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Water • Re: 55 gallon drum storage. What did I do wrong?

June 30, 2017 Snook 0

Would using a white water hose really make that much of a difference? I would think so If the water were from a sterile source. But, wouldn’t the contaminants in a regular garden hose be in the water pipes where the water is coming from as well?

Statistics: Posted by Snook — Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:23 pm


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Water • Re: 55 gallon drum storage. What did I do wrong?

June 30, 2017 Snook 0

Would using a white water hose really make that much of a difference? I would think so If the water were from a sterile source. But, wouldn’t the contaminants in a regular garden hose be in the water pipes where the water is coming from as well?

Statistics: Posted by Snook — Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:23 pm


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: June 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

June 30, 2017 Cin 0

Today was grocery shopping and yard sale day.

Grocery shopping:

Restocked what we used
Gatorade for LTS
Items for our depleted travel snack box

Yard sales:

Graco Toddler bed – $5 (older model, but looks like it retailed for about $60-$80)
Cast iron tabletop firepit – $7 (really pleased with this, lowest price I’d seen for fake ones was $60)

Husband and I are now in high gear – trying to get the property ready for family visiting next week – setting up the stock tank pool, getting in new gravel for the driveway and spreading it, decks power-washed and re-stained, outdoor furniture re-painted, new cushion covers made, beds set up with sheets and covers, food to make and freeze, housekeeping, etc. Looking forward to some fun with the family, too!

Statistics: Posted by Cin — Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:40 pm


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General Preparedness Discussion • Re: June 2017 – What Did You Do To Prep This Week/Month?

June 30, 2017 Cin 0

Today was grocery shopping and yard sale day.

Grocery shopping:

Restocked what we used
Gatorade for LTS
Items for our depleted travel snack box

Yard sales:

Graco Toddler bed – $5 (older model, but looks like it retailed for about $60-$80)
Cast iron tabletop firepit – $7 (really pleased with this, lowest price I’d seen for fake ones was $60)

Husband and I are now in high gear – trying to get the property ready for family visiting next week – setting up the stock tank pool, getting in new gravel for the driveway and spreading it, decks power-washed and re-stained, outdoor furniture re-painted, new cushion covers made, beds set up with sheets and covers, food to make and freeze, housekeeping, etc. Looking forward to some fun with the family, too!

Statistics: Posted by Cin — Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:40 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Drakenstead1 0

I decided to think this one over before posting. A lot of folks who I respect have already done so with what I would consider accurate but limited analysis. I consider all of you friends and to be intelligent patriots. My use of the word “limited” is by no means meant to denigrate any of you or your responses. I pray that when “IT” happens I have you all, or men like you to stand with.

The so called liberals (that term if you research the original meaning does not actually apply to them) have demonstrated their methodology for many years. Their current strategy of binding up the President with a thousand legal entanglements and to assault him with the propaganda apparatus of their lap dog and traitorous media is a continuation of their strategy over the years with added intensity and sophistication. It reminds me of the Johnathon Swift scene where the hero finds himself bound by hundreds of threads and surrounded by the diminutive Lilliputians.
It’s my contention that there is a “coup de etat” (strike to the state) in play as we discuss this. These people are first and foremost cowards and bullies. They will never confront but seek like the rats that they are to crawl around the edges and gnaw at the moorings until the ship of state drifts free so they can present themselves as saviors. Their stated strategy has always been to create a problem then present themselves and their agenda as the solution. They will continue to attack through the judiciary and with their mangy dogs in the media until they can set up a situation where an entity of the existing government can act to seize control in the interests of saving the country and restoring order. You can bet your last dollar that even if their is an attack by Islamic extremists the blame, will be placed on what they term “right wing fascist elements” (That’s us by the way).
I have a running argument with a very good friend in which he tells me that due to a long standing code, the military especially the officer’s corps will have no part of this. My position is that the traditional officer’s corps has been purged of most of the old line men of honor & that many of our service members are products of the same education system and philosophy that has produced our crop of campus snowflakes and social justice warriors. Coming from a very long family tradition of service to this country and having take the OATH myself (twice actually) I am inclined to agree with him. The evidence I see to the contrary is hard for me to swallow but I must accept it until I see evidence to the contrary.
I suspect that the LEOs are in the same position. Many of them as with the military are decent patriotic Americans who would and do put their lives on the line to stand behind their oath. But like the military a lot of our LEOs unfortunately are also products of the same system. In addition, when the breakdown and chaos occur they will have to consider their families and especially the welfare of their children. To buck the system would be to risk starvation or worse. Thus I see a serious problem in who exactly do you shoot and who exactly do you trust. Obviously the liberal (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) hat neighbor celebrating the triumph of what he considers the greater good can’t be trusted. But what about the sheriff’s deputies or the NG rifle squads charged with door to door confiscation of weapons and the round up of “fascist elements”. How do you spot them and how do you shoot some poor bastard who was forced to make a choice between his job and keeping his kids safe and fed?

The coup will be executed without shots being fired. It’s their way. The aftermath is when things will get dicey. All of those ARs buried in Obama tubes and all of the 5.56 green tip, magazines and web gear will come out of the ground but then when you try to organize with your neighbors what happens? The media will rail against the fascist uprising and run long blowhard pieces about Russian aid to these criminals. Their new president and legislators will call for martial law for the duration of an emergency that will last generations. They will hail our Constitution and our “way of life” while they dismember it completely. I expect that the aid of UN Peacekeepers will be enlisted and that a purge of the military and Law Enforcement will be one of the first programs enacted. The disarming of the population and the internment of “fascist elements” will occur concurrently.

This is indeed a dark view of the future. I have several possible solutions in mind but hesitate to enumerate them in such a very public forum. I suspect that many of you have things in mind and probably have even made actual preps . I’d suggest that detailing them here would be unwise. I also strongly suspect that what many of you think and are preparing would fit 100% with mine. I’m an old man slightly crippled but still dangerous. There were a lot of lessons to be learned from little yellow men in black pajamas. We also have traditions going back to the French and Indian wars to feed us. Just be careful to whom you speak and what you propose. This is coming all of us can feel it in the wind. We need to water the Tree of Liberty once again
G-d Bless and keep every one of you

Statistics: Posted by Drakenstead1 — Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:49 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Drakenstead1 0

I decided to think this one over before posting. A lot of folks who I respect have already done so with what I would consider accurate but limited analysis. I consider all of you friends and to be intelligent patriots. My use of the word “limited” is by no means meant to denigrate any of you or your responses. I pray that when “IT” happens I have you all, or men like you to stand with.

The so called liberals (that term if you research the original meaning does not actually apply to them) have demonstrated their methodology for many years. Their current strategy of binding up the President with a thousand legal entanglements and to assault him with the propaganda apparatus of their lap dog and traitorous media is a continuation of their strategy over the years with added intensity and sophistication. It reminds me of the Johnathon Swift scene where the hero finds himself bound by hundreds of threads and surrounded by the diminutive Lilliputians.
It’s my contention that there is a “coup de etat” (strike to the state) in play as we discuss this. These people are first and foremost cowards and bullies. They will never confront but seek like the rats that they are to crawl around the edges and gnaw at the moorings until the ship of state drifts free so they can present themselves as saviors. Their stated strategy has always been to create a problem then present themselves and their agenda as the solution. They will continue to attack through the judiciary and with their mangy dogs in the media until they can set up a situation where an entity of the existing government can act to seize control in the interests of saving the country and restoring order. You can bet your last dollar that even if their is an attack by Islamic extremists the blame, will be placed on what they term “right wing fascist elements” (That’s us by the way).
I have a running argument with a very good friend in which he tells me that due to a long standing code, the military especially the officer’s corps will have no part of this. My position is that the traditional officer’s corps has been purged of most of the old line men of honor & that many of our service members are products of the same education system and philosophy that has produced our crop of campus snowflakes and social justice warriors. Coming from a very long family tradition of service to this country and having take the OATH myself (twice actually) I am inclined to agree with him. The evidence I see to the contrary is hard for me to swallow but I must accept it until I see evidence to the contrary.
I suspect that the LEOs are in the same position. Many of them as with the military are decent patriotic Americans who would and do put their lives on the line to stand behind their oath. But like the military a lot of our LEOs unfortunately are also products of the same system. In addition, when the breakdown and chaos occur they will have to consider their families and especially the welfare of their children. To buck the system would be to risk starvation or worse. Thus I see a serious problem in who exactly do you shoot and who exactly do you trust. Obviously the liberal (Censored word. I’m a potty mouth) hat neighbor celebrating the triumph of what he considers the greater good can’t be trusted. But what about the sheriff’s deputies or the NG rifle squads charged with door to door confiscation of weapons and the round up of “fascist elements”. How do you spot them and how do you shoot some poor bastard who was forced to make a choice between his job and keeping his kids safe and fed?

The coup will be executed without shots being fired. It’s their way. The aftermath is when things will get dicey. All of those ARs buried in Obama tubes and all of the 5.56 green tip, magazines and web gear will come out of the ground but then when you try to organize with your neighbors what happens? The media will rail against the fascist uprising and run long blowhard pieces about Russian aid to these criminals. Their new president and legislators will call for martial law for the duration of an emergency that will last generations. They will hail our Constitution and our “way of life” while they dismember it completely. I expect that the aid of UN Peacekeepers will be enlisted and that a purge of the military and Law Enforcement will be one of the first programs enacted. The disarming of the population and the internment of “fascist elements” will occur concurrently.

This is indeed a dark view of the future. I have several possible solutions in mind but hesitate to enumerate them in such a very public forum. I suspect that many of you have things in mind and probably have even made actual preps . I’d suggest that detailing them here would be unwise. I also strongly suspect that what many of you think and are preparing would fit 100% with mine. I’m an old man slightly crippled but still dangerous. There were a lot of lessons to be learned from little yellow men in black pajamas. We also have traditions going back to the French and Indian wars to feed us. Just be careful to whom you speak and what you propose. This is coming all of us can feel it in the wind. We need to water the Tree of Liberty once again
G-d Bless and keep every one of you

Statistics: Posted by Drakenstead1 — Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:49 pm


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Pennsylvania Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Gettysburg

June 30, 2017 ReadyMom 0

I figured it was just a matter of time before it was going to be an issue for Gettysburg, with all the Confederate monuments there This is crazy! Makes my stomach churn to see this crap happening across the country. History is history. It’s what birthed this nation. I need an island or a hillside somewhere away from humanity. -k

Statistics: Posted by ReadyMom — Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:39 pm


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Pennsylvania Discussion, News and Weather • Re: Gettysburg

June 30, 2017 ReadyMom 0

I figured it was just a matter of time before it was going to be an issue for Gettysburg, with all the Confederate monuments there This is crazy! Makes my stomach churn to see this crap happening across the country. History is history. It’s what birthed this nation. I need an island or a hillside somewhere away from humanity. -k

Statistics: Posted by ReadyMom — Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:39 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Permafrost 0
Gunns wrote:
Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don’t recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

It’s simple numbers Gunns. per your example, 10 vets with handguns @ 15 shots per clip = 150 rounds of ammo before reload, figure everyone has 4 spare clips that gives a total count of 750 rounds. Not all of those will be kill shots. History is full of examples of governments getting overthrown by starving peasants with sticks going up against superior armed troops. It is the will of the peasants that throw away their lives for the “grater good” that turns the tide. If every welfare crack head and greeny tree hugger suddenly stormed the power structures there would be a sudden population drop by a order of magnitude but they might also have a chance to actually win. Not saying there would be very many of them left when all was said and done but they would have a chance if they wanted it bad enough.

Like I said a interesting thought exercise, especially when you start looking at population percentages on welfare vs active duty troops stationed by major cities. It gets even worse when you throw in the prison populations that the rioters will surely release. If you do the math it leaves a bleak picture of what would be left for those in the middle that could care less about either side.

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:50 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Permafrost 0
Gunns wrote:
Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don’t recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

It’s simple numbers Gunns. per your example, 10 vets with handguns @ 15 shots per clip = 150 rounds of ammo before reload, figure everyone has 4 spare clips that gives a total count of 750 rounds. Not all of those will be kill shots. History is full of examples of governments getting overthrown by starving peasants with sticks going up against superior armed troops. It is the will of the peasants that throw away their lives for the “grater good” that turns the tide. If every welfare crack head and greeny tree hugger suddenly stormed the power structures there would be a sudden population drop by a order of magnitude but they might also have a chance to actually win. Not saying there would be very many of them left when all was said and done but they would have a chance if they wanted it bad enough.

Like I said a interesting thought exercise, especially when you start looking at population percentages on welfare vs active duty troops stationed by major cities. It gets even worse when you throw in the prison populations that the rioters will surely release. If you do the math it leaves a bleak picture of what would be left for those in the middle that could care less about either side.

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:50 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Permafrost 0
Gunns wrote:
Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don’t recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

It’s simple numbers Gunns. per your example, 10 vets with handguns @ 15 shots per clip = 150 rounds of ammo before reload, figure everyone has 4 spare clips that gives a total count of 750 rounds. Not all of those will be kill shots. History is full of examples of governments getting overthrown by starving peasants with sticks going up against superior armed troops. It is the will of the peasants that throw away their lives for the “grater good” that turns the tide. If every welfare crack head and greeny tree hugger suddenly stormed the power structures there would be a sudden population drop by a order of magnitude but they might also have a chance to actually win. Not saying there would be very many of them left when all was said and done but they would have a chance if they wanted it bad enough.

Like I said a interesting thought exercise, especially when you start looking at population percentages on welfare vs active duty troops stationed by major cities. It gets even worse when you throw in the prison populations that the rioters will surely release. If you do the math it leaves a bleak picture of what would be left for those in the middle that could care less about either side.

Statistics: Posted by Permafrost — Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:50 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
rickdun wrote:
Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

I bet. Only time I really sweat it was when I was in South Korea and facing me across the DMZ was a bunch of NK tanks. My zone was about 160 degrees. Was during the “Ax Murder incident”. Nothing happened of course but we were not amused.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:19 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 Gunns 0
rickdun wrote:
Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

I bet. Only time I really sweat it was when I was in South Korea and facing me across the DMZ was a bunch of NK tanks. My zone was about 160 degrees. Was during the “Ax Murder incident”. Nothing happened of course but we were not amused.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:19 pm


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Group Guidelines in Reviewing Appl.

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

I know that many think that they will be the lone ranger and do it alone or with just your family. Let’s look at that, and remember the Lone Range had a side kick. But you must stop and think, is it just you and you mate, maybe two or three kids, teenagers, or young adults. Now from the two mates it gets better as the family grows, because; each member now has a roll in life. If its just the two of you, your screwed, security must be maintained daily, who sleeps and who stands watch. two of you, how long can you run on just four (4) hours of sleep each. Sleep studies have shown that the human must have a minimum of six (6) hours of rest to function well. Less than that and you become less capable of normal task and decisions are hard to make.

A group you have more people to share those tasks.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:59 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Group Guidelines in Reviewing Appl.

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

I know that many think that they will be the lone ranger and do it alone or with just your family. Let’s look at that, and remember the Lone Range had a side kick. But you must stop and think, is it just you and you mate, maybe two or three kids, teenagers, or young adults. Now from the two mates it gets better as the family grows, because; each member now has a roll in life. If its just the two of you, your screwed, security must be maintained daily, who sleeps and who stands watch. two of you, how long can you run on just four (4) hours of sleep each. Sleep studies have shown that the human must have a minimum of six (6) hours of rest to function well. Less than that and you become less capable of normal task and decisions are hard to make.

A group you have more people to share those tasks.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:59 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Group Guidelines in Reviewing Appl.

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

I know from studies I’ve read, the group that stay together and last or survive are those made up mainly of family members or church members. They figure that it’s because of the close ties to one another and the knowing how a person reacts in situations. I see some pretty good bonding here and that is great, because you are trusting your and your family’s lives on it. We need to make our groups as strong as possible if we are to survive a GDS event. Knowing what each person’s roll is in the group and who the leader is and that he or she has the support of the group.

Every group must incorporate a rule of law that they must live by regardless, because without it, there is no security. Everyone must be the prosecution, defense, judge, jury and executioner. It’s sad; but this is the glue that binds us together to survive, and there will be times that this must be done, for you, your family and friends to live one more day.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:45 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Group Guidelines in Reviewing Appl.

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

I know from studies I’ve read, the group that stay together and last or survive are those made up mainly of family members or church members. They figure that it’s because of the close ties to one another and the knowing how a person reacts in situations. I see some pretty good bonding here and that is great, because you are trusting your and your family’s lives on it. We need to make our groups as strong as possible if we are to survive a GDS event. Knowing what each person’s roll is in the group and who the leader is and that he or she has the support of the group.

Every group must incorporate a rule of law that they must live by regardless, because without it, there is no security. Everyone must be the prosecution, defense, judge, jury and executioner. It’s sad; but this is the glue that binds us together to survive, and there will be times that this must be done, for you, your family and friends to live one more day.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:45 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 rickdun 0

Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:29 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

June 30, 2017 rickdun 0

Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you’re talking about as the “final firing line”, the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.

Statistics: Posted by rickdun — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:29 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bacon Math

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

Sorry for the delay, Handyman777 is the closest correct answer. The math problem was improperly stated. Because only 27 pieces of bacon was given and 27 received. The travelers ended up paying 27 pieces of bacon for fuel and the manager and assistant received 27 pieces of bacon. It’s a trick question.

Thanks for your input, and a hands up to Handyman777, for getting it.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:15 am


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A.N.T.S. • Re: Bacon Math

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

Sorry for the delay, Handyman777 is the closest correct answer. The math problem was improperly stated. Because only 27 pieces of bacon was given and 27 received. The travelers ended up paying 27 pieces of bacon for fuel and the manager and assistant received 27 pieces of bacon. It’s a trick question.

Thanks for your input, and a hands up to Handyman777, for getting it.

Statistics: Posted by Cadit — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:15 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Lots going on here…Just a weekend chat discussion.

June 30, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

I’m putting this under Disaster General Prep as it discusses multiple items here…

Electrical grid attacks…Man made and Space Weather impacts.

We all know about CME’s and the effects on our magnetic shield….The video below will show an incoming Earth directed CME set to hit us July 2nd.(its small and not moving too fast)
This is a good chance for the lessor informed to watch an impact on a small scale and watching the effects even with that.(I will update this after to show them)…It will most likely be radio disruptions, satellite interruptions, and a transformer loss/small blackout somewhere IF ANYTHING AT ALL…We’ll see.

There’s multiple topics going on here so I’ll timestamp the areas referenced in this one Main video update this AM.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV8cdO1IFs
0:22…Current space weather and dual CME’s
1:33…Fracking caused earthquakes
2:12…Pesticides effects on bee populations study confirmed

A great learning opportunity here in real-time…CME impact on Earth(will be small with this one)…Projected direct hit for Sunday (1:12 in above video)…Green to yellow wave hits yellow dot(the earth) on the right in the spire.
(Maybe be boring to you but if you want a deeper understanding at a glance)…..The Sun is in the middle…The spiral is outgoing particles from a Coronal Hole…depending on the severity of the speed and/or density of these impacts on Earth different things happen and can be predicted when combined with the knowledge of what’s going on here with our magnetic shield and how its fluctuating at the time/ Interplanetary Magnetic field or IMF(Black and white dotted line in the spire connecting all the planets to the Sun), and other planetary alignments….the White solid line at the front of the spires is the “Sheath”(Accumulating Propagation of Interplanetary Coronal Mass Ejection) Just think of that as a concentrated bit of Plasma or the Front of the impact……..With a deeper understanding of this we can even predict with about a est. accuracy of 60-70% for Earthquakes here in the 6+ magnitude range when combined with an OLR map(Outgoing Long-Wave radiation)……Getting better all the time here on that. It is nowhere near perfect and infallible….. yet.

The two small views on the right with the yellow dot(Earth) are stationary views used to project hit severity on our planet.
here’s a larger view…https://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261

We also have the man-made threats….Hacking is getting more prevalent all the time. Our experts have been screaming at the top of their lungs for years at our vulnerabilities and yet we rarely often even hear a whisper….We only have to look to the Ukraine to see the most recent examples…[SNIP] Someone, or various individuals, may be using the country as a test-bed for refining attacks on critical infrastructure, attacks that could be used across the world.[SNIP]

2 previous attacks mentioned here…https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bmvkn4/ukrainian-power-station-hacking-december-2016-report

The December hack of 2015 here, Insiders look….https://www.wired.com/2016/03/inside-cunning-unprecedented-hack-ukraines-power-grid/
[SNIP]….But just as one worker was organizing papers at his desk that day, the cursor on his computer suddenly skittered across the screen of its own accord.
He watched as it navigated purposefully toward buttons controlling the circuit breakers at a substation in the region and then clicked on a box to open the breakers and take the substation offline. A dialogue window popped up on screen asking to confirm the action, and the operator stared dumbfounded as the cursor glided to the box and clicked to affirm. Somewhere in a region outside the city he knew that thousands of residents had just lost their lights and heaters.
The operator grabbed his mouse and tried desperately to seize control of the cursor, but it was unresponsive. Then as the cursor moved in the direction of another breaker, the machine suddenly logged him out of the control panel. Although he tried frantically to log back in, the attackers had changed his password preventing him from gaining re-entry.
….[SNIP]

Most recent here…https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/01/the-new-normal-yet-another-hacker-caused-power-outage-hits-ukraine/
[SNIP]“The attack [was] not meant to have any lasting dramatic consequences,” Marina Krotofil, a security researcher for Honeywell Industrial Cyber Security Labs, told Motherboard. “They could do many more things, but obviously they didn’t have this as an intent. It was more like a demonstration of capabilities.”[SNIP]

So, like I said…..Lots going on. :rolleyes:

As the subject header states, I’m just throwing this out there for discussion….Please feel free to chime in on these and even throw out anything along these lines or others…There’s nothing off topic here.

Have a great weekend all… :gunsmile:

~D

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Statistics: Posted by DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE — Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:09 am


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General Preparedness Discussion • Lots going on here…Just a weekend chat discussion.

June 30, 2017 DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE 0

I’m putting this under Disaster General Prep as it discusses multiple items here…

Electrical grid attacks…Man made and Space Weather impacts.

We all know about CME’s and the effects on our magnetic shield….The video below will show an incoming Earth directed CME set to hit us July 2nd.(its small and not moving too fast)
This is a good chance for the lessor informed to watch an impact on a small scale and watching the effects even with that.(I will update this after to show them)…It will most likely be radio disruptions, satellite interruptions, and a transformer loss/small blackout somewhere IF ANYTHING AT ALL…We’ll see.

There’s multiple topics going on here so I’ll timestamp the areas referenced in this one Main video update this AM.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYV8cdO1IFs
0:22…Current space weather and dual CME’s
1:33…Fracking caused earthquakes
2:12…Pesticides effects on bee populations study confirmed

A great learning opportunity here in real-time…CME impact on Earth(will be small with this one)…Projected direct hit for Sunday (1:12 in above video)…Green to yellow wave hits yellow dot(the earth) on the right in the spire.
(Maybe be boring to you but if you want a deeper understanding at a glance)…..The Sun is in the middle…The spiral is outgoing particles from a Coronal Hole…depending on the severity of the speed and/or density of these impacts on Earth different things happen and can be predicted when combined with the knowledge of what’s going on here with our magnetic shield and how its fluctuating at the time/ Interplanetary Magnetic field or IMF(Black and white dotted line in the spire connecting all the planets to the Sun), and other planetary alignments….the White solid line at the front of the spires is the “Sheath”(Accumulating Propagation of Interplanetary Coronal Mass Ejection) Just think of that as a concentrated bit of Plasma or the Front of the impact……..With a deeper understanding of this we can even predict with about a est. accuracy of 60-70% for Earthquakes here in the 6+ magnitude range when combined with an OLR map(Outgoing Long-Wave radiation)……Getting better all the time here on that. It is nowhere near perfect and infallible….. yet.

The two small views on the right with the yellow dot(Earth) are stationary views used to project hit severity on our planet.
here’s a larger view…https://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261

We also have the man-made threats….Hacking is getting more prevalent all the time. Our experts have been screaming at the top of their lungs for years at our vulnerabilities and yet we rarely often even hear a whisper….We only have to look to the Ukraine to see the most recent examples…[SNIP] Someone, or various individuals, may be using the country as a test-bed for refining attacks on critical infrastructure, attacks that could be used across the world.[SNIP]

2 previous attacks mentioned here…https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bmvkn4/ukrainian-power-station-hacking-december-2016-report

The December hack of 2015 here, Insiders look….https://www.wired.com/2016/03/inside-cunning-unprecedented-hack-ukraines-power-grid/
[SNIP]….But just as one worker was organizing papers at his desk that day, the cursor on his computer suddenly skittered across the screen of its own accord.
He watched as it navigated purposefully toward buttons controlling the circuit breakers at a substation in the region and then clicked on a box to open the breakers and take the substation offline. A dialogue window popped up on screen asking to confirm the action, and the operator stared dumbfounded as the cursor glided to the box and clicked to affirm. Somewhere in a region outside the city he knew that thousands of residents had just lost their lights and heaters.
The operator grabbed his mouse and tried desperately to seize control of the cursor, but it was unresponsive. Then as the cursor moved in the direction of another breaker, the machine suddenly logged him out of the control panel. Although he tried frantically to log back in, the attackers had changed his password preventing him from gaining re-entry.
….[SNIP]

Most recent here…https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/01/the-new-normal-yet-another-hacker-caused-power-outage-hits-ukraine/
[SNIP]“The attack [was] not meant to have any lasting dramatic consequences,” Marina Krotofil, a security researcher for Honeywell Industrial Cyber Security Labs, told Motherboard. “They could do many more things, but obviously they didn’t have this as an intent. It was more like a demonstration of capabilities.”[SNIP]

So, like I said…..Lots going on. :rolleyes:

As the subject header states, I’m just throwing this out there for discussion….Please feel free to chime in on these and even throw out anything along these lines or others…There’s nothing off topic here.

Have a great weekend all… :gunsmile:

~D

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A.N.T.S. • Re: OK Preppers, Time to Sound Off

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

Oh man; you guys are so wonderful, I love these post, and the one of the forge fan, tugging at my heart, I too love baking bread the old fashion way, by hand. Not to mention the sewing on those rainy nights when the power is out with by battery back for lighting. Man I love this. Makes me want to do it all. I want to be good at metallurgy and woodworking. I like to make knives also. But enough of that, if I could I would do so many things, because like many of you, I like building things and making things.

Thank you for these great post. I hope I hear form others like you.

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A.N.T.S. • Re: OK Preppers, Time to Sound Off

June 30, 2017 Cadit 0

Oh man; you guys are so wonderful, I love these post, and the one of the forge fan, tugging at my heart, I too love baking bread the old fashion way, by hand. Not to mention the sewing on those rainy nights when the power is out with by battery back for lighting. Man I love this. Makes me want to do it all. I want to be good at metallurgy and woodworking. I like to make knives also. But enough of that, if I could I would do so many things, because like many of you, I like building things and making things.

Thank you for these great post. I hope I hear form others like you.

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Emergency Communications • Re: Are CB radios still an option?

June 30, 2017 orangetom1999 0

A suggestion , If I might…..

A peaked and tuned radio is fine…for sure.

However…there might come conditions in a SHTF situation where you do not want to leave a peaked and tuned fingerprint…or running so much power that you stand out all across the country or country.

With this in mind it is often nice and convenient to have a variable resistor installed in line by which you can adjust your out put power up or down as needed. This no matter how powerful your final transistor puts out the watts. In this manner it us up to you as to how big a fingerprint your rig leaves in the airwaves.

This is common on most HF Ham radios and I have seen CB’ers who have incorporated this feature into the backs of their rigs.

You might not want everyone to know you are there by leaving a huge amount of power…a huge fingerprint …to let everyone know you are there.

For those of you who know how…a directional antenna and adjustable power are optimal….and for those who know even more….the ground plane of your vehicle and how to use it to your best advantage helps as well…with adjustable output power. In otherwords the transmitting pattern of your mobile set up..how and in what direction your mobile antenna transmits the best.

This no matter what bands on which one operates.

Just a passing thought.

Orangetom

Statistics: Posted by orangetom1999 — Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:57 am