminates. Next, heavy metals ions (mineral molecules) are extracted through an Ion exchange process where they are essentially electrically bonded to the media. Finally, our filter elements are designed such that each water molecule can take several minutes to pass through the filter elements whereas these molecules passing through other filtration systems pass through those filters in literally microseconds. The longer the water molecules are in contact with any media, the greater the removal of the various contaminates.

So while it’s probably safe to drink pool water filtered by a black Berkey filter, since it’s not listed I’m not willing to risk it in all but the worst circumstances. I’ve got access to a river and other water sources that aren’t treated at all that I do trust the black Berkey filters to work with.

But if the pool water is your only source then you have to weigh the risks unless someone can find information that it will remove the algicides, or that there is another filter that says it definitely will remove them.

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Water • Re: Best Water Filter?

June 16, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

My opinion is that most folks use algicides as well as bleach to keep their pools from turning green and I’m not sure I’d trust any filters to remove the algicides. Maybe the high end filters like Berkey black filters, but personally I’d either distill it before drinking it, or just use it as gray water for plants or to stop sewer gasses from coming out of empty toilet or sink traps.

Reference: http://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans … fications/

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Who Will Be Your Doctor?

June 9, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

Don’t forget that in addition to who is going to be the medic in your group, you need to know who is the backup medic in case the primary person becomes injured or sick and can’t treat themselves let alone others.

I know it’s useful that I have medical preps, but I also keep basic instructions by each set of tools, tablets, etc so if I’m unable to provide care to our group that my wife or other competent adult has a clue. Doesn’t matter how much ORS powder, how many bottles of OTC meds, or how well my pet medicine cabinet is stocked if the backup medic doesn’t know what to use when….

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

???? ‘- lucky you if you EVER have that much to haul during a SHTF – target that big is hard to miss …. how’s a heavy garden cart taking you 5 miles down the road to Bartertown Flea Market for exchanging a few pounds of goods for another few pounds in return …. and like most people – hard to store – innocuous – SHTF only items aren’t going to cut it for preppers … you’re an anomaly having current day to day use – we use a thing called a truck ….

I am pretty lucky that I have room for occasional use only items. The garden cart gets used only a few times a year for moving things around during planting season and for fall cleanup. But it’s durable enough that I really got it to haul water. I’m not as young as I used to be and I don’t want to have to haul water by hand from the river every day if the SHTF. By having the cart I can haul 25 gallons back from the river and not have to worry about going back for a few days to a week depending on how many folks make it to my place.

And sure, if I was going to the local post SHTF flea market then I’d be a fool to bring a cart fully loaded with barter supplies, but I’m not a fool and have backpacks and smaller carts too. I plan on blending in and not being a juicy target – although a large part of that will be not going to any trading markets until well after things have stabilized. No reason to advertise I have more than others.

I just wanted folks to think about carts as well as bikes. Bikes give you range, but carts let you haul heavy stuff around – water, rocks/bricks, wood, or whatever.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 8, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

???? ‘- lucky you if you EVER have that much to haul during a SHTF – target that big is hard to miss …. how’s a heavy garden cart taking you 5 miles down the road to Bartertown Flea Market for exchanging a few pounds of goods for another few pounds in return …. and like most people – hard to store – innocuous – SHTF only items aren’t going to cut it for preppers … you’re an anomaly having current day to day use – we use a thing called a truck ….

I am pretty lucky that I have room for occasional use only items. The garden cart gets used only a few times a year for moving things around during planting season and for fall cleanup. But it’s durable enough that I really got it to haul water. I’m not as young as I used to be and I don’t want to have to haul water by hand from the river every day if the SHTF. By having the cart I can haul 25 gallons back from the river and not have to worry about going back for a few days to a week depending on how many folks make it to my place.

And sure, if I was going to the local post SHTF flea market then I’d be a fool to bring a cart fully loaded with barter supplies, but I’m not a fool and have backpacks and smaller carts too. I plan on blending in and not being a juicy target – although a large part of that will be not going to any trading markets until well after things have stabilized. No reason to advertise I have more than others.

I just wanted folks to think about carts as well as bikes. Bikes give you range, but carts let you haul heavy stuff around – water, rocks/bricks, wood, or whatever.

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:04 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 6, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:01 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bicycles; are they worth the Investment

June 6, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
bikes aren’t only for bugging out – you’ll be needing non-motorized transportation for getting around and hauling things ….

Heavy-duty garden carts are more useful for hauling things around. I have a cart with a 400 pound capacity, that I can use to lug water jugs from the river or move supplies around anywhere I can walk.

But I do want to add some bikes to my preps since they are just so useful compared to just being stuck on foot. But even if I get a bike trailer, I don’t expect to be able to move the same amount of stuff that I can on that garden cart…

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:01 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Another Orlando Shooting

June 5, 2017 dmwalsh568 0

A few details at:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/bre … t12aH-3la1

The Orange County Sheriff’s Office is reporting this morning that the are “multiple fatalities” in a shooting on North Forsyth Road near Hanging Moss Road in Orlando. There is not an active shooter, however. “OCSO working shooting scene that has stabilized. Multiple fatalities. Situation contained….

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

May 30, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
ReadyMom wrote:
-sigh- … is it me …or do things seem to be getting worse instead of better & ratcheting up between the US & N.K? -k

It’s not just you. I’ve been feeling my anxiety ratchet up as the heat turns up between US and NK. I’ve been topping off my preps, keeping my ready electronics shielded overnight, and making room to squeeze even more preps in…just in case. I know I’m better prepared than most folks locally, but an EMP attack will have such long term devastating results that it would be really ugly.

And there has been some talk that NK is already attacking the west with cyber weapons.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ … rity-chief
North Korea top suspect for WannaCry attack, says ex US security chief
Methods used in ransomware attack on NHS and in up to 100 countries similar to those used by Pyongyang in the past, says Michael Chertoff

Although more recent reports attribute it to China:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2 … perts-say/
WannaCry cyber hackers linked to China not North Korea, experts say

But the mere news report, whether it is true or fake, is enough to keep adding to the pressure between US and NK.

And so I sit here wondering if I can squeeze another case of Yoder’s bacon out of my supply budget…

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Explosion at Manchester England concert

May 26, 2017 dmwalsh568 0
Permafrost wrote:

dmwalsh568 wrote:What really needs to happen is to have police patrolling in the soft zones outside of secured areas to try and deter or if possible catch suicide bombers before they can blow everyone up, like happens in Israel (our security forces really need to reach out and get some lessons from the IDF.) And before anyone suggests moving the security zone out further- that just moves the soft targets further out and means more security is needed to have a chance of catching folks since the unsecured perimeter becomes that much larger.

As if we don’t already live in a police state, you think it should be worse? It is already impossible to go anywhere without being put under surveillance, and illegally searched at any location the “authorities” deem important. Now you want even more cops harassing innocent people on the off chance they might catch someone.

Perhaps the answer is to recognize that the world is not a safe place, and it never has been. The answer is not more security, it is less security and a change in mentality. People die, if they didn’t there would be even worse overcrowding than there already is. To expect absolute safety is unrealistic. Perhaps it would be better to just live every day as if it was your last and get people to actually enjoy their lives so that when they die it is not such a big deal. It doesn’t matter if it is a car crash or a bear attack or cancer or falling through the ice or a terrorist attack, eventually everyone will die. On the day this attack happened more people died in car accidents worldwide than terrorist attacks, but nobody is suggesting that every car come with a cop to keep you safe. A free society is not a safe society, and a safe society is never free.

I wasn’t as precise in my wording as I should have been. :blush:

What I was trying to get across is the idea that these large venue events need to be treated like Airports, with a soft perimeter that is patrolled by police before you get to the actual security checkpoints and into the secure zone.

I was not trying to say random stops and searches anywhere are ok. I definitely think they are a violation of our rights.

But large venue events need to have an outer layer of security to reduce the risk of a mass casualty event. Nothing will eliminate risk, and it’s worth carefully balancing any need for safety against freedom of movement and personal liberty.

To circle back to the main topic, I suspect that if Manchester police had been patrolling an outer perimeter that they weren’t expecting an attack AFTER the concert, when in hindsight it provided a soft target. I think security plans for large events will be updated accordingly.

Statistics: Posted by dmwalsh568 — Fri May 26, 2017 6:49 am