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Georgia A.N.T.S. • Re: SALT and SUGAR

December 1, 2017 3ADScout 0

Here is a short YouTube video with a Revolutionary War perspective on salt. Back then salt was considered a military necessity due to its food preservation properties. The English put an embargo on it. Prices spiked. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8I…

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Georgia A.N.T.S. • Re: SALT and SUGAR

November 24, 2017 3ADScout 0

Both are so cheap right now plus no expiration date, there is no excuse not to have a few 5 gallon buckets full of each. (Okay maybe space). Personally I agree that we don’t need the sugar in our diet. Long term plan is to have a few bee hives at t…

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Natural Disasters • Re: Thoughts on these guys?

November 20, 2017 3ADScout 0

Risky for someone to depend upon a service like this for your survival. In many disasters officials put in an air space restriction as to not to interfere with public safety operations. But as the saying goes- a fool and their money . . .Statistics…

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A.N.T.S. • Re: How Will You Cope In a Long Term SHTF

November 1, 2017 3ADScout 0

I stock a lot of sewing supplies, including a good selection of canvas/upholstery needles. Also keep a good selection of leather supplies waxed thread, Chicago screws and tools. Keep a good stock of various types of leather. I got really lucky at a…

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Suggestions • Re: The Biggest Threat

October 29, 2017 3ADScout 0

daaswampman wrote:I am not a believer in the "Golden Hoard" myth.If you look at shelter usage (Red Cross statistics) about only 5% of the impacted population will use a public shelter. Why does this matter to preppers? Well ask yourself wh…

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Arizona Discussion, News, and Weather • Re: Influenza

October 11, 2017 3ADScout 0

Hope it isn’t a bad flu season in the US, the is an IV shortage (some solutions) due to quality control issue in a plant that the FDA inspected, plus from what I understand another plant was in Puerto Rico and is shut down. The demand is also increas…

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Guns • Re: What the 2nd Amendment means

September 28, 2017 3ADScout 0

There is some great case law on this including several recent cases. One of the Supreame Courts best arguments that the second amendement is an “individual” right is that if the court would interpret “the people” in the second amendment to mean the state then “the people” in the first, 9th and 10th would also mean “the state”. They clearly do not, hence the Supreame court has ruled that “the people” is just that “the people” not the state.

There are several good books on the history of the “militia”. Back in the day merchant ships purchased cannons to protect there ships. When one looks at the “militia Act of 1792” it is very clear that citizens were expected to be armed with a suitable weapon of the day. If the arguement is that an AR 15 couldn’t be foreseen by the founders and thus can be rugulated then the same could be argued for computers.

Several years back I was lucky enough to purchase a training manual for the militia (early 1900’s) There were 3 militia camps- Red, White and Blue. One color was for enlisted, one for NCOs and the other for Officers. Very organized.

Sad that we went from a nation at revered our arms to a nation that in many places cowers in fear at the mere sight of a child making a “gun” with his hands/fingers. So sad.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 27, 2017 3ADScout 0

http://www.businessinsider.com/likely-u … ets-2017-5

The idea of a nuclear total war does lead to M.A.D., what is scarey is that it appears that the concept of a total war using nuclear weapons isn’t the strategy anymore but a more limited attack on the others nuclear weapons and command and control is the current flavor of the week. When someone with nuclear weapons starts to believe they can win that becomes dangerous, hence why the Cold War was such an arms race.

The question becomes what if one side uses a strategy of limited nuclear war and the other side uses the older total war model and nukes a few large cities? Will the other side respond in kind? I will say that I believe some of the left wing pro soviet communist groups in the west perpetrated the nuclear target maps that included just about everywhere in the US. (Where was the concern of the Democratic Party with Russian influence then??). I can believe that New York isn’t on a first strike target list but to believe/think it isn’t on any list is a fairytale. In short look at a lot of those maps, compare and contrast- make you own conclusions

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 26, 2017 3ADScout 0

Just keep in mind that “fallout shelters” where just that areas to provide protection from radiation post attack, not to be confused with blast shelter that are designed to protect from the actual explosion. Considering that an average size nuclear weapon (Russian) is around 10 megaton not a lot of those fallout shelters in heavily populated would not survive the blast.

This is important to realize since you first have to survive the blast before you need to survive the fallout (depending where you live of course). If you live in any type of populated area or around some type of strategic target surviving the blast, and heat will be the hardest part. Thinking you can hide out in you basement then bug out is not going to happen. Our BOL is outside the blast area of a secondary nuclear target (city of 100K) I’ve been thinking about what to do to for fallout protection in the BOL. My basic plan is to lay down tarps and plastic sheeting on the 1st floor floors, then place dirt/sand/rock over the area where we will be in the basement. The only concern I have is IF the structure is taken in a blast (the guidance system can be off) the fallout would be stronger than I’m anticipating – the floor should stay in place.

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Virginia Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Prepping Fatigue?

September 24, 2017 3ADScout 0

“Prepping” is one person’s definition/vision of prepping and being prepared the same as everyone else’s? So i have friends that think having a BOB with 3 days of stuff (mostly made in China) is being prepared. IMHO that is just prepping to live 3 days longer than a non-Prepper. I have always view prepping (survivalism back in the day), as a life style. As I have gotten older and income/resources have changed we have been able to up our game. As Angie_nrs said – slow and steady wins the race. Is prepping a fad? For some I’m sure it is; person who watches the Walking Dead and buys a machete and the 3 day BOB with junk in it is Definately in this category or else very delusional as to what is needed to survive all the various calamities that could befall us. Then you have the west coast earthquake preppers and the east coast hurricane preppers- okay they can survival 2 weeks longer than the non-Prepper. The way I see it if you aren’t making preps that allow you to renew and re-supply yourself with food, water, heat, etc then your survival time will be limited, not that having a re-supply capability is a guarantee of survival longer but when you run out of water your life is down to a few days. Those who think re-supply will be done via scavenging runs like on the walking dead etc are going to be sorely mistaken. Let’s take the walking dead situation- okay how many resources/calories are they expending to get a can of spam? I love it when they find a warehouse full of food 3 years after the apocalypse, like the people who worked there and there families didn’t know there was food there? Like the neighbors who had to resorts to scavenging/looting on day 3 of the disaster did look there? Come on folks.

Do I slow or speed up prepping based on current events- why yes I do!!! That is just smart!!!
If Kim un fat kid is tossing about ICBMs and setting of nukes and I got an extra $30 in my pocket do I pick up a 50 pound bag of rice and a box of red dried beans yep. If the world situation is “okay” then I save that $30 to look for deals at the flea market or clearance sections at the stores I shop. Just my two cents

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Virginia Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Prepping Fatigue?

September 24, 2017 3ADScout 0

“Prepping” is one person’s definition/vision of prepping and being prepared the same as everyone else’s? So i have friends that think having a BOB with 3 days of stuff (mostly made in China) is being prepared. IMHO that is just prepping to live 3 days longer than a non-Prepper. I have always view prepping (survivalism back in the day), as a life style. As I have gotten older and income/resources have changed we have been able to up our game. As Angie_nrs said – slow and steady wins the race. Is prepping a fad? For some I’m sure it is; person who watches the Walking Dead and buys a machete and the 3 day BOB with junk in it is Definately in this category or else very delusional as to what is needed to survive all the various calamities that could befall us. Then you have the west coast earthquake preppers and the east coast hurricane preppers- okay they can survival 2 weeks longer than the non-Prepper. The way I see it if you aren’t making preps that allow you to renew and re-supply yourself with food, water, heat, etc then your survival time will be limited, not that having a re-supply capability is a guarantee of survival longer but when you run out of water your life is down to a few days. Those who think re-supply will be done via scavenging runs like on the walking dead etc are going to be sorely mistaken. Let’s take the walking dead situation- okay how many resources/calories are they expending to get a can of spam? I love it when they find a warehouse full of food 3 years after the apocalypse, like the people who worked there and there families didn’t know there was food there? Like the neighbors who had to resorts to scavenging/looting on day 3 of the disaster did look there? Come on folks.

Do I slow or speed up prepping based on current events- why yes I do!!! That is just smart!!!
If Kim un fat kid is tossing about ICBMs and setting of nukes and I got an extra $30 in my pocket do I pick up a 50 pound bag of rice and a box of red dried beans yep. If the world situation is “okay” then I save that $30 to look for deals at the flea market or clearance sections at the stores I shop. Just my two cents

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 23, 2017 3ADScout 0

Picked up a pump for a 5 gallon Water bottle, 2 silicon pot/pan handle protectors by Lodge, 100 rounds of 12ga #4 shot, picked up a roll of heavy duty Velcro on clearance at Home Depot for $6.32 (was $32), printed off information on radioactive fallout decay rates, radiation dose limits/effects, unit symbols and conversions and forms to record dosimeter readings for each person/dosimeter, radiological survey and Decon forms. Picked up the “Life as we knew it” series.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 19, 2017 3ADScout 0

Personally I have always used military ammo cans, that is until Geo-caching jump the price from $5-$8 to $10-$15 If you can even find them. Did buy a few of the plastic Plano cans for shotgun shells. I also think a variable to consider is what was in the buckets if used. I would be concerned with any acidic residue from anything in a vinegar solution or residue from petroleum products.

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Guns • Re: Need advice on storing ammo

September 19, 2017 3ADScout 0
ReadyMom wrote:
I store my ammo in the pretty floral photo storage boxes you buy in the craft store! I figure no one is going to think that’s what I’ve got in there :ninja: .

That is funny!!

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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 17, 2017 3ADScout 0

I believe we get mis-information from a variety of sources on food storage.
Many articles/manufacturer specs talk about storage being good up to 2 years but as you just witnessed the milk was fine. So what is the issue? Just like on our regular shelf food with “best by” dates the food doesn’t magically go rancid at midnight. It is simply a date that the manufacture uses to guarantee (in most cases) taste. The other issue with food storage is the nutritional value, so perhaps the milk didn’t provide you family with 100% of the USDA recommended vitimin D perhaps you only got 95%. Is that really an issue? Not for me and probably not for 99.9999% of the people on here (including you Kilo).

I remember as a kid playing in my great grand parents basement and looking at all the canned food that Great Grandma had worked so hard canning. Rusted bands and congealed fat made me think “I wouldn’t eat that!” But I did, best darn beef tips and noodles I ever had!!

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General Food Topics • Re: Six year-old powdered milk!

September 17, 2017 3ADScout 0

I believe we get mis-information from a variety of sources on food storage.
Many articles/manufacturer specs talk about storage being good up to 2 years but as you just witnessed the milk was fine. So what is the issue? Just like on our regular shelf food with “best by” dates the food doesn’t magically go rancid at midnight. It is simply a date that the manufacture uses to guarantee (in most cases) taste. The other issue with food storage is the nutritional value, so perhaps the milk didn’t provide you family with 100% of the USDA recommended vitimin D perhaps you only got 95%. Is that really an issue? Not for me and probably not for 99.9999% of the people on here (including you Kilo).

I remember as a kid playing in my great grand parents basement and looking at all the canned food that Great Grandma had worked so hard canning. Rusted bands and congealed fat made me think “I wouldn’t eat that!” But I did, best darn beef tips and noodles I ever had!!

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 8, 2017 3ADScout 0

Retrieved a box that had been stored at my parents house for several years. Contained a radiation meter (military model) 2 Israeli children gas mask, 1 Israeli military gas mask, 3 extra filters, numerous pairs of military butyl rubber gloves (NBC type), and a few other goodies. All going out to BOL. Picked up 2 military 15 round M-1 carbine magazines (still in wrapper), 2 magazines for my trusty and loyal Ruger SR22, picked up some flex seal tape, and met with a build to get a quote for a new 24’x40′ pole barn. Watching all the doom and gloom in the world- historic hurricanes, powerful earthquake in Mexico, the most tense potential nuclear stand off since the Cuban missile crises, big Geomagnetic storm and the list goes on. Not slowing down prepping here.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 8, 2017 3ADScout 0

Retrieved a box that had been stored at my parents house for several years. Contained a radiation meter (military model) 2 Israeli children gas mask, 1 Israeli military gas mask, 3 extra filters, numerous pairs of military butyl rubber gloves (NBC type), and a few other goodies. All going out to BOL. Picked up 2 military 15 round M-1 carbine magazines (still in wrapper), 2 magazines for my trusty and loyal Ruger SR22, picked up some flex seal tape, and met with a build to get a quote for a new 24’x40′ pole barn. Watching all the doom and gloom in the world- historic hurricanes, powerful earthquake in Mexico, the most tense potential nuclear stand off since the Cuban missile crises, big Geomagnetic storm and the list goes on. Not slowing down prepping here.

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 8, 2017 3ADScout 0

Retrieved a box that had been stored at my parents house for several years. Contained a radiation meter (military model) 2 Israeli children gas mask, 1 Israeli military gas mask, 3 extra filters, numerous pairs of military butyl rubber gloves (NBC type), and a few other goodies. All going out to BOL. Picked up 2 military 15 round M-1 carbine magazines (still in wrapper), 2 magazines for my trusty and loyal Ruger SR22, picked up some flex seal tape, and met with a build to get a quote for a new 24’x40′ pole barn. Watching all the doom and gloom in the world- historic hurricanes, powerful earthquake in Mexico, the most tense potential nuclear stand off since the Cuban missile crises, big Geomagnetic storm and the list goes on. Not slowing down prepping here.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0
angie_nrs wrote:
I think maybe that’s why I haven’t pulled the trigger on putting these in my preps. Although if someone wanted in and had tear gas bombs then these would sure come in handy. However, I think that scenario is likely pretty far fetched. I guess I always thought that my money could be spent more wisely in other areas. Still…..

I found this and am considering it….tell me what you think.
https://www.safecastle.com/products/ven … 6995950209

I agree with you both in that buying from surplus probably isn’t the best idea. I had the privilege of using a military gas mask and being in a room of tear gas. Yeah, that was fun. Nobody’s mask worked! I’m pretty sure that was intentional……what a slimy mess of an aftermath. Anyone who has gone thru that knows exactly what I mean. :drool:

Just so you know that mask is made in India. I checked eBay and there are a number of MSA Millenium mask. Don’t know what happened but that mask is being listed at $400 and more. Years ago they didn’t cost that.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0
angie_nrs wrote:
I think maybe that’s why I haven’t pulled the trigger on putting these in my preps. Although if someone wanted in and had tear gas bombs then these would sure come in handy. However, I think that scenario is likely pretty far fetched. I guess I always thought that my money could be spent more wisely in other areas. Still…..

I found this and am considering it….tell me what you think.
https://www.safecastle.com/products/ven … 6995950209

I agree with you both in that buying from surplus probably isn’t the best idea. I had the privilege of using a military gas mask and being in a room of tear gas. Yeah, that was fun. Nobody’s mask worked! I’m pretty sure that was intentional……what a slimy mess of an aftermath. Anyone who has gone thru that knows exactly what I mean. :drool:

Just so you know that mask is made in India. I checked eBay and there are a number of MSA Millenium mask. Don’t know what happened but that mask is being listed at $400 and more. Years ago they didn’t cost that.

Statistics: Posted by 3ADScout — Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:26 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0

Angie_nrs-

Generally speaking military gas mask protect against chemical, biological and nuclear “agent”. For some of these “agents” a gas mask is an N100 mask on steroids since it also protects the mucus membranes. Which chemical there considerations to think about are that even if you have a mask many chemical can be absorbed through the skin, so some type of protective garment is needed. The second and probably the biggest concern is a gas mask will not protect you in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. Many Toxic Industrial Chemicals (TICs) displace the oxygen in the area. The other issues to consider is how will you know when to use it? And how will you decontaminate your mask, and self? You can’t wear it for ever. For radiation a gas mask is just capturing the radioactive particles (fallout) but will not stop the penetrating rays of Beta and gamma radiation. For radiation incidents a suit helps to keep the radiation off the skin and out of hair so that decon is much simpler if needed at all. Again how are you going to detect the presences of harmful radiation? Decon?

De very careful of surplus in that we had mask at work and they hardly ever get used. They were purchased about 10 years ago and when we recently had “fit testing” they all failed. We believe this is due to the material being old and starting to break down. Scary thing is the mask looks brand new!! I can only imagine what you might get with a surplus mask.

Besides military surplus you might want to look at something from and industrial safety supply house. They will take your cash. Since 9-11 there are “civilian” (as in non-military) WMD mask and Mask filters. The one that comes to mind is the Milenium Mask by MSA. Probably about $135 and about $50 for a WMD filter- NOTE the mask usually comes with a filter for Tear gas only!!! The Milenium mask is a beefed up version of MSA’s “Advantage” mask. I would stay away from this mask as when we used them at work during our trials for purchasing a mask everyone kept knocking the filter off. The Advantage mask uses a “bayonet” filter connection system where as the advantage uses a screw in 40mm mask system. I would stay away from anything with a bayonet connection.

Not trying to talk you out of surplus or into an industrial. I have both in my preps. Look on the internet about hasty decon for chemical biological and nuclear they are not all the same.

Good luck

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0

Angie_nrs-

Generally speaking military gas mask protect against chemical, biological and nuclear “agent”. For some of these “agents” a gas mask is an N100 mask on steroids since it also protects the mucus membranes. Which chemical there considerations to think about are that even if you have a mask many chemical can be absorbed through the skin, so some type of protective garment is needed. The second and probably the biggest concern is a gas mask will not protect you in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. Many Toxic Industrial Chemicals (TICs) displace the oxygen in the area. The other issues to consider is how will you know when to use it? And how will you decontaminate your mask, and self? You can’t wear it for ever. For radiation a gas mask is just capturing the radioactive particles (fallout) but will not stop the penetrating rays of Beta and gamma radiation. For radiation incidents a suit helps to keep the radiation off the skin and out of hair so that decon is much simpler if needed at all. Again how are you going to detect the presences of harmful radiation? Decon?

De very careful of surplus in that we had mask at work and they hardly ever get used. They were purchased about 10 years ago and when we recently had “fit testing” they all failed. We believe this is due to the material being old and starting to break down. Scary thing is the mask looks brand new!! I can only imagine what you might get with a surplus mask.

Besides military surplus you might want to look at something from and industrial safety supply house. They will take your cash. Since 9-11 there are “civilian” (as in non-military) WMD mask and Mask filters. The one that comes to mind is the Milenium Mask by MSA. Probably about $135 and about $50 for a WMD filter- NOTE the mask usually comes with a filter for Tear gas only!!! The Milenium mask is a beefed up version of MSA’s “Advantage” mask. I would stay away from this mask as when we used them at work during our trials for purchasing a mask everyone kept knocking the filter off. The Advantage mask uses a “bayonet” filter connection system where as the advantage uses a screw in 40mm mask system. I would stay away from anything with a bayonet connection.

Not trying to talk you out of surplus or into an industrial. I have both in my preps. Look on the internet about hasty decon for chemical biological and nuclear they are not all the same.

Good luck

Statistics: Posted by 3ADScout — Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:19 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0

Angie_nrs-

Generally speaking military gas mask protect against chemical, biological and nuclear “agent”. For some of these “agents” a gas mask is an N100 mask on steroids since it also protects the mucus membranes. Which chemical there considerations to think about are that even if you have a mask many chemical can be absorbed through the skin, so some type of protective garment is needed. The second and probably the biggest concern is a gas mask will not protect you in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. Many Toxic Industrial Chemicals (TICs) displace the oxygen in the area. The other issues to consider is how will you know when to use it? And how will you decontaminate your mask, and self? You can’t wear it for ever. For radiation a gas mask is just capturing the radioactive particles (fallout) but will not stop the penetrating rays of Beta and gamma radiation. For radiation incidents a suit helps to keep the radiation off the skin and out of hair so that decon is much simpler if needed at all. Again how are you going to detect the presences of harmful radiation? Decon?

De very careful of surplus in that we had mask at work and they hardly ever get used. They were purchased about 10 years ago and when we recently had “fit testing” they all failed. We believe this is due to the material being old and starting to break down. Scary thing is the mask looks brand new!! I can only imagine what you might get with a surplus mask.

Besides military surplus you might want to look at something from and industrial safety supply house. They will take your cash. Since 9-11 there are “civilian” (as in non-military) WMD mask and Mask filters. The one that comes to mind is the Milenium Mask by MSA. Probably about $135 and about $50 for a WMD filter- NOTE the mask usually comes with a filter for Tear gas only!!! The Milenium mask is a beefed up version of MSA’s “Advantage” mask. I would stay away from this mask as when we used them at work during our trials for purchasing a mask everyone kept knocking the filter off. The Advantage mask uses a “bayonet” filter connection system where as the advantage uses a screw in 40mm mask system. I would stay away from anything with a bayonet connection.

Not trying to talk you out of surplus or into an industrial. I have both in my preps. Look on the internet about hasty decon for chemical biological and nuclear they are not all the same.

Good luck

Statistics: Posted by 3ADScout — Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:19 pm


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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Gas Mask questions

September 5, 2017 3ADScout 0

Angie_nrs-

Generally speaking military gas mask protect against chemical, biological and nuclear “agent”. For some of these “agents” a gas mask is an N100 mask on steroids since it also protects the mucus membranes. Which chemical there considerations to think about are that even if you have a mask many chemical can be absorbed through the skin, so some type of protective garment is needed. The second and probably the biggest concern is a gas mask will not protect you in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. Many Toxic Industrial Chemicals (TICs) displace the oxygen in the area. The other issues to consider is how will you know when to use it? And how will you decontaminate your mask, and self? You can’t wear it for ever. For radiation a gas mask is just capturing the radioactive particles (fallout) but will not stop the penetrating rays of Beta and gamma radiation. For radiation incidents a suit helps to keep the radiation off the skin and out of hair so that decon is much simpler if needed at all. Again how are you going to detect the presences of harmful radiation? Decon?

De very careful of surplus in that we had mask at work and they hardly ever get used. They were purchased about 10 years ago and when we recently had “fit testing” they all failed. We believe this is due to the material being old and starting to break down. Scary thing is the mask looks brand new!! I can only imagine what you might get with a surplus mask.

Besides military surplus you might want to look at something from and industrial safety supply house. They will take your cash. Since 9-11 there are “civilian” (as in non-military) WMD mask and Mask filters. The one that comes to mind is the Milenium Mask by MSA. Probably about $135 and about $50 for a WMD filter- NOTE the mask usually comes with a filter for Tear gas only!!! The Milenium mask is a beefed up version of MSA’s “Advantage” mask. I would stay away from this mask as when we used them at work during our trials for purchasing a mask everyone kept knocking the filter off. The Advantage mask uses a “bayonet” filter connection system where as the advantage uses a screw in 40mm mask system. I would stay away from anything with a bayonet connection.

Not trying to talk you out of surplus or into an industrial. I have both in my preps. Look on the internet about hasty decon for chemical biological and nuclear they are not all the same.

Good luck

Statistics: Posted by 3ADScout — Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:19 pm


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General Family Preparedness • Re: Prep Concerns for Korean ‘Conflict’

September 4, 2017 3ADScout 0
Illini Warrior wrote:
evac orders for the US military dependents will be the key – the US will be taking action SOON .

Agree 100% with the caveat that that that would telegraph US intentions. So if a “surprise” is need to take out the key leadership an evacuation would ruin that and send the leadership into hiding.

Statistics: Posted by 3ADScout — Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:03 pm