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Introduce Yourself • Sort newbie from SW NH

September 30, 2017 Balamban 0

I was sure that there would be an economic break-down in short order so I bought 100lbs of hard red winter wheat from a farmer who grew it himself in VT. I put it into those silver bags that one buys from LDS (Latter Day Saints) with O2 absorbers. That was 2008, and there was an economic break-down we recovered. But it still amazes me too heft one of those bags of wheat, as rock solid as it was 9 years ago. Today I wonder, will it be Kim’s nuclear device, a meteor strike, the super-volcano (you may choose which one, be it Yellowstone, or one of the others that simmer) or an exponentially more significant economic melt-down. I was thinking though, man could live by wheat alone…(for quite a while even if incomplete as far as proteins go) but ugh, so I’ve bought 100lbs of Jasmine rice to pack into the correct bags. Beans, beans, you need beans, I hear. Then I started wondering. Electricity will fail, and just how will I cook those beans, especially if my vintage radiation detection devices say that we must stay deep in the cellar for a month or three. Hmm…a month or three, will I have enough time to drag down a mattress? And it will be dark and bleak, hmm…I have a brand new 12v car battery on a battery tender, maybe I can buy a 12v light and a 12 photo-voltaic array to charge it. Boredom will be an issue, now I’ve a 5T drive with plenty of 720 and 1040 videos, but I suspect that my computer would not last long on that car battery, so I wonder what is the most “electronically miserly” laptop so at least we can be entertained until that day comes when we get to leave to see all the dead folk that never prepared. All this is giving me a headache. Remind me to pack some Tylenol please. At any rate….hi!

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Introduce Yourself • Sort newbie from SW NH

September 30, 2017 Balamban 0

I was sure that there would be an economic break-down in short order so I bought 100lbs of hard red winter wheat from a farmer who grew it himself in VT. I put it into those silver bags that one buys from LDS (Latter Day Saints) with O2 absorbers. That was 2008, and there was an economic break-down we recovered. But it still amazes me too heft one of those bags of wheat, as rock solid as it was 9 years ago. Today I wonder, will it be Kim’s nuclear device, a meteor strike, the super-volcano (you may choose which one, be it Yellowstone, or one of the others that simmer) or an exponentially more significant economic melt-down. I was thinking though, man could live by wheat alone…(for quite a while even if incomplete as far as proteins go) but ugh, so I’ve bought 100lbs of Jasmine rice to pack into the correct bags. Beans, beans, you need beans, I hear. Then I started wondering. Electricity will fail, and just how will I cook those beans, especially if my vintage radiation detection devices say that we must stay deep in the cellar for a month or three. Hmm…a month or three, will I have enough time to drag down a mattress? And it will be dark and bleak, hmm…I have a brand new 12v car battery on a battery tender, maybe I can buy a 12v light and a 12 photo-voltaic array to charge it. Boredom will be an issue, now I’ve a 5T drive with plenty of 720 and 1040 videos, but I suspect that my computer would not last long on that car battery, so I wonder what is the most “electronically miserly” laptop so at least we can be entertained until that day comes when we get to leave to see all the dead folk that never prepared. All this is giving me a headache. Remind me to pack some Tylenol please. At any rate….hi!

Statistics: Posted by Balamban — Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:30 pm


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General Homesteading Topics • Re: Storeing Oil / Lard

September 30, 2017 farmer_dude48 0

I have a question about storing Lard. I bought a different brand of lard and I noticed on the label it said Hydrogenated Lard and it also has a use by date. The other brand of Lard we use doesn’t have either. Can somebody tell me what the difference would ? :?

Thanks

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Check In Here Mississippi Preppers • Re: New Grenada County Prepper

September 30, 2017 Fullmoon 0

Depends on what kind of food is in those cans. Tomato sauce and tomato’s which have a natural high acid level will go bad first. Most canned goods have a “use before this date” stamped on the bottom of the can but the contents are good long after that date. I have used canned goods 5 years beyond the stamped date with no issues. They had been stored in a cool dry area up off the floor and out of direct sunlight. Best bet is to smell the contents of old cans, the nose knows, and look for discoloration of contents. You may also purchase long term storage canned goods which have a shelf life of 25 years. Places like Wall Mart sell these items as well as many on line outlets.

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 handyman777 0
Permafrost wrote:

handyman777 wrote:Are you ever really “off the grid” ? ? ?

You still have to pay tax’s.

Some places have no property taxes, and if your income is low enough you pay no federal income tax. So yes you can be free, but most will not like the lifestyle they must live to achieve it. I know a few folks who fit in this group, they might get $3000 to $5000 a year trapping and that is their only income. It is not a bad life, if you don’t mind burning rendered bear fat in lamps for your only light all winter long when it’s dark 20 or more hours a day.

I myself am “off grid” at my cabin that I am at about 1/3 to 1/2 the year. The other part of the year I am in town working & living with my family. The only things I have that are electric out there are a solar panel for a 12v freezer, and a 2000W generator for the food-saver & meat grinder. One of these days I want to put in some 12v LED lights, because it is really dark in the winter and I miss the light.

Way too COOL Permafrost—A lifestyle that some people only dream about. 8)

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 handyman777 0
Permafrost wrote:

handyman777 wrote:Are you ever really “off the grid” ? ? ?

You still have to pay tax’s.

Some places have no property taxes, and if your income is low enough you pay no federal income tax. So yes you can be free, but most will not like the lifestyle they must live to achieve it. I know a few folks who fit in this group, they might get $3000 to $5000 a year trapping and that is their only income. It is not a bad life, if you don’t mind burning rendered bear fat in lamps for your only light all winter long when it’s dark 20 or more hours a day.

I myself am “off grid” at my cabin that I am at about 1/3 to 1/2 the year. The other part of the year I am in town working & living with my family. The only things I have that are electric out there are a solar panel for a 12v freezer, and a 2000W generator for the food-saver & meat grinder. One of these days I want to put in some 12v LED lights, because it is really dark in the winter and I miss the light.

Way too COOL Permafrost—A lifestyle that some people only dream about. 8)

Statistics: Posted by handyman777 — Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:02 am


Be Ready! 4 Emergency Preparedness Steps Homeowners Should Take

September 30, 2017 Hannah Whittenly 0

Preparing yourself for an emergency is especially important if you’re a homeowner. By taking the necessary steps to prepare yourself, you’ll be able to handle things better and get your life back on track more quickly following the disaster. Here are four ways to prepare yourself for an emergency situation. Protect Your Important Documents All […]

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 RockinB 0
Saxon Violence wrote:
Friends,

Maybe there is another term for what I mean, but to me “Off-Grid” means that you’re willing to live without electricity for the most part. Is there another word for this concept?

Saxon Violence

Fronteir living, Pioneer living or lifestyles would be zero power and zero a bunch of other advanced society stuff too. Off Grid generally refers to either the power grid or the people grid. The term “out of the system” is also floated around for those that refuse to be labelled “consumers”, “serfs” or “wards of the state” scratching out a living by working their butts off their entire lives at mundane jobs, trying to raise a family and never getting ahead. Very easy to get trapped in the consumerist system since most Americans are in it already with no chance of escape.

That’s my opinion and i’m sticking to it!

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 RockinB 0
Saxon Violence wrote:
Friends,

Maybe there is another term for what I mean, but to me “Off-Grid” means that you’re willing to live without electricity for the most part. Is there another word for this concept?

Saxon Violence

Fronteir living, Pioneer living or lifestyles would be zero power and zero a bunch of other advanced society stuff too. Off Grid generally refers to either the power grid or the people grid. The term “out of the system” is also floated around for those that refuse to be labelled “consumers”, “serfs” or “wards of the state” scratching out a living by working their butts off their entire lives at mundane jobs, trying to raise a family and never getting ahead. Very easy to get trapped in the consumerist system since most Americans are in it already with no chance of escape.

That’s my opinion and i’m sticking to it!

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Guns • Re: What the 2nd Amendment means

September 30, 2017 RockinB 0

This “militia recognition statement” derived from George Mason’s Virginia writings, is the only sentence written by Madison in the Bill of Rights that is not actionable, strongly worded, prohibiting, limiting or enforceable. The only one. Madison was against this Bill of Rights because he believed it was a poor protection of Liberty. The People of the States demanded it. Without George Mason’s support, the Bill of Rights might not exist.

The Debate was between Virginia’s well regulated militia, Pennsylvannia’s Individual right to bear arms, and the Massaschusetts model circa 1791 which was specifically rejected by the First Congress.

Now we are down to two models being debated.
1) Virginia’s well Regulated Militia / George Mason – Harringtonian model.
2) Pennsylvannia’s Radical Individual Right to Arms / Jeffersonian suffrage model.

I’m sure most of us can figure out which model Madison pointed towards just by reading the enforceable portion of the 2nd Amendment.

Why any thinking human can read the Bill of Rights and key off of the only sentence written in it that is not actionable, not strongly worded, not prohibiting, not limiting and not enforceable somehow becomes the entire actionable meaning and intent of the founders is absurd.

Happy Saturday Armed Preppers!

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 Permafrost 0
handyman777 wrote:
Are you ever really “off the grid” ? ? ?

You still have to pay tax’s.

Some places have no property taxes, and if your income is low enough you pay no federal income tax. So yes you can be free, but most will not like the lifestyle they must live to achieve it. I know a few folks who fit in this group, they might get $3000 to $5000 a year trapping and that is their only income. It is not a bad life, if you don’t mind burning rendered bear fat in lamps for your only light all winter long when it’s dark 20 or more hours a day.

I myself am “off grid” at my cabin that I am at about 1/3 to 1/2 the year. The other part of the year I am in town working & living with my family. The only things I have that are electric out there are a solar panel for a 12v freezer, and a 2000W generator for the food-saver & meat grinder. One of these days I want to put in some 12v LED lights, because it is really dark in the winter and I miss the light.

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BOL’s and Retreats • Re: You Have Just Finished a Remote BOL…

September 30, 2017 Permafrost 0
Saxon Violence wrote:
Just for the sake of argument—lets suppose that you have a rather remote cabin built somewhere and that you can’t drive any closer than 10 to 20-Miles from your cabin. You’ve stocked your cabin with all of the standard stuff. Given the difficulty of transporting stuff to your cabin, you have to be a bit selective as to exactly what you carry in.

My cabin is over 200 river miles from the nearest road, over 100 miles by snowmachine in the winter. To say that it is difficult to transport things is a understatement. Not only is there weight and space restrictions, but you also have a large amount of breakage. If I need fragile things like globes for my oil lamps or glass jars I need to figure on hauling out double what I need because they will break in transit. Even plastic buckets filled with rice will shatter in the cold if I haul them out there during the winter on a freight sled behind a snowmachine.

When it comes down to it, you need it all to make it in the wilderness for any length of time. If you have it in town and use it to fix or build anything, you will need it or the non-power equivalent of it at your homestead. Add to this everything that is needed too keep it all working, like grease or oil or screws or nails or spare parts or a simple needle & thread. If you sub out dogs or horses for a petroleum powered motor (ATV or snowmachine) you need not only food for them but also meds if they get sick or hurt. Then there are the hidden items like blue board foam insulation that is used for outhouse seats in the winter so your skin does not freeze to the seat, the squirrels love to chew on the stuff so you can count on going through at least a sheet a year. Then you have bear damage, and you either need to be able to make your own lumber to do repairs or have a stockpile of store-bought stuff to fix what gets chewed or clawed on. Then you have personal medical needs, everything from pain meds to suture kits to tree loppers for frostbitten fingers & toes to splints & slings to all the regular meds a person might need for chronic conditions like blood pressure.

I don’t have some of the other stuff you mentioned. No posters or paintings. No books other than a few fiction books that I pick up for free wherever I can get them when I’m in town, when they get stale they are good toilet paper or fire starter. No curtains, it is dark all winter and I will take all the light I can get.

As a general rule, if it goes out there it does not come back. Get quality stuff, because repairs are a pain if you have to charter a plane to drop you parts. If you need a few bolts or a pound of nails, get 10 times what you need because going back to the store is not really a option and they will eventually get used up.

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Dealing with the elderly and the disabled

September 30, 2017 gman 0

Dealing with the elderly and the disabled Micheal Kline “Reality Check” Audio player below! In this show EK is back to discuss the elderly and the disabled members of your group and why they are a vital component. Many preppers out there have the mindset that the weak, old, or infirmed are going to have to … Continue reading Dealing with the elderly and the disabled

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New Members, Welcome to our forum!

September 30, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome!

A good place to start is in the “How to Start Prepping (The Basics) section http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewforum.php?f=616

There is a lot of good information there. Then, check out the different sections. If you don’t find what you’re looking for, ASK! There are many knowledgeable people here who can provide you with information.

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Check In Here Mississippi Preppers • Re: New Grenada County Prepper

September 30, 2017 IceFire 0

Welcome, Doc, and thank you for your service!

There are lots of fellow veterans on this site! A good place to start is by building your food and water supply. You do NOT need to go out and buy a bunch of ’emergency” food. Buy what you normally eat…just buy extra! One thing I like to do with canned goods, is to look at the “best by” date (and no, the food does NOT need to be destroyed if it is past that date!) and write it on the can (so it is easily visible) and then put the cans into a rotation system based on the date.

Also, check out the “How to Start Prepping (The Basics) section http://www.americanpreppersnetwork.net/viewforum.php?f=616 for more suggestions.

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General Energy Discussion • Re: Off Grid? Really?

September 30, 2017 Matte 0

Off-grid here, or at least from the standpoint that we have no public utility services. Private well, private septic, solar electric power with generator backup. A land-line phone, sat internet, and DirecTV are our links to the outside world. I suppose we’re not off-grid by your definition, in fact as I type this I’m listening to a semi-loud cooling fan running on our ten year old Xantrex inverter/charger in the background – 3 mostly cloudy days in a row drained our batteries to the point that it started our propane generator to recharge them. Not really a problem, in fact we use this time to do the laundry, run the dishwasher, vacuum the carpeted areas, fill the empty toilet flush buckets, and fire up the computer I’m using now. All the electricity I want for about 4 hours, as long as I keep it under the 4kw limit of the inverter at any given time lol. Later we may even make some microwave popcorn and watch half a movie before falling asleep with the TV on, those are kind of special treat things for us when the generator is running.

No goats, chickens, or other livestock. Our garden is modest in the extreme and we don’t home can food. When the primary propane tank runs low 2-3 times a year, I call for a fill up. We’re not self-sufficient, just semi self-reliant for maybe up to a year with stored beans, bullets, and bandaids. We’re good with that, it’d be difficult to keep more than that amount of everything in rotation before it spoiled anyway. Not that we chose this lifestyle solely from a strict prepper/survival perspective, it’s just how we choose to live and we enjoy it.

Suppose I’m really not sure what you’re asking, and those that might meet your definition of off-grid likely wouldn’t have enough excess power to waste posting a response in an internet forum anyway. But whatever you define “off-grid” as, just do it if it appeals to you and find your own sweet spot would be my suggestion.

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Introduce Yourself • Re: Golden Harvest Canning jars and lids

September 30, 2017 ripshinmtn 0

UPDATE ON GOLDEN HARVEST CANNING JARS AND LIDS.

I just purchased 120 canning jars from a lady and there was some Golden Harvest Jars in the lot. I asked her if she ever had any issues with the Golden Harvest Jars and lids. She replied “NEVER”. “I have used them for years and never one problem. My opinion is folks are not using common sense and preventing thermal shock, proper space under the lids, and proper lid tightness.” This lady has always purchased her vegetables But now the cost of the vegetables has increased so much she has quit canning.

Is anyone else having problems with unreasonable prices on vegetables.

Well I guess that about says it all.

ripshinmtn

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BOL’s and Retreats • Re: You Have Just Finished a Remote BOL…

September 30, 2017 Cin 0

The three things needed to survive:

Water: Bring in plastic water tanks in cages…just because you never know if the well will go out or the creek might dry up for a spell. Also have a few jugs sitting around in case those need filling, too. Might have to build a sled to haul it around to get water, though.

Shelter: If the house gets damaged, like a tree falls on it, have back up repair parts – sheets of plywood tucked away, some 2 X 4s, tarps, and the tools to go with that. If all else fails, a portable yurt or tent to live in while you make repairs.

Food: Storage containers that keep pests out. Use them for other than food, too. Pests like raccoons and possum can get into a lot of things, but make it as difficult as possible for them.

A burn barrel. Burn the trash in a controlled setting.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #6 (Sept 2017)

September 30, 2017 ReadyMom 0

South Korean banks brace for electromagnetic pulse attack from the North
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09 … ack-north/

29 September 2017

South Korean banks are drawing up plans to protect critical electronic data from a potential electromagnetic pulse attack by North Korea.

The South’s banks and other infrastructure, including nuclear power stations and government ministries, have been the target of successful North Korean hacking attacks in the past and there are growing concerns that the nation’s financial institutions could be crippled by an EMP weapon, either in the form of a nuclear blast or a conventional electromagnetic pulse device.

Banks are looking into establishing data centres overseas, The Korea Herald reported, or the construction of reinforced repositories designed to withstand the blast of an EMP weapon. Electronic equipment exposed to an electromagnetic pulse can experience damaging current and voltage surges, while data stored electronically can be corrupted.

“Current regulations prohibit the transfer of client information overseas, so we are discussing ways to revise those rules so we can set up data back-up centres abroad”, a financial official told the newspaper.

The banks are acting after the government warned Thursday that North Korea is “highly likely” to carry out additional military provocations in the coming weeks.

After a series of nuclear tests and missiles launches, Pyongyang has been subjected to increasingly stringent sanctions imposed by the international community. The regime of Kim Jong-un continues to defy the rest of the world, however, and insists that it will continue to develop and deploy weapons capable of reaching targets anywhere in the continental United States.

Kang Kyung-wha, the South Korean foreign minister, said intelligence agencies are anticipating some sort of action by Pyongyang on or around October 10, the 72nd anniversary of the founding of the ruling Workers’ Party of Korea.

Another date that is being monitored is October 18, when the Communist Party of China is scheduled to open its 19th National Congress.

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BOL’s and Retreats • Re: You Have Just Finished a Remote BOL…

September 29, 2017 daaswampman 0

My BOL is a primitive duplicate of my home. I visit often and three weeks has been my longest stay. Doing everything by hand leaves no need for entertainment or any room for festive decorations!

Everything is carried in and it is not a short walk for a screw or bit of tape. The result is a massive duplication of everything! Hand tools and many supplies can be found cheap at sales and auctions, there is no such thing as too many!

More work and storage space is always needed, everything else is secondary! Right now I am drying herbs and when I left my BOL home yesterday, it more resembled a hay barn than anything else

That is what many people don’t get! We are used to getting everything as we need it, but when you butcher a hog – you have the whole hog to deal with and it’s right now! Swamp

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Introduce Yourself • Re: New Members, Welcome to our forum!

September 29, 2017 Free 2 B U + Me 0

Hello! I just joined, I’m a NYer, looking diligently for NW AK group that is already established on their property, may welcome me as visitor, and if chemistry good, have me move there. I have solid prepper skills to offer, have a regular income but am free to use my time to further the groups prepping. Please give me any solid, established groups looking for new member.

Statistics: Posted by Free 2 B U + Me — Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:25 am


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General Family Preparedness • Getting Organized

September 29, 2017 LetsPrep11 0

After almost 7 years of prepping, we have accumulated a ton of supplies. Organizing the smaller items has become a gigantic problem. I’ll know I have items like; tent lights, emergency candles, pocket flashlight, water filters, and compressed towels, etc. in the Prep room, but where did I put them? I was constantly searching buckets, drawers, and totes for the one thing I was looking for. What a waste of time! Finally, I hit on a great way to store dozens and dozens of items that could be found in an instant. I went to Walmart and bought an Over the Door Organizer, like this:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Whitmor-Supreme-White-Over-the-Door-Shoe-Organizer/37389035

It has 24 big, clear pockets, so I can spot what I’m looking for right away. I located the items I needed for our recent hurricane in seconds! If we had to Bug Out, I could just roll up the organizer and shove it in the car. I love this organizer so much, I’ve decided to buy 2 more to hang on the ends of our row of shelves. They would be great for holding things like medical supplies and toiletries, and clear up some floor space. Wish I’d thought of this years ago!

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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: 2017 SEPTEMBER – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month

September 29, 2017 rickdun 0

Got the oats in and plowed 7 acre field and winter wheat planted. Rotated 30 gallons of gas and refilled containers. Brought down 3 loads of wood from upper field and stacked for for next winter.

Got my ebay order of 50 feet of wicks for lanterns. Wife canned a punch of sweet corn and and potatoes. The garden is ready now to plant winter onions and my garlic for next year.

Archery season starts tomorrow here in Pa., taking the grandson out for his first time.

At one of the local grange fairs, the grandson took 2nd place for his garlic got a check for $1.75, the granddaughter took 1st place for her pumpkin pie got a check for $5.00 and the wife took 1st place for her apple pie got a check for $25.00 and she can go to Harrisburg for the state bake.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:37 am