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A.N.T.S. • Re: DNA Test Kits

October 17, 2017 angie_nrs 0

oldasrocks wrote:I think I’ll get a kit and send in my German Shepherd saliva and see what I get back. Or better yet mix it with mine. That ought to ring some bells.I totally DARE You!! I honestly did bust out laughing at this…..Thanks! Statis…

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A.N.T.S. • Re: DNA Test Kits

October 17, 2017 angie_nrs 0

The intrusiveness potential of Ancestry or any other place doing DNA sampling has concerned me since I saw the first TV ad. There’s no way in heck I would submit my DNA to anyone intentionally. Where I came from for curiosity’s sake is not a good en…

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First Aid & Medicine • Re: Type II Diabetes

October 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0

You are right Fullmoon. Many times the treatments attempt to treat the symptoms but exacerbate the underlying problem that causes the symptoms. This causes a vicious cycle that never gets better.I highly suggest reading "The Obesity Code"….

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 24, 2017 angie_nrs 0
Illini Warrior wrote:

jimLE wrote:mostly been pedaling around lately..i have buckets and totes with food and other stuff in them,in which their kept in my bedroom closet,right along with some home canned foods..got a handwritten list taped to each bucket indicating to what’s in them.got the canned foods properly boxed.next will be numbering the buckets and totes.and printing a list of what’s in each bucket and tote.then putting that into 3 ring notebook..

if there’s any possibility of any outsiders seeing those inventoried totes/buckets – you should just assign a code number/color and keep the actual inventory listing filed away separately …. not a bad idea to fake label SHTF gear storage containers with something average like ” Christmas decorations” …..

That’s kinda what I do. I label totes to tell me where they are stored and the corresponding number to the number I put in my notebook. For example, I’ll label tote A-1 on the outside…..which means nothing to anyone but me. A – means it’s in the storage shed and 1 means it is tote #1 in my notebook…..so at the top of the page is” A-1″ and all the contents of the tote are listed on that page. If I move the tote to the basement, I just change the label on the container and the notebook to B “basement”-(whatever the next number is for the B totes). It’s pretty easy to do with a 3-ring binder b/c you can just move the pages around in any order that suits your needs. Now, if someone found my notebook and decided to read it…… But I highly doubt anyone, including a thief would bother to go through my file cabinet and dig out my notebook. I also highly doubt those items are what they would be looking for.

You could also use the letter system to categorize your stuff. A might be food, B might be medical, C might be hardware, D might be canning supplies, etc. Or you could combine letters to distinguish location and type of prep as well…..like AD-1. I don’t do that but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.

This month I added some books to my library, stored another 10 gallons of water, added some canned soup to the pantry, and added some ammo. I also went out and did some practice shooting. :gunshooting: The other day I found a 5 gallon gas can in the middle of the road. I went back and picked it up. :clap: It must’ve blown out of the back of someones boat as lots of folks were getting boats out of the water for the season. Everyone was swerving out of the way of it……can’t believe someone didn’t pick it up before I did. Stopped at a few garage sales and got some knives, books, and a couple sweatshirts…….but garage sales were mostly a bust.

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General California Discussion, News and Weather • Re: What to do if the SHTF and I am out…..way out.

September 24, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I’ve thought about this before when going on vacation somewhere far away. Usually I only go far away on vacation during the winter months, which would throw another wrench into the mix. I refuse to let fear rule my life so I go where I want to go, prepare as well as I can, and hope for the best. Clearly when you travel on a plane, your options are greatly reduced as far as what you can take with you.

If I ever got stranded somewhere far from home I would do what I could to make my way back home. It may take a very long time, but what else are ya gonna do? Getting home would be my ultimate goal and I would just have to improvise along the way. I could only hope my skills would get me there.

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General California Discussion, News and Weather • Re: What to do if the SHTF and I am out…..way out.

September 24, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I’ve thought about this before when going on vacation somewhere far away. Usually I only go far away on vacation during the winter months, which would throw another wrench into the mix. I refuse to let fear rule my life so I go where I want to go, prepare as well as I can, and hope for the best. Clearly when you travel on a plane, your options are greatly reduced as far as what you can take with you.

If I ever got stranded somewhere far from home I would do what I could to make my way back home. It may take a very long time, but what else are ya gonna do? Getting home would be my ultimate goal and I would just have to improvise along the way. I could only hope my skills would get me there.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 21, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Thanks for the comments everyone! I may have been overthinking this one a bit. I’m going to grab some ammo cans and diversify my storage. I’m sure I’ve got ammo stored that will outlast me……at least I hope so. I guess my main concerns should be theft, water, and fire. Storing ammo in different places and in different types of containers should mitigate these concerns, so that’s my plan.

If nothing else at least it’s a good investment as the price is going nowhere but up. I also think there’s a day coming in the not so distant future where all ammo purchases will have to be logged or registered. I’m stocking up now while it’s still legal and cash is still king.

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Virginia Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Prepping Fatigue?

September 21, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I really don’t know what others are doing and I don’t worry too much about them. They’re gonna do what they’re gonna do no matter what I think anyways. I myself have had periods of prepping fatigue. During the summer I typically don’t give it a whole lotta thought or attention. Then in the fall I usually ramp it up. For me, it’s kinda like dollar cost averaging. I spend a bit here and there but don’t usually dump a bunch of money all at once…..slow and steady wins the race and helps me to not get too overwhelmed. That said, I do have quite a trip planned for tomorrow to add to my preps. I also have projects lined up for fall, that would have been too hot to do in the summer.

Even when I slack I still take some comfort in the fact that I have accomplished some things. I will never be 100% ready for everything but I know I’m way ahead of where I was just a few years ago…..and likely ahead of most of my neighbors, but who knows?

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Guns • Need advice on storing ammo

September 19, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Do I need to buy ammo cans for proper ammo storage or can I use food buckets? There are cheap plastic plano ammo cans at WM for around $5, but I can get food grade buckets free. Right now I store ammo in the house where it is dry, but I want to expand where I store ammo. The temperature may not be as steady in my secondary spot, possibly causing condensation issues.

I know I couldn’t fill the buckets b/c they would be way too heavy, even with the smaller 2 gallon buckets, but at least they would be hidden from plain sight. I’m thinking it would make sense to put the silica packs in with the buckets?

I didn’t see a thread specifically addressing ammo storage so I thought this would be a good discussion to have. Let’s discuss……

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Water • Re: Spill Containment Trays – help!

September 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0

dm – yeah, I’ve found the industrial type of trays. It’s not what I’m looking for. The one you have there that looks like an ice fishing sled is one of the closest I’ve found to what I saw. Unfortunately, the chafing dishes wouldn’t be big enough for what I’m looking for. I’d like to put 5 gal water bottles in there and detergent bottles….very large liquid bottles all in the same container/area to save space. Thanks for the idea though.

Blondie – Yup, went to TS and got the rabbit pen containers which is the closest thing I’ve found so far that didn’t break the bank. They didn’t have what I was looking for. On Amazon I found the “jumbo boot tray” that folks use in the back of an SUV and also the UltraTech 2370 which is 44″ by 23.5″ and it is close, but it is also $55. However, neither one of them are what I saw. :( I sure wish I would have had the truck that day! If I remember correctly I think she said her husband got them at Home Depot but I asked there and they didn’t have anything like that.

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Water • Re: Spill Containment Trays – help!

September 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0

dm – yeah, I’ve found the industrial type of trays. It’s not what I’m looking for. The one you have there that looks like an ice fishing sled is one of the closest I’ve found to what I saw. Unfortunately, the chafing dishes wouldn’t be big enough for what I’m looking for. I’d like to put 5 gal water bottles in there and detergent bottles….very large liquid bottles all in the same container/area to save space. Thanks for the idea though.

Blondie – Yup, went to TS and got the rabbit pen containers which is the closest thing I’ve found so far that didn’t break the bank. They didn’t have what I was looking for. On Amazon I found the “jumbo boot tray” that folks use in the back of an SUV and also the UltraTech 2370 which is 44″ by 23.5″ and it is close, but it is also $55. However, neither one of them are what I saw. :( I sure wish I would have had the truck that day! If I remember correctly I think she said her husband got them at Home Depot but I asked there and they didn’t have anything like that.

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Water • Spill Containment Trays – help!

September 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I went to a garage sale in the spring and there was 2 spill containment trays that I really wanted to buy, but I couldn’t b/c they wouldn’t fit in my car. :( I haven’t been able to get these things out of my head since then. They were approximately 4 foot long by 2-3 feet wide with an approximately 3 inch lip along the sides for spill containment. They were black hard plastic with a white plug on one corner in the lip portion so that anything that did spill in this thing could be tipped out through the plug, perhaps for reuse.

Anyways, I have not been able to find these things anywhere! Even online I can’t find them, probably b/c I don’t know specifically what they are called. I’ve tried spill containment trays, catchment mats, etc. and I can’t find exactly what I’m looking for. In the meantime I bought a couple of rabbit pen catchment trays at TS but they are smaller than what I would like. I plan to use them to put my fluids in like water, oil, vinegar, laundry detergent, etc. so that if any of them leak, I won’t have a complete mess to deal with. If a situation gets bad enough, I plan to convert them to large dog litter boxes in case the pups must stay in for an extended period of time for any reason. I also purchased some non-dusty, clump, kitty litter to accommodate the mess should that be necessary.

Does anybody know these trays are called or where I could get them? Having a few of these in my basement would be really helpful. :thumbsup:

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General Food Topics • Storing food in a basement

September 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0

At the beginning of the summer I finished my basement. We coated the floor with garage floor sealant and then covered it with a very thin carpeting just to make it a bit more comfy. We also painted all the walls with a latex sealant and then painted (with regular paint) over that. I thought the basement would be good to go since it seemed solid up to that point as we never had any water leaks or problems even though we got a ton of rain this spring and summer.

This summer I started putting canned goods and such down there. So, boxes of canned goods have been sitting there for a few months. I left boxes stacked on the floor and planned to organize it all in early fall. I just got some storage racks put together and was starting to get things put in their appropriate place today. When I was picking up boxes from the floor, I noticed that the cardboard was just slightly moist on the bottom boxes. Also, some of my homemade canned goods had that white mold film on the outside of the glass jars. I guess I underestimated the role of humidity coming from the floor in the basement. It stays closed up for the most part, but it’s not air tight. It’s always much cooler down there. Temps are usually in the 50’s or maybe low 60’s on hot days. I guess I should’ve kept the dehumidifier down there b/c I checked a plastic tote (that was on the floor) that had 6 packs of salt in it (along with some other things) and the salt was hard as a rock and the paper on the bottom of them looked moist. Grrrrrrr! So glad salt is cheap! The salt I stored in a bucket was fine.

So here’s some lessons learned for anyone considering doing the same thing.

1. Keep a humidity reader in your basement on the floor.
2. Keep a dehumidifier in your basement!
3. Don’t store anything directly on the floor, even if it’s in a tote.
4. Keep in mind that totes won’t keep air out of the box. Only sealed buckets will do that.
5. Keep things stored on racks to keep things off the floor and make it easier to keep an eye on things.
6. Don’t just store it and forget it. You have to keep checking things to make sure they are holding up OK.

I’m glad I found all of this out before I started storing my books and photos down there. Once I get the excess water out of the air and keep the dehumidifier on, i’m hoping it will be problem solved. I guess I should’ve invested in floor padding……too late now.

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General Food Topics • Storing food in a basement

September 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0

At the beginning of the summer I finished my basement. We coated the floor with garage floor sealant and then covered it with a very thin carpeting just to make it a bit more comfy. We also painted all the walls with a latex sealant and then painted (with regular paint) over that. I thought the basement would be good to go since it seemed solid up to that point as we never had any water leaks or problems even though we got a ton of rain this spring and summer.

This summer I started putting canned goods and such down there. So, boxes of canned goods have been sitting there for a few months. I left boxes stacked on the floor and planned to organize it all in early fall. I just got some storage racks put together and was starting to get things put in their appropriate place today. When I was picking up boxes from the floor, I noticed that the cardboard was just slightly moist on the bottom boxes. Also, some of my homemade canned goods had that white mold film on the outside of the glass jars. I guess I underestimated the role of humidity coming from the floor in the basement. It stays closed up for the most part, but it’s not air tight. It’s always much cooler down there. Temps are usually in the 50’s or maybe low 60’s on hot days. I guess I should’ve kept the dehumidifier down there b/c I checked a plastic tote (that was on the floor) that had 6 packs of salt in it (along with some other things) and the salt was hard as a rock and the paper on the bottom of them looked moist. Grrrrrrr! So glad salt is cheap! The salt I stored in a bucket was fine.

So here’s some lessons learned for anyone considering doing the same thing.

1. Keep a humidity reader in your basement on the floor.
2. Keep a dehumidifier in your basement!
3. Don’t store anything directly on the floor, even if it’s in a tote.
4. Keep in mind that totes won’t keep air out of the box. Only sealed buckets will do that.
5. Keep things stored on racks to keep things off the floor and make it easier to keep an eye on things.
6. Don’t just store it and forget it. You have to keep checking things to make sure they are holding up OK.

I’m glad I found all of this out before I started storing my books and photos down there. Once I get the excess water out of the air and keep the dehumidifier on, i’m hoping it will be problem solved. I guess I should’ve invested in floor padding……too late now.

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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 9, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I keep old keys that we have from equipment we don’t have just for this reason. I have a key box for those mis-placed, unused, etc. keys that we will likely never use. Snowmobiles were the same way and all took the same key. I don’t know if they updated those or not. But we do have keys for snowmobiles that we don’t even have anymore.

I kinda chuckled thinking about someone trying to steel BIL’s equipment. Unless you have a key, shake this wire twice, pull on that cord, and lean on that lever all at the same time…..you’re not getting it started. :rofl: Ha, he can’t even get it started half the time. :shakeno: A “would be” thief would probably know better than to try and steel his crappy equipment. But it would be fun to watch them try….. :evil:

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:13 pm


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BOB’s & BOV’s • Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

September 9, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I keep old keys that we have from equipment we don’t have just for this reason. I have a key box for those mis-placed, unused, etc. keys that we will likely never use. Snowmobiles were the same way and all took the same key. I don’t know if they updated those or not. But we do have keys for snowmobiles that we don’t even have anymore.

I kinda chuckled thinking about someone trying to steel BIL’s equipment. Unless you have a key, shake this wire twice, pull on that cord, and lean on that lever all at the same time…..you’re not getting it started. :rofl: Ha, he can’t even get it started half the time. :shakeno: A “would be” thief would probably know better than to try and steel his crappy equipment. But it would be fun to watch them try….. :evil:

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Guns • Re: Recommend a good conceal pistol for a female

September 8, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Thanks so much for the replies! They were very helpful.

As far as trying before you buy…..I knew I’d get that response. I get it, really I do. But that is just not an option where I’m at. If that was an option, I probably wouldn’t have bought my Air weight. It still has a place in my life. It’s just not what I was hoping for. So, it’s not a complete waste. No matter what I get, I’ll put it to use. But, this time I really want a conceal pistol.

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Guns • Recommend a good conceal pistol for a female

September 8, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I went shopping for a pistol today for a good conceal gun. I have a S&W Air weight that is too bulky/heavy for me to comfortably carry every day. So, I’m not really liking the revolvers for carry. I’ve also used a 9mm Gloc and Ruger SR9C and they are too big to comfortably carry for me. I’d carry on my hip when I walk the property, but it wouldn’t be something I would feel comfortable in public with. I also struggle sometimes with the slides. I have strong arms, but small wrists and weak hand grip and get sweaty hands when stressed. You should see me at the dentist. :rolleyes:

I went shopping today and spoke with a less than helpful salesman so I didn’t really get anywhere. I left with nothing. I’d like something small like a Ruger .380 or the LC9 but had some trouble with the slides on those as well. I liked the size and narrowness of both and would be more likely to carry something of that size. However, I really don’t want to struggle with the slide, especially if I should need it. I’m not overly experienced with guns. I’ll admit that I don’t practice nearly as much as I should. I’ve also never shot a .380 but have some experience with 38 and 9mm. I don’t know if that makes much difference or not.

I really don’t want a .22. I already have one. Price is always a consideration, but if it was a gun that I felt completely comfortable with, I’d spend the money. So in conclusion I’m looking for a small carry pistol that is easily concealed, light, and not bulky. I’m looking for .380, 38, or 9mm. I’m also looking for ease of use……most notably an easy to handle slide if a semi-auto.

There is no place in my neck of the woods to shoot before you buy. You can handle before you buy, but that’s it. I also don’t know anyone that has a .380 or a LC9 or any other smaller gun that I could try before I buy. That said, anyone have any suggestions?

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Guns • Recommend a good conceal pistol for a female

September 8, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I went shopping for a pistol today for a good conceal gun. I have a S&W Air weight that is too bulky/heavy for me to comfortably carry every day. So, I’m not really liking the revolvers for carry. I’ve also used a 9mm Gloc and Ruger SR9C and they are too big to comfortably carry for me. I’d carry on my hip when I walk the property, but it wouldn’t be something I would feel comfortable in public with. I also struggle sometimes with the slides. I have strong arms, but small wrists and weak hand grip and get sweaty hands when stressed. You should see me at the dentist. :rolleyes:

I went shopping today and spoke with a less than helpful salesman so I didn’t really get anywhere. I left with nothing. I’d like something small like a Ruger .380 or the LC9 but had some trouble with the slides on those as well. I liked the size and narrowness of both and would be more likely to carry something of that size. However, I really don’t want to struggle with the slide, especially if I should need it. I’m not overly experienced with guns. I’ll admit that I don’t practice nearly as much as I should. I’ve also never shot a .380 but have some experience with 38 and 9mm. I don’t know if that makes much difference or not.

I really don’t want a .22. I already have one. Price is always a consideration, but if it was a gun that I felt completely comfortable with, I’d spend the money. So in conclusion I’m looking for a small carry pistol that is easily concealed, light, and not bulky. I’m looking for .380, 38, or 9mm. I’m also looking for ease of use……most notably an easy to handle slide if a semi-auto.

There is no place in my neck of the woods to shoot before you buy. You can handle before you buy, but that’s it. I also don’t know anyone that has a .380 or a LC9 or any other smaller gun that I could try before I buy. That said, anyone have any suggestions?

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 6, 2017 angie_nrs 0
TRex2 wrote:
Your experience with your masks in a room full of tear gas means the trainers didn’t know what they were doing. The whole point of the gas chamber is to teach you to quickly put it on correctly, and seal it. Then you go into the chamber, where you stand around talking with one another with no ill effects. Then each of you takes their mask off and gets to experience proof that the mask was working. If your mask didn’t work, the whole exercise was a waste.

Actually I think it’s my brain that wasn’t working correctly. I think my recall was off…..the scenario you presented sounds correct. I don’t remember much about the experience itself since it was many moons ago, but I do remember the aftermath when everyone was exposed to the gas and exited the room. When I could finally see out of my burning eyes, all I could see was uncontrollable drool, snot, tearing, and spitting from everyone…….myself included. THAT I remember. :blink:

Now I’m thinking I should probably just bag the idea of getting masks. I really don’t know anything about them and knowing when to use them will be a challenge. I think I could probably use the money in other areas and have a greater impact per dollar.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I think maybe that’s why I haven’t pulled the trigger on putting these in my preps. Although if someone wanted in and had tear gas bombs then these would sure come in handy. However, I think that scenario is likely pretty far fetched. I guess I always thought that my money could be spent more wisely in other areas. Still…..

I found this and am considering it….tell me what you think.
https://www.safecastle.com/products/ven … 6995950209

I agree with you both in that buying from surplus probably isn’t the best idea. I had the privilege of using a military gas mask and being in a room of tear gas. Yeah, that was fun. Nobody’s mask worked! I’m pretty sure that was intentional……what a slimy mess of an aftermath. Anyone who has gone thru that knows exactly what I mean. :drool:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I think maybe that’s why I haven’t pulled the trigger on putting these in my preps. Although if someone wanted in and had tear gas bombs then these would sure come in handy. However, I think that scenario is likely pretty far fetched. I guess I always thought that my money could be spent more wisely in other areas. Still…..

I found this and am considering it….tell me what you think.
https://www.safecastle.com/products/ven … 6995950209

I agree with you both in that buying from surplus probably isn’t the best idea. I had the privilege of using a military gas mask and being in a room of tear gas. Yeah, that was fun. Nobody’s mask worked! I’m pretty sure that was intentional……what a slimy mess of an aftermath. Anyone who has gone thru that knows exactly what I mean. :drool:

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I did a search and didn’t really find much here about the topic of gas masks. I plan on going to a military surplus store later in the week. I don’t have gas masks and am considering a purchase. So I have a few questions that i’m hoping someone here can answer…..

1. What specifically do I look for?
2. What is a reasonable price?
3. How many filters would be prudent?
4.. What types of disasters would a gas mask be used for?

I know that they would be useful in chemical warfare, but I really don’t concern myself too much with that since I don’t live in an urban area and I would think that a city would be more of a target. I’m not really sure how useful they would be in a nuke type situation? I’m still trying to educate myself on nuke fallout and precautions. There’s just so much to do that I haven’t been able to read up on that as much as I would like.

I also don’t want to “stand out” so to speak. I will pay with cash and I’m hoping the cashier doesn’t ask too many questions as I don’t like making face to face purchases such as this but I also don’t really want to buy online either. How do I make the purchase without drawing attention? Thankfully it is far enough away that they likely won’t know me, but close enough that I may know someone there too.

I’m also hoping I can find some bunny boots while there but I’m sure that is a long shot. I’ve only been to a surplus store a couple of other times many years ago. Anything else I need to consider purchasing while I’m there?

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I did a search and didn’t really find much here about the topic of gas masks. I plan on going to a military surplus store later in the week. I don’t have gas masks and am considering a purchase. So I have a few questions that i’m hoping someone here can answer…..

1. What specifically do I look for?
2. What is a reasonable price?
3. How many filters would be prudent?
4.. What types of disasters would a gas mask be used for?

I know that they would be useful in chemical warfare, but I really don’t concern myself too much with that since I don’t live in an urban area and I would think that a city would be more of a target. I’m not really sure how useful they would be in a nuke type situation? I’m still trying to educate myself on nuke fallout and precautions. There’s just so much to do that I haven’t been able to read up on that as much as I would like.

I also don’t want to “stand out” so to speak. I will pay with cash and I’m hoping the cashier doesn’t ask too many questions as I don’t like making face to face purchases such as this but I also don’t really want to buy online either. How do I make the purchase without drawing attention? Thankfully it is far enough away that they likely won’t know me, but close enough that I may know someone there too.

I’m also hoping I can find some bunny boots while there but I’m sure that is a long shot. I’ve only been to a surplus store a couple of other times many years ago. Anything else I need to consider purchasing while I’m there?

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New but slowly making progress

September 5, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Well, you picked a good time of the year to get started. Now is the time to get your seeds and supplies to get started for gardening next year. Everything is on sale! You can find seeds in hardware stores like ACE or Menards for 5-20 cents per pack (if not right now, very soon)…..keep your eyes open. You can also get any supplies you may need at a deep discount right now b/c stores are trying to clear the shelves for Christmas stuff.

Also within the next month you’ll see the canned food sales (Fall Sales) at your local grocery stores. It’s a great time to stock the pantry and save money to boot. I also hit the canned soup sales, which were just last week for me. Get rainchecks if you buy cases so that you don’t clear the shelves….plus the rainchecks are usually good for 60 days giving you time to save up some money if need be. With kids, you might want to keep an eye out for good deals on the canned foods they eat like Ravioli, Chili, or Stew. Instead of buying long term storage type of foods like dehydrated Mountain House foods or such that can be expensive and may not get used, I would recommend things like the Knorr side dishes of pasta or rice. They are already in the proper package to last quite a while and they are likely something that you will use. Many people have found that it makes more sense to stock what they eat so that nothing gets wasted.

You can always use your old laundry detergent bottles to stock water on the cheap. That water can be used for washing up or flushing the toilet. That plastic is pretty durable and it’s free! You just need the space for it.

Good luck and try not to get overwhelmed. There’s lots to do and lots to learn. Start small and build up from there. I think you’re on the right track starting with water and food. You’ve already gotten some great advise and APN is always here if you have questions. Welcome to the club!

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Physical Fitness • Re: Obesity epidemic at new high

September 4, 2017 angie_nrs 0

People don’t move like they once did. Of the Americans that do work, I would guess that most of them have sedentary jobs. Even those who are on the move, (like nurses) still don’t do hard labor like farmers used to do many years ago. Heck, I grew up in farm country and after school every day kids came home, changed their clothes, and headed out to the barn for milking. How often does that happen anymore??

I highly recommend the books The Obesity Code and The Complete Guide to Fasting. I have been intermittent fasting for a couple of months now. It really isn’t as hard as I thought it would be and it really is freeing to know that you can (and should) go many hours and days without food….it’s how we are genetically programmed. It’s not unhealthy and your blood sugar will not bottom out to nothing and you won’t hit the proverbial wall either. Do yourself a favor and just TRY IT! It will come in very handy to know how your body will react now and not wait until something happens where you many not have access to food for a few days. Of coarse, there are a few people who shouldn’t fast without a doctors consent…..look into it.

Much of the nutrition advice given in the past 50 years has been complete bunk…..as evidenced by our fat nation. Plus, doctors just want to treat the symptoms, not the cause. Put the fork down!!!!

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this was planned. There’s no better way to control people than to make them sick and then control their healthcare (or lack thereof). Obamacare anyone? How many Americans are slave to diabletes meds, heart meds, or narcotics???? And now even Uncle Sam knows what meds you are taking thanks to medical electronic records. Oh, how convenient! How many obese people have bad backs, then need pain meds, then get more sedentary, then need more pain meds, then eat more, then need more pain meds, then file for disability, then need more pain meds…….vicious cycle that has got to stop! But who’s going to stop it? These folks are easily controlled and it is all done legally.

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Prayer Requests • Re: Update on Rebnavy

September 4, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I had a bad feeling when I saw this thread today and tears filled my eyes when my worst fears were realized. I’m sure our good friend will be looking over us and I will take comfort in that. APN will not be the same without the contribution Reb made here. May his family find peace in the fact that Bill is no longer suffering and is in a better place.

Until we all meet again friend……..

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Prayer Requests • Re: Update on Rebnavy

September 4, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I had a bad feeling when I saw this thread today and tears filled my eyes when my worst fears were realized. I’m sure our good friend will be looking over us and I will take comfort in that. APN will not be the same without the contribution Reb made here. May his family find peace in the fact that Bill is no longer suffering and is in a better place.

Until we all meet again friend……..

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:25 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: $5 can of peanut butter!?!!?

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Not to stray too far from the subject….but….

Does anyone know why butter and cheese prices have spiked when milk prices are still low? Last year I stocked the freezer up on cheese 3 for $5 (8 oz pkgs) and butter was $1.99 per pound. I’ve noticed cheese hasn’t been going on sale much but at best I see 2 for $4 and butter is $3.79 per pound ON SALE. :eek: This is at the local grocer, so I’ll have to peek at Aldi the next time I’m there.

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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: $5 can of peanut butter!?!!?

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Not to stray too far from the subject….but….

Does anyone know why butter and cheese prices have spiked when milk prices are still low? Last year I stocked the freezer up on cheese 3 for $5 (8 oz pkgs) and butter was $1.99 per pound. I’ve noticed cheese hasn’t been going on sale much but at best I see 2 for $4 and butter is $3.79 per pound ON SALE. :eek: This is at the local grocer, so I’ll have to peek at Aldi the next time I’m there.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:58 pm


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Prayer Requests • Re: Update on Rebnavy

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0

I’m so heartbroken to hear this news, but thank you for keeping us posted.

It’s weird. I haven’t met anyone on this forum face to face, but I just know that if I had met Bill that I would’ve really liked him. He strikes me as a person who is not easily forgotten. I’ve missed him here. It’s like a spark is gone.

He is in my thoughts and prayers. May God bless him and his family.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: $5 can of peanut butter!?!!?

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0

You can still get good deals on PB if you’re not stuck on a particular brand. I tried Aldi PB a while back and was surprised with the creaminess of it. I really liked it and therefore have stocked that. I don’t remember how much it was, but it was pretty cheap. I’ve also used our local grocers brand and that was good too. I doubt most people will care what brand the food is when it is truly needed. I love to make sure I have plenty of PB on hand b/c it is so versatile, has a good amount of calories in it, doesn’t require cooking, and is a comfort food. Who doesn’t like PB? I’m so glad I don’t have an allergy to it!

Anyways, if you have an Aldi near you, try the PB and let me know what you think.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:18 am


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Washington Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Its a mistake….

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Well since the cat is out of the bag, really the only thing you can do is either move, move your stuff, or hide your stuff. None of those options are likely very convenient for you. But, since the word is already out, maybe you could start a group in your area? At least then you wouldn’t be alone in your efforts. If you decide to get a BOL, now you know to keep that information and location private, especially since people know you prep or your BOL will become a target as well.

It sounds like you read “One Second After”.

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New Mexico Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everyone?

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0
North Idaho Patriot wrote:
Everyone seems to be dispersed among the countless other social media sites, like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Blogger, Reddit, Snapchat, Etc… Most young people don’t seem to be interested in PHPBB forums anymore. The type of format we have here is not very conducive to the modern busy lifestyle of checking a smartphone real quick while in a checkout isle for example. I’ve debated on whether or not to keep this forum as-is or somehow transferring the database to a mobile friendly forum that can be logged in either by password or Facebook plugin on a smartphone. That would be a lot of work, cost a bunch of money, and require a lot of time to do it.

i, for one, hope you don’t change it. I don’t have a smartphone and have no desire to get one. Nor do I do Facebook or similar type social media. I like the ease and anonymity of a forum such as this. So, unless a person could still access the site via computer device, (without FB)….I would be out. :( However, I would understand the need to change……I just wouldn’t be part of it.

Yes, it is quiet now. I’ve noticed in the past that that is the trend in the summer and busy harvesting season. Traffic will pick up in a month or two when the growing season has come to an end.

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New Mexico Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Where is everyone?

August 29, 2017 angie_nrs 0
North Idaho Patriot wrote:
Everyone seems to be dispersed among the countless other social media sites, like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Blogger, Reddit, Snapchat, Etc… Most young people don’t seem to be interested in PHPBB forums anymore. The type of format we have here is not very conducive to the modern busy lifestyle of checking a smartphone real quick while in a checkout isle for example. I’ve debated on whether or not to keep this forum as-is or somehow transferring the database to a mobile friendly forum that can be logged in either by password or Facebook plugin on a smartphone. That would be a lot of work, cost a bunch of money, and require a lot of time to do it.

i, for one, hope you don’t change it. I don’t have a smartphone and have no desire to get one. Nor do I do Facebook or similar type social media. I like the ease and anonymity of a forum such as this. So, unless a person could still access the site via computer device, (without FB)….I would be out. :( However, I would understand the need to change……I just wouldn’t be part of it.

Yes, it is quiet now. I’ve noticed in the past that that is the trend in the summer and busy harvesting season. Traffic will pick up in a month or two when the growing season has come to an end.

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Medical Experts • Re: Benefits of Vinegar???

August 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0
anita wrote:
I don’t think that turmeric is ineffective without black pepper, just less effective (at least that’s a theory).

I don’t take much health info from Rachel Ray, as her cooking is about the antithesis of healthy. 🙂

You may be correct. I know absolutely nothing about it. It was actually RR’s guest that made the statement. I don’t know anything about RR, except that I don’t really like her much and I have absolutely no idea why. :evil: She is just one of those people that rub me the wrong way….like she’s always acting fake or something. I lose absolutely no sleep over it and would never watch the show.

Although, back to the ACV tabs…..for myself, I take it when my gut doesn’t feel quite right and it seems to help get me feeling better quicker.

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Medical Experts • Re: Benefits of Vinegar???

August 15, 2017 angie_nrs 0
anita wrote:
I don’t think that turmeric is ineffective without black pepper, just less effective (at least that’s a theory).

I don’t take much health info from Rachel Ray, as her cooking is about the antithesis of healthy. 🙂

You may be correct. I know absolutely nothing about it. It was actually RR’s guest that made the statement. I don’t know anything about RR, except that I don’t really like her much and I have absolutely no idea why. :evil: She is just one of those people that rub me the wrong way….like she’s always acting fake or something. I lose absolutely no sleep over it and would never watch the show.

Although, back to the ACV tabs…..for myself, I take it when my gut doesn’t feel quite right and it seems to help get me feeling better quicker.

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Medical Experts • Re: Benefits of Vinegar???

August 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0
ForwardPreppers wrote:
He does take turmeric, but he’s been taking that for about 3 years. It was recommended by a fellow prepper with diabetes. I’ll have to read up on the cinnamon. We have a lot stocked for all our oats.

Mrs FP

I heard on Rachael Ray last week that turmeric is only effective if taken along with pepper (black pepper I think). I have no idea whether or not that’s true. I do not watch RR or any other talk shows as they typically just drive me batty…..but I just saw this blip as I was walking by and the TV was left on. It was promptly turned off as I passed by. I don’t take turmeric so I was not interested, but this thread made me think of it. Just thought this might be helpful to you.

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Medical Experts • Re: Benefits of Vinegar???

August 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0
ForwardPreppers wrote:
He does take turmeric, but he’s been taking that for about 3 years. It was recommended by a fellow prepper with diabetes. I’ll have to read up on the cinnamon. We have a lot stocked for all our oats.

Mrs FP

I heard on Rachael Ray last week that turmeric is only effective if taken along with pepper (black pepper I think). I have no idea whether or not that’s true. I do not watch RR or any other talk shows as they typically just drive me batty…..but I just saw this blip as I was walking by and the TV was left on. It was promptly turned off as I passed by. I don’t take turmeric so I was not interested, but this thread made me think of it. Just thought this might be helpful to you.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: August 2017 – What Did YOU Do To Prep this Week/Month?

August 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Ordered some stuff online that was in my cart. Finally pulled the trigger on it as it’s been sitting in the cart for a while now….mostly books.

Added some TP, batteries, tinfoil, salt & pepper, tylenol, and other things to restock what we have used and to add a bit more to what we haven’t. Also added 10 gallons of water to the basement along with some other necessities should we need to shelter there for a few days for any reason. :whistling:

I’ve been reading up on nuclear attack and what to do in the event of one. I guess I’m a sheeple in this area since I really haven’t prepared for this scenario. I just thought I was toast in such an event, especially since I don’t have a bunker, but am finding it not to be the case if you can avoid fallout, which I think we could possibly do in our location. So, I’ve been moving some things to the basement and trying to put more thought into preparing for that type of scenario. :eek: You know, even though I feel like I am so much more prepared than most….I feel like a complete nubie with this. At least I don’t have to go and purchase a lot of stuff…..I just have to get it more concentrated in one place. Still, it’s a lot of planning and a lot of running up and down the stairs! Plus, I still have more learning/reading to do on the subject.

Here’s a link to the article that someone posted on another site that I found very interesting and really got me thinking in this direction:
http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm
I’m so glad it offered a PDF version…..I printed it off today and will add this to my library after I’m completely done reading it.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:38 pm


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: August 2017 – What Did YOU Do To Prep this Week/Month?

August 13, 2017 angie_nrs 0

Ordered some stuff online that was in my cart. Finally pulled the trigger on it as it’s been sitting in the cart for a while now….mostly books.

Added some TP, batteries, tinfoil, salt & pepper, tylenol, and other things to restock what we have used and to add a bit more to what we haven’t. Also added 10 gallons of water to the basement along with some other necessities should we need to shelter there for a few days for any reason. :whistling:

I’ve been reading up on nuclear attack and what to do in the event of one. I guess I’m a sheeple in this area since I really haven’t prepared for this scenario. I just thought I was toast in such an event, especially since I don’t have a bunker, but am finding it not to be the case if you can avoid fallout, which I think we could possibly do in our location. So, I’ve been moving some things to the basement and trying to put more thought into preparing for that type of scenario. :eek: You know, even though I feel like I am so much more prepared than most….I feel like a complete nubie with this. At least I don’t have to go and purchase a lot of stuff…..I just have to get it more concentrated in one place. Still, it’s a lot of planning and a lot of running up and down the stairs! Plus, I still have more learning/reading to do on the subject.

Here’s a link to the article that someone posted on another site that I found very interesting and really got me thinking in this direction:
http://www.ki4u.com/guide.htm
I’m so glad it offered a PDF version…..I printed it off today and will add this to my library after I’m completely done reading it.

Statistics: Posted by angie_nrs — Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:38 pm