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Guns • Re: More Gun Laws?

February 23, 2018 anita 0

Patriotic Stabilist, we don’t agree on much, but I thank your family for its service.Statistics: Posted by anita — Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:57 pm

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A.N.T.S. • Re: Driverless Auto’s

January 24, 2018 anita 0

Have you seen the video of the Tesla on auto pilot crash into the barrier?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ml6sjk_8cand a fatal crash into a truck. http://abc7news.com/automotive/tesla-se … h/1410042/Of course, it takes time for things to get perfe…

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General Homesteading Topics • Re: Co-op Farming

January 14, 2018 anita 0

Since I moved last fall, I’m probably going to participate in a CSA this year, while I get my garden set up, as I think it will be too late for me to plant much but a fall crop by the time I get the raised beds in, soil in, fence around, and so forth….

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Gardening • Re: Organic pest repellents?

December 5, 2017 anita 0

Swamp – I had read that radishes planted around squash helped with squash beetles. I did that one year, and it did seem like I had less problem. I have wondered if wrapping copper wire (like you use for mice) or something similar around the lower part…

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Guns • Re: Remington faces default

November 25, 2017 anita 0

I purchased some Ruger stock back when obama was president. Here’s an interesting tidbit I didn’t realize–their dividend rises and falls with earnings. Most companies have a steady dividend that might go up once a year, but I’ve never encountered one…

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Las Vegas attack

October 5, 2017 anita 0
ReadyMom wrote:

anita wrote:How about an ice pack, the type you crumple and it gets cold? That was one of the things I had in my car kit. I can’t tell you how many of those I went through at soccer games!

I want this kit for in case of attacks like in Vegas vs player injuries.

I understand, but you also mentioned this:

The kit Needs to be compact, light-weight, but useful for unusual casualty injury situation or car/playground injuries!

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Las Vegas attack

October 5, 2017 anita 0
ReadyMom wrote:

anita wrote:How about an ice pack, the type you crumple and it gets cold? That was one of the things I had in my car kit. I can’t tell you how many of those I went through at soccer games!

I want this kit for in case of attacks like in Vegas vs player injuries.

I understand, but you also mentioned this:

The kit Needs to be compact, light-weight, but useful for unusual casualty injury situation or car/playground injuries!

Statistics: Posted by anita — Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:05 pm


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: October 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

October 4, 2017 anita 0

Moving on Friday!

Purged a lot of older canned goods, dried beans, etc. (I’ve been sprouting dried lentils/beans and feeding to the chickens.) Now the chickens are gone. Plan to install a new Fort Knox chicken coop and run within the fenced orchard area this spring, once I get the house squared away.

A lot to do. Can’t wait to get started.

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General Canning Topics • Re: Older Home Canned Food

September 22, 2017 anita 0
daaswampman wrote:
If you want to eat the most nutritious food you can (which old canned goods, etc., clearly are not), then you don’t eat food that is years past its pull date.

If you want to eat the most nutritious food, then your only choice is fresh and organically grown! Every typical diet (even with can goods), will supply more than enough Vitamins for the average person. The real problem with all commercial foods, is a lack of trace minerals, but that is due to growing conditions and not preservation method or age. Swamp

The lack of trace minerals is a problem, which is why I use azomite in my garden.

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General Canning Topics • Re: Older Home Canned Food

September 22, 2017 anita 0

I think this article proves my point. It agreed with me that the pull date isn’t some magical date after which the food isn’t any good, And, within the article, Janet Dudek said that the very old food had lower levels of vitamins–(and, oh by the way, no one tasted it, and frankly, it doesn’t sound like they did a lot of testing on it either.)

This debate happens every time this subject comes up, and frankly, I don’t know why I waste my time (I guess because I think good nutrition and food safety are important and I see all sorts of misinformation bandied about on these boards). People want to believe that there is nothing wrong with eating expired food, and in most cases, there isn’t, as long as the food isn’t years past its pull date.

There is a difference in food quality (and that isn’t necessarily something that can be observed) between eating recently expired food and food that expired several years ago. That’s just a fact. There’s also a difference between eating an old jelly, loaded with sugar, that you aren’t eating for the vitamins, and eating canned fruit or vegetables, or meats.

I also said that I’d eat very old food it if I were desperate and had nothing else. But there’s a big difference between being desperate, with nothing else to eat, and being penny wise and pound foolish. I tend to use canned foods if they are within 6 months, maybe a year past their pull date. But if you eat old canned goods and they provide you with little nutrition, or the fats have gone rancid, what have you saved?

If you want to eat the most nutritious food you can (which old canned goods, etc., clearly are not), then you don’t eat food that is years past its pull date.

Now, what the pull date really is for home-canned food is a whole other debate, because the USDA just puts a blanket one year expiration on it all, and clearly that isn’t anything definitive. I have tomatoes canned two years ago sitting in my basement that I intend to use, as long as they look/smell fine. But I will use them up or toss them before next year’s canning season. I also have pickles canned in 2015 and 2016 that I will definitely toss, because they darken and get soft after a year. (One more thing to do before I move!)

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General Canning Topics • Re: Older Home Canned Food

September 20, 2017 anita 0

Obviously if you have nothing, you eat whatever you can find. People drink their own urine, cannibalize, or eat their dogs, or rats, or bugs when they are desperate. (Look what’s happening in Venezuela right now.)

That isn’t the question here.

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General Canning Topics • Re: Older Home Canned Food

September 20, 2017 anita 0

I just posted about this on another thread.

I have a BS in Food Science.

Canned food does not go bad on the pull date. That date gives an identifier, should something have to be recalled, as well as indication of when something should be replaced, but it doesn’t mean it’s no good the day or week after it expires.

Having said that, food degrades from the moment it is picked. It can be preserved to last longer, but it is constantly degrading, softening, darkening, losing vitamins, etc. The fats go rancid with time.

Have I eaten food past its due date? Yes. Do I eat things 5-10 years after? No. Whether it looks or tastes fine isn’t the issue. It’s whether the food still has much nutrition left in it. And that is on a continuum. From the time it is harvested on, the food is degrading. It may not make you sick. That doesn’t mean it’s good for you.

And, just as an example, about a year ago I got some gluten-free pasta out of my stores. It was well past the due date, but I used it anyway, because I figured–what could go bad with pasta? The next day I woke up with bloodshot, puffy eyes and other symptoms of having eaten something that wasn’t good for me. I’m pretty tuned in to how my body reacts to things (need to be after having celiac.) Twenty years ago I might not have noticed the reaction, but I did have a reaction, even though the pasta looked/tasted fine.

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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 18, 2017 anita 0

Swamp, you love to pick a fight.

I said that if it were all I had available, I’d drink the milk, eat the food, whatever, as long as it wasn’t obviously bad.

But that’s not what is going on here. This is about using up expired 5 (or so) year-old product, rather than feeding it to the chickens or dog or tossing it. My educated opinion is that it is penny-wise and pound foolish, but that’s just me. But I tend to be cautious about what I put in my body.

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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 18, 2017 anita 0

There is no question that food products degrade over time. It doesn’t matter if it’s fresh, frozen, dried, or canned. If you don’t believe in free radicals, perhaps you’ll at least admit that the vitamins in the food diminish or the fats turn rancid.

If you doubt me, buy a can of the same food product, same manufacturer, every year, for 4 or 5 years. Open them all at the same time. Compare them. Will there be a difference? In all likelihood–yes. I can’t guarantee that it discernible for each and every item you might buy, but they degrade over time. I’ve noticed the difference in mushrooms, in beets, in carrots, in green beans, in canned soups. And that’s just a visual difference. Once I see it doesn’t look like a fresher product, I don’t taste it.

Eat them if you want, but there is no question that they won’t be as nutritious as a fresher product.

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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 18, 2017 anita 0

There is no question that food products degrade over time. It doesn’t matter if it’s fresh, frozen, dried, or canned. If you don’t believe in free radicals, perhaps you’ll at least admit that the vitamins in the food diminish or the fats turn rancid.

If you doubt me, buy a can of the same food product, same manufacturer, every year, for 4 or 5 years. Open them all at the same time. Compare them. Will there be a difference? In all likelihood–yes. I can’t guarantee that it discernible for each and every item you might buy, but they degrade over time. I’ve noticed the difference in mushrooms, in beets, in carrots, in green beans, in canned soups. And that’s just a visual difference. Once I see it doesn’t look like a fresher product, I don’t taste it.

Eat them if you want, but there is no question that they won’t be as nutritious as a fresher product.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:41 pm


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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 17, 2017 anita 0

I’m putting on my Food Science hat again. Sorry.

Just because you think it tastes fine doesn’t mean it is good for you. The fats and proteins degrade over time, and while it might not taste bad, it doesn’t mean there aren’t free radicals, rancid fats, etc in it.

I’m moving in a couple of weeks, and have been opening expired canned food and so forth and feeding to the dog, cats, and chickens, as appropriate. I don’t feel badly giving it to the pets, but that doesn’t mean I am willing to ingest it myself.

Having said that, the expiration date on foods is only an estimate, and more of a date to identify when the can was processed than a real “not good after” date. I’ve been eating cans of salmon that expired a year ago, but have recently given it up and started giving it to the pets. It looks/seems fine, but it’s getting too old for me to want to eat myself. (All the pets loved it though! The chickens found it particularly tasty. )

My guess–and it’s an educated guess, but just a guess–is that there have been some changes in the dehydrated milk that may make it not the best for you. If it looked/tasted fine in an emergency situation, I’d eat it as necessary, but I wouldn’t do it if it weren’t necessary. But that’s just me.

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Louisiana Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Sanctuary City Success

September 17, 2017 anita 0
daaswampman wrote:

anita wrote:And yet illegals have a lower crime rate than citizens.

I’ve heard that repeated by liberals so often I am sure it’s true. :shock:

I have heard that too, but how would they know that? Do they actually know how many illegals there are or do they play the numbers to skew the results?

Just like Hillary lost the election due to Russian interference and a cosmic alignment! It had nothing to do with her lies, an owe it to me attitude, and a caustic personality. What the hell – she almost slept her way to the top! Swamp

Since virtually every illegal in this country broke the law (when they entered the country illegally) it can’t be true. It’s just a meme repeated so often that people accept it.

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Water • Re: Spill Containment Trays – help!

September 16, 2017 anita 0

I use the under-the-bed blanket plastic containers for holding anything I worry might spill, and I use boot trays for some things as well.

There are also the trays that go under washing machines, but they aren’t that big.

Also, for puppies, I use piece of a rubber shower liner. They sell it at Home Depot and I think it comes in a four or six foot width. You just tell them the length you want, they cut it, and done. No lip, but I put it under the big playpen thing that can attach to the crate, and it gives a nice-sized area for the puppy. It’s food/water/newspaper can all go in there, and you can just roll it up when you don’t need it.

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General California Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Harvey – Irma Survivers/ Preppers

September 15, 2017 anita 0

I agree about having the container with a spigot on it at the sink. I also have one in every bathroom when the power is out. Great for hand-washing, or getting a glass of water. I fill them whenever I expect the power to go out. The ones I have hold about a gallon.

I have several little O2Cool battery-powered fans. They are great when there’s no Power or A/C. The batteries last forever and just that bit of air movement is helpful.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:16 pm


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General California Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Harvey – Irma Survivers/ Preppers

September 13, 2017 anita 0

Yes, let’s hear them.

I’ll add one from Sandy. This was pre-generator. I have a solar Goal Zero deep-cell battery that I had charged prior to the storm. I could hook it to the router in the evening and run WI-FI throughout the house, and we could use our computers. It was a real lifeline.

I was able to take the battery/laptops to the office and recharge during the day so that they were fully charged at night. If I had had to rely on the solar charging, I wouldn’t have been able to run everything every night. I’ve also been able to run the fan for the fireplace insert with the battery. Those things have been a good investment.

Statistics: Posted by anita — Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:27 am