If you are anything like Tom and his friends, you may have noticed the division that is created among preppers, prepper groups and political groups. This has become a huge problem and that is exactly what the big guys in DC want. Uniting together maybe the only way we can all achieve our goals. We have a lot of wonderful groups out there with causes that need to be addressed, changed or fixed in more ways than one, but to do so we need to work together. In prepper broadcasting’s podcast, “Uniting the Patriot Movement”, Tom, Pappy, Bobby, Red Hawk and a few call in guest discuss some of the main issues that are keeping us divided and some possible solutions to uniting us all together for the same cause. To fix the issues that are broken in the system. (click here if you are unable to see the video) If you enjoyed this podcast, be sure to like us on Facebook. Listen to us Live Saturday Evenings at 6PM pacific time at PrepperBroadcasting.com Bumper Music: “Bankland” By Javolenus / CC BY-NC 3.0 Transcript The following is a text transcript of the audio. Due to the verbatim speech and nuances it may be difficult to read. However, it is being provided as a courtesy to the hearing impaired as well as for those who wish to move quickly on to the pertinent parts of the podcast. Transcript is at least 80% accurate. Time stamps do not match the video. Tom: “Welcome Galtstrikers! This is Tom with Galtstrike.com and this is our weekly libertarian talk show where we discuss not just the problems of today, but also some solutions to those problems. Before we get started on today’s show I would like to mention that if you have any questions or comments during tonight’s broadcast, the call in number to get on the air is 1.347.202.0228. After you’ve connected remember to press 1 so that our producers will see that you want to be on the air. If you’re listening to this show over on blog talk or any other website that carries the player, you can also listen and join us in the chat room at prepperbroadcasting.com. Once in the chatroom, or once on the website, scroll down about mid-way and you’ll see the player. You can click play and a little bit further down you can see the chat room. Just put in your user name and then you’ll be connected to the chat.” “Just a few rules for this show. There is no foul language allowed. If you call in, no curse words, no hate speech. We welcome anyone to call in. It doesn’t matter if you’re Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Liberal, or Independent. Feel free to call in. When you come on the air feel free to also announce you’re website, or book, or business. For tonight we are going to be discussing ways to unite the patriot movement and different ways we can organize groups within the patriot movement to get together. Before we get into the show I would like to introduce our panel. We have Bobby Akart, we have Red Hawk, I believe should be calling in, I don’t think he’s called in yet. Oh yup he’s called in. And then also we have Pappy again tonight as well. So I’m gonna go through each one of these and have each of you introduce yourself. Bobby, go ahead start with you. Feel free to introduce yourself. Bobby: “Well thank you Tom again for having me on board with you guys tonight for the Galtstrike program. For those of you who are listening, either on Blog talk Radio or Prepper Broadcasting tonight, I am the host of the Prepping for Tomorrow Program on Thursday evenings. I am an author and consider myself a patriot and would be honored if you’d take a look at my website which is bobbyakart.com and that has links to my books as well as my social media contacts and I will be glad to talk to any of you guys that have questions about tonight’s topic or anything else. Just shoot me an email any time and you can find my address on the website. Thanks Tom.” Tom: “Pappy, thank you for coming on. Go ahead and introduce yourself.” Pappy: “Hey, good afternoon Tom. Thanks again for having me on. Just a prepper, been a prepper for a while on the site for the last couple of months. I am learning a lot here and really privileged and honored to be able to share with everybody my thoughts on a lot of the topics. SO, I am here for the evening.” Tom: “Alright, great to have you on. Red Hawk, are you on the air?” Red Hawk: “Hi, How are you doing tonight Tom?” Tom: “Doing great. Go ahead and introduce yourself.” Red Hawk: “Hi, I’m Red Hawk. I consider myself a patriot. Just recently (inaudible). I am really concerned about the direction our country has been taking and especially the division among the groups that consider themselves patriots.” Tom: “Yeah. Anyway, let’s go ahead and get started. As I said, tonight’s topic we are gonna discuss uniting the patriot movement. Different ways we can organize. I know Bobby has written a series of books and he actually discusses organizing patriots together. So It will be great to get his insight as well, and also Red Hawk recently wrote an article for Galtstrike about organizing the patriot movement. He talks about the divisions in the patriot movement and the need to organize them, asks the question about division and unification and obviously I believe we need to unite and this came about actually from a Facebook I read a while back from a link to the Southern Poverty Pimps, sorry, I mean the Southern Poverty Law Center. I call them the southern poverty pimps because that’s what they really do, I believe they take advantage people who live in poverty and minority groups and use them for their political gain. I’m going to go ahead and give credit where credit is due. They’ve done some good in rooting out a lot of the extremist hate groups but they’ve gone way beyond that by labeling a lot of good genuine patriot groups and labeling them as active anti-government groups and they created a whole list of these groups. That’s where I think the Southern Poverty Law Center has gone way too far. You know, and I look at some of these groups like Oathkeepers for example. I mean, Oathkeepers? Really? The Oathkeepers, that’s military and on duty and active duty Law Enforcement Officers. These are people that work for the government. And they’re labeling them anti government just for the fact that they believe that people that take an oath to protect our constitution should stick up for that oath, should keep their oath. And their gonna label them as an anti government group? That’s ridiculous. And then I got to looking at a lot of these different groups, the three percenters, and many of these other patriot groups and these aren’t even extremist in any sense of the word. and they have them on there, I think it’s wrong. But I looked at this list and I thought this is a really good list of 198 active pro-liberty groups that people could join. So I posted a link to this Southern Poverty List and said ‘Hey if you’re looking for a pro liberty group to join, the Southern Poverty Law Center has already compiled a list for everybody you know’ *laughing* We’ll go ahead and use the list so they know who to search up in their area to join as a pro-liberty group. I think it is so wrong to be equating a lot of these groups with anti-government or even on the same website that is trying to expose hate groups that are extremist groups. I think it’s wrong to include them in the same. Anyway Redhawk had seen that post and he decided to write an article about it. So I’m gonna let Redhawk talk a little bit about the article that he wrote regarding the patriot movement, and about division and unification. Redhawk do you want to talk a little about your article and what your ideas are for uniting the patriot movement? Red Hawk: “Sure. Ok, well first off as Tom said I saw the post on Galtstrike and I saw this list and the first thing that came to mind is here is Southern Poverty Law Center putting out this list of supposedly anti-government groups, as Tom pointed out, and very very few of the groups are all that extremist. So I started looking at the groups and there’s got to be some way to get these groups together because as far as I can see, even from being on Facebook and so on and social media and on the internet. None of the groups, even when you go to their websites and stuff, have any links to any other groups or you never hear of them joining forces in any protests or anything like that. So I wrote the article and some of the suggestions I made in the article were like real simple stuff. Put together a list of groups for example on Facebook that are willing to work together. (Inaudible) If the leaders started up on a grass roots level. Get local community members to meet and see what they can do to help change certain unconstitutional acts and things that the patriots are not comfortable with in their own communities. And start on a grass roots level and organize. Everybody vet very carefully any of the group’s you’re going to join. There could be back life from different groups. Especially some of the more extreme groups okay? You even join the oath keepers now and you’re under the gun of the BLM (Editor’s note: Bureau of Land Management.) and the federal government and ATF and so on and so forth. Look at the Bundy case going on and what happened out in Oregon. And out in Nevada you know where patriots stood up and said, “No, we’re not going to take this anymore.” I don’t agree with the violence aspect of it, but there’s people in this country that are to that point and it is understandable. There are a lot of things in our history that really force us to look at the division because there has been times in our country’s history where we’ve all been able to come together and some way shape of form or fashion and fight that which we thought was wrong. We fought tyranny, we fought civil wars, we fought against tyranny across the planet on every shore and continent on the planet Earth. We’re sitting here divided in our own country and not able to make any head way against the powers that are eroding our rights and eroding our constitution. The main reason is, is because they are keeping us divided and they’re doing it knowingly and willingly. So.” Tom: “So what do you thinks caused some of these divisions among Americans?” Red Hawk: “I don’t know. I remember a few years ago I got on Face Book and I got on Extreme Right Wingers page and a few other pages like that, three per-centers and oath keepers and what not. Then after a while I left and got tired of Face Book censoring the conservatives post and what not and I got tired of all the non-sense and I left for a while. A couple three years and I come back and now there seems to be like 10 times more pages and it doesn’t seem like the people are happy with the groups or the pages they are on or something or everybody just decides “I gotta start my own page” you know, get the attention or notoriety or whatever. You know, I’m not sure. It’s really kind of interesting to sit back and look at it and go wow! The numbers have exponentially increased yet there is no active working among the groups and the pages there and there is just one social forum.” Tom: “I wanted to add to that I did get an email from one of my newsletter readers that had said that its never gonna happen because there are way too many chiefs and not enough Indians and I kind of understand his point. All these groups are very libertarian minded groups and when you get a whole bunch of libertarians together you know, we all try to think of ourselves as our own leader and so we are each thinking “Hey, I’m gonna go off and start my own group and raise an army of people to start a revolution somehow.” And you know, so you get all these leaders but no followers to all these different groups or some groups get followers but then start splintering off because they want to start their own group. I think it is kind of hard to organize a lot of independent thinking people and so I think the question comes down to, if we are going to organize independent thinking people, how do we do that?” Red Hawk: “Yeah. That’s where I hit a wall. I have tried it on social media by blasting out the patriot movement article on a dozen and a half or two dozen pages and posting it. To other patriot pages even and sending it to them and emailing and messages and posting on their pages and what not. Got very little response to it. You’re right, everybody wants to do their own thing, their own way and they don’t want to listen to anybody else. Everybody wants to be a leader and I’m telling you right now, ya know, Ben Franklin said it the best I think, he said at the signing of the Declaration of Independence that we all hang separately or we all hang together or we are gonna hang if we don’t get together on this.” Tom “That’s very true.” Red Hawk: “Because they are just gonna pick us off one by one, you know. I mean you look at groups like, I hate to harp on Pissed Off Right Wingers for example, but they’ve got some 30 or 40 thousand followers. You know, you look at a dozen of the other pages, you know, if we get the 30 or 40 thousand people from one page and 30 thousand from another page and so on and so forth our numbers start growing and we have more power and we have more voice. Individually they are gonna pick us off like ducks in a shooting gallery.” Tom: “I’ve been looking and observing the democrats and what they do and of course when you have a group of very liberal, basically turning into a socialist, Democratic socialism. Most of those people are followers. They got a handful of leaders and they all get behind that leader. I think that personally that is because they have a hard time thinking for themselves so they are not very independent minded people. But the democrats are masters at organizing and I think they kind of use it to divide and conquer technique to organize their people and I think that they’ve basically singled out a group to be their common enemy for everybody they organize. And I think they have really singled out white male conservatives. That is their biggest enemy. If you are a white male conservative you’re never going to be welcome in the social justice warrior movement. It’s just not gonna happen. So they’ve managed to single out every single minority group and pander to those groups by promising them all kinds of special rights and protections and singling them out and pitting them against this other group. So that you know, if you’re a woman, every man is out to get you and hold you down and keep you from getting ahead in life. If you’re black oh it’s that white privilege that you can’t get a head in life because of all that white privilege and you need the government to save you. If you’re gay the Christians are out to stop you from living your life. If you’re Hispanic all these white males are trying to stop you from coming in the country. You know, they’re not intellectually honest and say “Hey all we wanna do is just let them come in legally”. We welcome them coming in legally into this country, but that’s not the way the democrats portray it. They are portraying that there is this evil group of white male conservatives and then they single out all these different minority groups and say we need to work together to stop those people. So when you take the whole collection of all these minority groups that they’ve organized that is the majority of the population. I think that the democrats, when they went this route, because let’s not forget the Democratic Party is the party of the KKK. They are the party of Jim Crow laws, they are the party of racism, but I think that when they realize they can no longer go that route that the way they can gain power is by this divide and conquer tactic of organizing all these minority groups and making the white conservative male the new enemy. But then you look at all the leaders of the Democratic Party, they are mostly white males so go figure. Anyway, Bobby what do you think about how we can go about uniting the patriot movement so we can stand up against this democratic socialism?” Bobby: “Yeah I think, as you and I discussed on the phone earlier today, one of the things that I’ve always believed in and talked about extensively in the Boston Brahma series is the fact that all politics are local. Our nation was designed by the founding fathers to have a very wide base where everything is governed and the folks closest to our people are the ones who make decision for political and social purposes. The same thing applies to establishing a patriot group or a prepper group and I even made a comment here in the chat room. A patriot group is a great lead into a prepper group. It’s one thing to be part of a political movement and get together with folks in your local town but it’s a whole other thing to then identify which one of those individuals you can trust to have your back in the event of a collapse of that and that leads to the prepper part. So you get to know somebody’s politics, you get to know their personality at the patriot movement level and a patriot group and then you invite them into the prepper side. And of course that’s important to me and that’s what I talk about a lot, but let me just kind of go back to where I started.” “The best way, in my opinion, to get actively involved and to make a difference is to literally start in your own neighborhood and work your way out. There are very many national organizations that those that are not inclined to be activist can join and be a part of. Like the various tea party groups. I mean there is tea party 911, there’s tea party patriots. You know there are several out there and they are great organizations, but the best way to start a group is start local, start with people you know and the first thing you need to do is basically determine what your core beliefs are. Establish a mission statement. An outline with in your small group what your beliefs are and once everyone agrees upon that then you start to branch out and invite other people to become a part of it. And here’s where typically conservatives and libertarians differ from liberals. Liberals are all about what is known as an astroturfing. They have unions of all shapes, forms and sizes that they can bus in from 500 miles away to go protest something and then they send them right back home. A great example of that was when they tried to recall Scott Walker in Wisconsin several years ago. The people out there protesting in front of that capital building weren’t from Wisconsin they were from Chicago, Milwaukee, and Detroit, bused in to create the image that they have a movement and it’s really just paid Union members. On the libertarian and conservative side we are known for grass roots organization. It’s people like the folks that are on this program tonight and that are in this chat room who are interested in getting a grass roots movement started and it just begins, quite frankly with a couple of three people just like in the 1700’s when the loyal nine became the sons of liberty and the next thing you know the British tucked tail and got out of our country. That’s the way the United states is going to get back to what our founding fathers believed in. You got to start local Tom.” Tom: “Yeah I agree and I also think one of the things we want to do is reach out to minority groups. Not in the same way that the left has done by pandering to them and promising all kind of special protection and you know they’ll find another group to get them to join. But I really do think we need to reach out to minority groups like Blacks, Hispanics, women, Asians, just any minority group that the left has targeted to join their movement. We need to try to bring back into the pro liberty movement because liberty and freedom is for everybody. It is for all of us. We all have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and so before we get into talking about ways to reach out to other minority groups to bring them into the patriot movement I’d like to bring Kevin on. Kevin is a caller that wanted to give a comment real quick. Kevin, you’re on the air.” Kevin: “Yeah, do you know who the Ghost of Capitalist is?” Tom: “The who?” Kevin: “The Ghost of Capitalist.” Tom: “The Ghost of Capitalist?” Kevin: “Yeah, but okay I guess you don’t. I have a comment to say what you just said on there. You’re saying we have to reach out to minority groups. I don’t think that is possible, I mean you look at all the people funding like Black Lives Matter like George Soros and everything just causes racial divide. What the bureaucrats want to do is cause racial divide and conquer. That’s what they want to do. Reaching out to minority groups isn’t going to do anything in 2016. We’re practically screwed. The only way to defeat this is to hope George Soros dies of a legitimate heart attack and not like an FBI gun or something like that. People like that, we can’t have bureaucrats running this country, I mean our country is screwed. Social media just takes; I mean come on, if people really think Donald Trump is a racist just because he said he wants to send illegal immigrants back. You know, it’s the truth. They come over here and they cause crime. I mean don’t get me wrong, some of them are good and some of them want a better family because the Mexican economy is shit, but I mean you know, what is reaching out to minority groups necessarily going to do? Like now, I don’t really get what you’re saying and honestly.” Red Hawk: “I’d like to address that comment when you get a chance.” Tom: “Yeah go ahead Red Hawk.” Red Hawk: “Yeah okay. On the minority groups, all you have to do is go onto Facebook brother and follow Trump pages for example. There are postings on there every day of Latinos and black people that are conservatives okay. I can’t remember the gentlemen’s name now but he was a congressman from Florida here for a short time. Anyways, he’s a black guy..” Speaker:”Allen West” Red Hawk: “Right, Allen West. Thank you. A Patriot. Black as the Ace of Spades ok and he is against the black lives matters movement. He’s against the anti-patriots. He’s against the division and so forth. You got a lot of Latinos standing up. There was a video I watched just recently of a Latino standing up at a protest at a trump rally telling the Mexicans that were flying the Mexican flag to go back to Mexico if they liked it so well. So we do have patriotic minorities in this country. We just have to seek them out. Tom: “Well Red Hawk, I’d like to add to that my wife is a legal immigrant. Legal immigrant from the Philippines. She wasn’t even the slightest bit interested in politics until she got over here and started listening to some of the talk shows I listened to and let her listen to some of my political beliefs and now she understands it and so she follows along with that. Like Red Hawk said, there is a lot of people that are minorities like blacks and Hispanics that are pro liberty. There is even Gays that are pro liberty and but the problem is they don’t have a voice. Nobody gives them a big enough voice to be heard and whenever they do get their voice out they’re shot down by the left. So I think this was all part of the unification. We all need to unite those people and bring them in too, you know, give them a voice with in the liberty movement so that we can say “Hey, we’re not a bunch of racist and bigots. We accept everybody in the liberty movement.” This is, Liberty and freedom is a gift for all of us. Anyway, thank you for the call Kevin. I do have another caller on. Stella on the air but we are going to wait and hear from our sponsors first and then I’ll go on to Stella.” Advertisements from DoomandBloom.net Advertisements from GoSunStove.com Advertisements from WonderMill.com Tom: “Welcome back everyone. We were talking about bringing minorities, patriot minorities into the patriot movement and giving them the voice that they don’t have because I do believe that there are a lot of minorities that want to share in the same constitutional freedoms that we all believe in. Pappy I’ll get your opinion. What do you think about how we can unite patriots and how we can get more minorities interested in the patriot movement? “ Pappy: “Well, you know it is a great topic and I don’t even know if there is an answer for it right now because it is so divided on so many things. My kind of twist on it to, I kind of feel, and I fall into this group of others that have a hard time of really getting together and being more voiceterous about the situation and that is corporate, middle American management. We deal with a lot of diversity and while I really see some different opinions on so many things it is a shame that even though I want to be more involved I am not allowed for fear of losing my job or other ramifications. Many of the people I talk to and it is strange how many people I find that are interested and I can talk to over the internet or over the phone one on one but we just can’t get together. That is another bridge I think we come across. How do we fix that situation?” Tom: “I think that is a good topic for discussion. A lot of people can’t talk about getting prepared and uniting the patriot movement at work and I just think we need to hit every angle and try to solve these problems one at a time. As we were talking before, probably the biggest one is bridging that gap with minorities. I think we really need to show the world, the people that are sitting on the fence that we are not a bunch of racist and bigots. I think we need to distance ourselves from the extreme groups and show that we are not a part of that at all. Anyway, I want to get Stella, I want to bring Stella on the air. She has a comment. Stella, thank you for coming on.” Stella: “Thank You for letting me make a quick comment. What I have found in trying to start a small group and being involved in folks that are trying to have these patriot groups is the time limitations of being able to get there for the jobs. running the kids around and there is also the big fear that if you stand up and say what you feel and what you think, which a lot of people agree with and everybody will stand around and agree in these small conversations, but if you stand up, you lose your job, you can’t pay the taxes, you can’t put food on the table and clothe your children and family. And that is a huge huge fear and it is one that I see prevailing all across the board. It doesn’t matter what minority you are or what race you are or anything else. Everybody is afraid to stand up and it is gonna take someone that has enough guts and enough whatever to stand up and say we have had enough. Let us all join together drop all the side stuff and the issues. Come up with, like you’re trying to do, come up with a main plan of a philosophy to follow that will unite everybody and it’s the constitution and the constitution has been trampled on. The constitution and the bill of rights. If there is a website started that starts out with “We believe in the Constitution as it was written by our forefathers. Here is the bill of rights and sign on and lets everybody kind of work it that way. Because that can be nationwide and you know the small groups are hard to get together honestly. I’ve been part of three or four of them. We’ve even made odd little plans and it doesn’t work.” Tom: “So you started a group? What is the name of your group and where’d you start at?” Stella: “Well I live Old Fort, North Carolina and we really didn’t put a name on the group, it was just preppers around the area. Friends that I have. We, for lack of time more than anything else, because of everybody’s schedule, we can’t get together enough to accomplish anything. There is another friend that I have that lives two counties over that tried to start a group and we met quite a few times and we all had a sharing philosophy but time, and jobs and things always got in the way and things just fell apart. That leaves (inaudible)” Tom: “I think time definitely plays a big role and I’ve witnessed this in the prepping movement and the patriot movement, it seems that most of the people in these movements are working class people. You know we’ve got our 40 hour a week job. In my case I work 70 hours a week and it is very difficult to pull away from that to go to the different protest and meetings and organize the meetings and the grass roots effort that is involved. We don’t have the resources of funding like George Soros funding. You know the moveon.org and the leftist groups that have huge amounts of funding and it seems like a lot of the people out protesting are people that don’t have jobs anyway. So they will go out there and protest their cause and we don’t have a way to fight back because we got our jobs to go to. So it turns out being whenever the left has a big big, there are only a handful of patriots on the other side of the street. I think that needs to change. We need to figure out how to work around that as well. But anyways, Stella you’re a woman, the liberals seem to think every white male in the world is out to hold you down. Are you witnessing that? Are you witnessing men stopping you from getting a better paying job?” Stella: “Well, I am not one of those kinds of women. I am extremely independent and I work for myself. I have farms on the property we bought 12 years ago. I’ve been farming with my husband for 12 years and he actually works more than full time to help out and we started farming because we wanted to eat better and then all of a sudden we are put into the prepper movement. Tagged with that. It’s not so much that we are preppers you know, you want to eat well you learn how to can. You learn how to put up food. You learn how to grow things. It is a big long process, it’s not like let’s grow some food then we’ll go can it up tomorrow. It doesn’t work that way.” Tom: “So you guys are very self-reliant and independent. Anyways Stella, I just want to thank you for your calling and your input. I want to give Bobby a chance to chime in some more about what we can do to solve some of these issues as far as organizing minorities and dealing with the time factor and work and situations like that. How can the patriot movement get over those hurdles and work together.” Bobby: “That was a great call Stella. Thank you for calling in and I love you’re feedback and input and also your passion for the subject and the thing is, and I even mentioned this in the chat right now, liberals are ingrained in activism. It sprouted out of the sixties’ and once they started on that track they never looked back. Typically conservatives and libertarians are all about taking care of their family and being self-reliant which a full time job is as we all know. We are not looking to the government to pay our bills and do things. So a lot of us don’t have time when we are trying to earn a living and take care of our families to go out and drive half way across the country to protest the Donald Trump campaign rally. So we have to look up other options and one of the comments I just made in the chat room is if you don’t have the time to devote to forming a group then maybe doing that is not in your best interest. Maybe the best thing you can do is find a group that is already in existence, get your feet wet, get to know people. It is similar to going to a new church. If you’re new to a community and you’re not sure if this particular Methodist church is for you then you go try it out and then if you don’t like it you go to another one. Well, there are tea party groups all over the country. In every community just about which gives you options to go listen to what they have to say and see if you mesh with the people. See if their core beliefs match yours and if they do than rather than trying to undertake the formation of a group of your own, start there and only apply the amount of time that you can comfortably do without upsetting your business or personal life. I think that is a good suggestion to a lot of people who are new to activism. If they haven’t been political active in the past, start with a group and get to know them and learn from that and then decide if you want to take the next step.” Tom: “Yeah I think another thing people need to watch out for is being burned out of getting, I don’t know if there is a term for it. Activist burn out, but being the fact that most of the working class doesn’t have the time to go to these protest and rallies and such all the time, I think we need to be careful of not hitting it real real hard. Burning up the time we do have and not seeing the results right away so then we get burned out and give up. I think we need to, just like we have to budget our bills we also have to budget our time and figure out each week Okay I’ve got an hour or maybe only 2 hours a week to devote towards political activism and being active in a patriot movements. Well, do those 2 hours. Don’t do like ten and then ten the next week and then get burnt out and then give up. I think you need to budget that and just like any other thing you invest in, invest that little bit every single week and don’t stop. Don’t give up and don’t quit. But put in the amount of time that you can comfortable do every week and do that consistently for years. As a life time thing so plan this political activism to be part of your lifestyle but do it in such a way that you’re not taking away too much time from other things and not getting burnt out. What are your thoughts on that Bobby and then I’ll get Pappi’s thoughts.” Bobby: “Well, no yeah I absolutely agree and here is the other thing. Conservatives and libertarians know this and everyone that is listening knows this. It will become very frustrating for you simply because the media is against us. It is such a, it’s not even a fair fight. I mean sometimes I question whether Fox News is on our side anymore because they seem like they go over board to be fair and balanced to the point you wonder who they are for now. It can be frustrating. Politics is a frustrating business and activism is a frustrating business but just keep your nose to the grind and just know that you are making a difference. We all have our own ways of helping. You don’t have to be out there carrying a sign post walking the side walk. It could simply be that you joined a phone bank when it is time for your local candidates to run and you go down to help make calls to local neighbors and say vote for candidate X or Y. In my case I right political thrillers. You know the Brahma series is designed to not only get people informed and educated but to entertain them as well and for those of you like Tom that have read the series, you know there are a lot of subtle politics in there. You do what you know best and everybody can play a small part but do something. Sitting on the sidelines means they’re winning and it is time for us to start winning.” Tom: “You know I want to add another idea that just crossed my mind just now talking about this. Let’s say you’ve got a 40, 50, 60, 70 hours a week job. You can’t pull away to go to one of those rallies and then let’s say the boss says “I need you to work another 3 more hours today. Sorry you can’t make it to that protest, I need you to work”. What I think we need to do as part of organizing and doing these protest and rallies and such is have almost like a sponsorship program through the local meet up groups. So you start up a local meet up group and your local activist group or you join one that already exist, okay, and then you find the people in that group that do have the time to go but maybe they don’t have the money to go. Maybe they don’t have the gas money or whatever they need. Or maybe they don’t have a babysitter, maybe their situation is they’re a stay at home mom or dad or single parent or whatever and they can’t leave their kid alone to go to the rally. I think the person that is working those extra hours who would like to go should sponsor the person who does have the time but not the financial means to go. I think we need to work in these groups and movements to connect those people together so the one that has the time can go on behalf of the ones that gotta work.” Red Hawk: “I’d like to interject something here. You guys keep talking about going to the local groups and everything like that which was one thing that I touched on. But again I am gonna go back to it. One of the most powerful tools we have available to us and all of us use it every day is our computers. It is one of the most powerful tools ever devised by man. We are not utilizing our social media networking to its fullest potential. Everything that everybody else has touched on in this discussion can be done also on social media a lot more effectively and time management wise. Ask yourself do you spend on social media? You may not have 2 hours a week to spend at a meeting, a physical presence, but you spend what 6-8 hours a week online? On Facebook or more. We need to get these chats going on on Facebook and get these groups together on Facebook and join groups on Facebook if we can’t get there in a physical sense. I live in a county that is 56% African American and 26,000 registered democrats and 5,000 registered republicans. Getting anything on a conservative movement on a local level here is virtually impossible. We called for a, back in 2009, for a tea party patriot protest on Facebook. Everybody signed up for it and everything. We had 5 to 8 thousand people show up in Orlando and 2 of us showed up in Tallahassee. Myself and a Vietnam nurse with a walker. I mean that was rather disheartening. I mean we are standing in front of the capitol building and the security standing there going “What’s going on? We didn’t hear about any protest. You’re it? Cool”. Tom: “I think certainly in areas where you’re totally outnumbered and have no way to catch up, even if you are the only person to protest maybe the time might be better spent in Social Media and helping out other groups that way. But I think certainly if you’re in a swing state area where the conservatives are 50/50 split with liberals we definitely really have to have the physical presence at these protest and these rallies. I think we really need to drive that forward. The left is definitely beating us in that respect. I wanna get Pappy’s opinion again. Pappy, what do you think about some of these ways to organize and how we can deal with the time situation?” Pappy: “Yeah absolutely. I put in a lot of hours a week and we all like our personal time as well but I think it is something we HAVE to put in our calendar and find a way as a group. Social media I think is probably, again I have to totally agree, that is probably the way I think I could spend my time most valuable. Maximize it is what I am trying to say there. I’m down here in South Louisiana and we are really a self-sufficient people all together but to try and get people together here too, I’m not sure what the right answer is. It seems like everybody has the same mind frame. I would love to know the answer. What is the spark? I guess that is what it is gonna have to be, a spark. Maybe something in the economic, maybe it’s the election coming up? Maybe that’ll be the spark we need.’ Tom: “You know if Hillary gets elected I can’t think of a bigger spark than that but ya know what I am worried about is I think if she gets elected it is gonna be a little bit too late. She could potentially, especially if she is there for 8 years, she could potentially put 5 Supreme Court justices on that court. Potentially and that I think will be deva sting, especially for our second amendment rights. Bobby, what do you think more about organizing and dealing with the time issue. What are your thoughts on the idea I threw out there on maybe, if you work a lot of hours maybe sponsoring someone who does have the time but not the means?” Bobby: “Well, it’s all a matter of getting like-minded individuals or prepper groups are formed the same way and patriot groups or movements formed the same way. Some people have more time than others and this is why I loved Stella’s phone call because in a lot of the conservative households a lot of the time you have stay at home moms and once they take care of the things they normally do as part of their daily activities they may have more time to do more emails or make more phone calls. It’s really just a matter of getting someone who is well organized to take all of these diverse and skilled back grounds and put them together and say, “What are you good at? What are you good at?” and then sending them out like good foot soldiers and the key is to not over promise and under deliver and be honest about what your capabilities are. That is the first part of any organization is putting together people who are willing to put forth the efforts but don’t promise more than they can do.” Tom: “Yeah I think we do need to focus a lot more on having people that are good in specific areas, focus on that rather than one person trying to do all things. You know, one person trying to organize and do the flyers and promotion and the phone calls and all of those things to organize. I think those duties need to be divided up by people that have the time. Someone mentioned in the chat room about dividing time between social media and the actual rallies as a 50/50 split. Doing both social media and the rallies. I think that is a good idea. They also said starting something as simple as a block party for those that agree with the conservative movement. I think that is a really good idea. I think we just need to do more things and do more networking with people using social media as Red Hawk said to its fullest potential. To bring people together. I think we really do need to bring minorities together that really haven’t had that voice and bring them in as well and help amplify their voice in the movement and then I think we really need to focus on not having to many chiefs. Everybody wants to start up their own group, that’s great but if you have no experience starting groups and organizing I really do think you need to start out participating in somebody else’s group and helping that group grow to its fullest potential. But before you think about starting your own group, you know, because I know a lot of people have a lot of different you know, ideas and agendas if you wanna call it. Some people want to focus on gun rights, some people want to focus on tax issues, and other people want to focus on other rights. I think what we need to do is somehow; whatever group or agenda you are trying to promote, be a part of that group but somehow get these various patriot groups to come together for a common goal. Like you talked about Bobby, these local politicians elected that support our values and start at the local level. I think that is a really big way we can go about it. We are running out of time, we’ve got about 5 minutes left so I wanna go through everybody that we have on the phone and get your opinions real quick. Pappi, do you wanna add some more in?” Pappy: “Yeah I guess I just wanna say, don’t think something you’re doing, no matter how small you may think it is won’t make a difference. You never know who you could spark that may have more time and can maybe carry on the torch because that’s what we gotta do. We can’t stop where we are. We gotta keep on keeping on, every day.” Tom: “Oh yeah, by the way that was Red Hawks wife that was in the chat room giving those ideas that I mentioned a minute ago. Red Hawk if you want to add more in what do you and your wife think we could do more of to unite the patriot movement?” Red Hawk: “As you pointed out we really have to work on dividing our time up equally between social media and actual physical presence and meeting and so forth. Seeking out neighbors and like what was mentioned before, seeking out neighbors and doing the local grass works, movement work too. Unless we get it going on a local level it’s just not going to happen. Anytime the patriot movement has made any major gains anywhere it’s started out as a grass roots. (Inaudible) I like to grow fruit trees and without a healthy root system and tree isn’t going to bear fruit. So we have to have a healthy root system for the movement and in order for it to branch out and bear fruit eventually.” Tom: “Well and I think consistence and persistence, we really need to focus on that. I see a lot of these big movements start up and then the fizzle out over time and then you never hear about them again and I think whenever a new person joins the patriot movement with the understanding that it is a lifelong investment. You know when I was talking about the burn out.” Red Hawk: “You got so many different issues. I mean you’ve got groups of folks on the second amendment, I mean you go folks on constitutional issues, you got different groups that focus on the religious liberty issues and you know, transgender bathroom thing and so on and so forth. We’ve got to figure out some way to draw the common lines between all these different groups and all these different issues. I remember in 2000 I was a minister. A mobile minister and we were doing a rainbow gathering in Montana and we had an emergency situation and I was led to unify 14 different Christian groups that were all camping out at a national forest at a rainbow gathering. Not an easy proposition because Christians are some of the most diversionary, doctrinally bunch of people you can possibly imagine. All I had to do was point out we had one common denominator. That common denominator was Jesus. What we need to do is find that common denominator among the patriot movement and go, “Look! We all have this in common. Let’s work on this first (inaudible)” Tom: “Well, I think everyone in the patriot movement does have one common denominator and I think that is our bill of rights. Whether you’re Christian or not a Christian I think we can all agree that our bill of rights is for everybody.” Red Hawk: “Start off on the bill of rights and a constitutional basis.” Tom: “Anyways I got less than a minute left so I have to go ahead and close out. I wanna thank Stella. Thank you for calling in and giving your opinions and I also appreciate all of you that have called in and tuned in to listen to our show. Next week we are going to continue on the show we did last week. It is going to be a part two. We are going to talk more about the non-aggression principle in and how to respect each other’s boundaries. Thank you guys for being on the air. Remember to tune into prepperbroadcasting.com. Every day there is a show.” Closing Music
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