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January 19, 2017 arkieready 0

I wondered if there were YouTube videos of a lens direct heating a Dutch oven. Yes! Combining lens and a homemade sun oven. Yup. Lens and reflectors. Indeed.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 19, 2017 BK in KC 0
rebnavy1862 wrote:
You folks seem to think that all conservatives are nazi monsters. I give generously to worthy charities. I have helped many needy people by myself. Stick that in your liberal pipe and smoke it!
Reb

Study after study has revealed that conservatives donate more to charity than liberals.

Poorer conservatives more generous than wealthy liberals – new study

But liberals love to vote for government benefits for the “needy”. In short, they love to be generous with other peoples money.

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Alaska Discussion, News, and Weather • Finally a winter to be proud of

January 19, 2017 Permafrost 0

So I got back into town yesterday and I knew it was cold, but I had no idea. A bear had broke my thermometer this fall so when I took off I did not know the actual temp. I think I would have waited a while to make the trip if I had known. 50 below temps with a 30 mph wind (per snowmachine speedometer) equals really, really cold. Probably need to be in town until the weather breaks so that my freight does not shatter on the way home when I hit a bump.

http://www.newsminer.com/news/alaska_ne … 41639.html

It has been years since we have had multiple feet of snow, much less temps where they should be. Perhaps someone kicked Al Gore’s @ss and broke the global warming curse he placed on the planet. On the bright side I think that the overflow I went through on the way into town will be froze when I go home in a few days. Once the snow is packed down and the water is exposed it should not take long for it to freeze up at fifty below zero.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 19, 2017 rebnavy1862 0
PatrioticStabilist wrote:
You folks seem to think all liberals are on the dole, I don’t get that. I know many many wealthy people that are liberals like us, though most of us are more moderate. The difference is we also believe in helping those less fortunate. Some people no matter how hard they work will never have anything.

I do not like what I hear about repealing health care, they are saying health care will be available. Well if many of the people that don’t have it could afford it most would. Make health savings accounts, you have to have left over money to save, offer less expensive likely worthless insurance, same thing.

Most of us worked and had decent benefits protecting us from illness and health issues, I know without that coverage we would have been broke with some of my and DD’s health issues. It’s just not black and white like some of you see it. Also you need to make enough money to cover basic needs before you can save, wages are not keeping up.

I see all these old folks enjoying life out here spending big dollars, that’s because they like us were the recipients of good paying jobs and benefits that seem to be going away daily.

Some folks are one accident away from being poor.

You folks seem to think that all conservatives are nazi monsters. I give generously to worthy charities. I have helped many needy people by myself. Stick that in your liberal pipe and smoke it!
Reb

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Guns • Re: LaserLyte?

January 18, 2017 Cast Iron 0
Gunns wrote:

JC1 wrote:I got an ITarget for Christmas and love it. I can’t wait to see if it’ll help improve my shooting with live rounds. If nothing else it’s great entertainment (specially when the closest range is outdoor with 3 feet of snow.) :gunshooting:

Well I set up my itarget. The laser shoots high, I mean like 7 inches high. It is misaligned big time. Have to send it back. Dang.

Oh by the way, my shot groups in real life are just a bit low and left of center.

Could you post the link to their website?

I keep getting Target, like the retail store.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 Cast Iron 0
RayMac1963 wrote:

ReadyMom wrote:4 from PA are NOT going:
Rep. Brendan Boyle (PA)
Rep. Robert Brady (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
Rep. Dwight Evans (PA)

Source: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/17/h … auguration

Somehow we need to turn down the rhetoric. The last 8 years has been way too much. Now, sure Dems have a every right to act a fool. Who can blame them. They can say “you republicans did it” and be absolutely right, can’t argue that fact. How do we ever get back on the same page? Politics made people act like 3rd graders. We all need to grow up and see the other side a little. And the new Commander an Tweet isn’t helping his or the parties cause.

I agree.

The last eight years have seen a division in America from multiple aspects, race, politics, religion etc.

This election amped that up.

I thought it would all calm down after the election.

But it has not. MSM has gone, for lack of better terms, bat sh!t crazy with the amount of fear and hysteria they are spreading.
And seemingly rational people are eating it up. They have foregone all common sense and logic. They are suddenly blind to see through the propaganda the MSM is spreading.

Unfortunately, the fear is real, even if what they fear of is not.

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 18, 2017 PatrioticStabilist 0

You folks seem to think all liberals are on the dole, I don’t get that. I know many many wealthy people that are liberals like us, though most of us are more moderate. The difference is we also believe in helping those less fortunate. Some people no matter how hard they work will never have anything.

I do not like what I hear about repealing health care, they are saying health care will be available. Well if many of the people that don’t have it could afford it most would. Make health savings accounts, you have to have left over money to save, offer less expensive likely worthless insurance, same thing.

Most of us worked and had decent benefits protecting us from illness and health issues, I know without that coverage we would have been broke with some of my and DD’s health issues. It’s just not black and white like some of you see it. Also you need to make enough money to cover basic needs before you can save, wages are not keeping up.

I see all these old folks enjoying life out here spending big dollars, that’s because they like us were the recipients of good paying jobs and benefits that seem to be going away daily.

Some folks are one accident away from being poor.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 rickdun 0

I was reading an article at http://www.usherald.com that calls for ISIS attacks on friday’s inauguraltion of DJT, ISIS is calling for it to be called “bloody friday”. It also stated that special forces are on alert as well as everybody else in law enforcement.

I’m hoping this along with all the left wing protests are nothing but smoke or maybe it could turn out to be another Kent State, hope not.

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Guns • Re: LaserLyte?

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
JC1 wrote:
I got an ITarget for Christmas and love it. I can’t wait to see if it’ll help improve my shooting with live rounds. If nothing else it’s great entertainment (specially when the closest range is outdoor with 3 feet of snow.) :gunshooting:

Well I set up my itarget. The laser shoots high, I mean like 7 inches high. It is misaligned big time. Have to send it back. Dang.

Oh by the way, my shot groups in real life are just a bit low and left of center.

Statistics: Posted by Gunns — Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:48 pm


Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Sorry I let that series get so out-of-hand. It’s splattered all through this thread and I hoped keeping what I have together might be helpful?

As always if any of the posts are useful to other threads or topics, here or elsewhere, do share them. Usual deal, it would be thoughtful if you credit us but obviously we’re not really doing it for fame and fortune. If we see our posts credited to anyone else that would be a different matter and we’re liable to turn up at their door to discuss that in person.

I’m fighting with youtube, like to upload a few videos to share. Not really getting anyplace but I’ll apply persistence and see how long it takes me.

Got a pattern for the scrubbies I made for Christmas, some nifty recipes, wine updates and more to share but my head is about tired of it for today.

LOVE the new computer! Went with a Dell “all-in-one” with a huge screen. It is homeless, of course it won’t fit where I used the smaller laptop. It does have a wall mount so we’re thinking about that. I’ve discovered the wireless mouse. I’ll never go back! I am ready for the wireless keyboard too. I never have liked being tethered to anything for any reason. When the cordless phones first came out I was pretty sure I could never be any happier but I was wrong!

The notebook progresses. I like it better as I fiddle with it more. Recall it has a keyboard it can use as a “dock” that expands it’s capabilities, runs windows 10 and not an android system, and has a 32 mb hard drive, which I thought was acceptable for a notebook. I like that it has usb capacity when docked in the keyboard and I love being able to use the keyboard feature if I’m typing more than two words.

Been trying to download some extra antivirus protection for the notebook. Not having much luck with that either but I’ve sure spent a lot of time trying! I did look at reviews, I’d like something fairly small but not cloud-based that uses a minimum of system resources while it does it’s job. I’m willing to pay for something but I’m not sure that’s really necessary?

We’re pretty low risk users. We upload a lot. We have about six sites we frequent and most of those are forums, file hosting sites to upload to, or places like Amazon.com and McMaster Carr. We don’t really download much of anything, are not gamers and don’t surf “recreationally”.

We know what we want, where we’re going and just get on with it when we’re online. Very occasionally I’ll visit upworthy or TEDtalks or some site recommended by a friend, but we both work pretty hard to avoid the world most everyplace we go and the internet is no exception.

Panda’s free version came out well in reviews so I’ve been trying to download that. So far I have not managed to get it, we do have intermittent signal issues and generally that’s not a problem for us doing what we do. Brian has offered to take it along with him to the land of high-speed and I may give up and just say “thank you”.

Still don’t have it all networked. There’s a project for another day but we both appreciate the convenience of having that set up. Brian got a new laptop for work use too so we’re up to 3 or 4 devices we might like to do file sharing on and we tend to generate BIG files with pictures and videos and we’ll sync entire directories sometimes too. Drag and drop sure beats messing with storage media.

If anyone is using a security or antivirus on a notebook they can recommend I’d sure be interested in your real-world experiences versus reviews?

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General Family Preparedness • Re: Libs Catch the Prepping Bug

January 18, 2017 RayMac1963 0
handyman777 wrote:
There probably getting a little worried that the new PRESIDENT might cut them off, from all the free stuff and they’ll have to fend for themselves some day.
This should be interesting.

Thats not a good thing. they see something they don’t like just like we do, forget their political perspective. Don’t sell em short like all libs are on some government dole. You’re in Michigan too, I know a LOT of union guys who work darn hard for they’re money who lean left. IF they see something scary, i would keep my eye on it and ask “why”.

Remember who the biggest beneficiary has been of the expansion of the food stamp/welfare support system has been… WALMART!

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Well THAT was a lot of work! Here’s one we’ll get to keep when we’re done, they are the best jobs but they don’t pay in cash.

The military ambulance is IN the shop! Gets new radiator, freeze plugs and brakes. It is 4 wheel drive and we have the bolt-on chains for it. Be glad to have it on the road again. Heavy duty, 1 ton (1 1/4 or 5/4 ton by military rating), 77 dodge, under 60,000 original miles. Woot!!! We progress. Still have room to work on other things if needed.

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A hand-operated scroll saw at the antique store on the square. Cutest thing I have seen in a long time! Only $2,250 if I recall. Probably worth it. Bit out of my league. I could just put a pulley on mine and run a belt to my treadle sewing machine if I had to have one.

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Brian found this jewel at Trader Baker’s for $20! Nothing for scale here but it is big, saw blade is 6-8 inches tall and 20-24 inches long! We’ll clean it up and get it back in service

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 RayMac1963 0
ReadyMom wrote:
4 from PA are NOT going:
Rep. Brendan Boyle (PA)
Rep. Robert Brady (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
Rep. Dwight Evans (PA)

Source: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/17/h … auguration

Somehow we need to turn down the rhetoric. The last 8 years has been way too much. Now, sure Dems have a every right to act a fool. Who can blame them. They can say “you republicans did it” and be absolutely right, can’t argue that fact. How do we ever get back on the same page? Politics made people act like 3rd graders. We all need to grow up and see the other side a little. And the new Commander an Tweet isn’t helping his or the parties cause.

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Chain guards. 1/4″ formed stainless. It is a kit! Reminds me of my childhood erector set, most beloved along with my electronics kit and chemistry lab set:) Give the children the joy of discovery and let them do it all by themselves if you want them to get an education. Progress continues.

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Getting close to shipping out now! Over 40 feet long. It has wheels on! Recall it moves in two directions during operation – and has that trolley from the start of this series that moves within the bigger assembly.

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One of the control panels on the machine.

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Brian and I were talking about how to teach engineers to make drawings that actually give us the information we require to build the things we share about here – and why WE end up having to do the job our education system got paid to do. In other words why it costs so much to buy American products;)

The arts develop brain structures we need to do math and to envision things in 3 dimension. They are the foundation needed to build the fabrication arts upon. Actual hands-on building in shop classes by middle school at the very latest is the only way to raise engineers who can learn to produce build drawings that are useful to fabricators, and designs that are actually functional.

We can’t even TEACH many “engineers” because they lack critical background and skills to build on. We have turned down far more work than we have taken because we can’t help stupid, it irritates us and makes US look bad if we try. Costs us more time than the job is worth too.

I suggested Brian ask them if they have EVER built anything themselves and how they might go about building a simple bookcase. He can offer useful tips like measuring from corner to corner on a diagonal, if it measures the same both directions in a plane it is square.

A bookcase is a good way to talk about how to properly dimension a drawing and lay out a build. If we measure from one shelf to the next and make a 1/32″ error on each shelf we could easily be off by 7/32″ by the time we make a six shelf unit (counting the top we have seven opportunities to get it wrong). That is nearly a quarter inch in overall cumulative error – and we are working to machinist’s tolerances!

It is necessary to dimension from the same point for each shelf to minimize this. So if shelves are 10 inches apart we can measure 10 inches from the bottom. Then we can measure 20 inches from the bottom plus say a half inch for the wood thickness. Then 30 inches plus an inch for TWO shelves material thickness and so on.

If we are given only 10 inches between shelves we have to do the math as above. Our opportunity for error is increased. And WE are doing the engineers job… If we wanted to make pretty drawings on computers and all that math we would be doing it already! We do it when we need to but we do not love it.

We have to have dimensions that are physically possible to measure on the actual build. CAD can measure through steel plates but we sure can’t! We need centerline dimensions to check our work – and too often to check the engineers work.

We have dumbed down the technologies and we sure are paying for it. Knowing how to operate CAD or a computer programmable machine is a very small part of the whole. SOMEONE involved in design and build has got to understand the whole process for it to be possible! We cannot begin to teach all this in a four year program with no foundation to build on. We are horrified that often WE are the ones who see this and we can’t even explain the problem to the “experts” because they have no frame of reference.

Brian got to explain to the steel company that did machine cutting on those big rectangle tubes and missed critical dimensions by a quarter inch exactly how and where the person operating the machine went wrong. They were amazed we did a number of those by hand and got it dead-on right. We are amazed they cannot even get two holes cut through the sides of a rectangle tube lined up with each other! He said the rep did take notes…

This is a BIG company too. Recall they set us back over a week on a bid job with that mistake. We had to wait for them to do it over and do a better job to finish OUR job and we are not paid until the job is complete and we hit the billing cycle. And then wait for the guy at our address 56 EAST to get our mail and bring it to us because the post office just cannot get that right…
Nothing like doing business with American companies.

This does go on and on but you get the idea…

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Brian’s welding gloves for scale, he special orders to get them big enough. For limited runs (4 of these units if I recall) or fast turnaround it always pays to make a tool to get the job done. Turnaround time sending stuff out and getting it back cramps already tight schedules.

Fit problems can set us back hard. Recall the week lost to tolerance issues recently. Not sure anyone even has bending dies with a 2 1/2 inch radius either. Often takes longer to find someone to send stuff like this to than it takes to make a tool and get ‘er done.

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The earlier model looks kind of small beside this one!

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What the mounts in this series go on. Recall this beast is over 40 feet long! Won’t fit in our shop.

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Chain guards. Brackets mounted on the structure.

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Making tools. Lot of jobs start with making the tools to do them. A simple bending jig here.

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Perfect fit! Too heavy for “weld forming”. The torch is our friend for this kind of job. Got to be careful not to overdo it and cook the carbon out.

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Almost there! Two batches of these, one bunch of these had 3/8″ thick sides and the formed bars were 4 1/2″ wide by 1/4″ thick. This one has 5/8″ thick sides and the formed bars are 5″ wide by 3/8″ thick. I may have the pictures of the two batches mixed up together, trying to show the process in order.

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Haven’t got every clamp in the shop on it yet!

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

It is a puzzle!

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Actually it is a motor mount. Looks big…

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Until you see what it goes on. Back to the foam forming machine again. It goes on and on and on. For many months now.

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The completed unit will weigh 88,000 pounds. There are two of the component shown here. This section is mobile, mounted on a number of linear slides. There are two rails that slide too, only one on the right is in place here. Inch and a half thick aluminum plate on the rails. Top plate on the rails is 3/4″ thick steel. This one is a MONSTER! 12 feet wide and longer than our house! Over 40 feet long.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 Illini Warrior 0
anita wrote:
I heard James O’Keefe interviewed on our local (Philly) talk radio station this morning, and he said they have video of these far-left groups discussing putting butyric acid into the ventilation system of the National Press Club, where the Deploriball is being held. They planned to set off the fire sprinklers somewhere.

Several of these people had tickets to the inauguration and balls, they planned to shut down the Metro, chain the trains to keep them from running, punch “nazis” in the throat (they are talking about the pro-Trump people, not themselves ironically), etc.

O’Keefe said the police/FBI told him that arrests were planned for a number of the thugs on these videos and their affiliates today.

saw the video – not just some BSing going on over drinks – dead freaking serious about the gas attack … if the FBI investigates it they’ll find the preped materials and most likely the advance planning being conducted on security cameras ….

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Weld shot. Still part of the base for the walking beam. Quarter for scale.

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Ahhh… Gotta love a good weld picture! Brian does gorgeous work. He turned this upside down and set his meatloaf lunch (in an aluminium pan) on it to warm it up when he finished the welding. Said he left it there a little too long and had to wait for it to cool. This is part of the base for the walking beam. Nickel for scale.

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Freshly welded, it’s HOT! Warming up lunch. Brian said he got some funny looks… Waste not, want not;)

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 anita 0

I heard James O’Keefe interviewed on our local (Philly) talk radio station this morning, and he said they have video of these far-left groups discussing putting butyric acid into the ventilation system of the National Press Club, where the Deploriball is being held. They planned to set off the fire sprinklers somewhere.

Several of these people had tickets to the inauguration and balls, they planned to shut down the Metro, chain the trains to keep them from running, punch “nazis” in the throat (they are talking about the pro-Trump people, not themselves ironically), etc.

O’Keefe said the police/FBI told him that arrests were planned for a number of the thugs on these videos and their affiliates today.

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Right. Number crunching.

30 billion dollars per walking beam assembly is being referred outside our tax base despite our best ongoing efforts. Five of these units equals 150 billion dollars gross in fabrication work referred outside our tax base. The average fabrication business profit of 35% of the total cost would generate 52.5 billion taxable business profit dollars – at 34% tax rate. So 17.85 billion U.S. tax dollars were lost to our community tax base in spite of our best efforts.

Labor costs in fabrication run at about 22% of the cost. That’s about 32 billion dollars in payroll we did not get in our community – income to people working jobs. At a tax rate of 3.23% income tax in Indiana, that’s $1.0659 billion our tax base did NOT get to support our community. And nearly 32 billion dollars that aren’t being made by workers in our tax base are certainly not being spent in our tax base, supporting other local businesses and generating further tax revenue. The tax rate in Washington County is 2%. So that’s $660 MILLION TAX DOLLARS LOST TO OUR COUNTY in payroll taxes we didn’t get.

We might not have been able to get all the work done in our community – but I do know we have the capacity to do most or all of it. Individual shops might have higher or lower costs and profit margins. It represents my best effort though, and this is only work we have referred out on ONE JOB we have tracked over time, the walking beams.

I sure wish I could figure out how to interest our community, local business owners, or politicians in addressing Equal Opportunity law violations and sexual harassment problems brought to us by our local businesses that are preventing us from being able to refer the jobs we worked so hard to bring here to businesses in our local tax base.

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First Aid for the Usmle Step 1, 2016

January 18, 2017 Prepper Bot 0

Price: $24.97First Aid for the Usmle Step 1, 2016Author: Tao LeLabel: McGraw-Hill Education / MedicalManufacturer: McGraw-Hill Education / MedicalPublisher: McGraw-Hill Education / MedicalStudio: McGraw-Hill Education / Medical

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The American Red Cross First Aid and Safety Handbook

January 18, 2017 Prepper Bot 0

Price: $3.34The American Red Cross First Aid and Safety HandbookAuthor: American Red CrossBrand: Little Brown & CoLabel: Little, Brown and CompanyManufacturer: Little, Brown and CompanyPublisher: Little, Brown and CompanyStudio: Little, Brown and C…

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Looks like the long rectangular tube is bowed down. Nice setup to boost it up straight. We have a big collection of metal shims in many thicknesses from a little thicker than a piece of paper to big hunks of metal we use to tuck here and there and keep it all perfect. Power tools are nice but a big floor jack works great for this too. Often the floor jack or a hydraulic bottle jack are the only thing that will fit where we need the force applied.

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Solid model of the details on a laptop. We never got a full set of prints on this but the model has every detail we actually NEED, that CAD operators don’t put on prints so this is an improvement! This is a direct fail of our education system. People who design and detail things to be built have generally never actually built ANYTHING themselves. Gotta love it when they ask things like “What DOES a bearing do?” Yup. That’s American education at work for ya!

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The walking beam with covers fitted up. They did fit this round. Last time we made one of these we never got the covers at our shop to try them on. When all the components came together the covers did not fit. Can’t recall who is making the covers, never heard if they had to make them over or were able to slot stuff out to make it go.

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The walking beam is DONE! It is only one component of a very large structure but it is now a billable offense. The cover get nickel plated. And it is lifting off! Ready to move on to the next phase of work. Happy dances! These are so elegant to build. I was not involved in this one, but we have built four of them in our shop so I know exactly how much work it has been. Brian sends me pictures so I feel included. He sure knows how to make me feel special. He is my sweetheart.

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Sorry there is some back and forth on builds – yes – it is all happening at the same time, over time. I’ve fallen way behind so it’s been possible to get it in much better order than it would have been if I’d posted regularly on the build shots. Still more to come but we’re closing in on it.

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Growing food indoors • Re: Indoor gardening

January 18, 2017 Gunns 0
jean11 wrote:
Angela, I think if it was my decision to make I wouldn’t do it. I don’t think the small amount of window area is going to give you much of a return in vegetables. If you cannot garden in the backyard, I’d try the front yard or side yard, although I don’t know your living situation, house or apartment, etc. Also you might look into a community garden in your area.

She could grow all the herbs and spices she ever needs in window gardens.

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Stories and Fiction • Re: Homeless? Life After a House Fire.

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

A shot through the hole locations in the uprights, all the way through.

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Moving the rails in. When the fit-up was complete Brian hung the welding feeder from the gantry crane overhead for the heavy finish welding. Lot easier than dragging it all around and tripping over it. We need one of those at our shop!

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This is why that dead-on measurement shown in the previous post matters. The long rails rest on those crosspieces and form the base of this part of the assembly. Gotta get the foundation flat, square and true if we want the building right. Lot of time in the setup to this point. Every single step that follows will go far faster for it. The time-saving impact is as cumulative as the accuracy impact of getting it all right to start with.

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Yeah. That IS the optical builder’s level we spent most of a weekend trying to buy locally – and failed to find… Little too specialized for general stores? Just a very good scope on a tripod with leveling feet. Got to be plumb, square and true in all three planes. Little easier to do with appropriate tools. Laser beams spread fast, over distance they keep getting bigger. That kind of error just won’t cut it here.

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The big holes in the long tubes were off location by 1/8 inch or more. We cut those by hand on previous units and managed to get it dead on.

Tolerance is +/- .015 or .030 total. .125 is not even in the ballpark. “Precision automated machines” did these. They got to try again.

Set the job back a week and that sucks eggs on a bid job that is paid when it is finished. Plus 30 days billing cycle. And the week it takes for the guy the post office gives our business mail to, to bring it to us. (He is our address 56 west instead of east and they just cannot get it right.) If he is not on vacation. Just a day in small business life. We are fine with it. Educational offering, not a complaint.

We’ve already built 4 of these in the barn. This series is taken at Stamler Machine in Louisville. Brian is needed on-site for other work there right now. Before all is said and done we will doubtless be crammed full at the barn again. I love the people we are working with. Bohnert is FANTASTIC! If something needs done they make it happen. When our Dads were ill they said “Take care of family first!” and asked how they were doing.

I am comfortable that I am safe from discrimination, harassment and physical attack working with them. This is not even the case in my own shop if I let the public in, other fab shops in our community we have tried to do business with and has never been the case in most workplaces during my working life in fabrication. There have been a couple notable exceptions in other areas. Our schools and our military were not exceptions by the way.

Dreams come true. Been years of unbelievably hard work to get here but we love building to machinist’s tolerances for businesses in several countries besides our own! We feel appreciated, valued and respected. We do know not many people get this and are so thankful. It is still a lot of very hard work. We are choosing to be pleased we have created jobs even though we have not been able to bring many of them to our own community as we had hoped due to men who think I belong at home barefoot and pregnant – not working a fab shop – and will tell me so. What is five units times 30 million dollars? That is how much each of these units makes shops not in our economy due to discrimination against me. Every time you see a display of a woman as sexual object in an area business stop and think about that money it has cost our tax base please. Those displays are a great indicator of how women are truly viewed and can expect to be treated in a professional capacity.

If you get tired of hearing about what discrimination and harassment and equal opportunity law violations cost us in real dollars, I can assure you sincerely that I am absolutely exhausted living and working with it. I am thankful I can succeed personally in SPITE of it, but we apparently need a lot more public education if I am to hope to help our community generate jobs, tax monies and a future for our children. I’ve done the work to get the opportunity. I do intend to keep right on hammering on the problems that keep my community from benefiting from my efforts, talking about it, educating people, writing politicians and so on.

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Terrorism & other Man made disasters • Re: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Dis

January 18, 2017 ReadyMom 0
rickdun wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:

rickdun wrote:Our own polititions aren’t even going to show up, the Dems. are up to 23 representatives not going and the list is growing. Even they want to protest the inauguration and this is more power given to all the other protesters.

Uncle Vladamire is having his way with the U.S. now and we as americans fell for it hook, line and sinker.

so what – who cares? …. when they show up with their hat in hand wanting to work a compromise with the non-president Trump – he has a legit reason to tell them to go screw ….

if they want to stay delusional about who has the power in DC – so be it ….

out of most of the states – the DemoCraps in PA are the most vulnerable – no question what-so-ever to the PA citizens that Trump is president – same same in OH – MI – FL ….

Hellery can go be the President of CA and NY for the next 4 years ….

Photon Guy wrote:

Illini Warrior wrote:out of most of the states – the DemoCraps in PA are the most vulnerable – no question what-so-ever to the PA citizens that Trump is president

Well they can get the hell out of my state.

Maybe I was misunderstood, when I said our politicians, I did not mean PA politicians, I met our (as in we the people) of all 50 states.
I believe the PA politicians are going to D.C., it’s the far left liberal states on the west coast and NY state is where most aren’t going to attend the party in D.C..

4 from PA are NOT going:
Rep. Brendan Boyle (PA)
Rep. Robert Brady (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
Rep. Dwight Evans (PA)

Source: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/17/h … auguration

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Stories and Fiction • close tolerance fabrication

January 18, 2017 rj5156 0

Setting the I-beam the unit will be welded to during fit-up and finish welding. This holds alignment through the process. It does NOT compensate for poor welding patterns that cause warpage! Properly balanced weld sequences are the only way to keep it from turning in to a pretzel when it is cut free from the supporting structure.

Just try laying two pieces of sheet metal together and welding straight from one end to the other for a vivid demonstration of why this matters. Doesn’t matter how hard it is clamped down, as soon as it is released the strains resulting from the continuous weld will contort the metal. FYI pounding around on the warped piece (well supported on the back side) with a hammer, rivet gun or needle scaler will help a great deal if you’ve already got the warped mess and need to fix it. Putting it on a really hot wood stove does too but temperature impacts temper and that often matters in the finished piece.

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Here you can see it is only tacked together. This makes corrections on the fly possible.

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You can see the Mig wire clamped to the uprights on each end here. This allows perfect alignment where it actually matters.

Square tube is not really square. Raw materials vary in thickness and size and long sections are often twisted and / or bowed along the entire length. It takes considerable care and ongoing communication about what dimensions are critical and which way to throw the slop brought to us by manufacturing processes. Good bit of that slop is unavoidable by the way.

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Dead-on level. This is the only digital tool we use routinely. We find it is not only more accurate in extremely fine measurements, it allows us to measure places we can either see OR hold a level but not both. It is much easier to get things aligned perfectly with the right tools. Every small error at the start of a build of this complexity will multiply as each component is added and it really adds up. We use a big collection of shims in thicknesses from less than a sheet of paper to big blocks of solid metal to get stuff like this EXACTLY right.

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January 18, 2017 TALLON 0

Hello. I am TALLON, from Virginia. I am looking forward to learning a great deal from this sight. Thank You for letting me join. Hopefully I can add a bit to the knowledge gathered hear.

Statistics: Posted by TALLON — Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:57 am